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MaizeNblue81: Tapering Zoloft during severe acute Xanax WD


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Ok I'm so sorry I know everyone is gonna get made at me for this post and this is the last time I'll post like this I promise but I really and worried and today is much worse than yesterday and I'm so close to going to the hospital I feel like I'm losing all touch with reality and the physical and emotional symptoms continue to get worse so please help me I don't know what to do or if this is normal and I have to ride it out or if I'm really in trouble here?

 

 

Ok this is crazy and honestly I feel like I'm losing it and between the extreme increases in the physical and emotional symptoms I feel like I'm dying and having a psychological breakdown!

 

I've been off now 7 months and my symptoms have been unbearable and consistent throughout but over the past 9 days I have been hit with much more severe symptoms I guess and extreme wave and I've been told that it's not uncommon to experience this even at 7 months but this wave is literally close to sending me to the hospital!

 

The severe extreme pressure, burning, numbness and pain in my head has gotten 10x worse and the horrible evil racing thoughts and intrusive are scaring me to the point I'm almost ready to go to the hospital!

 

This all started a week ago this last Sunday when I noticed a severe increase in my symptoms and I haven't done anything different I was planning on dropping the Zoloft before this hit and of course I did start work again 7 weeks ago but was able to manage my symptoms ok with some bumps until last week and now the past 9 days have been unbearable and I barley made it through work last week and this week I had to leave work early Monday because it was so bad and last night I actually got 8-9 hours of sleep but woke up with severe burning numbness and pain in my head and emotionally it was like my mind was spinning out of control and racing with crazy and I couldn't slow it down!

 

It's gotten worse as the day has went on and with the emotional and physical symptoms I've already mentioned I can hardly think or even stand up, I feel nauseous light headed and dizzy severe DP/DR confusion and intrusive thoughts, extremely agaitated very anxious and in horrible pain!

 

My symptoms were consistent up till the end of month 6 going into now month 7 but now I honestly don't know if I can survive this wave much longer!

 

Someone please help I don't know what to do? I don't know if I can keep working like this and I'm not gonna even try to drop the Zoloft right now this is crazy!

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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maize, what is keeping you from going to bed at 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. every night?

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First thank you to you all for your post and feedback! I appreciate very much and it's hard cause I feel so alone in this with doctors not having a clue and my family not understanding at all what I'm going through I feel so alone and it's nice to know I'm not the only going through this although no human being should ever have to suffer this way and unless you've been through it I guess you couldn't understand how scary and how much torture and suffering is involved!

 

I'm trying to hold on and hang onto hope that their is some end to this and hopefully soon cause I don't know how much more I can take and it was bad before the last 10 days but this wave has left me wandering what in the world is happening to me and will I survive this?

 

The symptoms are the worst I have faced since I've been off or detoxed in October and I wouldn't which this kind of mental or physical suffering on anyone and between the physical pain and the emotional distress it's almost too much to bare and left me on my knees begging for some relief soon!

 

I'm still not sure where I'm at with this or how much of this is still benzo recovery and what is the Zoloft but I feel like I'm stuck and don't know what to do?

 

This wave over the last 10 days has brought even more severe and intense pressure, pain, burning and numbness to my head and the psychological symptoms are even Moore severe and very scary and it's hard to believe any of this is normal even given the situation and my symptoms are not only more intense but have changed dramatically were before the main and most severe was the head pressure and physical symptoms in my head now the emotional symptoms are just as severe and are really scaring me to the point I feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown on top of the physical symptoms!

 

I've tried to explain the head pressure the best I can but the emotional ones are even harder to explain but I'll try. Today I noticed and I guess you would call it DP/DR but it's almost like not being in reality anymore like my brain is on auto pilot and the very small piece of who I was once is crying begging to fight through all the symptoms and get out it's like and out of body experience were I have no cognitive ability at all, my brain has a mind of its own with the waves of intrusive thoughts and racing thoughts and it's like I hear myself at work talking to customers and doing my job but almost from the outside looking in like that's really not me doing it! I'm losing all touch with reality with this severe wave on top of the physical symptoms and it's really scaring me bad!

 

I feel out of touch light headed dizzy very nauseous, like I'm gonna pass out or my brain is just gonna shut down and I can't control it anymore it just thinks crazy all the time and it's hard to even function!

 

I don't know if any of this is making since or if it's normal durning this stage of recovery but I was no where near this bad especially the emotional symptoms 2 weeks ago and if I thought I was in hell then well that was a piece of cake compared to the last 10 days!

 

If this is a wave will it end will it let up soon? Could the Zoloft not only be effecting the physical symptoms but the emotional too? I just don't understand how afte 7 months I can get hit like this I haven't changed anything on the Zoloft on 10 weeks I've been holding due to the symptoms but this is crazy!

 

I'm sorry I'm really trying but the physical are so bad I can hardly keep upright and the emotional symptoms make me feel like I'm losing my mind and all since of reality and like I'm gonna be out back in the hospital!

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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Did you answer the question Alto asked?

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Well as far as sleep I don't get home from work till 9 or so and that's one thing but I've the last week and a half it's been a lot to do with this major uptick and increase in my symptoms.

 

The head pressure numbness burning and physical symptoms are unbearable and the psychological symptoms are just as bad and so very scary with the severe confusion being extremely disoriented the DP/DR and the increased anxiety with the horrible intrusive and racing thoughts makes it really hard to sleep when I do lay down to rest because of the physical pain and the emotional distress.

 

It really has changed and become that severe over the last 11 days and I'm trying to hold on but the physical symptoms are unbearable and the emotional ones are very severe and I feel like I'm having a psychological breakdown on top of the physical pain so that's the most of it and has been that way since this wave hit me.

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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And yet you go to work every day and work impossibly long hours, even at the weekends it seems.

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Well do I need to quit my job? I get two days off a week but I don't know what to do cause I need to work and I have 3 kids to support

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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I am sorry that you're going through so much, but we all are! I visited your thread to offer support, but your posts FREAK me out. Please try to remain calm and LISTEN to the advice given. I know I can only barely handle one panicky person (myself) and I assume others are in the same boat. We want to help and support you, but please stop scaring us!

Mid 2014 - June 2016 (~ 2.5 yrs): sertraline 75mg. Under advice of my Pysch NP, weaned off in 1 month

Sept 2017 - Feb 2017 (6 months): Latuda (dose 20mg up to 80mg). Under advice of Psych NP, weaned off in 6 weeks (Jan - mid Feb). Tirtated down 20mg every 2 weeks.

Nov 2017 - Feb 2017 (3 months): lamictal 100mg. Abruptly taken off. This was the "wean": 100mg, 50mg, then off

Feb 2017: sertraline 150mg for 1 week to bring me out of a severe suicidal depression. Abruptly stopped due to serotonin syndrome. Tried to reinstate 50mg a week later, but the serotonin syndrome symptoms came back. Not possible to reinstate sertraline.

March 2017: remeron 7.5mg. Took one dose that knocked me out for two days. Refused to take it again

February 2017 - March 2017: Ativan 1mg. Took 5 pills total spread out over the course of 3 weeks. No longer taking it.

6/16/18 - 6/26: celexa 1.25mg

6/27/18 - 6/29: celexa 2.5mg, 6/29 had burning and agitation within 30min of dose

6/30/18 - present: celexa 1.25mg

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I'm sorry I'm not trying to scare anyone but these are my symptoms they are very real and what I face everyday and if I had all the answers and it wasn't very scary for me personally I wouldn't be on here trying to get help, advice, and support with what I'm going through.

 

So my post are not to scare anyone and I like you are already sacred enough. What these drugs did to me and to do others that unfortunately have had this kinda of experience from taking these drugs is a kinda of suffering and pain no human being should ever have to go through.

 

My doctors are clueless and part of the reason I'm in this mess that and my ignorance of these drugs and the long term effect of taking them and my family doesn't understand at all so again I come here and post because I am scared these symptoms are very scary and I'm looking for support and answers from people who know more than me or have experienced the same or similar situations not to scare anyone at all..........

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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I'm sorry for my last post, Maize. I understand you're scared because I'm scared, too. This is a TERRIFYING situation for all of us - that's why we're all here. Please try to remain calm though. When I read your posts it's like seeing the inside of my own mind when I'm going through my worst panic attacks. I think if you can slow your thoughts down it might help you a little. You're working a full time job with demanding hours! That shows you have the strength and fortitude to get thru this. You are stronger than you give yourself credit for. I certainly cannot work right now, but am raising (if you can call it that right now) my 3 & 5 year old to the best of my ability.

 

I've looked for the "miracle" cure, begged God to have mercy on , even contemplated trying another med (which is out of the question!). I truly empathasize, Maize. I feel the way you do every single day, but I can't entertain or give into those thoughts otherwise I'd probably jump off a bridge. ???? Hang in there, you CAN do this.

Mid 2014 - June 2016 (~ 2.5 yrs): sertraline 75mg. Under advice of my Pysch NP, weaned off in 1 month

Sept 2017 - Feb 2017 (6 months): Latuda (dose 20mg up to 80mg). Under advice of Psych NP, weaned off in 6 weeks (Jan - mid Feb). Tirtated down 20mg every 2 weeks.

Nov 2017 - Feb 2017 (3 months): lamictal 100mg. Abruptly taken off. This was the "wean": 100mg, 50mg, then off

Feb 2017: sertraline 150mg for 1 week to bring me out of a severe suicidal depression. Abruptly stopped due to serotonin syndrome. Tried to reinstate 50mg a week later, but the serotonin syndrome symptoms came back. Not possible to reinstate sertraline.

March 2017: remeron 7.5mg. Took one dose that knocked me out for two days. Refused to take it again

February 2017 - March 2017: Ativan 1mg. Took 5 pills total spread out over the course of 3 weeks. No longer taking it.

6/16/18 - 6/26: celexa 1.25mg

6/27/18 - 6/29: celexa 2.5mg, 6/29 had burning and agitation within 30min of dose

6/30/18 - present: celexa 1.25mg

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Read psalm 23 it gives comfort when things get very bad. I know because when no Dr or anyone else could help I begged, cried from my soul for this hell to stop and I did find a bit of peace knowing there was someone far stronger than any human

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I am trying very hard to take it one day at a time and to keep hope that I will heal that one day this will be over and I will get through this and be stronger and better able to help someone else who may have now or in the future suffer this horrible situation that no human being should ever have to suffer.

 

The past year of my life I feel like had been taking from me because of these drugs that were saposed to help me and doctors that were I thought looking out for me and trying to help me and I can not begin to explain the suffering and torture I've been through because of it.

 

It's really hard when doctors can't help and no one especially my family understands and they just look at you like your crazy. The doctors just want to force more mess and my family just talks down to me and looks down at me and thinks I'm crazy except for my mother which even though she doesn't understand she is the only one I believe who truly cares and tries to be their for me.

 

It's so hard cause I feel so alone and like my world has been torn apart and destroyed and their is no coming back from the damage that has been done.

 

It's been bad for a year now and since being detoxed in October but the last two weeks has been the worst since coming off benzodiazepines in October and I feel like I've had to watch everyone else go on with their lives have fun laugh make plans and enjoy life from the outside in while I just continue to suffer everyday doing whatever I can just to make it from one min to the next with no quality of life and no happiness since last may. I feel like any hope I had for the future is gone.

 

I'm still not sure and don't understand how after 7 months it's still this bad and I'm still suffering so very much and to have it actually get worse and not better is very discouraging and hard to handle.

 

I'm not sure how much of this is still benzo WD how much is the Zoloft or even if it's a combination of both but this is absolutely miserable and even if this is mostly benzo related I'm sure the Zoloft hasn't helped my situation and I still have to deal with that at some point too.

 

My job is hard and very stressful but I had been out of work for over a year and I have 3 kids to support so I push through trying to make it for them although the last two weeks has tested all my strength and I don't see how I've even made it through with how severe these symptoms have been and I don't know how much longer I'll be able to hold on or if this will get any better so I just try to take it one day at a time and do the best I can to try and make it but the last two weeks has left me barley hanging on.

 

It was so bad last night I literally came home laid in my bed played a few games on my phone trying to take my mind off of it and relax waiting for 10 to take my meds and ended up passing out with my phone in my hand and didn't even get to take my Zoloft last night.

 

 

So between the severe pressure pain burning numbness and all the physical aspects of this including the major fatigue the being light headed and dizzy all the time being physically sick and nauseous feeling like I'm gonna pass out and the severe emotional symptoms the confusion DP/DR the intrusive and racing thoughts my mind just wanting to shut down and feeling like the old me is gone and my brain is about to shut down I'm really struggling and trying to hold onto hope that this wave will pass and maybe it will at least improve a little soon cause this is crazy.

 

Thank you for all your support and I'm doing my best but after last night and this weekend even having the women I was seeing actually my ex who I've been taking too again for the last 3 months basically tell me that she couldn't handle my mental issues it was too much and she couldn't be with me anymore I'm really trying to hold onto any kind of hope at this point.

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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Hi maizeNblue81:

 

I've read most of your thread.

 

EVERYONE here is in the same boat here. Trying to withdrawl from something. Some people do really well, some don't.

 

I was just like you for a while last year. Always posting for help. Saying the same thing over and over again. It got so bad that Alto was screaming at me to STOP!

 

I have a hemogima on my liver (it's a bunch of blood vessels all bunched together sitting there). It sometimes makes me nauseous. I had a well known liver dr look at my CT scan. He called and talked to me in length. It's there, you are usually born with it, but I wasn't for some reason it just showed up. I thought I had to get off my meds immediately because it's all metabolized through the liver. This dr reassured me I was ok. And I wasn't going to die from it. I now take a Vitamin E for my liver. That's the only supplement I'm on right now. I dropped everything else for now.

 

So, do you know what I did? I started to listen to the mods and Alto. They really know what they are talking about and what to do. I've had to go up in my dosage and hold, hold, hold. That's the hardest part. But I did it.

 

My only withdrawal symptom (so far), has been horrible nausea. I woke up with it everyday and all day long. I switched to liquid Lexapro, and it has helped a lot. You can get a very accurate dosage from the liquid.

 

I was really stupid and cut my Lexapro in 1/2 June, 2016. That's what started my nausea. So now, a year later, I'm at 7.9mg. I'm getting ready to make a small cut of 1.67%, the 1st. I hope it works.

 

You have to listen to the mods, and your body. These symptoms are because you are tapering too fast, believe me I learned. And I learned that I'm not the only one here that needs help. The mods are wonderful if you follow their advise. Some of them have finally reached the 0 mark and are off the meds, some are going through exactly what we are going through, and doing the best they can.

 

Please, stop posting everything everyday. I know you want to know what's going on. I did too. But I learned to google. Google survingantidessants.org then what you are looking for. Mine was always surviving antidepressants.org:nausea. You would really be surprised what you will find. Or just google, like I did Lexapro withdrawal nausea. I know you are on a different med but I found a lot of information. I still will ask a question. But I do it one or two sentences, and someone will come by and answer me. It may not be a mod, but someone that is going through the same thing I am, and they will give me advise on how they handle it.

 

I'm just trying to help. You just need to sit back, take a deep breath and know you will be ok. Everyone here is very nice and helpful, once you learn to stop posting every little thing over and over. They get tired of seeing the same thing. They have 1,000's of people on here to help. Not just you and me. Once I realized that, I got a much better result from people. And I've even made "friends" with a few people.

 

You will be fine. I am, and I've been through it all, just like everyone.

 

Sorry I've been short, but just be cool about all of this and you will do a lot better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

P.S. The Drs don't know what they are talking about. They get their information from the guys that come into the office handing out free samples. Are those guys going to say anything bad about their meds? No. They want the Drs to prescribe that med. No one knows about the withdrawal that anyone will go through. And no, it's not fair, but you have to learn to live with it unfortunately.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Well as far as sleep I don't get home from work till 9 or so and that's one thing but I've the last week and a half it's been a lot to do with this major uptick and increase in my symptoms.

 

The head pressure numbness burning and physical symptoms are unbearable and the psychological symptoms are just as bad and so very scary with the severe confusion being extremely disoriented the DP/DR and the increased anxiety with the horrible intrusive and racing thoughts makes it really hard to sleep when I do lay down to rest because of the physical pain and the emotional distress.

 

It really has changed and become that severe over the last 11 days and I'm trying to hold on but the physical symptoms are unbearable and the emotional ones are very severe and I feel like I'm having a psychological breakdown on top of the physical pain so that's the most of it and has been that way since this wave hit me.

 

hi maize ,your basically writhing my own experience especially the last while ,today I'm manic every different feeling and emotion in one minute ,I totally get the need to vent we all need that, but please read up on breathing techniques, our anxiety is so bad  it gets us in to spirals of negative  thinking and catastrophic thinking .

 

I spend most of the day reading my thoughts and not letting it bubble over ,it works but takes time ,I understand wanting to go hospital and get sedated ,twice in 2 weeks I've wanted this but as we all know doctors and hospitals what do they actually achieve for us, if u need that there is no shame .

 

I personally regret talking to family bout it ,because my head is like a car crash inside ,but because I work so hard I and most of us don't look sick .so we never get the reaction we want .

 

I see u switched to Prozac ,I'm thinking of doing this because I'm so unstable ,did it work for u switching .I'm not even stable enough to try a taper again for now.

wish you the best .

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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No I didn't switch to Prozac I'm still on Zoloft for now and have been since I was out on it in the hospital back in October so 7 months now. I'm holding at the current dose which after I switched to the liquid and realized their was a discrepancy in the measurement of the liquid with the 100ml sports bottle I'm using and the 10ml syringe using we figured somewhere around 87.5mg so I've just keep everything the same for the last 10 weeks but I want to do some measurements to try and get that more accurate to set up a more accurate taper down the road and as soon as this major wave lets upbive been experience for the last two weeks

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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No I didn't switch to Prozac I'm still on Zoloft for now and have been since I was out on it in the hospital back in October so 7 months now. I'm holding at the current dose which after I switched to the liquid and realized their was a discrepancy in the measurement of the liquid with the 100ml sports bottle I'm using and the 10ml syringe using we figured somewhere around 87.5mg so I've just keep everything the same for the last 10 weeks but I want to do some measurements to try and get that more accurate to set up a more accurate taper down the road and as soon as this major wave lets upbive been experience for the last two weeks

 

if anyone could feel what we suffer for a second ,so when I hear people around me moan about normal things it grates on me ,what we would do for that rather than what we have too put up with .

we can never loose hope ,as bad as it is I'm proud I'm getting through the crippling depression I have.

when u are very bad I recommend been very careful what u watch,anY misery or drama in the world  sets my panic and anxiety off .

take care

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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PB:

 

Just curious, was this post aimed at me?

 

I never meant to offend anyone.

 

I was only telling my story, and trying to help.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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No I didn't switch to Prozac I'm still on Zoloft for now and have been since I was out on it in the hospital back in October so 7 months now. I'm holding at the current dose which after I switched to the liquid and realized their was a discrepancy in the measurement of the liquid with the 100ml sports bottle I'm using and the 10ml syringe using we figured somewhere around 87.5mg so I've just keep everything the same for the last 10 weeks but I want to do some measurements to try and get that more accurate to set up a more accurate taper down the road and as soon as this major wave lets upbive been experience for the last two weeks

 

if anyone could feel what we suffer for a second ,so when I hear people around me moan about normal things it grates on me ,what we would do for that rather than what we have too put up with .

we can never loose hope ,as bad as it is I'm proud I'm getting through the crippling depression I have.

when u are very bad I recommend been very careful what u watch,anY misery or drama in the world sets my panic and anxiety off .

take care

PB

I can relate to the point about misery and strife in the world causing ill effects while in withdrawal, par exemple the Manchester bombing. My brother and family only live about 40 miles from Manchester so it's an issue that caused me some angst. I can't imagine what the relatives of those people of the kids who died must be feeling. It just frustrates the hell out of me that Europe is going down the frigin drain primarily​ because of do gooder leftists. The dogs in the street could tell you this is the case, but the unimaginably dense politicians can't seem to see it or comprehend it.

May 2007 - October 2007 Citalopram 20 mg od. 1st Antidepressant ever taken. No problem with fast taper and no withdrawal effects. No antidepressants for over 5 years.

 

January 2013 started Citalopram 20mg.

March 2014 Switched to Sertraline 50 mg od.

23rd June 2016 started taper 45mg

23.07.16 40.5mg 23.08.16 36.45mg 27.09.16 34.65mg 24.10.16 32.90mg 28.11.16 31.26mg 04.01.17 32mg 25.02.17 31mg 22.03.17 30mg 14.04.17 29mg 09.05.17 28mg 07.06.17 27mg 08.06.17 26mg 13.07.17 25mg 07.08.17 24mg 24.08.17 23mg 13.09.17 22mg 12.10.17 21mg 10.11.17 20mg 04.12.17 19mg 01.01.18 17mg 25.01.18 15mg 22.02.18 13.5mg 25.03.18 12.15mg 

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No I didn't switch to Prozac I'm still on Zoloft for now and have been since I was out on it in the hospital back in October so 7 months now. I'm holding at the current dose which after I switched to the liquid and realized their was a discrepancy in the measurement of the liquid with the 100ml sports bottle I'm using and the 10ml syringe using we figured somewhere around 87.5mg so I've just keep everything the same for the last 10 weeks but I want to do some measurements to try and get that more accurate to set up a more accurate taper down the road and as soon as this major wave lets upbive been experience for the last two weeks

if anyone could feel what we suffer for a second ,so when I hear people around me moan about normal things it grates on me ,what we would do for that rather than what we have too put up with .

we can never loose hope ,as bad as it is I'm proud I'm getting through the crippling depression I have.

when u are very bad I recommend been very careful what u watch,anY misery or drama in the world sets my panic and anxiety off .

take care

PB

I can relate to the point about misery and strife in the world causing ill effects while in withdrawal, par exemple the Manchester bombing. My brother and family only live about 40 miles from Manchester so it's an issue that caused me some angst. I can't imagine what the relatives of those people of the kids who died must be feeling. It just frustrates the hell out of me that Europe is going down the frigin drain primarily​ because of do gooder leftists. The dogs in the street could tell you this is the case, but the unimaginably dense politicians can't seem to see it or comprehend it.

 

 

its ok to have an interest but in a state of withdrawal we have to be so careful and mindful of our thoughts and feelings .even before withdrawal I stopped watching current affairs late at night ,it wound me up, this is a well none thing  .  

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Hi maizeNblue81:

 

I've read most of your thread.

 

EVERYONE here is in the same boat here. Trying to withdrawl from something. Some people do really well, some don't.

 

I was just like you for a while last year. Always posting for help. Saying the same thing over and over again. It got so bad that Alto was screaming at me to STOP!

 

Please, stop posting everything everyday. I know you want to know what's going on. I did too. But I learned to google. Google survingantidessants.org then what you are looking for. Mine was always surviving antidepressants.org:nausea. You would really be surprised what you will find. Or just google, like I did Lexapro withdrawal nausea. I know you are on a different med but I found a lot of information. I still will ask a question. But I do it one or two sentences, and someone will come by and answer me. It may not be a mod, but someone that is going through the same thing I am, and they will give me advise on how they handle it.

 

I'm just trying to help. You just need to sit back, take a deep breath and know you will be ok. Everyone here is very nice and helpful, once you learn to stop posting every little thing over and over. They get tired of seeing the same thing. They have 1,000's of people on here to help. Not just you and me. Once I realized that, I got a much better result from people. And I've even made "friends" with a few people.

 

 

Thank you for sharing your experience and reaching out Frogie. It is much appreciated.

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Hi maizeNblue81:

I've read most of your thread.

EVERYONE here is in the same boat here. Trying to withdrawl from something. Some people do really well, some don't.

I was just like you for a while last year. Always posting for help. Saying the same thing over and over again. It got so bad that Alto was screaming at me to STOP!

Please, stop posting everything everyday. I know you want to know what's going on. I did too. But I learned to google. Google survingantidessants.org then what you are looking for. Mine was always surviving antidepressants.org:nausea. You would really be surprised what you will find. Or just google, like I did Lexapro withdrawal nausea. I know you are on a different med but I found a lot of information. I still will ask a question. But I do it one or two sentences, and someone will come by and answer me. It may not be a mod, but someone that is going through the same thing I am, and they will give me advise on how they handle it.

I'm just trying to help. You just need to sit back, take a deep breath and know you will be ok. Everyone here is very nice and helpful, once you learn to stop posting every little thing over and over. They get tired of seeing the same thing. They have 1,000's of people on here to help. Not just you and me. Once I realized that, I got a much better result from people. And I've even made "friends" with a few people.

 

 

Thank you for sharing your experience and reaching out Frogie. It is much appreciated.

Bubble:

 

You're welcome. I just wanted to pass on a valuable lesson that I learned here.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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I do appreciate and I am very thankful for all the help I have received here and I don't take it for granted and I am not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone I'm just honestly trying to hold on and survive especially after the last two weeks and this weekend has been nothing short or completely miserable and very scary.

 

This wave or major uptick in symptoms has been quite severe probably the worst wave of symptoms I have ever experienced and the last two days has been even worse than I have described before.

 

Saturday it was all I could do to make it through work without going to the hospital or literally losing my mind or passing out on the floor and by the time I hit my bed about 9:00pm I was checking my post dealing with my ex wife who I've been seeing for the last 3 months telling me she couldn't deal with what I'm going through and didn't want to see me anymore and the stress over that I guess I feel asleep with my phone still in my hand and woke up around 5:30am with my head literally screaming at me between the physical and emotional symptoms that I've previously described and I couldn't even hardly roll over to get out of the bed.

 

Yesterday was my daughter birthday on top of everything so I had to get up anyway and somehow push through for her and got her some cupcakes took her to lunch and the mall to jump street because that's the only thing she wanted for her birthday and then to see the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie last night but I literally felt miserable all day with all these symptoms and didn't now if I was gonna make it and even had to get up and leave the movie twice to walk for a min and calm down because it was so bad.

 

I woke up this morning still dealing with the aftermath of this weekend between the last two weeks of work my ex this weekend and everything else I can't begin to explain the torture in my brain right now and I'm wandering when this wave is ever gonna call down or if I'm gonna survive all this and ever get better?

 

The symptoms are actually getting worse the severe pressure pain numbness and physical symptoms in my head are so severe I can't hardly stand up or even function. I tried to laugh at the movie last night but when I did it was completely weird cause as soon as I started to laugh the pressure and pain in my head along with the emotional symptoms hit me and it scared me so bad I had to get up and walk out and when I came back all I could do is set upright on the seat and just hold my head and look at the floor.

 

Just being in that movie theatre or even at the mall earlier and watching all the normal people laughing having fun enjoying life and the couples holding hands and just being happy doing things together just made it worse and I'm wandering if I'll ever be happy ever again or if this is just my life from now on?

 

Again I'm not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone but this uptick or severe wave of symptoms has pushed me too the edge bothe physically and mentally to the point about all I can do is lay here in this bed and suffer physically and feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown mentally.

 

The head pressure numbness burning and physical pain in my brain, the nausea, light headed dizzy passing out feeling. The severe DP/DR confusion not being in reality anymore and wave of horrific racing thoughts and intrusive thoughts are really that bad and that severe and again I don't know if this is still benzo WD, Zoloft. Or a combination of both but this is horrible.

 

I missed my dose of Zoloft Saturday night because I feel asleep and I don't know what to do with that except hold because these symptoms are so severe but then I think about the Zoloft maybe cause some of these symptoms and that worries me too so I'm lost trying to hold on dealing with work and now my ex leaving me again feeling so alone with no hope and really trying to find any kind of reason to keep fighting and believing this will get better.

 

So again I'm sorry please don't be made at me everyone I just don't have anyone else to talk too know with the doctors being crazy not understanding and just wanting to put me on more drugs me ex someone who was saposed to and said she loved me basically telling me I'm crazy and this was to much for her which is the opinion of most my family except my mom I just feel so alone and without hope

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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I do appreciate and I am very thankful for all the help I have received here and I don't take it for granted and I am not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone I'm just honestly trying to hold on and survive especially after the last two weeks and this weekend has been nothing short or completely miserable and very scary.

This wave or major uptick in symptoms has been quite severe probably the worst wave of symptoms I have ever experienced and the last two days has been even worse than I have described before.

Saturday it was all I could do to make it through work without going to the hospital or literally losing my mind or passing out on the floor and by the time I hit my bed about 9:00pm I was checking my post dealing with my ex wife who I've been seeing for the last 3 months telling me she couldn't deal with what I'm going through and didn't want to see me anymore and the stress over that I guess I feel asleep with my phone still in my hand and woke up around 5:30am with my head literally screaming at me between the physical and emotional symptoms that I've previously described and I couldn't even hardly roll over to get out of the bed.

Yesterday was my daughter birthday on top of everything so I had to get up anyway and somehow push through for her and got her some cupcakes took her to lunch and the mall to jump street because that's the only thing she wanted for her birthday and then to see the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie last night but I literally felt miserable all day with all these symptoms and didn't now if I was gonna make it and even had to get up and leave the movie twice to walk for a min and calm down because it was so bad.

I woke up this morning still dealing with the aftermath of this weekend between the last two weeks of work my ex this weekend and everything else I can't begin to explain the torture in my brain right now and I'm wandering when this wave is ever gonna call down or if I'm gonna survive all this and ever get better?

The symptoms are actually getting worse the severe pressure pain numbness and physical symptoms in my head are so severe I can't hardly stand up or even function. I tried to laugh at the movie last night but when I did it was completely weird cause as soon as I started to laugh the pressure and pain in my head along with the emotional symptoms hit me and it scared me so bad I had to get up and walk out and when I came back all I could do is set upright on the seat and just hold my head and look at the floor.

Just being in that movie theatre or even at the mall earlier and watching all the normal people laughing having fun enjoying life and the couples holding hands and just being happy doing things together just made it worse and I'm wandering if I'll ever be happy ever again or if this is just my life from now on?

Again I'm not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone but this uptick or severe wave of symptoms has pushed me too the edge bothe physically and mentally to the point about all I can do is lay here in this bed and suffer physically and feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown mentally.

The head pressure numbness burning and physical pain in my brain, the nausea, light headed dizzy passing out feeling. The severe DP/DR confusion not being in reality anymore and wave of horrific racing thoughts and intrusive thoughts are really that bad and that severe and again I don't know if this is still benzo WD, Zoloft. Or a combination of both but this is horrible.

I missed my dose of Zoloft Saturday night because I feel asleep and I don't know what to do with that except hold because these symptoms are so severe but then I think about the Zoloft maybe cause some of these symptoms and that worries me too so I'm lost trying to hold on dealing with work and now my ex leaving me again feeling so alone with no hope and really trying to find any kind of reason to keep fighting and believing this will get better.

So again I'm sorry please don't be made at me everyone I just don't have anyone else to talk too know with the doctors being crazy not understanding and just wanting to put me on more drugs me ex someone who was saposed to and said she loved me basically telling me I'm crazy and this was to much for her which is the opinion of most my family except my mom I just feel so alone and without hope

I'm not a mod by any means, but you might ask one of them if you should updose a little, and then hold. I had the nausea for a year. I updosed, and held. I'm now feeling like I can taper just a little. I'm going to try on the 1st. But you have to get a grip, and take some deep breaths and realize that this is not fun. I have 2 ex's, one of the wives are accusing me of things I have no idea what she is talking about, and a child that hasn't talked to me for 8 years. I go to therapy, maybe you could try that. Do it on your lunch hour.

 

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time, but like I said, take some deep breaths and know you aren't the only one here.

 

I learned the hard way on this forum, and I'm just trying to help you, so mods and people will actually want to help you.

 

There is a free app called "Calm". It really helps. You might try that.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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I do appreciate and I am very thankful for all the help I have received here and I don't take it for granted and I am not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone I'm just honestly trying to hold on and survive especially after the last two weeks and this weekend has been nothing short or completely miserable and very scary.

 

This wave or major uptick in symptoms has been quite severe probably the worst wave of symptoms I have ever experienced and the last two days has been even worse than I have described before.

 

Saturday it was all I could do to make it through work without going to the hospital or literally losing my mind or passing out on the floor and by the time I hit my bed about 9:00pm I was checking my post dealing with my ex wife who I've been seeing for the last 3 months telling me she couldn't deal with what I'm going through and didn't want to see me anymore and the stress over that I guess I feel asleep with my phone still in my hand and woke up around 5:30am with my head literally screaming at me between the physical and emotional symptoms that I've previously described and I couldn't even hardly roll over to get out of the bed.

 

Yesterday was my daughter birthday on top of everything so I had to get up anyway and somehow push through for her and got her some cupcakes took her to lunch and the mall to jump street because that's the only thing she wanted for her birthday and then to see the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie last night but I literally felt miserable all day with all these symptoms and didn't now if I was gonna make it and even had to get up and leave the movie twice to walk for a min and calm down because it was so bad.

 

I woke up this morning still dealing with the aftermath of this weekend between the last two weeks of work my ex this weekend and everything else I can't begin to explain the torture in my brain right now and I'm wandering when this wave is ever gonna call down or if I'm gonna survive all this and ever get better?

 

The symptoms are actually getting worse the severe pressure pain numbness and physical symptoms in my head are so severe I can't hardly stand up or even function. I tried to laugh at the movie last night but when I did it was completely weird cause as soon as I started to laugh the pressure and pain in my head along with the emotional symptoms hit me and it scared me so bad I had to get up and walk out and when I came back all I could do is set upright on the seat and just hold my head and look at the floor.

 

Just being in that movie theatre or even at the mall earlier and watching all the normal people laughing having fun enjoying life and the couples holding hands and just being happy doing things together just made it worse and I'm wandering if I'll ever be happy ever again or if this is just my life from now on?

 

Again I'm not trying to upset anyone or annoy anyone but this uptick or severe wave of symptoms has pushed me too the edge bothe physically and mentally to the point about all I can do is lay here in this bed and suffer physically and feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown mentally.

 

The head pressure numbness burning and physical pain in my brain, the nausea, light headed dizzy passing out feeling. The severe DP/DR confusion not being in reality anymore and wave of horrific racing thoughts and intrusive thoughts are really that bad and that severe and again I don't know if this is still benzo WD, Zoloft. Or a combination of both but this is horrible.

 

I missed my dose of Zoloft Saturday night because I feel asleep and I don't know what to do with that except hold because these symptoms are so severe but then I think about the Zoloft maybe cause some of these symptoms and that worries me too so I'm lost trying to hold on dealing with work and now my ex leaving me again feeling so alone with no hope and really trying to find any kind of reason to keep fighting and believing this will get better.

 

So again I'm sorry please don't be made at me everyone I just don't have anyone else to talk too know with the doctors being crazy not understanding and just wanting to put me on more drugs me ex someone who was saposed to and said she loved me basically telling me I'm crazy and this was to much for her which is the opinion of most my family except my mom I just feel so alone and without hope

hi maize ,I'm so sorry what u dealing with ,I went to work today on an hours sleep ,I was extremely mindful of my thoughts and got through the day .please watch out for your mind taking over you ,the ruminating and anger ,please research ways to safely help with this ,have a look at the symptoms and self care .

as I write this I have panic and heaviness ripping through my chest .

I can totally relate to watching others around me and dream of not being in this torture ,we will win the war .

please be careful and take care ,don't let the world ruin your mind ,that's what I tell myself .

respect

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Hey Maize:

 

So what I'm saying in that case is before I was filling the bottle up and using or starting at the 100ml line on the bottle then withdrawing the 1 10ml syringe out before I took the dose but last night after I tested my measuring I found that basically after I used the syringe to measure into the sports bottle and then withdrew the 1.5 syringes so 15ml I ended up right at the 100ml line one the bottle with what was left so that means I basically took a whole 10ml syringe more last night than I normally take and that means I was talking before somewhere between 75-80mg nit 87.5mg as thought by my math.

 

We said that for your next taper - to change to a graduated cylinder.

 

Your sports bottle is not going to be accurate enough for future tapers.  But it has been consistent for now.  Do you understand the difference between consistency - the same dose every day, and accuracy - measured to an international standard?

 

Every time you handle the liquid, you increase inaccuracies.  10 draws on a syringe is 10 possible changes to consistency and accuracy.

 

I'm still a page behind, so I see that Chessie addressed this - I'm just driving it home.

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Hey Maize - 

 

I'm going to say what Alto said to Frogie.

 

Please stop.

 

Talking about your symptoms is only making you worse.  Please be considerate of your readers, as well.  

 

I would like to visit your thread more often, but I have to steel myself for your challenging writing.  I will no longer respond to your symptoms - you can re-read your thread if you want to find out what I think about your symptoms.  There are lists of symptoms (also linked in your thread), so far nothing you've described is out of the ordinary.

 

There is a well known principle in recovery called, "fake it till you make it."

 

I'm not suggesting that you come out all rainbows and roses - but consider - 

 

Here's a formula:  What are you grateful for today?

 

That your daughter had a birthday?  That you were able to take her to a movie? You survived another week of work (even though it was hard)?  You have a loving family?  You ate some good food?  You have fingers and toes?  You aren't in an overseas war?  There are myriads of things to be grateful for if you will just look for them.

 

Find something every day that you are grateful for and post it here.

 

Stop with the symptoms, start with the positives.  You will see a difference.

 

I know it is hard work, but you are a hard worker, you can do it.  We are not often rewarded in this world for inner work - but inner work has its own rewards.

 

I would hazard a guess that you will not get better while posting about your symptoms.

 

You might get better posting about your gratitude and positives.

 

Think about it.

 

I hope you see the sun today.

"Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna

 

Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again.

 

My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices.

 

A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia.   CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013.   Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine).     Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 -  Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years  on Lithium).  Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made.


The tedious thread (my intro):  JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium

The happy thread (my success story):  JanCarol - Undiagnosed  Off all bipolar drugs

My own blog:  https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/

 

 

I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016!

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Me carol I appreciate all the help I get here and I do not take for granted and of the advice you give but this wave or uptick in symptoms over the last two weeks has come out of no where and as bad as it was before it's 10x worse now and the physical symptoms the head pressure, burning, numbness in my head, extreme fatigue, very nauseous light headed and dizzy completely disoriented and spaces out losing all since of reality with severe DP/DR and this I can't control my thoughts and this mourning and today on top of the physical symptoms I woke up with nothing but pure racing and intrusive thoughts to the SU/HM degree and it's scaring me that not only thy physical symptoms have increased but the mental and emotional symptoms are this severe as well.

 

I just need to know and would ask is this a benzo wave or the Zoloft or a combination of the two cause this is crazy and if it's a wave how long will this last and be this severe?

 

I've been told that what I am experiencing is PAWS or a wall in my recovery that usually occurs within the 6-9 month range of recovery and can be very bad and it's not atypical to have a major increase in symptoms and their severity with or between that time frame so I'm wandering is that what this is and I've been told typicality it can last up to two weeks sometime longer then most of the time once it's over their is usually some relief and a mixture of good and bad days with some improvements after these kind of waves.

 

Is any of this true? Is that what I'm experiencing? I haven't changed the Zoloft and I've still been using the 100ml line on my sports bottle to measure for the past 10 or so weeks and was thinking as you know of dropping a little before this major uptick or wave of symptoms hit me.

 

So what do I do and is any of this normal cause I feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown and have almost gone to the hospital two or 3 times in the last couple of weeks and they don't seem to be letting up just getting worse

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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Do what JanCarol said and stop and think.

 

Remember I did this to these poor people.

 

Maybe if it's this bad, you should updose and stablize. I'm not a mod, so I don't know. But that's what they had me do. I felt really bad, like I was failing, but I felt better and I've been holding for quite a while.

 

I want to taper on the 1st, but I'm having my granddaughter for the weekend and the next weekend, my fiancé and I are going on a mini vacation. I might hold off on tapering until all of this is done.

 

It's not a walk in the park by any means, but you will survive.

 

Like she said think of all the good things in your life, not the bad things. I was exactly like you. Except, you are lucky. You have your family. I live 200 miles away from mine. I packed up from where I was born and raised, to move to a town of NOTHING, for my fiancé. Everyday of my life is not fun. I have no one but my fiancé. It's a very clickish town. No friends. Be thankful for what you have.

 

Leave a BRIEF message to a mod about updosing, and I bet you'll get help pretty soon.

 

Get a journal and use it. It helps me a lot. Only you can read what's in it. You can pour your heart out.

 

I'm not picking on you at all, you know that, I'm just trying to help you. You know you can PM anytime. :)

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Me carol I appreciate all the help I get here and I do not take for granted and of the advice you give but this wave or uptick in symptoms over the last two weeks has come out of no where and as bad as it was before it's 10x worse now and the physical symptoms the head pressure, burning, numbness in my head, extreme fatigue, very nauseous light headed and dizzy completely disoriented and spaces out losing all since of reality with severe DP/DR and this I can't control my thoughts and this mourning and today on top of the physical symptoms I woke up with nothing but pure racing and intrusive thoughts to the SU/HM degree and it's scaring me that not only thy physical symptoms have increased but the mental and emotional symptoms are this severe as well.

 

I just need to know and would ask is this a benzo wave or the Zoloft or a combination of the two cause this is crazy and if it's a wave how long will this last and be this severe?

 

I've been told that what I am experiencing is PAWS or a wall in my recovery that usually occurs within the 6-9 month range of recovery and can be very bad and it's not atypical to have a major increase in symptoms and their severity with or between that time frame so I'm wandering is that what this is and I've been told typicality it can last up to two weeks sometime longer then most of the time once it's over their is usually some relief and a mixture of good and bad days with some improvements after these kind of waves.

 

Is any of this true? Is that what I'm experiencing? I haven't changed the Zoloft and I've still been using the 100ml line on my sports bottle to measure for the past 10 or so weeks and was thinking as you know of dropping a little before this major uptick or wave of symptoms hit me.

 

So what do I do and is any of this normal cause I feel like I'm losing my mind and having a psychological breakdown and have almost gone to the hospital two or 3 times in the last couple of weeks and they don't seem to be letting up just getting worse

 

S T O P !

 

In your reply to JanCarol's post you say "I appreciate all the help I get here and I do not take for granted and of the advice you give but"

 

and then you go on to describe your symptoms again and then ask the same questions again.

 

G O    B A C K

 

And read JanCarol's post which you replied to.  And then read it again from beginning to end.

 

 

N O T E

 

what she has said:

 

  • Talking about your symptoms is only making you worse.
  • nothing you've described is out of the ordinary.

 

 

Find something every day that you are grateful for and post it here.

 

Stop with the symptoms, start with the positives.  You will see a difference.

 

  • you are a hard worker, you can do it.
  • I would hazard a guess that you will not get better while posting about your symptoms.

 

You might get better posting about your gratitude and positives.

* NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA *

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:  (6 year taper)      0mg Pristiq  on 13th November 2021

ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021   LAST DOSE 0.0025mg

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I know everyone maybe frustrated with me with posting of my symptoms but they really are that severe and the sudden change and uptick over the last 2 weeks has been the cause of my most recent posting not because I want to annoy anyone or I'm ignoring the advice given but they really are that severe and they have changed that much over the past two weeks and that's the thing I have not changed anything with the Zoloft at all I've been using the 100ml line on the sports bottle as suggested for over 2 1/2 months except for that one night when I was thinking about dropping before this major wave hit me 2 weeks ago.

 

So I am trying I went back to work 2 months ago, I try to get outside and and keep going determined not to let this beat me or stop me from at least trying to make the most out of this horrible situation. I've even been to the movies twice with my kids and tried to get out and do things with them over the past month including Sunday when my symptoms were so severe I couldn't hardly function stand up or even think straight at all so it's not like I'm not trying I've even been using the camp fire video that was given to me to try and help relax at night to sleep.

 

I don't have anyone here doctors included to talk to about this cause my family doesn't understand I mean even my ex broke it off with me again cause she couldn't handle my so called mental issues and just thinks I'm crazy and miserable all the time and she can't deal with that so she says so I feel so alone and I was coping ok and managing the best I could before the last two weeks when this change in symptoms slammed me out of no where and I'm trying to keep going but when I say the physical and emotional symptoms are as severe as they are I'm not trying to get on anyone's nerves or scare anyone I'm just trying to keep from having a full blown emotional breakdown on top of the physical pain and that's what I feel like I'm having.

 

So please don't be mad at me or give up on me cause I'm trying and it's hard cause I'm losing hope and I still don't understand what's causing this whether it's a massive benzo wave or the Zoloft turning on me or a combination of both but this is crazy and I'm holding on by a tread.

 

I feel like I'm losing all since of reality, and myself and who I once was. I have no control over my mind or my thoughts and my mind is just in a state of confusion and chaos in a dark place with all these crazy thoughts and it feels so real like I might actually act out on them and it is scaring me. So that's why I come here and post cause it is that bad and I just don't know what to do?

 

I still have the question about the PAWS or the Wall/Wave with benzo WD between 6-9 months before maybe seeing some windows but I was told it typically last up to two weeks and they can be as bad as mine have been but it's been 15 days since this started and it's not getting any better or letting up.

 

Also on the Zoloft it seems I'm not stable enough right now to drop again that's why I haven't but the question there is what if the Zoloft is causing some of this and making me worse what do you do there? I feel like I'm in a no win situation and I'm just trying to figure out where to go from here?

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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You asked if it's benzodiazepines or Zoloft or both. I would guess both. But there is no way to find out for sure, not by us not by doctors not by anybody. There is no way to prove which one is causing what Exactly.

 

I don't know what you should do about Zoloft as I am on phone and if doesn't show your signature, so I don't know your doses etc. maybe someone else who has more experience in that area can hopefully offer some suggestions for you.

200 Zoloft; 10 mg Zyprexa; 4 mg valium as of May 2021;  Valium taper: July 16: 3.5 valium; July 30: 3 mg (paused valium taper); Aug. 23: 2.5 mg
Zyprexa: July 26: 8.75 mg; Aug. 9: 7.5 mg; Aug. 30: 7.1 mg

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Dec 1, 2016. 10 mg zyprexa for 1.5 month. Started taper mid-Jan. 2017. Cut 1.25 mg every 2 weeks; smaller cuts 2.5 mg down. Stopped at .6 mg. May 7, 2017: zyprexa free. 
Zoloft: Dec1, 2016, 200 mg. Started taper: Jun12, 2017: 197.5 mg; Jun19,:195 mg; July 2:185mg; July 9,:180 mg; July16,: 175; July 23: 170; July 30: 165; Aug6: 160; Aug13: 155; Aug. 20: 150; Aug.27: 146 mg; Sept3: 145 mg; Sept10:143 mg; Sept17:140 mg....Nov5: 122 mg...Dec3:112.5 mg; Jan14, 2018: 95 mg...Jan28: 90 mg; Feb21:80 mg; Mar11: 75 mg; May2:70 mg; May15: 68 mg; May28: 65 mg; Jun9: 62 mg;Jun25: 60 mg:July22: 55 mg; Aug25: 45 mg. Aug28: 50 mg...Oct 28: 38 mg; Dec.4: 30 mg; Jan8,2019: 25mg; Feb6: 23.5 mg; Apr1:17.5mg; May1:1 mg; May 5: 18;  May 18:15mg; June 16:12.5mg; Sept 10:11 mg; Sept.16:10 mg; Oct. 1: 9mg; Nov. 27: 8mg; Dec.5: 7mg; Jan.1,2020, 6 mg; Feb1: 5 mg; May 1: 2.5 mg; Jn 1: 2 mg; Jy 1: 1.5 mg

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You were doing better on the same dose of the drug. No need to change the dose.

 

You were doing better until doing this stressful and demanding job took its toll. What happened with the idea of looking for a less demanding job?

 

You didn't make any effort to understand what we are talking about coping skills and numerous non drug methods for soothing the brain you were described.

 

Playing video games on your phone is NOT a relaxation for a WD brain. Electronics and visuals can make it even more symptomatic. Going to cinema is also not relaxing for a WD brain.

 

You seem you are still not up against the wall enough to consider tweaking your life stlye. We don't do meditation, yoga poses, breathing exercises, etc. because we are a group of new age hippies but in order to survive WD.

 

Have you visited threads of other people?

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Maize, the solution for all of your problems is INSIDE YOU.

 

You need to look to yourself to get better and feel better.

 

No one can do that for you.

 

if what you are doing isn't working then STOP DOING IT.

 

try something else, including things that you may think are stupid or that won't work.

 

 

when things are really bad, you will realize this.

I have to assume, as bubble said, that things are just not that desperate for you yet.

 

  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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I find this talk helpful about what we focus on and I totally understand about the misery but the channel has to be changed .

Respect

PB

Alcohol free since February 2015 

1MG diazepam

4.5MG PROZAC.

 

 

 

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Well it is that miserable and desperate that's why I'm reaching out here cause no one on the ground understands or can help me.

 

The doctors just want to put me on more drugs and my family doesn't understand and looks at me like I'm crazy except for my momma she try's to understand and at least listens to what I'm going through but she doesn't know what to do and I thought I had someone who cared about me in my ex wife and I didn't even really discuss this with her in detail for the first month or so of us talking again but as soon as I did and really opened up about it now she's gone again too so I really am all alone in this.

 

I haven't changed the Zoloft and I'm gonna try and remeasure where I'm at with the 100ml line on my bottle with the 10ml syringe to get more accurate and hopefully figure out what I need to do from here when hopefully these symptoms wave or uptick calms down cause I don't feel like I'm stable enough now to drop or add to this at the moment and as far as the graduated cylinder I don't know where to get one what it looks like or even what it is and with my brain being in utter chaos right now I can't think.

 

As far as my job I am looking for something else but I can't just quit until I find another one but I am actively looking as we speak.

 

So again I am that desperate especially after 7 months to be hit this hard and in this way desperate is and understatement and that's why I know everyone gets frustrated with me when I post but I'm honestly scared and I don't get much help or advice anywhere else and y'all are all I've got when it comes to understanding and trying to survive this so please don't be mad at me I'm just trying to survive and want my life and brain back.

 

So my questions are now knowing I haven't changed much with the Zoloft in over 2 months and knowing the symptoms were bad but I was coping ok up till a little over 2 weeks ago and then just got slammed with a severe massive wave or uptick in the emotional and physical symptoms and it's not letting up. Not knowing if this is the 6-9 months wall of benzo WD ADDED TO WHATEVER THE Zoloft IS DOING or what is at the root of this massive wave. Hearing that these kinda of waves can hit around this time frame of the recovery process and can last 2 weeks or more but do get better and then more healing comes really struggling with the Zoloft issue cause of this drug is causing some of this the longer I take it the worse the effects and WD is but also knowing I've been taking it so long 7 months and these symptoms are so severe lately I just feel stuck with it right now so I'm at a loss and really having a very difficult time at the moment and again desperate is and understatement cause with the emotional symptoms being so severe on top of the physical symptoms it's very scary and hard to function feel like I'm losing all since of myself and reality and everyone's answer here is go to the hospital and let them put you in more drugs when these drugs are what have made me sick so I'm desperate for sure and that's why I'm here on this site so please don't be made at me I'm trying

2012: Zoloft and Xanax for the first few weeks for panics attacks 2013: switched over to Prozac and Ativan for a short period during the switch. 2015: got off Prozac: 2016 tried to reinstate after 7 months off symptoms came back didn't work so switched over to lexapro and after 6 1/2 weeks got off not able to tolerate. Xanax since may of 2016, then Detox October 2016 from .75mg and was put on resperdal and Zoloft but now just on Zoloft 100mg. Severe head pressure, DP/DR, confusion, intrusive thoughts main symptoms since coming out of the hospital. Losing hope 2 1/2 months off Xanax and now on 100mg Zoloft

 

Update on Zoloft started to taper on Feb, 4th 2017 using dry cut method at 87.5mg from 100 then Feb, 25th 2017 switched to liquid taper with dissolving 100mg tablets into 100ml of water then , measuring out to 87.5mg where i am at now. will be due for 2nd cut Sunday April, 2 2017 will update again at that time

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I find this talk helpful about what we focus on and I totally understand about the misery but the channel has to be changed .

Respect

PB

 

oh excellent post PB

mind if i save this?

 

  • pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) 
  •  Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years
  • started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 
  •  2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs
  •  June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until  Sept, then acute WD hit!!  reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106
  • Tapered off to zero by  Oct. 2017 Doing very well. 
  • Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 
  • Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content
  • Dec 2023 Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs ;) 
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