Frogie: how to taper off Lexapro and Xanax?

[Frogie]

4 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hi Frogie

I just wanted to jump into this conversation while you're talking about the runs. Just kidding

  I was reading your posts yesterday and I only got about half way through before my eyes tired out. So I just thought I'd come by and say hi. 

 I'm tapering lexapro also and Ativan will come later. So we have that in common. Just wondering what dose you're down to and how it's going. I saw you were going pretty fast in the beginning. Me too. Been trying to stabilize for 3 months w/o a whole lot of luck. Can't catch a good window. 

  I haven't been reading a lot on the forum much lately as it makes anxiety worse. I do talk and whine to Scorpio though. But as I'm thinking about tapering soon, just wanted to see how it's going for you. Are you coming all the way off lex before the xanax? I was on xanax but was switched to Ativan 3 mo ago, unfortunately. Xanax worked much better, especially for the brain fog. 

Anyway. Nice to meet you. Talk soon.     Lg

Hi Littlegrandma:

 

It's nice to meet you too. I really went fast over a year ago and cut my Lexapro in 1/2. I wasn't thinking at all. That's when I found this site and some really good mods that helped me out. It took me a long time to stabilize before I could go down to just 9mgs.  I just dropped to 4.9 on the 9th of November. I've done pretty good on this taper. The 1st couple of days I had akasthisia, which I never had. Scared me pretty good. But I started drinking chamomile tea and that helped a lot. I don't have it anymore and don't want it. They say the lower you go, the harder your symptoms can be. I hope not. I get a lot of nausea. I don't know if I will try to drop again before Christmas or wait. Then I have Xanax. I'm prescribed 4mgs a day, a lot I know, but I only take 3mgs most days. I don't take my night dose. I sleep well, except last night because my back was killing me. Nothing to do with WD. I carried some totes that were too heavy and pulled my muscles in my lower back. What I was told by JanCarol (she's a mod on here), she saved me. Anyways, she said you can't drop your dosage until you don't have a symptom for a full 30 days. So if I don't have symptoms for let's say 15 days, then I get symptoms, I start over on my 30 days. It works. Takes longer to taper, but it's worth it. You have to throw the calendar away and rely on your body. Over the weekend I over did it with sugar and spices and I'm suffering for it. Running to the bathroom every few minutes. You would think I would learn. But I will take Imodium if I'm not better Tuesday morning. If I'm doing well, and I mean really well (which never happens with me lol) I hope to be off Lexapro by the end of January or February, then comes Xanax. I'm really afraid to go off of it. I get a lot of panic/anxiety attacks. Why did you switch to Ativan? I tried it once, and it did nothing for me. Went right back to Xanax. I really feel like I'm pooping out on both meds, but I'm not stopping them and going through h**l like I did when I cut my dosage in 1/2. I've really babbled. I'm sorry. But we do have a lot in common. I would love to stay in touch and be able to help each other out.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

Frogie

i was doing well on my original taper. Went from 10 mg to 7.5 on the first of June. Sick for 2 weeks then felt great. Better than I have in years. Clear head. Lots of energy. The lex made me apathetic. 

  I only waited a week or 2 and tried tapering.5 mg making my own liquid. Must have messed it up. Got sick and couldn't stabilize. Went up to 8 mg then 10 thinking I could start over. Bad idea. I had akathasia and insomnia for 2 months. Couldn't eat. Couldn't stop  trembling or moving. 

  I ended up inpatient at Mayo Clinic. They brought me down 50% in a week. That helped the akathasia but I've been unwell ever since. I was taking xanax sporadically before that. They switched it Ativan x3 a day. I hate it. It doesn't really help. Now I have the fun of tapering that. Been trying to stabilize for 3 mo now. I've only had a few decent days but not a real window. 

  I know the Ativan is pooping out and I think the lex just makes me sick. Never really helped but I was on it for 2 years. 

Itll be great to stay in touch. I'm glad you're doing well.     

 

My diet is pretty healthy. Mostly smoothies, fruits and veggies and protein. Having trouble avoiding pizza. But I don't eat any sugar or caffeine. I miss my coffee. Don't like tea. 

Talk soon.   Lg

[Frogie]

55 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Frogie

i was doing well on my original taper. Went from 10 mg to 7.5 on the first of June. Sick for 2 weeks then felt great. Better than I have in years. Clear head. Lots of energy. The lex made me apathetic. 

  I only waited a week or 2 and tried tapering.5 mg making my own liquid. Must have messed it up. Got sick and couldn't stabilize. Went up to 8 mg then 10 thinking I could start over. Bad idea. I had akathasia and insomnia for 2 months. Couldn't eat. Couldn't stop  trembling or moving. 

  I ended up inpatient at Mayo Clinic. They brought me down 50% in a week. That helped the akathasia but I've been unwell ever since. I was taking xanax sporadically before that. They switched it Ativan x3 a day. I hate it. It doesn't really help. Now I have the fun of tapering that. Been trying to stabilize for 3 mo now. I've only had a few decent days but not a real window. 

  I know the Ativan is pooping out and I think the lex just makes me sick. Never really helped but I was on it for 2 years. 

Itll be great to stay in touch. I'm glad you're doing well.     

 

My diet is pretty healthy. Mostly smoothies, fruits and veggies and protein. Having trouble avoiding pizza. But I don't eat any sugar or caffeine. I miss my coffee. Don't like tea. 

Talk soon.   Lg

You sound like me, went too fast and then got really sick. I'm not doing that again. I get nauseous 4-5 times a month or if I eat something my body has decided it doesn't like all of a sudden. I was sick in October. Had ear infections and strep. Was on 4 different antibiotics. I'm just now feeling better. You are lucky to be by a Mayo Clinic to get help. I live in nowhere land with wheat, corn, cows and tumble weeds. My fiancé got a job out here. We are hoping to be able to move back home next year. I think I'll heal a lot better being with family and friends. Right now I only have 1 friend and you saw everyone call her the nut lady she is. After the holidays we are going on a diet so we will be eating a lot better. You just need to hold, hold and hold some more. I know it's hard but that's the only way you can stabilize. I learned from 1st hand experience. I eat things I shouldn't. But we do eat somewhat healthy.  I eat chocolate once in a while and I have 1-2 cokes a day. Used to drink a 12 pack. I drink water. I'm not giving up my coke lol... I quit smoking almost 2 years ago. Don't miss that at all. That's great that you have a healthy diet. It will be good to stay in touch, we certainly can help each other.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

How long did you have to hold before you started your taper again? It's been 3 months without a good window but I've had some decent days. Today is a bad day. So nauseous and pounding headache. I also have dp/dr and anxiety. The cog fog is the worse. They say it gets better but most days I have my doubts. I'm normally very active. This sitting around is driving me crazy. I just want my life back. 

 

My my son and his girlfriend were just here and I cried. I do that a lot lately. It just comes. Can't seem to control it. 

 

I live in a "town" of 100 people. I love the country. But I'm not far from anything. Only fifty miles from Chicago and 5 miles from the burbs.  So I'm very close to where I grew up and my family. I understand you being homesick. I see my family all the time. Maybe too much. My brothers have been avoiding me a bit more lately. I'm not very good company right now. And they don't believe I'm in withdrawal. They think the drugs are toxic to me so I should just stop taking them. So they don't want to hear about it because I choose to not go off them. 

 

I hope you have have a good night, Frogie. I'm glad you're feeling better now. I can't wait to say that. 

xx lg

[Scorpio]

Hi frogie 

‘well I hope your visits to the loo have eased without having to take the Imodium. I get it when the W/d symptoms all rear their ugly head which is frequently at the moment. The Imodium does seem to balance me for a while. I am going to make myself go with my husband to the supermarket today which has a chemist so will look for the phenergan. 

How lovely to have a fiancé who cooks, we starve when I am incapable of cooking. Hope you enjoyed your spaghetti and it stayed in your stomach. 

Im sure you will be looking forward to seeing your granddaughter over Christmas and will be counting the days. 

[Frogie]

5 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie 

‘well I hope your visits to the loo have eased without having to take the Imodium. I get it when the W/d symptoms all rear their ugly head which is frequently at the moment. The Imodium does seem to balance me for a while. I am going to make myself go with my husband to the supermarket today which has a chemist so will look for the phenergan. 

How lovely to have a fiancé who cooks, we starve when I am incapable of cooking. Hope you enjoyed your spaghetti and it stayed in your stomach. 

Im sure you will be looking forward to seeing your granddaughter over Christmas and will be counting the days. 

Hi Scorpio:

 

My visits have let up thank you. No more diarrhea, but I go 4-5 times a day. That's my normal. A lot of people on here say they go that many times. Imodium does help, but sometimes I get constipated the day after, but not too bad. Over where you live, you don't have to have a prescription for Phenergran? I have to here in the US ? I don't quite understand your health care system. I know you don't pay for it, like we do, but you can get meds without a dr? Somethings we can. But antibiotics, things like that we have to have a prescription. My fiancé is a great cook. I'm lucky. But he does get frustrated because I don't work. He works all day then has to come home and cook. The spaghetti was really good. I need to get a hold of my daughter in law and make plans to see my granddaughter.

 

I hope you feel better today. My back still hurts. I don't know how long it takes muscles to heal.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

15 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

How long did you have to hold before you started your taper again? It's been 3 months without a good window but I've had some decent days. Today is a bad day. So nauseous and pounding headache. I also have dp/dr and anxiety. The cog fog is the worse. They say it gets better but most days I have my doubts. I'm normally very active. This sitting around is driving me crazy. I just want my life back. 

 

My my son and his girlfriend were just here and I cried. I do that a lot lately. It just comes. Can't seem to control it. 

 

I live in a "town" of 100 people. I love the country. But I'm not far from anything. Only fifty miles from Chicago and 5 miles from the burbs.  So I'm very close to where I grew up and my family. I understand you being homesick. I see my family all the time. Maybe too much. My brothers have been avoiding me a bit more lately. I'm not very good company right now. And they don't believe I'm in withdrawal. They think the drugs are toxic to me so I should just stop taking them. So they don't want to hear about it because I choose to not go off them. 

 

I hope you have have a good night, Frogie. I'm glad you're feeling better now. I can't wait to say that. 

xx lg

Hi LG:

 

I was stupid, if you look at my signature you will see I kept going up and down. I finally stabilized at 10mg in October, 2016 and held until January, 2017, then only went down to 9mg. Then in March, 2017, I had to go back up because I couldn't stabilize again until June, 2017. Then I finally started to taper. I could be a lot farther along if I didn't have all the problems. So I took a long time. Just take your time. I've been on these horrible meds for 20 years. I don't know how long you've been on them. I cry. I think that's normal. When you are on the meds you are numb. Then coming off you get emotions, which I think is good. I'm an only child, so I don't have anyone like that to stay away from me. My oldest son, his wife, my granddaughter and my Uncle live 2 1/2 hours away. We moved from my home town 4 years ago to a town of 600 people in the middle of nowhere so my fiancé could get this job. It's horrible. People are so clickish and mean in this town. I just want to go home. My fiancé said we will next year. He has to get 5 years in so he will get his retirement. I don't see anyone. Can't say that. My Uncle comes out for holidays, and last year my oldest son, his wife and my granddaughter surprised me on Christmas. That was great. They don't come out. I live 16 miles from a Shopko ( a very small expensive Walmart type store), 2 dollar stores and a Safeway that gas no bakery or deli. I miss malls and stores bad. You are lucky to be close to family and stores.

 

I have days that I don't feel good. I get anxiety and stress, which my therapist and I are working on, so when I go off the Xanax I can deal with it naturally. Lots of breathing exercises and meditation, which I don't do. I sit with my 16 year old chihuahua, Brownie and watch tv. I watch the game shows and shopping channel. Can't watch the news, makes me too anxious. But I get nausea a lot. 

 

You just have to be patient. I know that's easier said than done. But it will happen for you.

 

I'm glad we met and can help each other.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

Hey frogie

yeah I made huge mistakes too. A little over 2 years ago I took no meds. Now I've got 4 to taper. I'm trying to be patient, Scorpio might not agree, but it's getting harder as I see little improvement. I'm pretty scared. 

 

Is that hat the town you moved from, where your son and uncle live?  It's a haul but not too far to visit periodically. My daughter and her husband only live 10 min from me. I watch my grandbabies a few days a week. They're 5 yrs. and 20 mo. It's been trying times during the  wd. I've had help from my mom and my husband jumps in to help when he gets home from work. He's been cooking also. We're spoiled. His cooking means grilling. I'm not a big meat eater but I eat a little. More of the side dishes. 

 

I dont watch the news much either. Definitely makes the stress rise. I'm not a huge fan of tv. There's a few sitcoms I like. There's usually a game on and I read or do puzzles when my husband watches. I'd rather be outside. 

 

Hope me you're having a good day. Talk later xx lg

 

 

[Scorpio]

Hi frogie

thank goodness you have had some relief and your stomach is settling. I think the Imodium is magic as it calms everything down. I’m sorry your back is still painful. I damaged mine a few years ago, tore two discs and the marrow leaked out and went into the nerve canal. So painful after a few months it healed but is a delicate back now and every so often goes. It went a couple of months ago - my grandson - oh it really knocked my w/d symptoms badly as well as the pain. Fortunately it healed within three or four weeks so I got lucky for once. 

Ive just looked again for the phenergan and yes I can get it online through independent pharmacy. 

Our health system is funded by our national insurance payments and taxes. So it is free but is overloaded with our crowded country and wage freezes doesn’t help with staffing. So the staff are overworked, demoralised, and the waiting lists are long for hips, cataracts etc. Doctors surgeries which are also free are getting more difficult to make appointments to see any doctor let alone the dr you want to see. 

Your fiance sounds a star but I’m sure he just wants you better like mine. 

I woke up with the ever present anxiety ripping me apart again but I was able to get up.  Managed to go to the food store,  cooked a roast dinner for us and took plates round to my daughter and son in law plus one to mash for Jude. They always used to come here Monday night for dinner but now Jude is in more of a routine it clashes with his bedtime.  They live close by so just whip it round and grabbed a quick cuddle as well. 

My running to the loo is gone for the time being thank goodness but every morning I get the loose reaction to the anxiety. Lovely. I never dreamed I would one day wish for a normal loo visit. 

Look after your back and as you already know best cure sit comfortably with brownie. 

 

[Flowers]

Hi Frogie

 

Just stopping by to say I hope you are doing better with the tummy and back problems. Also hope you enjoy your Uncle's visit for Thanksgiving.

 

Take care of yourself and Brownie.

 

Love from Flowers xxx

[Frogie]

21 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hey frogie

yeah I made huge mistakes too. A little over 2 years ago I took no meds. Now I've got 4 to taper. I'm trying to be patient, Scorpio might not agree, but it's getting harder as I see little improvement. I'm pretty scared. 

 

Is that hat the town you moved from, where your son and uncle live?  It's a haul but not too far to visit periodically. My daughter and her husband only live 10 min from me. I watch my grandbabies a few days a week. They're 5 yrs. and 20 mo. It's been trying times during the  wd. I've had help from my mom and my husband jumps in to help when he gets home from work. He's been cooking also. We're spoiled. His cooking means grilling. I'm not a big meat eater but I eat a little. More of the side dishes. 

 

I dont watch the news much either. Definitely makes the stress rise. I'm not a huge fan of tv. There's a few sitcoms I like. There's usually a game on and I read or do puzzles when my husband watches. I'd rather be outside. 

 

Hope me you're having a good day. Talk later xx lg

 

 

Hi LG:

 

My Uncle and friends live in my hometown. My granddaughter lives about 20 minutes away. It was so nice when I was there. Even though I was still alone, I didn't feel alone. I could have my granddaughter almost anytime I wanted. And there were stores. I could jump in the car and go to any store within 10 minutes. My fiancés mom and dad live there too. I'm really close to his mom. It's been a really hard and challenging 4 years. I wish we could just pack up now, but we have to save to move, and need to fix up our mobile that we live in so we can rent it out. We have a small rental house on the same piece of property and have great renters. They are the ones we had dinner with Saturday night.

 

I'm sorry you got on these horrible meds. It's sooooo hard to get off. And they mess with every part of your system from your head to your toes literally. 

 

Please, please, go slow. I'm here now. We will do it together.

 

At least you don't have the diarrhea and nausea like I do, or do you?

 

I'm waiting for my fiancé to call to see if he wants to go to lunch with my Uncle and I. The town 16 miles away has a McDonald's, Arby's, Subway, and Burger King, so we can have that once in a while.

 

I hope you are feeling better today.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

Well everyone,

 

No more diarrhea, but I have a question. It doesn't have anything to do with WD.

 

You all know I pulled the muscles in my lower back carrying something to heavy last week.

 

Does anyone know how long it takes to heal? It's still killing me!

 

Thanks for any information.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

Hey Frogie

i know others have mentioned heat for your back but I believe ice is the key. Heat causes more inflammation though it feels so much better. 

 

Fast food is a great treat once in awhile. Especially since you don’t have it close. I take my grandkids to McDonald’s once in awhile even though I’d prefer to feed them something a little healthier. The playland is a good way to kill time on a rainy day. And of course they love the happy meals. 

 

One more ore year til you can go home. That time will fly by. And by then you’ll be off the lex and tapering the xanax. Glad your uncle is with you for thanksgiving. Are you cooking a turkey dinner?

my sister in law is doing it this year and taking it to my moms house. I usually host the holidays but am taking a pass this year. 

 

Yes i I do get the nausea. Every day for 5 months now. Headaches too. But the pain has lessened on most days, where I can take a Tylenol and alleviate it. 

 

You are chomping at the bit to go shopping. Ha.   I’m not a big shopper but when you get me into a store, I go crazy. I bought 5 dresses last week for a wedding in December.  I returned 3 and a sweater my daughter thought was ugly. Do you have a Costco in your home town?  That’s one store I love. One stop shopping. 

 

Enjoy your lunch. Hope your fiancé can join you.    Lg

[Frogie]

4 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hey Frogie

i know others have mentioned heat for your back but I believe ice is the key. Heat causes more inflammation though it feels so much better. 

 

Fast food is a great treat once in awhile. Especially since you don’t have it close. I take my grandkids to McDonald’s once in awhile even though I’d prefer to feed them something a little healthier. The playland is a good way to kill time on a rainy day. And of course they love the happy meals. 

 

One more ore year til you can go home. That time will fly by. And by then you’ll be off the lex and tapering the xanax. Glad your uncle is with you for thanksgiving. Are you cooking a turkey dinner?

my sister in law is doing it this year and taking it to my moms house. I usually host the holidays but am taking a pass this year. 

 

Yes i I do get the nausea. Every day for 5 months now. Headaches too. But the pain has lessened on most days, where I can take a Tylenol and alleviate it. 

 

You are chomping at the bit to go shopping. Ha.   I’m not a big shopper but when you get me into a store, I go crazy. I bought 5 dresses last week for a wedding in December.  I returned 3 and a sweater my daughter thought was ugly. Do you have a Costco in your home town?  That’s one store I love. One stop shopping. 

 

Enjoy your lunch. Hope your fiancé can join you.    Lg

Hi LG:

 

My fiancé said ice. I've been putting heat on it. I took 1 ibuprofen and now have ice on it. It's been a week . I would think it would heal by now. If it's not better tomorrow I think I might go see the chiropractor. The only bad thing is they always want you to come back, and I won't. My fiancé just called and said I have to go today because of thanksgiving, they aren't open tomorrow-Friday.,so I think I'll call them.

 

We didn't go to lunch yesterday. My fiancé was working in town, so he came home for lunch. That's ok, I got to see him. Then my Uncle and I went to Shopko and he got my granddaughter an outfit for Christmas. I think she will love it. She loves "comfy" pants (sweats and lounge pants). So he got her a pair of those and a cute fleece shirt to go with it.

 

I'm done except for stocking stuffers for my fiancé and Uncle and a chocolate Santa for my granddaughter. I just need to wrap them, yuck.

 

I miss shopping a lot, no we don't have a Costco, it's 175 miles away. We have a membership though. We will get back to it when we move. 

 

I hope it goes fast. My fiancé said he is finding the job that he wants and we aren't going anywhere again. That's what he said this morning. But got to get the work done so we can rent our place out. He us going to start after Thanksgiving with the bathroom. 

 

I hope I'm done with Lexapro by then.

 

I hope you feel better soon. Nausea is no fun. I had it a lot.

 

Usually we do our own Thanksgiving, but I think we are going to my fiancés family. Not sure yet.

 

Thanks for the information on the ice I'll try it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

[brassmonkey]

I'm sorry to hear about your back still bothering you Frogie. I've found that back injuries are like ADWD and take a long time to sort them selves out. Patience and being gentle on yourself are the key. The first step is to get the pain under control and then slowly work on stretching it out and getting it relaxed without re injuring it.

[Frogie]

1 minute ago, brassmonkey said:

I'm sorry to hear about your back still bothering you Frogie. I've found that back injuries are like ADWD and take a long time to sort them selves out. Patience and being gentle on yourself are the key. The first step is to get the pain under control and then slowly work on stretching it out and getting it relaxed without re injuring it.

Thanks Brassmonkey:

 

I've been putting ice/heat on it. And stretching.

 

It's my spine that hurts, so hopefully the chiropractor can make me feel better.

 

Thanks for caring.

 

Hope you are having a good time.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[manymoretodays]

Yah.....me too.  Bummer on the back pain.   I hope it's just spasms, and the chiro is very healing.  As well as maybe giving you some simple posture exercises to help prevent further mishaps.

 

I don't have to do much Christmas shopping.  Wish I could get all generous with some of the great nephews and niece........the outfits, the toys are really fun to look at.   Oh......I meant the one great niece and nephew, I haven't even met yet in person.  As well as the once removed(divorce) 2 young boy nephews that I'll see Thursday!   After all......Christmas is for kids, especially.  I sure love it too most years wherever I am.

 

1 hour ago, Frogie said:

I hope it goes fast. My fiancé said he is finding the job that he wants and we aren't going anywhere again. That's what he said this morning. But got to get the work done so we can rent our place out. He us going to start after Thanksgiving with the bathroom. 

 

I hope I'm done with Lexapro by then.

 

 

Yay......new bathroom by Christmas.............maybe.  I hope it gets done quick.  Do you get into any of the remodeling stuff too? 

 

Good that brass came by.......he can help you with the bm slide method.  You'll only be going down .49 mg(or about 1/2 mg. or .5 mg.) on your next drop, correct?  Or less if you do choose to do the bm slide method.   Which will be a month or 6 weeks from your last drop.

 

Gobble, gobble, gratitude greetings,

 

Love,

mmt 

[Littlegrandma]

Did you get an appt with chiro. today? Ice give you any relief?

 

 Good for you getting your Xmas shopping done. I started but have already given Madelyn some of her gifts. Can’t help it. Your granddaughter will love that gift. I always wear comfy pants around the house. Victoria’s Secret has the most comfy yoga pants. Been wearing them for years. 

 

So, if you go to the in laws for thanksgiving, then you can see your son and his family?? They’re in the same area, right?  That would be nice. 

 

My grandkids will be here any minute, so I better psyche myself up. Enjoy the rest of the afternoon, Frogie.    xx lg

[Frogie]

8 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Yah.....me too.  Bummer on the back pain.   I hope it's just spasms, and the chiro is very healing.  As well as maybe giving you some simple posture exercises to help prevent further mishaps.

 

I don't have to do much Christmas shopping.  Wish I could get all generous with some of the great nephews and niece........the outfits, the toys are really fun to look at.  After all......Christmas is for kids, especially.  I sure love it too most years wherever I am.

 

 

Yay......new bathroom by Christmas.............maybe.  I hope it gets done quick.  Do you get into any of the remodeling stuff too? 

 

Good that brass came by.......he can help you with the bm slide method.  You'll only be going down .49 mg(or about 1/2 mg. or .5 mg.) on your next drop, correct?  Or less if you do choose to do the bm slide method.   Which will be a month or 6 weeks from your last drop.

 

Gobble, gobble, gratitude greetings,

 

Love,

mmt 

Hi MMT:

 

I'm not doing any of the remodeling. Our neighbor is helping my fiancé. It will be done before Christmas.

 

I haven't tried the bm slide, I haven't decided what I'm going to do.

 

I want my back to stop hurting first.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

Just now, Littlegrandma said:

Did you get an appt with chiro. today? Ice give you any relief?

 

 Good for you getting your Xmas shopping done. I started but have already given Madelyn some of her gifts. Can’t help it. Your granddaughter will love that gift. I always wear comfy pants around the house. Victoria’s Secret has the most comfy yoga pants. Been wearing them for years. 

 

So, if you go to the in laws for thanksgiving, then you can see your son and his family?? They’re in the same area, right?  That would be nice. 

 

My grandkids will be here any minute, so I better psyche myself up. Enjoy the rest of the afternoon, Frogie.    xx lg

Hi LG:

 

I got the last appt today. Hopefully he can help. It's in my spine and radiates out. So it has to be out.

 

I ordered everything online. I don't like doing that, but no stores

 

I doubt I'll get to see my kids, they are busy with my daughter in laws family. They don't think.

 

Have fun with your grandkids. 

 

Hope me you are having a better day today.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[manymoretodays]

Yes.....I want your back to stop hurting ASAP too.  Back pain.......ooouch!!!!   I had sciatica a few times.......radiated out and could not move.  I had to just go stand up against a wall until it passed.

 

Ice, heat, antiinflammatories, etc.  And the best chiro out there!!!!  Just get flat on your back in a comfy spot with brownie/t.v./books/computer/etc. and stay there until then.

 

Healing wishes and prayers.

 

mmt

[Littlegrandma]

Hey Frogie 

any relief from the back pain today? Hope so. And hope everything else is good!     Lg

[Frogie]

18 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hey Frogie 

any relief from the back pain today? Hope so. And hope everything else is good!     Lg

Hi LG:

 

It felt great after the chiropractor yesterday, but woke up hurting this morning. And the chiropractor is gone until next week because of Thanksgiving.

 

And now I have a lot of anxiety. I'm sure it's because of my back.

 

Hope you are feeling better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

21 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Yes.....I want your back to stop hurting ASAP too.  Back pain.......ooouch!!!!   I had sciatica a few times.......radiated out and could not move.  I had to just go stand up against a wall until it passed.

 

Ice, heat, antiinflammatories, etc.  And the best chiro out there!!!!  Just get flat on your back in a comfy spot with brownie/t.v./books/computer/etc. and stay there until then.

 

Healing wishes and prayers.

 

mmt

It felt great after the chiropractor yesterday, but this morning it's in pain! The chiropractor is gone until next week.

 

I guess I'll just suffer through it.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Littlegrandma]

Oh this anxiety is horrible. Been up since 3 am trembling. Sorry you’re suffering too. Hope it gets better for both of us as the day goes on.  Lg

[Frogie]

1 minute ago, Littlegrandma said:

Oh this anxiety is horrible. Been up since 3 am trembling. Sorry you’re suffering too. Hope it gets better for both of us as the day goes on.  Lg

So sorry you are having anxiety. I hope it lets up soon.

 

I hope we both feel better soon!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Scorpio]

Hi frogie

good to know the chiropractor helped but sorry it’s hurting again today. The anxiety is a common theme it seems today. Ripping me apart since I woke up, but it’s the same most days. 

Just be kind to yourself, giving your back time to heal is best. When it eases, I was told to do lay on floor, knees up, take both legs from side to side. Also lay on floor, knees up and lift bottom off floor doing pelvic exercise. There are others I was taught if you want more just ask. 

[Frogie]

26 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie

good to know the chiropractor helped but sorry it’s hurting again today. The anxiety is a common theme it seems today. Ripping me apart since I woke up, but it’s the same most days. 

Just be kind to yourself, giving your back time to heal is best. When it eases, I was told to do lay on floor, knees up, take both legs from side to side. Also lay on floor, knees up and lift bottom off floor doing pelvic exercise. There are others I was taught if you want more just ask. 

Scorpio:

 

Thanks so much, it must be anxiety day. No fun at all for any of us.

 

I felt so good when I left the chiropractor yesterday, today it's back where it was. And now he's gone until after Thanksgiving. I don't know if I should try to get into the dr or what. Maybe he can give me some pain pills. But I don't know what would happen with my WD and pain pills?

 

Any help would be great!

 

I'm in tears.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Frogie,

 

I don't know whether you know this, but the idea is that the area which has been damaged (your back), is actually being further damaged deliberately which will cause the patient more pain TEMPORARILY.

 

The point being to break down the muscle fibres that have been damaged so that they heal correctly.  This is why it is called "manipulation".

 

Your chiropractor will have made some corrections by a matter of mm's, so that the damaged areas can heal correctly.

 

Hope this makes sense.  I know this because I had months of osteo!

 

Painkillers would be a wise move to keep you functioning.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

7 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Frogie,

 

I don't know whether you know this, but the idea is that the area which has been damaged (your back), is actually being further damaged deliberately which will cause the patient more pain TEMPORARILY.

 

The point being to break down the muscle fibres that have been damaged so that they heal correctly.  This is why it is called "manipulation".

 

Your chiropractor will have made some corrections by a matter of mm's, so that the damaged areas can heal correctly.

 

Hope this makes sense.  I know this because I had months of osteo!

 

Painkillers would be a wise move to keep you functioning.

 

TC,

JC xxx

JC:

 

I have been through this back in March, but my upper back. 

 

I called the dr and I have an appt. I'm hoping I can get a muscle relaxer and pain pill just to get through the weekend. Then when the chiropractor gets back after Thanksgiving I'll go back to him.

 

What muscle relaxer and pain pill would you suggest on my WD? It would be great to have some input.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

Just now, Frogie said:

JC:

 

I have been through this back in March, but my upper back. 

 

I called the dr and I have an appt. I'm hoping I can get a muscle relaxer and pain pill just to get through the weekend. Then when the chiropractor gets back after Thanksgiving I'll go back to him.

 

What muscle relaxer and pain pill would you suggest on my WD? It would be great to have some input.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Well, I was prescribed a couple of extremely powerful painkillers by a doctor at ER.

 

Naxopren, I think was one and I don't remember the other one.

 

Be sparing with them though as there are side effects like drowsiness.

 

Hope you get some relief soon.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

3 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Well, I was prescribed a couple of extremely powerful painkillers by a doctor at ER.

 

Naxopren, I think was one and I don't remember the other one.

 

Be sparing with them though as there are side effects like drowsiness.

 

Hope you get some relief soon.

 

TC,

JC xxx

Thanks JC:

 

I really appreciate your help.

 

I'm supposed to make a 2 1/2 trip one way tomorrow for Thanksgiving. 

 

I'm going to google muscle relaxers and see what I can come up with.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Frogie]

I hope someone can answer my question before I go to the dr in a couple of hours:

 

As everyone knows, I hurt my back over a week ago. I went to the chiropractor yesterday, and felt really good. This morning I woke up hurting just as bad as I was. The chiropractor won't be back until next week because of Thanksgiving.

 

I have a dr appt in a couple of hours. I want to know if I can take like 800mg ibuprofen and a pain pill, which pain pill? Just to get me through the weekend. I take Lexapro and Xanax.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Scorpio]

Hi frogie

i can’t help.  I’m so sorry but I don’t take any pain killers apart from regular paracetamol. 

[Frogie]

1 minute ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie

i can’t help.  I’m so sorry but I don’t take any pain killers apart from regular paracetamol. 

Thanks Scorpio, I appreciate you trying to help.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Scorpio]

Hi frogie

is your doctor sympathetic. Does he know anything about withdrawal or just like the rest of them. I can’t think of anything to suggest. When mine went the first time I was prescribed co-proxamol. Which is codeine and paracetamol. Strong and way too strong for me so only took one dose and gave up. The other drug was diazepam and I certainly don’t recommend that either. 

Im so sorry you are enduring this as well as w/d. It’s miserable. And only wish I could help more. 

Hopefully the doctor can help. Let ya know what he says. 

Thinking of you.