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Thanks for that, cpu.

Bloody venlafaxine - I have been parked on it since 2002.

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40 minutes ago, peng said:

Thanks for that, cpu.

Bloody venlafaxine - I have been parked on it since 2002.

 
i feel for you.

i have been on Amisulpride since 1998 (medicated since 1990) - have never been able to successfully stop it. i don't think that i'll ever successfully get off it.

It seems to be that it's an impossible situation. There hasn't been & isn't the practical / appropriate understanding / help / support to get off it. i have Never been able to even access appropriate psychological help. It's  joke. i have tried everything that i can do & that is available.

16 years of being dedicated to a healing / sobriety path - healers, self help etc - has Not resolved things. i need proper / professional treatment services.

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Oh cpu,

Ughs and hugs.  I'm still doing that darn federally mandated behavioral health committee here in my State.  You know.......the one that needs to be 50% peers.  And nary a shrink in evidence, and I still don't have my voice........to succinctly give input...... that might even change just one persons perception and understanding.  I don't even know if I'm learning much as far as how all the wheels are greased and keep turning.  Complicated......so very political........  How do I talk about......."hey, maybe for some we could just not medicate and keep them safe and free until the episode clears.  And maybe we could support folks wanting to get off their medications."  I'm getting closer though.......to succinct........sometimes.

Anyway.......I come to this thread of yours a lot........this collection of yours. 

Not everything is resolved for me either.  Let's just keep suiting on up and showing on up in our lives, okay?  You've got the dose down anyway.......

Love, and peace, and healing/inrecovery, and growth,

mmt

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2 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Oh cpu,

Ughs and hugs.  I'm still doing that darn federally mandated behavioral health committee here in my State.  You know.......the one that needs to be 50% peers.  And nary a shrink in evidence, and I still don't have my voice........to succinctly give input...... that might even change just one persons perception and understanding.  I don't even know if I'm learning much as far as how all the wheels are greased and keep turning.  Complicated......so very political........  How do I talk about......."hey, maybe for some we could just not medicate and keep them safe and free until the episode clears.  And maybe we could support folks wanting to get off their medications."  I'm getting closer though.......to succinct........sometimes.

Anyway.......I come to this thread of yours a lot........this collection of yours. 

Not everything is resolved for me either.  Let's just keep suiting on up and showing on up in our lives, okay?  You've got the dose down anyway.......

Love, and peace, and healing/inrecovery, and growth,

mmt


Hi. Thanks. i am with you on all that. They have now set up a local NHS peer support / nurse mental health drop in service. i have had zero contact with any mental health services for the past 6 years. i went along & saw them there, & dropped off some cards for my forum. i didn't feel comfortable in the place. The peers were all medicated & compliant, & there was the undercurrent of potential psychiatric treatment for anyone too unwell. 

i can't ever trust the system, but i also see a certain sense in me Not trying to fight it all any more.

i feel at this stage it's the joint responsibility of the whole of humanity to try & create a far better World / system for everyone.

On one level absolutely everything is political & i hate politics, but at this stage on one level politics is probably the only thing that can change it all. We have had over 40 years of dominated right wing neoliberal capitalism, & it needs to change.

Wishing you love, light, peace & healing as well.


 

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......Oh, there was this at today's monthly mtg.  The opportunity always arises to go before the legislature when bills are up to be changed.  That all happens really fast and is done for this year now.  When the bills come out or the possible changes come out....... it all happens really quick.  I at least know the time frame and can be ready next year.    And.......I may be prepared next year in time to head on in and speak briefly about something or other.  The thing is......pretty much the whole committee would have to be in favor or disfavor.  I don't know........they might let me go rogue.  Many state employees on the committee and then included in the peer percentage now are family members of those afflicted.  The family members get to me........I'm like......."what is your label or what is your part in their illness?"  Only in my head though......I don't say it out loud.  I'll get there...........  Maybe I won't even know when I make a positive difference somewhere.

 

And I do get paid......B).......travel stipend $35.00 U.S.  Today I just did the call in option though......no pay for that.

 

S'okay and shoot, I did it again........late night on my puter.

 

Best,

mmt

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27 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

......Oh, there was this at today's monthly mtg.  The opportunity always arises to go before the legislature when bills are up to be changed.  That all happens really fast and is done for this year now.  When the bills come out or the possible changes come out....... it all happens really quick.  I at least know the time frame and can be ready next year.    And.......I may be prepared next year in time to head on in and speak briefly about something or other.  The thing is......pretty much the whole committee would have to be in favor or disfavor.  I don't know........they might let me go rogue.  Many state employees on the committee and then included in the peer percentage now are family members of those afflicted.  The family members get to me........I'm like......."what is your label or what is your part in their illness?"  Only in my head though......I don't say it out loud.  I'll get there...........  Maybe I won't even know when I make a positive difference somewhere.

 

And I do get paid......B).......travel stipend $35.00 U.S.  Today I just did the call in option though......no pay for that.

 

S'okay and shoot, I did it again........late night on my puter.

 

Best,

mmt

 

The way i see it right wing neoliberal capitalism is out of control. The entire World is increasing it's march towards right wing nationalism / popularism.

 

i'm sorry to sound negative about it all, but i feel that the realities of it all also need to be seen for what they are.

 

Donald Trump's Latest Attack on Americans With Disabilities Isn't Just Atrocious Bigotry — Look At the Policies He's Enacted

The Trump administration has adopted policies that appear to be nothing short of a concerted attack on the landmark Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA).

 

https://www.alternet.org/donald-trumps-latest-attack-americans-disabilities-isnt-just-atrocious-bigotry-look-policies-hes?src=newsletter1091787

A quiet genocide of the disabled in America

 

https://medium.com/@emilywolinsky/a-quiet-genocide-of-the-disabled-in-america-a35982e6abb5

 

Useless Eaters: Disability as Genocidal Marker in Nazi Germany

by Mark P. Mostert

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7019

A lot of these ideological debates about aetiology & best approaches to health & social issues seem pretty pointless in relation to the realities that many people are actually facing, unless protected by money & privilege.

 

UN confirms that UK government’s treaty violations were both grave AND systematic

 

https://www.disabledgo.com/blog/2017/07/un-confirms-that-uk-governments-treaty-violations-were-both-grave-and-systematic/

 

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CRPD/Pages/InquiryProcedure.aspx

 

Austerity linked to 120,000 extra deaths in England

16 November 2017

 

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1117/161117-austerity-deaths-england

 

Countless evidence for what is actually going on.

 

i don't think that it is too strong a word to call all this Fascism - at the least it is far right / economic murder & the precursor to full Fascism. But lets Not also forget that the UK / USA Created & started all the Eugenics & abominable treatment of the poor, sick, mentally & physically disabled & mentally ill in the first place, especially in the 19th & early 20th Century, with Hitler / Fascist Germany simply picking up the Baton.

 

Total MSM blackout on all these areas for considerable time now. But it also has a lot to do with collective denial & mass media brainwashing of the general public, & that i think generally most of the general public support it all, as they did in the 1920's / 30's.

 

https://www.regent.edu/acad/schedu/uselesseaters/text/2743414051_1.pdf

 

There's Nothing that i can do about it all - & what plays out is what plays out.

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peng

cpu and mmt, best wishes to you both.

 

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And heyo again cpu,

 

I saw some of the Trump stuff just now.  And some video on bringing back asylums that I could not even watch/touch. 

And honestly.......I think the best we can do is do our very best to keep the peace inside, and then...........pass it on...........just the peace.  That helps heal others and the Universe somehow and ourselves.  Good to know our truths as well.........or seek and find them?  Idk.  We really can heal ourselves to some degree.

 

Good however, to stay informed.  Good to step away once in awhile too.  And focus on improvements.........in spite of it all.

 

Anyway.......I hope I didn't contribute to your getting or feeling more riled up about it all.  Not my intention.  And always thankful that you keep me up to date on what is out there.  Just don't let it inside, okay?

 

Best to you too peng!

 

L,P, H/IR, and G,

mmt

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Yesterday, while channel-hopping, I saw Trump live at the NRA.  He reports that a top hospital in London is like a war zone hospital because of "KNIVES! KNIVES! KNIVES!" 

A degree of alarming truth in this, it has to be said, even shocking for us in the UK.  However, his basic knowledge about the stats of per capita incidents is either non-existent or he chooses to ignore those facts.  (A politician choosing to ignore important facts? - Nah! - you're putting me on!)

 

Once again, I feel that we are living in a science fiction comic story.  So surreal.

The thing is guys, we cannot change the world much.  Only do what you can, but focus primarily on yourselves till you are better - no selfishness there - 'cos you both seem well worth it.

Love and best wishes.

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14 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

And heyo again cpu,

 

I saw some of the Trump stuff just now.  And some video on bringing back asylums that I could not even watch/touch. 

And honestly.......I think the best we can do is do our very best to keep the peace inside, and then...........pass it on...........just the peace.  That helps heal others and the Universe somehow and ourselves.  Good to know our truths as well.........or seek and find them?  Idk.  We really can heal ourselves to some degree.

 

Good however, to stay informed.  Good to step away once in awhile too.  And focus on improvements.........in spite of it all.

 

Anyway.......I hope I didn't contribute to your getting or feeling more riled up about it all.  Not my intention.  And always thankful that you keep me up to date on what is out there.  Just don't let it inside, okay?

 

Best to you too peng!

 

L,P, H/IR, and G,

mmt

 

Thank you mmt & you are right with it all. It's better to try & focus on the peace, kindness & love. Things do get to me at times. Yesterday i found especially hard. 

i am prone to a negative & critical view on things at times.

 

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On 5/4/2018 at 8:30 PM, manymoretodays said:

I saw some of the Trump stuff just now.  And some video on bringing back asylums that I could not even watch/touch.

 

i think that the whole of society - everyone - is going to have to have a very serious & open dialogue / discussion / debate about everything at some stage.

 

About the state of this global society / culture / 'civilisation' itself & about a lot of the problems that we collectively face as a species.

 

This whole mental health area - i can see all sides to it all. i think that there has to be some kind of compromise between all the different groups / camps / positions on it all.

 

The severity issue i think has to be seriously addressed by society & psychiatry. Some 3% of the population do suffer genuine / severe mental illness & they can't simply be left to the ravages of this society / system with most of them ending up in dire social circumstances, the streets & criminal justice / prison system - something practical & sensible has to be done for them. The past 40 odd years of right wing neoliberal capitalism & dominance of the baby boomer generation has caused a lot of problems. All the anti / critical / alternative psychiatry / medication areas have utterly failed to address the mental health crisis since de-institutionalisation.

i can see why some people are calling for the return of psychiatric institutions, & some people are far better off in them.

 

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On 5/11/2018 at 1:06 AM, cpuusage said:

Coming Out Of The Spiritual Closet

 

https://emergingproud.com/watch-the-film-2/

 

Loved.  This.

 

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