btdt Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Arteritis this is one form...sorry forgot thelink it is below... my eye goes in and out... I am leaning this way... as it sounds like what I have ... but docs just now are thinking temporal arteritis as that is where the vein and pain have stuck just now. It started with waking and feeling like I have been hit by a bat tho I did not know of any of this at the time and on looking at this http://www.patient.co.uk/health/giant-cell-arteritis-temporal-arteritis-leaflet I think it has had gradual onset and leans more this way. The wake up call came Sat when I woke feeling like I had been hit in the head with a bat. Neck back of head temple pain settles mostly in the temple. I used cold packs and tylenol #3 to deal with the head ache. So Monday I seen my doc who did a ESR test to check on inflammation had an eye test and will eventually see an eye specialist... don't hold your breath. My bp was 170 that day...I am also still I think fighting off a sinus lung infection for the past month that had the antibiotics puffers and nasal spray. I am back on antibiotics and still doing a low dose of the sprays. Staying away from the steroid that opens the lungs as it makes me shake like crazy or at least the shaking has not happened since I stopped using it as directed... may not be that at all... but seems to be at this time. Mondays visit to the doc got me this antibiotics good old penicillin blood work and eye test and a new drug for blood pressure control... a diuretic which the drug store would not fill as I have problems with sulfa drugs. As far as I know the ESR is not back yet and there has been no treatment of steroids for the arteritis if that is indeed what I have. Last night the drug store replaced the bp med with one called Atenolol...which I looked up... and found this While there was no difference among the drugs in relation to heart problems, there was a three percent greater risk of all-cause mortality with beta blockers. Most startling was that risk of stroke was 16 percent higher in patients taking beta blockers. These drugs reduce risk of stroke by just 19 percent, half of what was expected based on previous studies. One specific beta blocker, atenolol (Tenormin), which came under fire when a Lancet study suggested it was less effective than other drugs in its class, posed a whopping 26 percent increased risk of stroke as compared to other drugs. I had a reaction to lidocaine or so I thought the effects lasted a few months... after being checked for an allergy to it they concluded I had a Transient Ischemic Attack that was about 2 years ago... I had one before or at the time heard two things TIA and small small stroke from Birth control pills when I was 18 ... I am not liking my chances with this drug... given the history. I had a really bad headached a few months ago my bp was high and we were just watching it ... after the headache... but now she has decided to treat. I have attempted bp meds one other time in the last five years with poor results as I react to everything... and I did not continue with it. That headache a few months ago seem to start with a abdominal pressure and pain and lasted days... bp went up and stayed up after that... but was coming down again.. gradually I was checking it rather regularly. While my doctor knows about my sisters death she does not know my brother in law was murdered that for sure has increased the stress level. I have vision problems lately ...sometimes feel my eye are blurry when watching tv or when driving. I am to start this medication this morning and I sit here and can't get my head around it... think it would be the same with a steroids and doubt they would understand the low does I would want to start with it this is indeed my problem... So I am up against a wall... was thinking of trying to see her again today which maybe possible.. to change this drug... but too what...???? are there any other people in withdrawal that deal with bp and have any of these symptoms... any suggestions as to what may be an affective bp drug...that will not mess me up more given my history of bc reaction and lidocaine reaction... in my brain... both messed my vision... At this point I am sitting here with this drug scared as hell ... to scared to take it and scared not to take it... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Arteritis this is one form...sorry forgot thelink it is below... my eye goes in and out... I am leaning this way... as it sounds like what I have ... but docs just now are thinking temporal arteritis as that is where the vein and pain have stuck just now. It started with waking and feeling like I have been hit by a bat tho I did not know of any of this at the time and on looking at this http://www.patient.co.uk/health/giant-cell-arteritis-temporal-arteritis-leaflet I think it has had gradual onset and leans more this way. The wake up call came Sat when I woke feeling like I had been hit in the head with a bat. Neck back of head temple pain settles mostly in the temple. I used cold packs and tylenol #3 to deal with the head ache. So Monday I seen my doc who did a ESR test to check on inflammation had an eye test and will eventually see an eye specialist... don't hold your breath. My bp was 170 that day...I am also still I think fighting off a sinus lung infection for the past month that had the antibiotics puffers and nasal spray. I am back on antibiotics and still doing a low dose of the sprays. Staying away from the steroid that opens the lungs as it makes me shake like crazy or at least the shaking has not happened since I stopped using it as directed... may not be that at all... but seems to be at this time. Mondays visit to the doc got me this antibiotics good old penicillin blood work and eye test and a new drug for blood pressure control... a diuretic which the drug store would not fill as I have problems with sulfa drugs. As far as I know the ESR is not back yet and there has been no treatment of steroids for the arteritis if that is indeed what I have. Last night the drug store replaced the bp med with one called Atenolol...which I looked up... and found this While there was no difference among the drugs in relation to heart problems, there was a three percent greater risk of all-cause mortality with beta blockers. Most startling was that risk of stroke was 16 percent higher in patients taking beta blockers. These drugs reduce risk of stroke by just 19 percent, half of what was expected based on previous studies. One specific beta blocker, atenolol (Tenormin), which came under fire when a Lancet study suggested it was less effective than other drugs in its class, posed a whopping 26 percent increased risk of stroke as compared to other drugs. I had a reaction to lidocaine or so I thought the effects lasted a few months... after being checked for an allergy to it they concluded I had a Transient Ischemic Attack that was about 2 years ago... I had one before or at the time heard two things TIA and small small stroke from Birth control pills when I was 18 ... I am not liking my chances with this drug... given the history. I had a really bad headached a few months ago my bp was high and we were just watching it ... after the headache... but now she has decided to treat. I have attempted bp meds one other time in the last five years with poor results as I react to everything... and I did not continue with it. That headache a few months ago seem to start with a abdominal pressure and pain and lasted days... bp went up and stayed up after that... but was coming down again.. gradually I was checking it rather regularly. While my doctor knows about my sisters death she does not know my brother in law was murdered that for sure has increased the stress level. I have vision problems lately ...sometimes feel my eye are blurry when watching tv or when driving. I am to start this medication this morning and I sit here and can't get my head around it... think it would be the same with a steroids and doubt they would understand the low does I would want to start with it this is indeed my problem... So I am up against a wall... was thinking of trying to see her again today which maybe possible.. to change this drug... but too what...???? are there any other people in withdrawal that deal with bp and have any of these symptoms... any suggestions as to what may be an affective bp drug...that will not mess me up more given my history of bc reaction and lidocaine reaction... in my brain... both messed my vision... At this point I am sitting here with this drug scared as hell ... to scared to take it and scared not to take it... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have thought some relaxation and or magnesium would lower the bp for a bit and given what I am up against with stress lately may be the ticket for now I am just not sure as if I do have to take steroid it would increase bp... too. I also have a new MRI showing multi level cervical spondylosis ... this could be the cause of this head problem... So a lot relies I guess on this ESR test. So I have decided not to take the bp med just yet I think and wait it out with some relaxation... I could likely get more info on bp meds if I felt up to it but I just don't feel up to it. Doctors are use to me second guessing them and they don't like it but it is what I have to do to stay alive I feel... and so I do it... best I can. This is I think part of the withdrawal hang over... being vigilant to possible drug reactions due to hypersensitivity. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I am so very sorry, you have had so many emotional and physical events! Really, really hard. I am just ending a beta-blocker taper, so I have been thinking about this a lot. The last I knew, BB's are helpful after a heart attack, but I don't think they are great for hypertension. My first choice would be an ace-inhibitor or the relatively new type that is similar, doesn't elevate bradykinin in the same way. Second would be diuretics or calcium channel blockers, although ccb's have some psych effects. I wouldn't consider a BP reading while a patient is in acute pain to be a relevant reading. They may be thinking more of the arteritis than the hypertension, in which case I have no knowledge. I've been on an ACE inhibitor for a little over two months. Keep us posted, and good luck. 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted April 30, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 30, 2014 hi btdt, I've found your thread through search but the Arteritis wasn't mentioned here, so it must be the symptoms... will continue search Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted April 30, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted April 30, 2014 Found the topic. As you rightly assumed, I don't know anything about BP, beta-blockers and arteritis so I'm very glad Meimei replied. However, I'll keep on looking for people with experiences such as yours. If I remember it correctly, Wulfgar had/has high BP issues. So basically you are scared of taking the med the doctor prescribed for fear it might trigger adverse reactions but also scared of not taking anything for fear your symptoms might deteriorate further? I'd say it would be best to talk again about your concerns with the doctor who prescribed it, if that's an option or a pharmacist. I also believe some more people here will share their experiences that might help. What you can try to do for yourself now is to try not to be so afraid of the fear. It's hard but you can do it. you'll be fine. keep us posted. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well I took it I wasn't going to but I did. I went to sleep for the day... called the drug store he said that is not so good try half the dose tomorrow. I felt drunk when I woke up and some of the pains I have in my body was different... still there but different like more diffused. I am thinking I will not sleep much tonight after a day long nap. It could be a simple as the dose was too high but maybe not so I called my doc who usually is difficult to get in to see and I am going in tomorrow for a consult. I still feel stupid kind of far away. My vision is off but not blurry... lately I have been thinking I need new glasses can't quite put my finger on it. When I had the eye test on Monday the left eye could see three dots in the middle of a black circle where the right eye could see only one... there was a trailing white circle same size as the black circle the yellow dots were in... it would float away every now and then... just drift off. When I asked the receptionist said the ESR test for the arteritis was ok... I did not ask about the others. It is really inconclusive as 4 our or 5 cases do not have high ESR if it were high it would be more likely the only positive I guess is a biopsy of the actual site of the inflammation. The headache is not there now it is still sore in that area but it was like that the last couple of days anyway just having a headache sometimes... will see how it goes tonight see what she has to say tomorrow. It could be the dose was just too high for me... I took 25 mg the smaller half of a 50mg tablet so maybe a bit less than 25. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am so very sorry, you have had so many emotional and physical events! Really, really hard. I am just ending a beta-blocker taper, so I have been thinking about this a lot. The last I knew, BB's are helpful after a heart attack, but I don't think they are great for hypertension. My first choice would be an ace-inhibitor or the relatively new type that is similar, doesn't elevate bradykinin in the same way. Second would be diuretics or calcium channel blockers, although ccb's have some psych effects. I wouldn't consider a BP reading while a patient is in acute pain to be a relevant reading. They may be thinking more of the arteritis than the hypertension, in which case I have no knowledge. I've been on an ACE inhibitor for a little over two months. Keep us posted, and good luck. Thanks for the information there is a lot more to this than I ever expected. I just looked up bradykinin... and only because this is an Ad withdrawal site and only because I have been doing this wd thing so long... I noticed this "Initial secretion of bradykinin post-natally causes constriction and eventual atrophy of the ductus arteriosus, forming the ligamentum arteriosum between the pulmonary trunk and aortic arch." It was years ago a google alert I had set up sent me an article from Scotland about babies with hear defects in this area due to these sorts of drugs... there was a problem with the duct not closing and heart defects as I recall and don't quote me tho I am generally quite good with this sore of important stuff I could be wrong today. No idea if it does anything to us grown ups. Maybe you could tell me if it does... I am assuming I don't want it... but if it is part of controling pain maybe I do want it ... just now I just want to be thinking clear and not far away... second thought is it is just not right to have to decide things when you don't feel normal. I guess that is how it goes tho we do the best we can at times like these. diuretic that was her first plan but the drug store said I could not have it as I am allergic to sulfa drugs... so this was the next idea I guess as it is what I got Tues night at the drug store. I have read of psych affects with this drug along with sleeplessness ??? I find that odd given my experience. I did feel like I had taken a very strong sleeping pill like they give you before a procedure at the hosp when they don't want you to fight back.. say a colonoscopy or something you really don't want but they think you need. I don't want any psych issues that is for sure. " I wouldn't consider a BP reading while a patient is in acute pain to be a relevant reading." normally I would agree with this statement we have been watching my bp for a few months I had a very bad headache worse than the one I have not a few months back it seemed to start with pressure and pain in abdomen. ... I used a cold pack on a painful place around where I broke the rib to get it to ease or I would have been in emerg... as it was the headache lasted three days and was hell..even with pain pills. I have been watching it and things seemed to be improving some it was low 150 or higher 140 .. it still is some times it goes up and down a lot for some unknown reason.. if I climb the stairs it goes to 170 This morning after the half pill it was at 117/60 then I fell asleep... was going to watch the pressure for the day but I crashed when I woke it was 140 has seemed to gone back to the 140 150 level now so the bp effect has seemingly wore off but the stupid effect has not. Maybe I am just not use to being this mellow... like I have drank a bottle of wine.. or some wine but not in a happy way just a far away way.. my sister said I sounded drunk on the phone... there has been a ton of stress too.. my doc does not know my brother in law was murdered... I just did not fit it into the conversation.. don't know my head is better.. but it was getting better on its own anyway... still sore just as not as sore as it was... I will stay away from calcium channel blockers if she offers them... thanks for the advice... will let you know what happens... Because of the way that last head ache started with a pain in the gut area I was thinking it was vascularly connected to the headache... and now a bit worried about aorta bleed.. I had a gastro bleed when I was on Ads that scared the crap out of me... I was lucky... I don't want to push my luck and will be talking to the doc about it tomorrow I already had a talk with anohter doc about it and he did a cat scan so I thought it was ok... but I will mention it again as I did not tell this doc tho she knows of the headache... I think I am rambling so I will go now and if it is mostly gobble dee goop in this post just ignore it... peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Arteritis if it does turn out to be what I have is treated with steroids and I am not too interested in taking them but I guess that may not be a choice given the alternative. It can be related to another sort of pain disorder which is less serious causing pain in some parts of the body which at this time I can't recall. called pms or pns or something. Will cross that bridge when I get to it if I have to. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 hi btdt, I've found your thread through search but the Arteritis wasn't mentioned here, so it must be the symptoms... will continue search Bubbles I could not find it when I was trying to find it to put my post here today If you can could you please move the Arteritis post to this spot... thanks if you can or if you can't it would be easier to have it all in one place WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Reading all this, b, I am sure of only one thing....this needs to be handled by a physician. I would really recommend you tell her of this most recent stress as well, and all your concerns. As far as the babies, that is a very well known and documented effect of ACE inhibitors...they absolutely can't be taken during most of pregnancy. I so wish you well! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted May 1, 2014 Member Share Posted May 1, 2014 To find your thread, in your browser's search bar type: survivingantidepressants.org [space][your username] and go search. You can then bookmark it for easy finding. Works reliably well since all individual topics in the intro forum have each person's username as a part of it. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Think I did book mark it once but can't recall how to use the book mark.. rough day. Doc asked if I took the med today too my bp (I took my own machine with me) said I did not have the other thing she was looking into... and that was about it... feel spaced our things are in rather slow motion and I have intermittent ....drop off to sleep feelings... and bad psychological state. Bad enough I don't want to talk about it as I am in a tricky place... so I of course look it up along with a few other things. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | October 01, 1983 Acute psychotic behavior associated with atenolol http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=161105 from 1983 Guess I will never learn. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I tried to walk off this side effect today walked all the way home from the doctor not sure how far that is but further than I have walked in years... and then slept. Still foggy headed and keeping it simple as I feel the time is right to lay low and let this pass so if you wondering what I am doing that is it. Laying low waiting it out. One of my famous withdrawal mantras " This too shall pass" History has taught me this is true. Peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 From drugs.com Atenolol " POTENTIAL ADVERSE EFFECTSIn addition, a variety of adverse effects have been reported with other beta-adrenergic blocking agents, and may be considered potential adverse effects of atenolol. Hematologic: Agranulocytosis. Allergic: Fever, combined with aching and sore throat, laryngospasm, and respiratory distress. Central Nervous System: Reversible mental depression progressing to catatonia; an acute reversible syndrome characterized by disorientation of time and place; short-term memory loss; emotional lability with slightly clouded sensorium; and, decreased performance on neuropsychometrics. Gastrointestinal: Mesenteric arterial thrombosis, ischemic colitis. " an acute reversible syndrome" Is what I choose to focus on just now... wondering how long it takes to reverse. Tiny bit interested in this due to stomach issues pain lack of appetite and heart burn.. . but think I will pass just now. One thing I have learned is you need a brain to help all the other body parts if the brain is not working well... care for all suffer so brain first everything else second ... except in emergency of course. Other: Erythematous rash. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 My doctor seems to not have any advice for me today none at all. When I told her I slept all day yesterday she said that is a good thing... she is the one who was in a big hurry to see me today for nothing basically... she checked my bp which I can do myself... I was unable to express other things... I feel drunk still big waste of time... somehow I feel like I am being messed with as I think there are better drugs than this for bp... if there isn't there should be... My bp goes up and down still has for years now... maybe a post ssri effect .. What kind of a doctor specializes in bp... is there such a thing? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I have been drinking a ton of caffeine trying to ward off this effect so far it seems to do little to nothing. Any other ideas? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I am thinking electorytes Beta-Blocker Toxicity Workup Overview Presentation DDx Workup Treatment Medication Updated: Jun 27, 2013 Approach Considerations Perform a fingerstick glucose test, because beta-blockers may be associated with hypoglycemia, especially in patients with diabetes and in children. Also measure serum electrolytes, because hypokalemia may contribute to cardiac arrhythmias. Co-ingestions or concomitant medical conditions may alter other serum electrolytes, so these should be monitored closely, especially in patients with seizures or altered mental status. Measure cardiac enzymes to rule out myocardial infarction in any hemodynamically unstable patient. Blood gas (arterial or venous) analysis may be helpful for managing metabolic acidosis from seizures or cardiogenic shock or rare cases of severe bronchospasm, respiratory acidosis, or hypoxia. Acidosis from poor cardiac perfusion may be manifested by low serum bicarbonate. In a severe overdose that impairs myocardial contraction, chest radiographs may show evidence of pulmonary edema. Electrocardiographic (ECG) results after beta-blocker overdose may include the following: Progressively worsening sinus bradycardia Increased PR intervals Loss of atrial activity Atrioventricular junctional rhythm Widening of the QRS complex Atrioventricular block Idioventricular rhythm Asystole A prolonged QT interval has been observed after sotalol overdose. Ventricular fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia are uncommon because of the antidysrhythmic effects of most beta-blockers, with the exception of sotalol. Proceed to Treatment & Management Hypokalemia Causes, Diagnosis & Treatments - Clinical Key https://www.clinicalkey.com/topics/nephrology/hypokalemia.html Summary. Description. Defined as a serum potassium concentration <3.5 mEq/L (3.5 mmol/L); Chronic hypokalemia with potassium depletion occurs due to ... ranks high on the list of potassium-rich food is apricots I keep some for this reason dried apricots Maybe... but my instincts are saying raw beets so that is what I am having... and maybe an apricot or two.. we will see... food rules WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 From drugs.com Atenolol "POTENTIAL ADVERSE EFFECTSIn addition, a variety of adverse effects have been reported with other beta-adrenergic blocking agents, and may be considered potential adverse effects of atenolol. Hematologic: Agranulocytosis. Allergic: Fever, combined with aching and sore throat, laryngospasm, and respiratory distress. Central Nervous System: Reversible mental depression progressing to catatonia; an acute reversible syndrome characterized by disorientation of time and place; short-term memory loss; emotional lability with slightly clouded sensorium; and, decreased performance on neuropsychometrics. Gastrointestinal: Mesenteric arterial thrombosis, ischemic colitis. " an acute reversible syndrome" Is what I choose to focus on just now... wondering how long it takes to reverse. Tiny bit interested in this due to stomach issues pain lack of appetite and heart burn.. . but think I will pass just now. One thing I have learned is you need a brain to help all the other body parts if the brain is not working well... care for all suffer so brain first everything else second ... except in emergency of course. Other: Erythematous rash. link for this information http://www.rxlist.com/atenolol-side-effects-drug-center.htm WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Still a bit wonky but better. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 My bp goes up and down still has for years now... maybe a post ssri effect .. What kind of a doctor specializes in bp... is there such a thing? Not sure if anyone answered this... A cardiologist comes to mind first. BP can be effected centrally by neurologic and endocrine systems, too (probably others, as well). Just a thought. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
btdt Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 For some reason my doctor did not suggest any of those doctors I can't even guess why not. Thanks for the comment Barb was starting to think I had scared everyone away. Likely has scared a few scared myself too actually this is no way to live. I sometimes take a look at the fb pages of my friends and see how they are living just to see if this is all age related...ect... and can say nope they still have lives. Good lives. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Barbarannamated Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 For some reason my doctor did not suggest any of those doctors I can't even guess why not. Thanks for the comment Barb was starting to think I had scared everyone away. Likely has scared a few scared myself too actually this is no way to live. I sometimes take a look at the fb pages of my friends and see how they are living just to see if this is all age related...ect... and can say nope they still have lives. Good lives. I do the same and upset myself consistently. It's really the only communication I have with people aside from this forum and 1 friend who talks by phone. Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment
btdt Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 We should stop looking it is not going to change over night and just ads to the misery likely I think I do it to get a reality check cause at times due to the same issue you have - don't socialize... I start to thinking we here on this board are the only ones left that make any sense. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 I have been on thin ice due to a drug reaction but it is getting better as I am processing the events of late. I have one thing to add to my update. I had another drug reaction or so it seemed to me at the dentist a couple years ago.. to lidocaine have not had freezing since and my dental health has suffered. I was told I was not allergic if I had been another form of more expensive freezing would be granted for dental work.. I was told at least a year after the event when the drug allergy testing was preformed that best guess was i had a transient ischemic attack at the exact time I had the lidocaine... hence not an allergy. So today I woke up this with a lump over tooth. I had this tooth fixed without freezing since I had the reaction it was easy as it already had a root canal when it broke the repair was painless that is my only dental work since the reaction I have been back a couple of time as I get sinus infections seemingly related to the gum above this same tooth. I have had a lot of sinus infections since and they generally end or start with this same tooth... so I am thinking it needs to go. The lump was back this morning I am on my second bottle of antibiotics for this infection about a third of the pills left... I am going to have to have something done with this tooth... and since the dentist keeps thinking we should save it because it will ruin my smile I am thinking vanity is taking a back seat this time but the freezing I will have to decline... the thought of having a tooth pulled without anything is not a good thought... I am still debating this with myself... it continues peace all. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 going to do something real in real life in the form of distraction peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted May 3, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 3, 2014 sorry for no comments on bp situation Speaking of me personally, I don't know anything about this and it might be the case with other members. We here don't get scared by any misery and suffering. Not all people on the fb are happy: they just have a need to present themselves as happy. I look very happy on my fb but feel more genuine here where I can be BOTH unhappy and happy... very happy about your decision. It's much better than studying medication. I make a very conscious plan of distracting myself in the "real world" as frequently as possible Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 I need both I need to talk walks if my foot does not hurt and talk to my sister and see some people even if I don't want to talk to them... I need to know I am in the land of the living and I also need quiet time..to reflect and let answers come as they do when I am quiet.. and I need to distract and I need to be here.. and other places online that makes some sense out of this odd life I am living. Even when things are dark they are just blips on the path... peace is what I value peace and clarity of mind things that threaten that are gone from my life as I will get rid of them... sooner or later... one way or another. I think we are all seeking a balance and will sort out how to have it eventually. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted May 4, 2014 Member Share Posted May 4, 2014 I read your post in the other forum and am worried about you. I hope you are feeling a bit better today. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Hi B, you have had such a hard time these last weeks. I am really so very sorry. I will comment on up your BP. I do feel that is another symptom of autonomic dysregulation. I have so many sisters, another has that in the form of neurocardiogenic syncope. She takes spironolactone and drinks sea salt water. I don't know if that is good or not, but it is what she does. Hugs! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
btdt Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 I read your post in the other forum and am worried about you. I hope you are feeling a bit better today. I am better today ... I am not sure which of the post your speaking of one I think the mods took down as it was a bit too much for here I am ok please don't worry. I feel changed since this last drug I have to walk very slowly .. it feels like my one foot has turned a bit to a pool of jello the pain remains diffused in those pain areas rather than intense and jarring. I said I was going to address this with my doc going to get all my bits of information in a row and address it all.. but I have not done a thing in that direction.. yet. I feel basically ok to carry on and have enough clarity now to deal if I had to but I don't want to I want to lay low and let it all pass... as that is what I generally do. I feel I need more time and may just take it before I address any of this with the doc the longer I wait the less likely she is to take me seriously.. or that is how I feel but I need more time and chances are I will do nothing and just wait till I don't care what she knows or doesn't know as I have lived with a disconnect between me and doctors now for years what is one more doc who doesn't get it.. Will see what I do. Know that I am on the recovering side and getting better with each day that passes. thank you for asking I appreciate your concern. peace to you WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted May 5, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 5, 2014 I need both I need to talk walks if my foot does not hurt and talk to my sister and see some people even if I don't want to talk to them... I need to know I am in the land of the living and I also need quiet time..to reflect and let answers come as they do when I am quiet.. and I need to distract and I need to be here.. and other places online that makes some sense out of this odd life I am living. Even when things are dark they are just blips on the path... peace is what I value peace and clarity of mind things that threaten that are gone from my life as I will get rid of them... sooner or later... one way or another. I think we are all seeking a balance and will sort out how to have it eventually. peace Dear btdt, what are some other things that you might do to distract yourself from all the symptoms that you are experiencing (and that your health condition allows? One of the key things in my recovery has always been to try and be as active as possible (sometimes it was very little but every little thing is very important). If we get too bogged down in investigating symptoms, we can easily lose a sense of perspective. So, how do you spend your days? I'm glad to see you walked. I find walking (especially in nature) extremely healing. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 That day was not a good walk it was a catotonic drugged out walk.. but I do walk when my foot will be good... not pain. Some.. funny I did not notice that day... talked to my doc about how the drug either reduced the pain or my perception of it she guessed perception since I was in such an altered state... I told her the whole ugly story today and took those pills back to the drug store. And seen the dentist who is confused and sending me on to a specialist as he does not know what is going on but something is. I have a painful lump in the gum when it is touched it is like touching the nerve in the tooth but the tooth had a root canal long ago... I keep getting these infections and going in to see him ... he says sinus and sends me on my way think this is the 4th time now... today I would not leave till he took a close look beyond xrays... and off to a specialist I go. the apt is a long time away yet and my antibiotics are almost done... guess we wait and see.. this dentist is expensive and not covered I am going to have to beg family for money and pay back in tiny bits over lord only knows how long.. I can't keep going on like this it is stupid. So that is it. I did not walk... I do different things with my day depending a lot on how I feel that day... lately been seeing a lot of doctors.. or a lot of the same doctor I should say. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted May 6, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 6, 2014 I once saw a doctor who told me I shouldn't spend too much time with doctors (unless they were my friends - he was an orthopedist who was a bit startled with the amount of medical reports I carried around. he made me think then that whenever I come to see a doctor, they will send me to do a test or something because that's their job so it's a never ending story. Sometimes we shouldn't wait to get better to do something, get involved and be a bit more active but do something, get involved and be active to get better. Also you don't have to feel good to walk or indeed feel better after a walk. Sometimes it's just important to do it: every day, a bit, no matter how you feel. Gentle and mindful walk will be beneficial even for aching feet. Are you familiar with Jon Kabat Zinn? I don't underestimate your health issues but I feel focusing on them so much can't be helpful... I was thinking about you especially in the light of numerous posts exploring various health issues and extensive research into medication. So I remembered this link in our Symptoms and Self-care section. (You know how I kept quoting your post on how you focus on things we CAN do instead of those that we CAN'T? It seems to me that we have somehow lost that btdt lately and I wish that she returns http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6129-the-importance-of-feeling-good/ Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
btdt Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 I once saw a doctor who told me I shouldn't spend too much time with doctors (unless they were my friends - he was an orthopedist who was a bit startled with the amount of medical reports I carried around. he made me think then that whenever I come to see a doctor, they will send me to do a test or something because that's their job so it's a never ending story. Sometimes we shouldn't wait to get better to do something, get involved and be a bit more active but do something, get involved and be active to get better. Also you don't have to feel good to walk or indeed feel better after a walk. Sometimes it's just important to do it: every day, a bit, no matter how you feel. Gentle and mindful walk will be beneficial even for aching feet. Are you familiar with Jon Kabat Zinn? I don't underestimate your health issues but I feel focusing on them so much can't be helpful... I was thinking about you especially in the light of numerous posts exploring various health issues and extensive research into medication. So I remembered this link in our Symptoms and Self-care section. (You know how I kept quoting your post on how you focus on things we CAN do instead of those that we CAN'T? It seems to me that we have somehow lost that btdt lately and I wish that she returns http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6129-the-importance-of-feeling-good/ Yes Bubble you lost me for a bit there I was having a drug reaction. I am better now. I broke my foot in 2011 ... had pain in the same foot immediately after the car accident in 2012 broke the same foot again in 2013... I have back neck and leg foot pain... I do have pain pills and orthotics I walk as much as I think is sensible. I had a MRI recently the results of it has caused my doctor to set me up with a neuro sugeon for a consult. I do have pain apparently now they can see why. Since the accident the broken foot the surgery all within 8 months of each other I had a lot of down time.. I do as much as I can.. some things I just can't do like vacuum and that drives me nuts if I let it. I can't carry a lot and climbing stairs hurts. I did physio up till Feb when the insurance ran out I am petitioning them for further treatment. I have not heard back they are gathering their data. We will see. I am doing exercises mostly in my bed stretching ect.. I have an entire regime as I am not new to this healing thing I had a bad accident before. Mostly I am using non drug ways to treat and deal with pain mostly I do have narcotics in the way of Tylenol #3 for when I really can't take it. I have tapered down from post surgery doses and try to take them only to sleep as I know how vital sleep in to my health mental and other wise. I am walking a fine line and I am well aware of addiction and don't want to go there however I have to do what I think it right to deal with living in the body I have too. I had two apts yesterday I did see my family doctor and explained to her exactly what affect I had from the Atenolol told her ALL and about my brother in law being stabbed and about keeping the pills for later use. It was good to get an understanding with her of how serious a side effect this was so she knows I can't take that drug or any like it ever again. Next I took the pills back to the drug store where I got them and explained the effect to them ask to have this drug listed as a severe reaction. My third thing to do yesterday was see the dentist... this is the third time he has taken a xray of this same tooth when I had a sinus infection... again he said there is nothing wrong with that tooth or the teeth on either side of it. I told him it hurts and this is the third time I have been there with a sinus infection for this same area. The last time he said the sinus infection can make my teeth ache... I bought it ate my antibiotics and still had ear issues ect my family doc never sees anything wrong inside my ear did not yesterday either tho it is still hurts. I have to admit I was feeling a bit crazy by the circumstances of feeling there was something wrong when they can't find any cause for it. I almost left to finish my antibiotics and go threw this again in a month or so. But I didn't I said look at the gum above the tooth there is a lump there... so just to appease me he looked... he ran his finger over the gum and pressed the lump I about jumped from the chair. All the teeth in that area have had root canals I have had a ton of dental work $$$$$ a ton. I said why it is I feel like your hitting a nerve like sticking a prod into a tooth when you do that. He said he did not know and was not even sure where to send me to find out. It is going to cost me to find out I have arranged a loan and am going to see a specialist at the end of the month. So I am not crazy... after all. There is a reason for this pain I get there is maybe a reason for these infections... and I will ask him when I get to see the specialist if this whatever it is can cause a pain in the side of the head like being hit by a bat... and raise my bp... tho I know I have been under enough stress to do that. So Bubbles I am getting better. I am feeling more stable now than I did all last wk and truly think the reaction has passed tho I still walk slowly.. I do walk just not near as far as before my foot hurt so much. It appears I hurt my back and not all the pain that is in my foot is caused by the broken foot some of it according to my doc is from my back via that MRI. I know this seems like more trouble than anyone should have all at one time and almost impossible for folks in withdrawal to get their heads around hard for me to live it too... and not fun to read. I don't have any choice about living it... I just have to get thur it best I can. As for grief I think I am doing well in that respect... feeling my feelings ect.. it comes in waves and is not near as intense as it was.. I do love and miss my sister but I I know she is gone and I have to accept it there will be more days of missing her I know that. I am ready for it. I expect it. This tooth thing has been going on for a long time I will be glad to have it settled. For looking after myself I have been resting and going out when I feel like it. I went to the mall the other day and ordered a book on nutrition and bought another one called... You Can Begin Again It is a religious book I keep listening to the author talk about it on tv her name is Joyce Meyers. I thought that is exactly what I need and bought it. I am in the process of reading it and I think it will be a book I read more than once. Already I have visions of sharing the gold in there with people here but first I need to attend to me... and so I am. I would like to thank you for caring enough to make the suggestions you have above and believe me if I had seen another on here come up with that post I sent to you the other day i was be having doubts too ... was it the drug or did she just slip off the edge... but be assured it was the drug I am on the mend if not completely done with it... still taking my antibiotic to hopefully kill this infection and doing what I can to care for myself. This past month has been extremely distressing and all things considered I am holding my own once again. Thank you for caring. Peace to you thank you. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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