Grill Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Bubble. Thanks for your post in the other thread. So Cit or Valium taper? I just cant decide!! S Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted October 11, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 11, 2016 It would be really helpful to put at least approximate dates of your drug history in your signature: when you stopped and started, decreased, updosed, etc. If I were you I would hold to consolidate the progress you've made with reducing Valium. You seem to have had lots of bouncing with drugs so it's no wonder that your central nervous system is so sensitive and reacts badly to any changes. Zou wrote that you held for 1 month but it seems you would benefit from an even longer hold. When your CNS strengthens through a hold reducing will be much less symptomatic and it will allow you to have a reasonable quality of life and carry on with your plans. There is no reason whatsoever to worry about starting a family (you don't have to get pregnant When you feel strong enough )it might take a month, or 2 or even more) I would taper Citalopram first for all the reasons we mentioned earlier. Again, you are on a relatively small dose of Valium and your overall exposure to the drugs has been relatively short. So this would be the real time to work on the non-drug coping skills that Karen mentioned and focus on what relaxes you and makes you feel better. And try to put the worry aside. Easier said then done, I know. Worry is the biggest issue now. It is also a WD symptom and you should treat it as an unwelcome guest: acknowledge it but show it firmly that you don't have an intention of entertaining it. Also don't read too much about other people's situations unless it gives you hope and strength which doesn't seem to be the case. Your story is different and unique and you are writing it. You can write it in such a way that you feel very comfortable being in it. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Grill Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi thanks a million for all the advice. Patience is my biggest issue I'm afraid. And as you also say worry. believe me reading some of the stories on here does me no good whatsoever. Yes it been a traumatic year to be honest with so much happening. So maybe not ideal timing. You might shout at me but I might try another 10% cut next month to see if i feel as rough. Or maybe a 5% cut as you said. And do that every two weeks. I just need to be constantly making progress downwards! Or if you want to really wrap my knuckles then ill just hold everything until the wedding is over and take ti from there. My constant WORRY is that ill continue to find excuses not to drop down! I chat to a brilliant gentleman in England called John who has been a saviour to me. He has the patience of a Saint. He reckons that Valium is much worse as you can develop tolerance to it and that it would be better to get off it first. He also says it can cause brain problems in alter life. But as you say I,m close the minumum daily dose. Toss a coin eh! I feel as if i have found another friend in you bubble. You have been very patient with me. I would like to update you on progress but think i will avoid this site for a while. If you have a personal email addy i could contact you on that would be great. If not then ill keep checking on here. Thank you soooo much Sean Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Grill Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Bubble, Just to let you know i was singing in the shower this morning. So that 3 "bad days" and a week of feeling tense. But still able to work and function and exercise. Not bad for a 10% cut in medication. I'm going to keep cutting the Cit until the wedding (Mid Feb). I go for a sleep test next week and then back to see the sleep consultant. Another small victory eh! Hope your symptoms have passed as well? Harm reduction at all times. G Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted October 13, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi there. It's really great to hear you are doing so much better (I didn't doubt it would happen My situation is a bit more complicated so I got slammed really badly over the past 2 days. For women there are hormonal issues in addition... I totally understand how much it means to be going down and reducing, moving and moving in the right direction. Allow your CNS to enjoy this struggle free period before the next cut. Next time should be easier because now you know what to expect and most importantly, you know that it passes. And there is always an option of a 5 % cut for a smoother ride. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
Grill Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 Oh dear. I wont pry about the hormonal issues! Sorry to hear you're struggling. I know that feeling all too well! I still get the odd flutter at work but i stop and breathe and then I'm fine. if you could be so kind could you explain the 5% thing a little more? Can i do 5% ever two weeks? Or is it a case of figuring out when I'm strong enough to drop again? Thanks again so much. Sean Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted October 13, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 13, 2016 Luckily you don't have to know how hormones influence this whole mess Today is much better than yesterday. These things change so quickly... 5 % would mean that instead of going to 8.1 mg you go to let's say 8.5 mg. When to drop next is as you say dependent on how you feel. The idea is that such a cut wouldn't cause a too strong wobble and that you would bounce back more quickly than after a 10 % cut. You now know how long it takes for your symptoms to appear after a cut so you definitely don't cut before that. It might be a bit more than 2 weeks, hard to tell. The first few cuts are exploring what works best for us and finding a rhythm. Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
dowdaller Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hey sean, just read your thread, I went off xanax in the past with a very quick taper substituting with rivotrill, it was awful for at least two weeks, Unfortunately it takes as long as it takes, fish oils might help and mindfulness. Take it real slow. work helps me, its really hard but the alternative of sitting at home doesnt appeal to me. Good luck I am off all meds 16 months I had been on olanzapine, Effexor zanex and assorted sleeping meds for approx 2 years. Weaned off 375 mg effexor over two years, I had previously come off xanax, rivotrill and olazapine. Reinstated 75mg of effexor on the 22/12/16 Link to comment
Grill Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 Is that croagh patrick in the background? I didnt know you could get xanax in Ireland? Yeah super slow and steady is teh only way for me Im afraid. S Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
dowdaller Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Is that croagh patrick in the background? I didnt know you could get xanax in Ireland? Yeah super slow and steady is teh only way for me Im afraid. S No cooley mountains behind my house, unfortunately you can get xanax i asked for it, (facepalm) I am off all meds 16 months I had been on olanzapine, Effexor zanex and assorted sleeping meds for approx 2 years. Weaned off 375 mg effexor over two years, I had previously come off xanax, rivotrill and olazapine. Reinstated 75mg of effexor on the 22/12/16 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 3, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2017 Hi Grill, I saw you post about male fertility. It's actually been moved to another topic which was started a couple of months ago. It doesn't seem that your drug signature is current. Would you please update it? Thanks. This is the suggested format: A request: Would you summarize your history in a signature - ALL drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly? Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. Link to Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hi there, I was on 10mgs and have tapered off Citalopram over the last 5 months. I tapered the last 1.3mgs in 15 days which is obviously to quick. I lasted 5 days off but my anxiety was too much so I reinstated to 1.5mgs this morning. I'm panicking now that this was the wrong thing to do and don't know how long I will take to stabilize. I start a new job in 10 days time and am dreading feeling anxious. I'm on 5mgs for sleep as well. Any advice would be great. Thanks Sean Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 5mgs of valium for sleep Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Ive been on Citalopram for about 10 months. Can anyone please help me? Im desperate here to know the right thing to do as the next few weeks are crucial for me. Thanks Sean Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Staz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Don't make anymore changes to your meds would be my advice Sean and hope you stabilise. Any knee jerk reactions will just make things worse. i know as it's a mistake I've made in the past. Staz Dosulepin 75mg 1996 - 1997 tapered off no problem - Prozac sporadic use between 1995 and 2011 usually 9 months then off. Mirtazapine 2015 tapered off after 4 months no problem -Prozac 20mg 2012-2015 tapered off no problems Prozac 20mg April 2016-May 2016 stopped ct after 4 weeks due to adverse reaction I believe to be serotnin toxicity due to mirtazapine interaction Escitlopram 10 mg May 2016 - cut to 5mg May 2016 stopped ct November 2016 no W/d's noted Lyrica 300mg May 2016 - July 2017 - Taper from Jan to Jul 17 awful taper. Lofepramine 150mg November 2016 - January 2017 Swift w/d as it didn't work Quetiapine 75mg November 2016 changed to 150 XL May2017 changed to 150mg IR July 2017 reduced to in 25mg steps from July to 50mg Oct 17. 37.5mg 12th Nov 17 - 35mg 20 Nov 17 - 30mg 22 Nov 17 - 25mg 24 Nov 17 dropped to 20mg Dec 17, 15mg Jan 18. Current taken at bedtime. Quetiapine dropped Jan 17th 2018. Dosulepin 75mg May 2017 - increased in 25mg steps to 175mg Oct 17 Reduced to 150mg Nov 17 current taken at bedtime Diazepam 15mg May 2016 - c/t'd by shrink after 6 weeks. Reinstated at 12mg after 4 weeks June 16 - current 4mg 3 times a day morning, 2.30pm and bedtime. Mirtazapine 15mg since March 2015 - current - pooped out within 4 weeks Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hi, Are you saying to keep taking 1.5mgs? I have only taken one dose this morning. Thanks Sean Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Northcoastboy Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Bump Seroxat 1994 then Citalopram 2000- 2014 quit Citalopram CT and descended into Hell with PAWS pollydrugged on following Mirtazapine 30 mgs Seroquel 150 mgs Ativan 2 mgs June 2015 switched from Ativan to 20 mgs Valium Tapered-down slowly. As of 15th March 17, I am benzo free. took 20 months to taper 20mgs Valium. Seroquel tapered off 125mgs from 19 Sept 17 to 26 Dec. 17 current med 30mgs Mirtazapine Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hi. Sorry what does bump mean? Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Northcoastboy Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 It means bump to top of list Sean, so a mod sees it and helps you. Seroxat 1994 then Citalopram 2000- 2014 quit Citalopram CT and descended into Hell with PAWS pollydrugged on following Mirtazapine 30 mgs Seroquel 150 mgs Ativan 2 mgs June 2015 switched from Ativan to 20 mgs Valium Tapered-down slowly. As of 15th March 17, I am benzo free. took 20 months to taper 20mgs Valium. Seroquel tapered off 125mgs from 19 Sept 17 to 26 Dec. 17 current med 30mgs Mirtazapine Link to comment
Grill Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Ok. Thank you. Hopefully someone can give me some guidance. Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Duva Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 If you using citalopram just for 10 months it's very normal that you will get (short term) withdrawal symtoms, maximum 3-4 weeks but after that every thing will become fine. It's also good idea to reinstate small dose ,it will help to ease symptoms BUT be aware about valium. If you use it regularly you will have/get worse problem than ssri! AD since 7 yrs. First prozac (2 years) then sertralin (1 year) then venalafxin 75mg (1 year). Stopped venlafaxin 2015 and got heavy WD symtoms. Reinstate new ad (escitalopram 5mg). WD escitalopram november 2017. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted December 28, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 28, 2017 Unfortunately no one can give you an exact timeline as to when you will start feeling better and while some do recover relatively easily, for others it can take longer. It is best to reinstate at a very low dose, so, yes, hold at 1.5. During the time you have been tapering, your brain has already made some adjustments to the lowered doses and to reinstate too much can be counterproductive. Staz's advice above is very good. It is important not to panic. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 3, 2018 Administrator Share Posted January 3, 2018 Grill, how are you feeling? If all goes well, the 1.5mg citalopram should have taken the edge off your withdrawal symptoms. (I moved your posts here as an update on your Intro topic.) This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Grill Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Citalopram before Diazepam Hi There, Currently on 5mgs Diazepam and 20Mgs Citalopram to help with a bad Diazepam taper! Long story short. Tried all manner of tapers before and failed. Been steady and stable on the above for 2 years. Citalopram has killed my sex drive and been checked by an ENDO and I have borderline low testosterone. He reckons it may be down to the meds. Want to drop the Cit to 10 Mgs on a 10% per month basis before looking at the Diazepam. What is the most effective liquid for dissolving the Cit? Am very familiar with Titration. Want to make it as foolproof as possible. Do people use ethanol? Don't want to drive to work drunk! Thanks in advance Sean Edited July 15, 2020 by ChessieCat added topic title & removed grey highlighting Currently tapering from 20 mgs Valium. Down to 5.62 mgs but struggling really badly with anxiety. Am going to have to hold for a few months. Been taking Citalopram (10mgs for 4 months) but don't think it's been doing anything. 06/10/16 - Started tapering off Cit 14 days ago. Got hit with my first day of anxiety yesterday. Still able to function but just noticeable. Trying to accept it as just a symptom. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 15, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 15, 2020 tips-for-tapering-off-celexa-citalopram From the How to Make A Liquid from Tablets or Capsules topic: On 5/2/2011 at 1:00 PM, Rhiannon said: Originally, Rhiannon was using a small amount of ethanol to dissolve her Celexa. She later changed her method and was successfully dissolving her tablet in water only. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted July 16, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 16, 2020 @Grill Antidepressants are generally activitating. You might find that as you lower your citalopram dose the valium may make you more tired because it is sedating. If this happens you could hold for a couple of months on the same citalopram dose and then start reducing the valium for a while. And then do a hold for a couple of months then go back to tapering the citalopram. taking-multiple-psych-drugs-which-drug-to-taper-first * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
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