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Madeleine
On 2017-10-04 at 11:29 AM, rupa said:

Andy !

 

You cold turkeyed, but never complained much about your symptoms here in the forum.

 

Your depression episode's reason is your daughter's birth.

 

Over the Entire Internet, your's is the only success story about coming off zyprexa.

 

I know how annoying getting dreams (hallucinations)every single day is.

But you would say dreams are nice.

 

Your patience and positive attitude is phenomenal.

 

You will definitely rebuild your life my friend.

The Best life is awaiting you.

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You are my inspiration to taper olanzapine.

 

Did you ever cut the olanzapine with tablet cutter?how did you cut the olanzapine?

Did you cut the 2.5 mg olanzapine with tablet cutter?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Andy thanks for sharing. Your story gave me strength and hope.

 

rupa: I read a couple of other stories of slow tapered who also off  zyprexa. 

 

Rupa: I also Tapered off zyprexa though was on it a very short time-- see my signature. 

 

I cut the 2.5 pills into quarters using a razor blade. I'm still on Zoloft unfortunately and tapering that.... 

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Plshelp
5 hours ago, Madeleine said:

Andy thanks for sharing. Your story gave me strength and hope.

 

rupa: I read a couple of other stories of slow tapered who also off  zyprexa. 

 

Rupa: I also Tapered off zyprexa though was on it a very short time-- see my signature. 

 

I cut the 2.5 pills into quarters using a razor blade. I'm still on Zoloft unfortunately and tapering that.... 

Madeline - you read other stories of others who slow tapered off zyprexa? How are they now? 

 

Are you back to normal after the zyprexa? I can't remember. How long were you on it? 

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Madeleine

Hi Plshelp.  I don't know how they are now, but I found a couple of stories on the internet that kept me going as they tapered off and seemed fine after.  My usage is in my signature.  I was on it a short time, but at a high dose of 10 mg, and then started tapering soon after.  I am OK from zyprexa taper, but am still on zoloft, and if I miss that by a few hours, I feel really bad. It will be a long journey yet. 

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rupa

Dear Andy,

I am tapering from 5 m.g.

I am giving 4 weeks for every taper.

In this way when I reach 0.625 ,I will use 0.625 for 4 weeks.

Then I will use o.625 for every other day four weeks.

Which means I will take Monday I won't take Tuesday.I will take Wednesday,I won't take Thursday.

Like this I will use four weeks THEN FINALLY I WILL STOP.

Is this the right pattern to jump off?

Please reply.

 

 

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andy
1 hour ago, rupa said:

Dear Andy,

I am tapering from 5 m.g.

I am giving 4 weeks for every taper.

In this way when I reach 0.625 ,I will use 0.625 for 4 weeks.

Then I will use o.625 for every other day four weeks.

Which means I will take Monday I won't take Tuesday.I will take Wednesday,I won't take Thursday.

Like this I will use four weeks THEN FINALLY I WILL STOP.

Is this the right pattern to jump off?

Please reply.

Sometimes i held for as long as 3 months,you must listen to what your body is telling you

I never gave myself a timescale,just said one day I will,be off this crap

I supplemented with magnesium to clam my body down,and so times antihistamines for sleep 

I concentrated on exercise and healthy diet,stay away from vit b6 it's to stimulating for the brain 

Be careful taking a dose every other day it doesn't work for everybody,cut out processed foods they are full of chemicals

Healthy food will heal you

 

 

 

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rupa

Andy what is the right pattern to jump off.?how did you jump off?

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andy
2 hours ago, rupa said:

Andy what is the right pattern to jump off.?how did you jump off?

I went very slow at the lower doses that's all I remember

Excercise and a very clean diet really helped

Remember what works for one doesn't for another,listen to your body and don't put pressure on your self to come off quickly

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Bobo32

hey andy,

I am 1 year now off zyprexa and I feel much better. I'm thinking of taking a supplement containing all the B vitamins as well as Ginko and other minerals to help me with persistent tinnitus.

What symptoms you had while on B6 vitamin?

I'm thinking of taking Vitabiotic's Neurozan which contains Ginko as well.

Thank you

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rupa

I will follow your ,kind suggestions strictly Andy.

Thankyou.hugs.

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andy
1 hour ago, Bobo32 said:

hey andy,

I am 1 year now off zyprexa and I feel much better. I'm thinking of taking a supplement containing all the B vitamins as well as Ginko and other minerals to help me with persistent tinnitus.

What symptoms you had while on B6 vitamin?

I'm thinking of taking Vitabiotic's Neurozan which contains Ginko as well.

Thank you

Most meds including pysch drugs destroy your good gut bacteria I suggest symprove probiotic,kefir and lots of natural yoghurt

B6 can flair nerve damage so be careful with it,it's stimulating and made me agitated

You need to supplement with methyl b vits ,be wary of to many vitamins it's best to get it naturally from food

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powerback
On ‎09‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 0:02 PM, andy said:

Most meds including pysch drugs destroy your good gut bacteria I suggest symprove probiotic,kefir and lots of natural yoghurt

B6 can flair nerve damage so be careful with it,it's stimulating and made me agitated

You need to supplement with methyl b vits ,be wary of to many vitamins it's best to get it naturally from food

hi Andy ,I make my own kefir and I love it ,I cant claim its a magic bullet by any means but I'm definitely much more regular and that's a good detoxifier at the least .

PB

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Quest

Hello Powerback.  How have you been?  I sure wish you were closer, I would be in your kitchen everyday!  Your own kefir, awesome!  That's pretty healthy.  Your diet plan sounds exactly what I need, but the thought of all the work boggles my mind right now😳going to have to do something though, I think that one month of remeron really did a number on my insides, still not putting any weight on, look almost skeletal, not my best look🙄

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Quest
On 2016-05-10 at 4:47 AM, andy said:

Hello I always wanted to return to the site and thank all that helped me in the dark hours and also the forum owner and originator for the tireless work that has helped so many people

Heres my thread when I first asked for help http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/6865-andy-hello-tapering-from-zyprexa/

 

I wont go into how I finally quit the drug because it wasnt the normal 10% approach although I tried 5 times and failed miserably.I found a good understanding doctor who helped me reduce and more than anything listened to me without prejudice.This helped enormously,I finally jumped off at 1.25mg and to be honest it wasnt to bad,by far the worst reduction was going just under 2.5mg,I had severe migraines ,nausea,heart palpitations,sickness,depression,mania,mood swings and relentless insomnia.The insomnia was by far the worst symptom as it made me anxious and very irritable ,all this while trying to be a good father and holding down a very stressful and demanding job.Of all the drugs I was put on Zyprexa was the hardest to quit,it was hell and back but it can be done

 

I have recently started my Taekwondo training again that I practiced for over 15 years but couldnt while I was on this terrible drug,I now feel calmer and sleep well.I put on over 3 stone while on zyprexa even though I ate a well balanced diet,I felt lethargic and had no interest in life,that has all changed and the weight is coming off steadily. Excercise has been the most helpful tonic for me and even when I had had zero sleep I went to my class and worked out.It slowly but steadily improved my sleep and made me feel confident again that I could get over all of this,when you start to see improvements you start to see light at the end of the tunnel

 

Things are heading in the right direction and my outlook on life is positive once again.I feel good

 

Once again thankyou for all your help and for people just starting the journey dont ever give in it can be done,god bless you all

 

Andy

What a great story, congratulations~

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rupa

andy please tell us how you are doing,any sign of relapse?is everything good,got new job?new wife? please tell us how are you and daughter.Is your daughter living with you,are you able to look after her single handedly?

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Plshelp

Andy, 

How long were you on the antipsychotics for? How long before you started feeling better after being off? 

Thx. 

Brandi

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andy

Over three years,6 months to a year can’t really remember 

i wouldn’t put a timescale on recovery it’s just another frustration 

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Plshelp

3 years? Omg. That's crazy. 

But you're so lucky you recovered. I feel like a disabled retard. I'm 4 months off and I had to go onto an antidepressant. Nothing is improving. 

 

Did you ever have issues during recovery? 

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andy

Yes I had lots but don’t feel lucky I worked hard at it and was patient 

these things pass you will get better

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Plshelp

Andy, 

Did you ever not know what to do with yourself? My circadian rhythm is totally screwed up and my perception of time is altered severely. I don't have any bodily sensations (can't feel hunger, fullness, thirst or even if I have to go to the bathroom). Plus I have no thoughts, motivation and anhedonia. I feel really unwell and had to go on an antidepressant b/c the depression, extreme suicidal thoughts and despair were eating me alive.

 

I don't know what to do everyday with myself and I just follow ppl around all day. I was following my mom around, but she got sick of me, so now I go and follow my friend Damon around all the time. I'm literally just shadowing them. They eat, so I eat, they drink, so I drink, they go to the bathroom, so I go to the bathroom, they go to the store and I go with them. 

 

Did you ever have any symptoms or issues like this? I'm scared I'm going to be like this forever. 

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rupa

Dear Andy,how did you come out of setraline,how did you taper?or cold turkey?

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andy

very easy in 3  months i had no problems with it

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andy
On 04/11/2017 at 4:43 PM, Plshelp said:

Andy, 

Did you ever not know what to do with yourself? My circadian rhythm is totally screwed up and my perception of time is altered severely. I don't have any bodily sensations (can't feel hunger, fullness, thirst or even if I have to go to the bathroom). Plus I have no thoughts, motivation and anhedonia. I feel really unwell and had to go on an antidepressant b/c the depression, extreme suicidal thoughts and despair were eating me alive.

 

I don't know what to do everyday with myself and I just follow ppl around all day. I was following my mom around, but she got sick of me, so now I go and follow my friend Damon around all the time. I'm literally just shadowing them. They eat, so I eat, they drink, so I drink, they go to the bathroom, so I go to the bathroom, they go to the store and I go with them. 

 

Did you ever have any symptoms or issues like this? I'm scared I'm going to be like this forever. 

yes i was in a terrible mess but started exercising and eating a very healthy diet eventually it paid off

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rupa

Andy How are you?

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andy
On 09/10/2017 at 5:01 AM, rupa said:

 

 

 

3 hours ago, rupa said:

Andy How are you?

Good thanks how you getting on now ?

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rupa

Going on by taking inspiration from your thread.Thank you.

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Zmago1

Congrats Andy for comming off Zyprexa!

I ve been on Zyprexa and Kvetiapin via misdiagnosis (anxiety and lack of sleep)   for 4 months now  and will try to taper slowly. My plan from 3,75 mg is 3 weeks on 2,5 then 3 weeks 1,25 and then 3 weeks 0,625, do you think that is too fast?

Hopefuly goes well because side effects are killing me, I ve been a cyclist all my life (41 y) now I dont have a mood or energy to even ride a bike, put alot of weight and cant concentrate at my job, let alone my sex life gone....

 

Also I would like to ask you how much were you sleeping while on Zyprexa? Because I hadrly sleep 4 h mostly less....

thanks

 

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rupa

Andy

Hope you are good

Are you able to nap day time now?

When we were in medicines we could not able to take restful nap due to racing thoughts and mind disturbance.

I am curious our natural naping ability comes back after so many months out off meds?

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andy

Hi yes I can nap everything has returned to normal but I try and lead a very fit and clean eating lifestyle to stay healthy 

 

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UniEase

Hi Andy,

 

I was happy to find your story today. I was on an antipsychotic as well, 2mg pimozide for a skin infection that I took on/off in 2017 for about 5 months/total. First time I quit CT once skin issue was gone and was fine. But skin issue resurfaced and started taking med again which this time around had zapped me into severe insomnia last Nov. 2017. I tried many drugs to remedy this which you can see in my profile.

 

Insomnia still persists after 4.5 months of my last dose and quitting CT.

 

I had the same realization as well to start detoxing with hot yoga and a clean diet, taking only herbs for the last 2 weeks. I have been sleeping 4-6 hrs (some nights 2 hrs) but broken sleep like 1-2 hrs at a time and very light. But its a start.

 

My other issue is my skin symptoms have returned so am considering reinstating drug at 1/4 mg-1/2 mg max to help skin issue go away again. But I am cautious because reinstatement could help insomnia, have no effect or worsen it. Hard to tell. 

 

Did you detox while you reinstated? When did sleep get better?

About how long was your reinstatement and at what dose? 

Did I read right that you reinstated after 2 years of withdrawal with constant insomnia?

 

I appreciate your support.

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andy

Honestly I can’t remember the details of reinstatement etc but I believe these drugs don’t just harm the brain but also the gut

try a good Epsom salts bath before bedtime and a good live pro biotics your skin issue won’t be cured with drugs just masked 

i used lots of magnesium orally and in baths to relax my body 

your brain will regenerate over time but it’s slow just don’t feed it pharmaceutics and it will heal

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Altostrata

Zmago, please start a topic in the Introductions forum, we will answer your questions there.

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andy
On 30/01/2018 at 3:38 PM, Zmago1 said:

Congrats Andy for comming off Zyprexa!

I ve been on Zyprexa and Kvetiapin via misdiagnosis (anxiety and lack of sleep)   for 4 months now  and will try to taper slowly. My plan from 3,75 mg is 3 weeks on 2,5 then 3 weeks 1,25 and then 3 weeks 0,625, do you think that is too fast?

Hopefuly goes well because side effects are killing me, I ve been a cyclist all my life (41 y) now I dont have a mood or energy to even ride a bike, put alot of weight and cant concentrate at my job, let alone my sex life gone....

 

Also I would like to ask you how much were you sleeping while on Zyprexa? Because I hadrly sleep 4 h mostly less....

thanks

 

I wouldn’t have a plan if I was you just listen to your body and try and go about your normal life as much as you can

i set bench marks on dosage and when I missed them it depressed me and set of anxiety which set off poor sleep

i have been a racing cyclist all my life you will get back to it,I used to say to myself I don’t care how long it takes as long as one day I am ofc this poison

i couldn’t sleep at night but was a sleep walking zombie during the day,slowly it all changed

 

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Bobo32

hey andy hope youre doing well.

 

Im a little over a year now off all psych drugs i have a lot of improvement but still dont enjoy the things i used too before the drugs. I just dont enjoy them and most of the time Im thinking about healing and health issues and stopped envjoying lie.

 

I think zyprexa is the drug that is most responsible for this and I still dont have my brain back.

 

Do you think what im experiencing is reversible?

 

Thank you

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andy

Of course it's reversible I did it and I was a complete mess,excercise,eat healthy go out doors ,sit in a park ,keep moving ,keep busy 

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daybydaystepbystep

Thank you for sharing your story Andy!  I too successfully came off Zyprexa cold turkey.  I wish there were more success stories on the Internet of Cold Turkey survivors.  It took me about 3 months of being off zyprexa (10 mg) to see a lot of recovery.

 

My sleep has recovered a lot too.  the insomnia was the worst.

 

peace, hope, love.  Day by day.

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