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Frogie
7 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie

is your doctor sympathetic. Does he know anything about withdrawal or just like the rest of them. I can’t think of anything to suggest. When mine went the first time I was prescribed co-proxamol. Which is codeine and paracetamol. Strong and way too strong for me so only took one dose and gave up. The other drug was diazepam and I certainly don’t recommend that either. 

Im so sorry you are enduring this as well as w/d. It’s miserable. And only wish I could help more. 

Hopefully the doctor can help. Let ya know what he says. 

Thinking of you. 

 

Hi Scorpio:

 

My dr is great. He put me on liquid Lexapro and lets me taper how I want.

 

I just don't know what to take for the pain that won't interfere with the Lexapro.

 

Guess I'll find out, and I'll let you know.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Frogie

Gridley:

 

I hurt my back. Went to the chiropractor felt better. This morning got up hurting again. The chiropractor won't be back until after Thanksgiving.

 

I have an appt with my dr to get something for pain in about an hour.

 

What pain meds are safe to take with Lexapro and Xanax?

 

Thanks,

Frogie xx

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Gridley

Frogie, 

 

Paracetamol is safe at low dosages. These are no interactions between it and Lexapro and Xanax on the Drug Interaction Chart.  I take it from time to time because I too have chiropractic issues.  You can also use a cold pack or ice pack on the area, 20 minutes on, one hour off.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gridley

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7 minutes ago, Gridley said:

Frogie, 

 

Paracetamol is safe at low dosages. These are no interactions between it and Lexapro and Xanax on the Drug Interaction Chart.  I take it from time to time because I too have chiropractic issues.  You can also use a cold pack or ice pack on the area, 20 minutes on, one hour off.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gridley

I've tried that, doesn't work. That's why I'm going to the dr.

 

I talked to the pharmacist and she said almost any pain med is ok, but I don't really trust that answer.

 

Thanks,

Frogie xx

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manymoretodays

So sorry Frogie that the chiropractic adjustment only offered temporary relief.  Hopefully by now you have decided whether some short term narcotic/opiate, or short or long acting anti-inflammatory, or even Tylenol  will offer you the best and safest relief, for your holiday adventures.  I think you had said the ibuprofen( a anti inflammatory created distress on day one or two of the back pain).  I had a wrist sprain early on in withdrawal and did okay with the longer acting type(Naproxen for just one dose.  Then ice and a splint and relief came probably by day 4 or so.  Also heat and as much immobility as you can manage.  Whatever you have found to help even a little.  Also acupressure worked for me as well, when I had pretty severe hip flexor pain.

 

I don't think any of those will really interact with withdrawal or the medications you are on at present.  Sometimes you just have to make the best decision for you, while taking in and listening to the Dr."s "suggestions".

 

Drugs.com is my usual go to site for anything prescription now.  I can bring it on up on my phone even, and read all about whatever is "suggested".  And also check interactions is important as Gridley mentioned above.......especially if you are going to do a narcotic/opiate.

 

Hope you are home now and out of pain for a bit. 

 

Happy Thanksgiving, even if you have to bail on travel tomorrow.  It won't always be like this.  You were able to fully participate in the party with your fiance.   And then the next adjustment with the chiro may hold on friday.

 

Once in college I did Thanksgiving all on my own.  And I think last year I pretty much pouted and self pitied myself sicker.  Let's this year remember all those who don't have a roof over their heads, or nearly enough to eat, or who may have it a whole lot worse, than those of us who chose/choose to undertake this whole "getting off of meds. adventure".

 

I'll be off to the bigger city tomorrow to gather with outlaws(exe's family and son) and then back to my area and will do some tidying up at the palace(main AA place) after/during hopefully much food and laughter.  A beautiful sky at sunset here tonight.  I am getting into some creative cooking.  Yay!

 

Love, healing, faith,

mmt

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12 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

So sorry Frogie that the chiropractic adjustment only offered temporary relief.  Hopefully by now you have decided whether some short term narcotic/opiate, or short or long acting anti-inflammatory, or even Tylenol  will offer you the best and safest relief, for your holiday adventures.  I think you had said the ibuprofen( a anti inflammatory created distress on day one or two of the back pain).  I had a wrist sprain early on in withdrawal and did okay with the longer acting type(Naproxen for just one dose.  Then ice and a splint and relief came probably by day 4 or so.  Also heat and as much immobility as you can manage.  Whatever you have found to help even a little.  Also acupressure worked for me as well, when I had pretty severe hip flexor pain.

 

I don't think any of those will really interact with withdrawal or the medications you are on at present.  Sometimes you just have to make the best decision for you, while taking in and listening to the Dr."s "suggestions".

 

Drugs.com is my usual go to site for anything prescription now.  I can bring it on up on my phone even, and read all about whatever is "suggested".

 

Hope you are home now and out of pain for a bit. 

 

Happy Thanksgiving, even if you have to bail on travel tomorrow.  It won't always be like this.  You were able to fully participate in the party with your fiance.   And then the next adjustment with the chiro may hold on friday.

 

Once in college I did Thanksgiving all on my own.  And I think last year I pretty much pouted and self pitied myself sicker.  Let's this year remember all those who don't have a roof over their heads, or nearly enough to eat, or who may have it a whole lot worse, than those of us who chose/choose to undertake this whole "getting off of meds. adventure".

 

I'll be off to the bigger city tomorrow to gather with outlaw(exe's family and son) and then back to my area and will do some tidying up at the palace(main AA place) after/during hopefully much food and laughter.  A beautiful sky at sunset here tonight.  I am getting into some creative cooking.  Yay!

 

Love, healing, faith,

mmt

Thanks MMT and Gridley:

 

Well, got back from the dr. Have an anti inflammatory, a short term pain med, and something that I take for 4 days. No Thanksgiving in my hometown. Made my fiancés mom cry. I'm sure his brother is going to dog me to no end. He doesn't care for me anyways and likewise. My fiancé is at the store right now buying what he can. I feel so bad. One of his other brothers ended up flat on his back too. Hurt at work, so he and his wife won't be there either.

 

But the dr and I went through drugs.com and made sure I could take everything and it wouldn't interfere with my WD. He was so nice.

 

I told my fiancé to take my Uncle and go, that Brownie and I could stay home and watch tv. But he said he wasn't leaving me alone. Bless his heart.

 

So that's the gist (spelling?). At least we will have some sort of Thanksgiving.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Frogie 

sorry you’ve had to change your plans and won’t be able to make the trip. Seems pretty typical for many of us these days. I feel bad for your fiancés Mom too. I’m hoping I can make it to my moms just 7 miles. Not sure my cns will be able to handle a houseful. But mmt is so right. Let’s be thankful for what we have. 

 

i hope the meds give you some relief. And I hope your Thanksgiving ends up being very special.   xx lg

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8 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Frogie 

sorry you’ve had to change your plans and won’t be able to make the trip. Seems pretty typical for many of us these days. I feel bad for your fiancés Mom too. I’m hoping I can make it to my moms just 7 miles. Not sure my cns will be able to handle a houseful. But mmt is so right. Let’s be thankful for what we have. 

 

i hope the meds give you some relief. And I hope your Thanksgiving ends up being very special.   xx lg

Thanks LG:

 

I felt bad but it is what it is . Could be worse, I could be in the hospital. 

 

I hope you make it. But I totally understand the house full. It's only going to be me, my Uncle , fiancé and Brownie, so quiet.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Scorpio

 Hi frogie

happy to read that your dr was really helpful and hopefully the painkillers will do their job quickly. So sorry that you are not able to travel to your fiancés family but being tucked up at home just the two of you sounds good and less stressful. 

Happy thanksgiving. Hope you manage to enjoy the day. 

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I heard a pharmacist the other day say you shouldn't take citalopram and ibuprofen together cos of risk of stomach bleeding.  Is lexapro is the same as citalopram.  You need to check.

 

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Escitolopram is generic for Lexapro.  Citalopram, what you are on, is generic for Celexa here in the States.  Some similarities.  Some risks I'm sure.  I did see that her Dr. plugged all her meds. into Drugs.com and went over "possible" interactions.

 

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5 hours ago, Scorpio said:

 Hi frogie

happy to read that your dr was really helpful and hopefully the painkillers will do their job quickly. So sorry that you are not able to travel to your fiancés family but being tucked up at home just the two of you sounds good and less stressful. 

Happy thanksgiving. Hope you manage to enjoy the day. 

Hi Scorpio:

 

It just makes me feel bad about his mom.

 

My Uncle is here, but that's ok at least we have some family.

 

Thanks.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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40 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

I heard a pharmacist the other day say you shouldn't take citalopram and ibuprofen together cos of risk of stomach bleeding.  Is lexapro is the same as citalopram.  You need to check.

 

Joy 

Hi Joy:

 

I'm not on anything that has ibuprofen in it. But my dr said you need to be on a hefty dose of both Lexapro and ibuprofen to have a problem.

 

My dr and I went over everything and I also asked the pharmacist, so I think I'm pretty safe.

 

Thanks for checking on me though. I really appreciate it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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5 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Escitolopram is generic for Lexapro.  Citalopram, what you are on, is generic for Celexa here in the States.  Some similarities.  Some risks I'm sure.  I did see that her Dr. plugged all her meds. into Drugs.com and went over "possible" interactions.

 

We went over everything and so did the pharmacist so I think I'm ok.

 

Thanks...

 

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Same to you Frogs. 

 

I slept 9-5 and now putzing in the kitchen again........browsing the internet, causing havoc/whatever.......back to Indian flute music..........Ooooommmmmm.  I should really suit on up and take a walk.  I'm really kind of excited to go on back to the "avenues" area of the bigger city, where I used to live when I first came here.   Envious a bit of your temporary drugged bliss........however not of your physical pain.  A little nervous........outlaw family and ex, but it always goes fine.........I am just so emotionally raw lately.........using all my skills and tools though.........all of them.......spiritual and psychological.    Holidays- Hollow days as a friend of mine says........are/can be hard.........memories, expectations, etc.   

 

Love, peace, healing/"in recovery", growth and faith, 

 

mmt

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46 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Hi Joy:

 

I'm not on anything that has ibuprofen in it. But my dr said you need to be on a hefty dose of both Lexapro and ibuprofen to have a problem.

 

My dr and I went over everything and I also asked the pharmacist, so I think I'm pretty safe.

 

Thanks for checking on me though. I really appreciate it.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

1. What's your anti inflammatory then?  Steroid?  Naproxen is a high dose, longer acting form of ibuprofen.   Prednisone or other?  Prednisone is a steroid.

2. pain killer

3. unknown....?

 

Anyway.......short term and then more chiro, correct?

 

Best for back healing and pain relief,

 

busybody mmt

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, manymoretodays said:

 

1. What's your anti inflammatory then?  Steroid?  Naproxen is a high dose, longer acting form of ibuprofen.   Steroid?  Prednisone or other?

2. pain killer

3. unknown....?

 

Anyway.......short term and then more chiro, correct?

 

Best for back healing and pain relief,

 

busybody mmt

 

 

 

 

I know I'm on Flexril, which my dr and I had a huge talk about that because they say not to take it with Lexapro, but he said it was because of seritonin syndrome. And since I'm on a low dose of Lexapro, I would be fine. Percocet, just 1/2 tablet if I need it and an anti inflammatory (can't remember the name) I think it's Robaxin, or something like that. He was so kind. He spent I bet 30-45 minutes going through all the meds with me so I would be ok. No steriod. Stretching and heat/ice. Then the pharmacist and I went over it all too.

 

Short term 4 days that will get me by for the chiropractor.

 

I should feel better by then.

 

Thanks for asking.

 

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

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10 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Naproxen is a high dose, longer acting form of ibuprofen.  

 

Naproxen and ibuprofen are two different kinds of NSAIDs.  They may have similar mechanisms of action and similar side effects but they are not the same.

 

Best,

 

Andy

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Just now, apace41 said:

 

Naproxen and ibuprofen are two different kinds of NSAIDs.  They may have similar mechanisms of action and similar side effects but they are not the same.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Hi Andy,

 

I was dumb and took Bayer Back & Body which is asprin. But now I have it under control. You are correct that ibuprofen and NSAID's are different. 

 

I hope you you have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

 

Thanks for thinking of me today.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Frogie said:

You are correct that ibuprofen and NSAID's are different. 

 

Hi, Frogie.  Just to clarify so we don't confuse anyone -- NSAID stands for "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory" so that ANY medicine that reduces inflammation that is not a steroid falls into that category.  Aspirin is one kind.  Ibuprofen is another.  Naproxen is a third and tylenol is still another.  There are many, many more including prescription meds like meloxicam (mobic), etc.  Isolated use of these to control pain is not likely to interfere with your other meds but regular use can increase effects of things like blood thinning, stomach distress, etc.  It is generally best to stay away from them because they become very easy to overuse which can bring on other issues, especially for those of us with compromised systems (nervous, immune, digestive, etc.).  

 

In reality, how each of us will react to any modality, INCLUDING chiropractic, acupuncture, etc. is an open question because we are so individual and those modalities are designed to modify the central nervous system.  In most cases, they are not going to create issues, but there are certainly individual reports of people being activated by things like massage and chiropractic.  

 

All other things being equal, we would sequester ourselves in a big bubble to avoid these outside influences on our system as we try to heal.  That, of course, is not realistic (although your days in the chair with Brownie and the TV sound like you are getting close ;)).

 

Have a nice Thanksgiving all you in the States and a good day to the rest of you.

 

Best,

 

Andy

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32 minutes ago, apace41 said:

 

Naproxen and ibuprofen are two different kinds of NSAIDs.  They may have similar mechanisms of action and similar side effects but they are not the same.

 

Best,

 

Andy

 

Thanks apace.  I stand corrected.  Same family.......distant cousins, however.  Sort of like Citalopram and Escitalopram.    Naproxen was good for me for one dose.  After that.........well, bleech.........  I'm a pretty good one dose patient for the worst of physical pain.......thankfully........so far........and extremely grateful that I haven't had to struggle with too much in the way of physical limitations.

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I know I'm on Flexril, which my dr and I had a huge talk about that because they say not to take it with Lexapro, but he said it was because of seritonin syndrome. And since I'm on a low dose of Lexapro, I would be fine. Percocet, just 1/2 tablet if I need it and an anti inflammatory (can't remember the name) I think it's Robaxin, or something like that. He was so kind. He spent I bet 30-45 minutes going through all the meds with me so I would be ok. No steriod. Stretching and heat/ice. Then the pharmacist and I went over it all too.

 

Short term 4 days that will get me by for the chiropractor.

 

I should feel better by then.

 

You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes........     You've never considered the just cannaboid(no THC), medicinal marijuana,  some type of more natural stuff........as you are in a "legal" state and in comes in all forms.......cookies even.....?   All different strains and combinations.........probably as affordable as Dr. co-pays and such where you live, with many different practitioners.   I did see where JanCarol mentioned that way back here in your introduction/journal.  Maybe for some relief of anxious/fears/obsessions/ etc. ?  It does seem to have mixed reviews as far as helping or hindering here at SA.  Just wondered.  It's nothing like smoking weed, from my understanding........when used for chronic illness........which we all really do have........in varying degrees and symptoms. 

 

Yah......Best.  Gobble, gobble.

 

mmt

 

 

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Sorry.......couldn't edit anymore.  For myself, I wouldn't use it now..........still reconfiguring so very much with my nervous system.  Yet, I remain open to the idea as a maybe later, just as I have more recently found I am better off staying open to possibly one pharma. A/D or other........far off in the future type of thing and hopefully not..........    Oh and of course it's illegal here.

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4 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

 

Thanks apace.  I stand corrected.  Naproxen was good for me for one dose.  After that.........well, bleech.........  I'm a pretty good one dose patient for the worst of physical pain.......thankfully........so far........and extremely grateful that I haven't had to struggle with too much in the way of physical limitations.

 

 

You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes........     You've never considered the just cannaboid(no THC), medicinal marijuana,  some type of more natural stuff........as you are in a "legal" state and in comes in all forms.......cookies even.....?   All different strains and combinations.........probably as affordable as Dr. co-pays and such where you live, with many different practitioners.   I did see where JanCarol mentioned that way back here in your introduction/journal?  Maybe for some relief of anxious/fears/obsessions/ etc.  It does seem to have mixed reviews as far as helping or hindering here at SA.  Just wondered.  It's nothing like smoking weed, from my understanding........when used for chronic illness. 

 

Yah......Best.  Gobble, gobble.

 

mmt

 

 

Unfortunately, you do what you have to do. But at least my dr is good with this stuff, for being an old country dr. He works with me so well. He doesn't want me on these meds any longer than necessary, so he gave me 4 days worth of the Flexril. And I'm cutting the percocets in half. The anti inflammatory is the thing that is making me "funky". I only take it 2 times a day.

 

I guess I'm lucky I found this dr. A lot of people out here don't like him because he is an old country dr, but he knows so much it isn't funny. Never been married and studies all the time. He's in his 70's and smarter and Han these young Drs here.

 

Enough of that.

 

I will be fine.

 

Thanks for caring.

 

Happy Thanksgiving.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Hope it all helps and the aftermath is minimal.  I was too scared to even try Flexeril once......so, you're being brave.  Good old country Dr......... probably knows what's what about the overzealous prescriptions of psycho drugs and the lengthy times people are told to stay on them.  Therein......most of our problems.

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13 minutes ago, apace41 said:

 

Hi, Frogie.  Just to clarify so we don't confuse anyone -- NSAID stands for "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory" so that ANY medicine that reduces inflammation that is not a steroid falls into that category.  Aspirin is one kind.  Ibuprofen is another.  Naproxen is a third and tylenol is still another.  There are many, many more including prescription meds like meloxicam (mobic), etc.  Isolated use of these to control pain is not likely to interfere with your other meds but regular use can increase effects of things like blood thinning, stomach distress, etc.  It is generally best to stay away from them because they become very easy to overuse which can bring on other issues, especially for those of us with compromised systems (nervous, immune, digestive, etc.).  

 

In reality, how each of us will react to any modality, INCLUDING chiropractic, acupuncture, etc. is an open question because we are so individual and those modalities are designed to modify the central nervous system.  In most cases, they are not going to create issues, but there are certainly individual reports of people being activated by things like massage and chiropractic.  

 

All other things being equal, we would sequester ourselves in a big bubble to avoid these outside influences on our system as we try to heal.  That, of course, is not realistic (although your days in the chair with Brownie and the TV sound like you are getting close ;)).

 

Have a nice Thanksgiving all you in the States and a good day to the rest of you.

 

Best,

 

Andy

Wow Andy,

 

You explained that so well. I'm a pharmacy technician, but I haven't picked up a book in about 8 years I bet.

 

I'm so glad my dr is working with me and spent all the time with me. He really knows his stuff. No bed side manner, but I did get him to smile yesterday.

 

I really appreciate you taking time to explain all of this so everyone would understand. 

 

He only put me on 4 days, he said that was plenty with my WD. Very smart.

 

So here I sit. Took my meds sitting in my chair with Brownie. Won't be doing much. Thank goodness my fiancé is a wonderful cook. The parade, football, ice/heat and stretching, that's my Thanksgiving. And of course eating lol...

 

But I'm thankful I have a dr that could help, and my fiancé and Uncle.

 

Thanks again Andy. I really appreciate everything you do for me and everyone on this site.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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2 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Hope it all helps and the aftermath is minimal.  I was too scared to even try Flexeril once......so, you're being brave.  Good old country Dr......... probably knows what's what about the overzealous prescriptions of psycho drugs and the lengthy times people are told to stay on them.  Therein......most of our problems.

He is great. He's letting me taper at my own pace.

 

It is only 5mg Flexril, very weak, but helps. He said that the meds would act stronger because of my WD. He's smart.

 

I trust him, especially taking all the time with me.

 

Thanks for caring.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Yup great.  And I should have referred to my own obsessions/fears/anxiety/etc. at times.  Kept it to my own experience of withdrawal.  Still learning.......gratefully.  In the real interactions.....I mean live type........I try to just remain silent and pause and really pick my words more carefully.  I'm horrible at listening for long periods........oh even sometimes short periods..........lot's of room for growth.  Thanks for the space and chat.

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4 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Yup great.  And I should have referred to my own obsessions/fears/anxiety/etc. at times.  Kept it to my own experience of withdrawal.  Still learning.......gratefully.  In the real interactions.....I mean live type........I try to just remain silent and pause and really pick my words more carefully.  I'm horrible at listening for long periods........oh even sometimes short periods..........lot's of room for growth.  Thanks for the space and chat.

You are fine talking about yourself. I do that, and I'm sure I will on your thread. That's how we all learn.

 

I try to pick my words carefully but doesn't happen either.

 

I think we are a lot of alike. You have helped me a lot, and I really appreciate it.

 

Gobble gobble 🦃🦃🦃

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Hi Frogie  - thanks for wishing me well on my thread. 

 

I am so sorry you are still suffering with your back and really hope the meds you got today help.

 

So both our plans were scuppered - me to UK  and you to your fiance's mum. That's life I guess and it could be so much worse.

 

I hope you manage to enjoy your Thanksgiving meal pain free!

 

Lots of love and hugs

 

Flowers xxx

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2 minutes ago, Flowers said:

Hi Frogie  - thanks for wishing me well on my thread. 

 

I am so sorry you are still suffering with your back and really hope the meds you got today help.

 

So both our plans were scuppered - me to UK  and you to your fiance's mum. That's life I guess and it could be so much worse.

 

I hope you manage to enjoy your Thanksgiving meal pain free!

 

Lots of love and hugs

 

Flowers xxx

Thanks Flowers:

 

I guess we can both be thankful we could be worse.

 

I hope you feel better soon.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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Hi frogie

how is your back, any improvement now you are taking the painkillers your doctor advised. Hope you are still taking it easy and resting it so it can heal.

did you enjoy your day yesterday with your fiancé and uncle - I hope so. Is today also a holiday or back to work.  I went to brave Black Friday today with my husband for about 3 hours it’s a bit of a damp squib here but apart from the usual high anxiety it was good I got out. Forced me into putting make up on some decent clothes and making an effort. 

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1 hour ago, Scorpio said:

Hi frogie

how is your back, any improvement now you are taking the painkillers your doctor advised. Hope you are still taking it easy and resting it so it can heal.

did you enjoy your day yesterday with your fiancé and uncle - I hope so. Is today also a holiday or back to work.  I went to brave Black Friday today with my husband for about 3 hours it’s a bit of a damp squib here but apart from the usual high anxiety it was good I got out. Forced me into putting make up on some decent clothes and making an effort. 

Hi Scorpio:

 

My back is better, but I don't know if it's all the meds or it's really getting better. I have been taking it very easy. Our Thanksgiving was nice. I missed my fiancés mom, but we had a nice dinner. Quiet. We watched the parade and football. I did venture out this morning to get some stocking stuffers before they ran out. I have a gift card to buy and I'm done. I'm glad you got out. I can totally understand getting dressed. I love my comfy clothes. Hope you are feeling better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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hi frogie

That’s good news its probably a bit of both rest and pain relief. Good to know you enjoyed your day even thought it wasn’t what you had planned. Never mind Christmas and hopefully seeing your granddaughter during the holiday will be something to look forward to. It’s not long now. 

Yes I finished my shopping today some online and some in the shops. Now im searching for a couple of small gift boxes and bows for the wrapping then it will be thinking about food luxuries. Oh and the writing of Christmas cards and wrapping presents. Hopefully will take my mind off the anxiety. 

Keep looking after that back to let it heal don’t overdo it. 

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1 hour ago, Scorpio said:

hi frogie

That’s good news its probably a bit of both rest and pain relief. Good to know you enjoyed your day even thought it wasn’t what you had planned. Never mind Christmas and hopefully seeing your granddaughter during the holiday will be something to look forward to. It’s not long now. 

Yes I finished my shopping today some online and some in the shops. Now im searching for a couple of small gift boxes and bows for the wrapping then it will be thinking about food luxuries. Oh and the writing of Christmas cards and wrapping presents. Hopefully will take my mind off the anxiety. 

Keep looking after that back to let it heal don’t overdo it. 

Hi Scorpio:

 

I'm just waiting for my granddaughters boots to be delivered from Amazon then I'm done except for getting a gift card for my Uncle. He was with us today so I couldn't do that. Then I have to wrap everything, yuck... I'm glad you got yours done. I only send out a few Christmas cards so that won't take long. I hope the meds the dr gave me are healing my back. It's an anti inflammatory, muscle relaxer and a pain pill. I've only taken 2 1/2 pain pills. I only take 1/2 at a time. The anti inflammatory med works good, but kinda knocks me loopy. I wish it would just hurry up and heal. Glad you got out.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

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joy2730

Hi Frogie

 

We are all using Amazon - I have just ordered Esme''s baby first laptop from Amazon.  I don't have a lot to buy for at Christmas.

 

You sound like you are coping well and no significant withdrawal symptoms.  Good for u

 

Joy 

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