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I feel I should go to the dentist as I think I have some cavities. But I am so much afraid of this local anesthetic that it will make my intrusive thoughts worse. Without anesthetic it pains too much so this is not the way too. I can not avoid the dentist forever because if something goes wrong the people can get even the blood poisoning. How is it, can this local anesthetic make intrusive thoughts worse?

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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Sharing my experience of having a tooth done with local anaesthetics and there was no reaction. 

  • 2,5 years of slowly tapering down Cymbalta from 60 mg. Then tried going from 8,44 mg to 1 mg in 8 days. (April 1st 2015). That's when the real hell started. Reinstated. Didn't help. I was added Ativan (2 mg 2 times a day for relentless akathisia that started with jumping Cymbalta). For years had been taking Zopitin 7,5 mg and Stilnox 10 mg for I had not been able to sleep naturally since the 1st day I started Cymbalta). Used to take Xanax occasionally.
  • All of the above were stopped cold turkey when I was hospitalized in the beginning of May 2015.
  • Prior to that I have been on and off the whole spectrum of different AD-s for 15 years (since I was 17).

My introduction.

 

Tapering:

  • Olanzapine (starting point 2,1 mg): Jan 2016  /---/ April 2018 0 mg. (From 2,1 mg to 0 mg in 1y 3mo).
  • Diazepam (starting at 5 mg) : switching to liquid May 2018;  4,6 mg (June 2018) /---/ 0 mg (Feb 2020) (From 10 to 5 - nobody knows, from 5 to 0 in 1 y 10 mo)
  • Valdoxan (starting at 25 mg): switching to liquid (Feb 2019) /---/ 0 mg (July 2020)

 

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Some local anesthesia has epinephrine in it.  Epinephrine in higher doses is what they inject into people who are having an anaphylactic reactions.  It is adrenaline. Even in the small amounts used in local anesthesia, I can't handle it.  It makes me shake and feel uncomfortable.

 

Your adrenal glands are part of your hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal (HPA) axis.  They produce cortisol (that the body needs for normal cellular activity) and adrenaline (for you flight or fight response).  The interactions among these organs (hypothalamus, pituitary gland and adrenal glands) constitute the HPA axis, a major part of the neuroendocrine system that controls reactions to stress and regulates many body processes, including digestion, the immune system, mood and emotions, sexuality, and energy storage and expenditure.

 

If the local used includes epinephine that might be why it could make intrusive thoughts worse.  That is why I made sure to hold my wean long enough to feel stable.  You can also have the conversation with your dentist that you are highly sensitive to medications and ask for something that does not contain epinephrine.  Carbocaine may be an acceptable alternative.

 

What I have learned is dental health is important to overall health.  Don't ignore your dental health out of fear.  Take control, explain your situation and hold your health care professional accountable for helping you through the process.

 

Karma

2007 @ 375 mg Effexor - 11/29/2011 - 43.75 mg Effexor (regular) & .625 mg Xanax

200 mg Gabapentin 2/27/21 - 194.5 mg, 5/28/21 - 183 mg, 8/2/21 - 170 mg, 11/28/21 - 150 mg, 4/19/22 - 122 mg; 8//7/22 - 100 mg; 12/17 - 75mg; 8/17 - 45 mg; 10/16 40 mg
Xanax taper: 3/11/12 - 0.9375 mg, 3/25/12 - 0.875 mg, 4/6/12 - 0.8125 mg, 4/18/12 - 0.75 ; 10/16 40mg;

1/16 0.6875 mg; at some point 0.625 mg
Effexor taper: 1/29/12 - 40.625 mg, 4/29/12 - 39.875 mg, 5/11/12 - Switched to liquid Effexor, 5/25/12 - 38 mg, 7/6/12 - 35 mg, 8/17/12 - 32 mg, 9/14/12 - 30 mg, 10/19/12 - 28 mg, 11/9/12 - 26 mg, 11/30/12 - 24 mg, 01/14/13 - 22 mg. 02/25/13 - 20.8 mg, 03/18/13 - 19.2 mg, 4/15/13 - 17.6 mg, 8/10/13 - 16.4 mg, 9/7/13 - 15.2 mg, 10/19/13 - 14 mg, 1/15/14 - 13.2 mg, 3/1/2014 - 12.6 mg, 5/4/14 - 12 mg, 8/1/14 - 11.4 mg, 8/29/14 - 10.8 mg; 10/14/14 - 10.2 mg; 12/15/14 - 10 mg, 1/11/15 - 9.5 mg, 2/8/15 - 9 mg, 3/21/15 - 8.5 mg, 5/1/15 - 8 mg, 6/9/15 - 7.5 mg, 7/8/15 - 7 mg, 8/22/15 - 6.5 mg, 10/4/15 - 6 mg; 1/1/16 - 5.6 mg; 2/6/16 - 5.2 mg; 4/9 - 4.8 mg; 7/7 4.5 mg; 10/7 4.25 mg; 11/4 4.0 mg; 11/25 3.8 mg; 4/24 3.6 mg; 5/27 3.4 mg; 7/8 3.2 mg ... 10/18 2.8 mg; 1/18 2.6 mg; 4/7 2.4 mg; 5/26 2.15mg; 8/18 1.85 mg; 10/7 1.7 mg; 12/1 1.45 mg; 3/2 1.2 mg; 5/4 0.90 mg; 6/1 0.80 mg; 6/22 0.65 mg; 08/03 0.50 mg, 08/10 0.45 mg, 10/05 0.325 mg, 11/23 0.2 mg, 12/14 0.15 mg, 12/21 0.125 mg, 02/28 0.03125 mg, 2/15 0.015625 mg, 2/29/20 0.00 mg - OFF Effexor


I am not a medical professional - this is not medical advice. My suggestions are based on personal experience, reading, observation and anecdotal information posted by other sufferers

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As one who waited way too long to see a dentist and will be having tooth implants as a result of my actions, don't put off seeing a dentist due to fear.   Please follow Karma's advice so you don't end up in a similar position to mine.

 

CS

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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Hi,

 

My filling came out yesterday and I'm very reluctant to go to the dentist, not because of the Procedure itself as I've had many before but the fear of yet another drug interaction. I know I probably sound paranoid but I'm finding now I'm sensitive to everything. I'm thinking that the cavity is to deep for no drugs. I do suspect that I may have a slight reaction to the needle drug, because every time I get it, I get this rush of adrenaline and my heart beats fast. I think there are alternative drugs. Has anyone had a filling without drugs?

[*]At 15 years was put on 50mg of Zoloft for generalized anxiety and panic disorder.

[*]2006 Tried to withdrawal from 50mg . Doctor told me I would have no trouble. I tampered over about a month (50mg-0) which left me with severe and debilitating withdrawal symptoms. Doctors put my dose up to 75mg mistaking my withdrawal symptoms as a relapse. Stayed on Zoloft 75mg since 2006.

March 2015- adverse reaction between Zoloft (75mg) an antibiotic and anti nausea drug resulting in debilitating symptoms/recovery identical to withdrawal. Have not altered or changed dose since 2006.

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I have, but it was a small filling with minimal drilling.

2005 St John's Wort / 2006-2012 Lexapro 20mg, 2 failed attempts to stop, tapered over 4.5 months in early 2012

January 2013 started Sertraline, over time worked up to 100mg

July 2014 Sertraline dropped from 100mg to 75mg, held for six months, slower tapering until 2019 22 Dec 3.2mg

2020 Sertraline 19 Jan 3.1mg, 26 Jan 3.0mg; 1 Mar 2.9, 7 Mar 2.8, May (some drops here) 24 May 2.5, May 29 2.4, June 21 2.3, June 28 2.2mg,  July 4 2.1mg, July 24 (or maybe a bit before) 2mg, early Nov switched to home made suspension; 29 Nov 1.8mg; approx 25 Dec 1.6mg)

2021 Some time in about Jan/Feb realised probably on more like 1.8mg and poss mixing error in making suspension; doses after 10 Feb accurate; 10 Feb 1.6mg; 7 Mar 1.4, continued monthly

10% drops until 1mg, then dropped 0.1mg monthly.

May 2022,0.1mg, now dropping 0.01mg per week

29 August 2022 - first day of zero!

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My last fillings were with the nerve block(needle) and lidocaine.  It worked out fine.  I wasn't anxious before or after.   I usually also bring my ear buds and music.

I actually felt better for several days.

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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Basically I'll just have to talk to the dentist when I go. Only the dentist is going to know if it's possible to have one without a needle by examining the cavity. Like someone has said, there may only be a slight risk and leaving it is only going to cause me more trouble. Thanks

[*]At 15 years was put on 50mg of Zoloft for generalized anxiety and panic disorder.

[*]2006 Tried to withdrawal from 50mg . Doctor told me I would have no trouble. I tampered over about a month (50mg-0) which left me with severe and debilitating withdrawal symptoms. Doctors put my dose up to 75mg mistaking my withdrawal symptoms as a relapse. Stayed on Zoloft 75mg since 2006.

March 2015- adverse reaction between Zoloft (75mg) an antibiotic and anti nausea drug resulting in debilitating symptoms/recovery identical to withdrawal. Have not altered or changed dose since 2006.

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I have had both a root channel and full deep cleaning in the last year and have had no problem with the drugs they use.  When I was a child I can remember having nine or ten fillings done without Novocain. It left me with a hatred for dentists that too decades to get over and a hatred for my parents for making it happen,which I still haven't gotten over and their long gone.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Final Dose 0.016mg.     Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

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Hi,

 

My filling came out yesterday and I'm very reluctant to go to the dentist, not because of the Procedure itself as I've had many before but the fear of yet another drug interaction. I know I probably sound paranoid but I'm finding now I'm sensitive to everything. I'm thinking that the cavity is to deep for no drugs. I do suspect that I may have a slight reaction to the needle drug, because every time I get it, I get this rush of adrenaline and my heart beats fast. I think there are alternative drugs. Has anyone had a filling without drugs?

It sounds like you have the same problem as I do which is not being able to tolerate epinephrine.   Yes, there are definitely alternatives.   Just tell the dentist and it shouldn't be any problem.

 

CS

Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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So got my filling done.... No way I was going to get out of it without any drug as its boredline needing a root canal. I asked for the non adrenaline drug and didn't get that horrible feeling where I felt shaky and heart racing. Last time I still felt the affects when I got home, but not this time, so that's good to know. I just had to get more injections of the different drug half way through the procedure because it's not as strong as the other.

Thanks

[*]At 15 years was put on 50mg of Zoloft for generalized anxiety and panic disorder.

[*]2006 Tried to withdrawal from 50mg . Doctor told me I would have no trouble. I tampered over about a month (50mg-0) which left me with severe and debilitating withdrawal symptoms. Doctors put my dose up to 75mg mistaking my withdrawal symptoms as a relapse. Stayed on Zoloft 75mg since 2006.

March 2015- adverse reaction between Zoloft (75mg) an antibiotic and anti nausea drug resulting in debilitating symptoms/recovery identical to withdrawal. Have not altered or changed dose since 2006.

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I will try to get a filling without drugs. I have not been at the dentist yet even when I wanted to go in december. But it does not hurt and I am not yet sure if I am stabilized enough that eventual anestetic if necessary would not set me back.

05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free-

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Has anyone experienced worsening of anhedonia after local anesthesia? I have. 

Citalopram 40mg from 2003-2015

Jan 2015 started tapering first dropped to 35mgFeb 30mg, March 25mgApril 20mg, May 17,5mg, June 15mgJuly 12,5mg, Aug 12,5mg,

Sep 0mg for 5 days because of stomac flu and after I raised to 7,5mg. All the symptoms of acute WD shaking, diarrhea, vomiting, barely could walk ect. Still didn't realize that it wasn't only stomac flu but I was also going through WD.

Oct 2,5mg and crashed again badly and quickly raised to 4mg. It was then when I knew my symptoms were due to WD.

Then in November after a month holding on 4mg raised to 5mg due to muscle weakness and had a VERY BAD reaction to reinstatement: akathisia(lasted for one or two weeks), insomnia, anhedonia... Drop quicly back to 4mg, Dec 3mg

Jan 2016 2,6mg( in the middle of Jan after I had been on 2,6mg for a week I tried to updose to 2,8mg and immediately had bad reaction to it: akathisia for a day, andehonia got worse. The next day dropped back to 2,6mg), Feb 2,4mg( a new symptom PGAD lasted 24/7 for 2 months after that on and off), March 2,4mg, April 2,3mg, May 2,2mg, June 2,1mg, July 2,0mg( Pgad almost nonexisting, sleeping pretty good, still some anhedonia but there has been a lot of gradual progress), Aug 1,97mg-1,89mg, Sep 1,88mg-1,49mg, Oct 1,48mg- 1,70mg,

Nov 0,65mg- current dose 0,5mg

 

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Has anyone experienced accelerated tooth decay while on meds? I'm finding myself visiting the dentist every few months ever since I was put on the combination of Olanzapine, Valdoxan and Diazepam and every time there is lots of work to be done. Before that I didn't have a reason to visit the dentist for years. For the first time in my life I also found tartar on my teeth.

I tend to be suspicious of Olanzapine, but of course I cannot rule out the others. 

 

I am just wondering if anyone else has had that problem.

  • 2,5 years of slowly tapering down Cymbalta from 60 mg. Then tried going from 8,44 mg to 1 mg in 8 days. (April 1st 2015). That's when the real hell started. Reinstated. Didn't help. I was added Ativan (2 mg 2 times a day for relentless akathisia that started with jumping Cymbalta). For years had been taking Zopitin 7,5 mg and Stilnox 10 mg for I had not been able to sleep naturally since the 1st day I started Cymbalta). Used to take Xanax occasionally.
  • All of the above were stopped cold turkey when I was hospitalized in the beginning of May 2015.
  • Prior to that I have been on and off the whole spectrum of different AD-s for 15 years (since I was 17).

My introduction.

 

Tapering:

  • Olanzapine (starting point 2,1 mg): Jan 2016  /---/ April 2018 0 mg. (From 2,1 mg to 0 mg in 1y 3mo).
  • Diazepam (starting at 5 mg) : switching to liquid May 2018;  4,6 mg (June 2018) /---/ 0 mg (Feb 2020) (From 10 to 5 - nobody knows, from 5 to 0 in 1 y 10 mo)
  • Valdoxan (starting at 25 mg): switching to liquid (Feb 2019) /---/ 0 mg (July 2020)

 

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Hi Alto, and everyone,  could you add a topic here about   checking your teeth.           I have found my major health problem, causing all this.              I had a root canal done 25 years ago, and all my problems, including chronic ear infection, ear operation, depression, exhaustion,       started about 2 years after that.

 

Had to go to three dentists, and demand!  before they finally dug around, and down went his little pic, side of tooth,  into YUCK. All this yuck has been leaking from that dead bacteria farm, ie root canal tooth for over 20 years.   I had the cultures from my present ear infection, and yes the bacteria in my ear, are common infections found in infected root canal teeth.  Left side of my face a few months back  at crisis point, was full of itchy dry scabs,  all same side as the tooth.  Xrays do not show a rotten tooth, as the tooth is totally dead, root canal means all the living blood, tissue, pulp is removed, and you are left with a dead thing in your mouth.  

 

Seems root canals, are the same sort of  ""political""      medical science.        They go so overboard  (even the one who finally is going to pull the damn thing out) to say how wonderful root canals are, they are like a pre recorded record.  They ALL give the same spiel,  root canals are wonderful, you have had it 25 years, thats a success,   dont read stuff on the internet.           Then that dentist, admitted, the tooth was infected, and the ""muck"' was leaking out of it, around the back of the tooth, he his a gusher!  YUCK.     I will not elaborate, dont want to put you off christmas dinner!

 

Have a great one everybody,  after 2 years of chronic fatigue, getting off those antidepressants, was the best thiing I ever did, all they do is mask a problem, until the body completely breaks down.

 

I reckon my immune system is strong, it has done a pretty decent job, fighting the bacteria from this infection powerhouse  (dead tooth) for over 20 years.           It said enough is enough about 6 weeks ago.   My Natural Killer cells are double what they should be.                  Yep,  this staph, does enter cells, and the ONLY cells that can kill our own cells are natural killer cells.                     On ordinary blood tests, all looks fine.   But when best quality testing is done, my Killer Cells are double............ the upper limit.        

 

Also MTHFR,   when my immune system began packing up completely, I had little B12.                Again, blood tests show levels of B vitamins are fine, but a BETTER test done, called homocysteine, showed something very wrong.   With the MTHFR,   the wrong B12, and folic acid  (sysnthetic crap in our food),  is not used.    Can not be used with my genetics, so it clogs ups everything,  and I then can not use real folate in food.        B12 tablets were also useless.  I had one B12 shot of the right form of B12,  and it got me out of bed,  moving, and calmed my whacked out brain.        

 

Wow,  lets hope, my 2017 will be so much better than the last few years.          

1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression.  Serotonin syndrome, oh yes!  seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol.

Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly)  pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby).  98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.
2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout....  Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol,   and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.
Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg  seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg  tegretol 400mg.  Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.
Mid 15 ....   75mg  seroquel,  3 x 1800mg SJW  2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave
5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x  SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW
15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::   28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::;  18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump.

23/9  3mg.....,  27/9 0mg.  Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg.............  LIGHTBULB MOMENT,  I have  MTHFR 2x mutations.  CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it.

Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues.

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Since taking Abilify, I have noticed that my teeth have become discolored.  Has anyone else had this side effect?  Is the only remedy to switch anti-psychotic?

History:- 1993: - prescribed Prozac - soon started having momentary episodes of psychosis - 1994: psychotic breakdown  - prescribed high doses of antipsychotics including Depixol, Chlorpromazine (with procyclidine to control pacing) and later prescribed olanzapine, haloperidol, risperidone with different antidepressants (relapsed or crashed each time I tried to reduce or withdraw from meds).  Can't recall all combinations of drugs have been on.   2007: amisulpride 400mg & venlafaxine 75mg    2013: Got down to 150mg amisulpride, but hospitalised with v.bad psychosis after dropping to this dose and coerced into taking 600mg (always hit problems when dropping below 200mg)  2014: reduced and then problematic symptoms of psychosis, mid-Dec - back up to 200mg,

Feb 2015 had reduced to 180.5mg crashed badly and suddenly and hospitalised : prescribed 300mg amisulpride, 10 mg aripripazole, 50 mg sertraline.  Gradually reduced to 60.75mg amisulpride and 10mg abilify only by Dec 2016.  shortly after 30/1/17 two days paranoia, held and stabilised.  made 2.5% reductions in amisulpride to get to 50mg amisulpride plus 10mg abilify.  Held for long period of time to let CNS stabilise as unable to tolerate any more reductions (from Aug 2017)   April 2018 40mg amisulpride and 10mg abilify.

 

Current Meds: 17.6mg amisulpride, 10mg abilify plus 2000mg metformin for type II diabetes

 

 

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antipsychotics, along with many other psychotropics and other drugs, are known to cause tooth discoloration in some patients.  the exact reasons are not always clear, but the reduction of saliva and alteration of our microbiome that such drugs often precipitate are among the factors which can lead to a bodily environment facilitating discoloration problems.  in both usage and withdrawal, antipsychotics have dullened my teeth, no matter how hard i work to take care of them.  it is reversible in at least some of the cases, and i have had phases where the discoloration lifted significantly (only to return later with the onset of cycling withdrawal symptoms).

 

switching to a different antipsychotic may or may not help you.  they have different binding profiles but are more similar than dissimilar.  you should consult with a highly experienced mouth-knowledgeable prescriber or a dental specialist for diagnosis, options, and recommendations.  in some cases, things like drinking water several times a day, changing the time of day you take your drug, and other measures may have an impact on the severity of your discoloration, but some types of discoloration are not going to be manageable if the drug is still present.  indeed, some are long-term problems regardless, though one cannot assume your own situation based on what you have shared.

 

also keep in mind that switching doses or drugs comes with its own set of risks, and those risks are possibly heightened if you are already in the middle of tapering other drugs.  plus, as mentioned, tapering off the drug or cocktail which has led to discoloration may not have an immediately positive effect, and any persistent, cycling, or withdrawal-related symptoms might involve discoloration problems--especially if actively taking the drug created them for you.

from 2005-2012, i spent 7 years taking 17 different psychotropic medications covering several classes.  i would be taking 3-7 medications at a time, and 6 out of the 17 medications listed below were maxed or overmaxed in clinical dosage before i moved on to trying the next unhelpful cocktail.
 
antidepressants (SSRIs, SNRIs, NDRIs, tetracyclics): zoloft, wellbutrin, effexor, lexapro, prozac, cymbalta, remeron
antipsychotics (atypical): abilify, zyprexa, risperdal, geodon
sleep aids (benzos, off-label antidepressants & antipsychotics, hypnotics): seroquel, temazepam, trazodone, ambien
anxiolytics: buspar
anticonvulsants: topamax
 
i tapered off all psychotropics from late 2011 through early 2013, one by one.  since quitting, ive been cycling through severe, disabling withdrawal symptoms spanning the gamut of the serious, less serious, and rather worrisome side effects of these assorted medications.  previous cross-tapering and medication or dosage changes had also caused undiagnosed withdrawal symptoms.
 
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InvisibleUnless: thanks for your reply.  I have had a dry mouth for a while now, especially at night - which I believe is linked to the diabetes I got.  This is so frustrating.

 

 I just wish that there were a quicker way to get off these toxic drugs.   

History:- 1993: - prescribed Prozac - soon started having momentary episodes of psychosis - 1994: psychotic breakdown  - prescribed high doses of antipsychotics including Depixol, Chlorpromazine (with procyclidine to control pacing) and later prescribed olanzapine, haloperidol, risperidone with different antidepressants (relapsed or crashed each time I tried to reduce or withdraw from meds).  Can't recall all combinations of drugs have been on.   2007: amisulpride 400mg & venlafaxine 75mg    2013: Got down to 150mg amisulpride, but hospitalised with v.bad psychosis after dropping to this dose and coerced into taking 600mg (always hit problems when dropping below 200mg)  2014: reduced and then problematic symptoms of psychosis, mid-Dec - back up to 200mg,

Feb 2015 had reduced to 180.5mg crashed badly and suddenly and hospitalised : prescribed 300mg amisulpride, 10 mg aripripazole, 50 mg sertraline.  Gradually reduced to 60.75mg amisulpride and 10mg abilify only by Dec 2016.  shortly after 30/1/17 two days paranoia, held and stabilised.  made 2.5% reductions in amisulpride to get to 50mg amisulpride plus 10mg abilify.  Held for long period of time to let CNS stabilise as unable to tolerate any more reductions (from Aug 2017)   April 2018 40mg amisulpride and 10mg abilify.

 

Current Meds: 17.6mg amisulpride, 10mg abilify plus 2000mg metformin for type II diabetes

 

 

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Hi all,

I have a wisdom tooth that is showing and possibly needs to come out. Its infected as well. It is not painful just having some discharge. I go to the dentist tomorrow to get it looked at and am quite scared. I am not even sure how to explain to him my situation. I have been having a terrible time lately with panic/depression/scary thoughts etc... and do not want to get any worse. I would appreciate any information on anesthetics, pain meds and antibiotics during withdrawal. I have read a lot that we are supposed to especially avoid antibiotics, how come?

 

I am so scared I could cry. I've never even had a cavity before. Any words of encouragement?

2011-2014: 25-50mg Zoloft then CT via doctors advice. Some mild physical sx but fully functioning, unaware that withdrawal was a thing. Dr didn’t know why I was chronically dizzy with brain fog & advised to try Zoloft again.

2016: severe adverse reactions to Zoloft (1 dose), Paxil (3 weeks), celexa (2 weeks), buspar (1 dose), lamictal (4 doses). Ativan 12 times within a month. Also tried Xanax & klonopin a couple times. Each reaction became more severe. Kindled. Became disabled from these meds.

Drug free 12-16-2016
Month 1-20: +5% healing every month
Month 21- present: setback to acute from amoxicillin antibiotic (1 dose)
Month 32- 11 months into setback from antibiotic. Seems I was floxed by amoxicillin somehow. Horrific.

 

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Hello waiting, normally people react vwry well on local anestethics without epinephrine (for example carbocaine, mepivacaine), but I personally tried it and it triggered a wave, basicly I had problems for one month. Therefore some people are alergic against anything in withdrawal. But if you cant do anything other, you just have to try. There are also doctors offering alternative ways like hypnose, but I never tried it myself. I have myself now problem with one wisdom tooth but after last experience I am waiting till it starts to hurt.

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There seems to be intrinsic problems with dentistry and W/D  - one being the anesthesia and the other  - the mercury etc. ( cancer causing) elements.

 

Take care and don't use fluoride. Look to herbal toothpastes if you can. 

Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014

 

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Hello Waiting12,

 

My 22 year old son, in 4th year of protracted withdrawal from prozac and 3 antipsychotics, just had his wisdom teeth out 3 weeks ago. We had postponed as long as possible, but they had to go. Like you, we were very anxious about how he would respond to the medications. Using a local anesthetic only was not an option for him because he, like you, has panic attacks, and had one not long ago in the dentist's chair. He clearly needed to be sedated.

 

I had a chance to speak to the nurse anesthetist at length before his surgery. She was very understanding about his situation and his hypersensitivity to any kind of drug. We agreed that she would give him Propofol and lydocaine for the surgery. This went really well for him - he has no recollection of the procedure, and he had no ill effects from the sedative.

 

For pain management after surgery, she prescribed 800 mg ibuprofen, and also sent him home with oxycodone/acetaminophen, which we agreed he would only take if the pain was horrible. The first night he agreed to take 1/2 tablet of the oxycodone, but interestingly, it had absolutely no effect on him. After about an hour and a half, he took the other half tab...still no effect. So he just stuck with the ibuprofen and non-stop ice packs to manage his pain.

 

He was also prescribed penicillin to prevent infection. I was very concerned about this as well, because we have spent over 3 years working on his digestive system to minimize bad bacteria and yeast, and to boost his good bacteria. Improving his gut has been his path to treating the condition for which he was originally put on psychiatric medication, so this was super important. But I didn't want him to have to deal with an infection, so we went ahead with it. Fortunately, yogurt is one of the things one can eat following oral surgery, and he ate lots of it! After about a week, he was able to start on his probiotics again.

 

I can honestly tell you that he has experienced no set-back from either the sedation or the antibiotic. He has been very tired, but another friend whose son went through extraction recently was just the same. He has continued to go through the same kinds of waves and windows he'd been having before surgery. He and I are both very relieved to have it all behind us.

 

Of course everyone's situation is unique, but if the dentist tells you the tooth needs to go, just make sure she/he is aware of your hypersensitivities. If the doctor you go to isn't licensed to administer propofol (some of them aren't - the first dentist we met uses benzos), you might want to work with someone who is.

 

Best wishes to you, and let us know how it goes.

Siskin

 

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2001-2006 Paxil 40g

5/06 - 7/06 off meds

7/06 - 10/13 Prozac

4/12 - 11/12 Abilify

11/12 - 12/12 Risperdal

12/12 - 3/13 Geodon

7/13 - 10/13 tapered off Prozac

10/13 - present: med free

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Thank you all for your replies. I'm glad most of you haven't had issues with this stuff. It is really reassuring. I really lucked out. I don't need it pulled, maybe down the road if it gets infected again. For now I have to take amoxicillin 500 mg three times a day for 10 days. This even makes me scared. I am glad to hear that others haven't had a bad time with antibiotics. I bought some probiotic yogurt as well. I am already in a wave so I couldn't bear to make it worse.

2011-2014: 25-50mg Zoloft then CT via doctors advice. Some mild physical sx but fully functioning, unaware that withdrawal was a thing. Dr didn’t know why I was chronically dizzy with brain fog & advised to try Zoloft again.

2016: severe adverse reactions to Zoloft (1 dose), Paxil (3 weeks), celexa (2 weeks), buspar (1 dose), lamictal (4 doses). Ativan 12 times within a month. Also tried Xanax & klonopin a couple times. Each reaction became more severe. Kindled. Became disabled from these meds.

Drug free 12-16-2016
Month 1-20: +5% healing every month
Month 21- present: setback to acute from amoxicillin antibiotic (1 dose)
Month 32- 11 months into setback from antibiotic. Seems I was floxed by amoxicillin somehow. Horrific.

 

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I recently went to the dentist and needed a rotting tooth removed. In the time between the dentist appointment and the appointment with the oral surgeon the tooth broke off above the gum. The remaining tooth is obviously still rotting and now I have to find a new oral surgeon due to insurance change. I am so nervous but it's good to see that others did well with non-epenephrine local antistetics. Does anyone think that oral health could be part of the mental health issue during withdrawal? Could a rotting tooth make mental symptoms worse?

Paxil 20mg started around 2013 dropped to 10 mg at some point dropped to 5mg for 1 week then C/T August 2016.

 

Buspar 10 mg 2x daily started 2013 fluctuating amounts.

 

Tried cylexa 1 week at beginning of August 2016.

Tried wellbutrin 1 week after cylexa stopped both.

 

I have been off all meds for around 4- 5 years.

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I may need bonding applied to my teeth at some point.  It's the only solution I'm comfortable with because it doesn't require the use of drugs during the procedure.  Have any of you had dental bonding done while you were hypersensitive to medications?  Did it cause you to have an adverse reaction?  I'm concerned that the etching solution or the bonding material itself might be dangerous.  Thanks!

- 2002-2015: Zyprexa (Olanzapine), between 2.5mg to 5mg

- 9/15-2/16: Started a taper that jumped up and down quickly for five months.  Got really sick.  Took Xanax sporadically throughout taper.  Stopping taking Xanax in January 2016.

- 2/14/16: Increased dose to 3.75mg and held for two months, quickly got better at first and then slowly continued to get better after that

- Apr/16: 3.375mg, May/16: 3.03mg, Jun-Jul/16: 2.73mg, Aug-Sept/16: 2.5mg, Oct/16: 2.25mg, Nov/16: 2.03mg, Dec/16-Jan/17: 1.82mg, Feb/17: 1.64mg, Mar/17: 1.48mg, Apr/17: 1.33mg, May-Sept/17: 1.20mg, Oct/17: 1.08mg, Nov/17: 0.97mg, Dec/17: 0.87mg, Jan/17: 0.78mg, Feb/17: 0.71mg, Mar/17: 0.64mg, Apr/17: 0.57mg, May/17: 0.51mg

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I just wanted to report my experiences with dental work since reacting badly to psych drugs. Recently I had to have a number of cavities filled, and due to being extremely worried how I would react to the local, for most of them I chose to have no freezing at all.  Somehow I got through that, and it was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be...nowhere near as bad as say akathisia.  However those cavities weren't too bad (deep). For one they did end up putting on topical benzocaine even though I was reluctant to have that too.  No reaction though.  It wore off pretty fast too.

 

The final cavity though they insisted on using injectable freezing, as they said that cavity was deep.  Naturally I was really worried then, as I used to react to so many things when in severe withdrawal, even tiny amounts of herbs that are really safe usually.  However, nothing happened--I was given carbocaine, with NO epinephrine.  Before psych drugs I had generally good teeth so I'm not that used to freezing and the feeling to me was awful, maybe worse than the pain I got from work done with no freezing.  I was seriously worried it would not wear off properly but it did eventually (took a few hours.)  But in terms of bad reactions I had none. 

 

It should be noted I haven't touched any psych drug or even medication for a physical health problem in six years, and I have been free of the really severe withdrawal symptoms (except some memory loss) for a number of years too.  I haven't had akathisia, DP/DR, dissociation, really notable tardive dyskinesia symptoms, etc in a number of years now.

 

Also there are a number of hypnosis videos online you can find that might be used while you are having work done including some specifically aimed at calming anxiety that is related to having dental work done. 

 

 

 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I have been lucky and I haven´t had big dental problems during withdrawals and during the time I have had med sensitivities. But now I went to dentist to do a routine check  and she took X-ray and it showed I have one  deep cavity. I haven´t had pain in my teeth so I was quite surprised. She also told me that in worst case root canal therapy is necessary because the cavity was quite bad. Oh no. 😨 Hopefully it is not needed, the operation goes well and there will be no pain afterwards. Or this does not trigger a wave.🙁

 

I am pretty scared because I have been really sensitive to meds (after I developed akathisia, it was the point when I started to get hypersensitivities). I haven´t been able to use even pain meds without increase in symptoms during benzo withdrawal. I have managed to avoid using meds.

 

I am also afraid of pain afterwards the operation can cause. I asked to get the local anesthesia drug without adrenaline. Hopefully it will help to avoid anxiety or more discomfort that local anesthesia with adrenaline could cause. I seriously don´t need more discomfort, benzo WD symptoms are enough.😐

 

This sucks...

 

2005-2009 Lexapro 10-20mg & Remeron 7,5mg: cold turkey

2010 tried Venlafaxine (month),

2011-2012 Seroquel 25mg (few months)

2014 6 days Cipro(antibiotics) adverse reaction

2011-2015 Lexapro 10-20mg (tapered off during 4 months) 

2015-2016 (all these drugs during 9 months during SSRI wd,did not tolerate most of them ) : tried Remeron, Temazepam. Reinstatement of Lexapro 3 months after stopping it: fail. Akathisia, insomnia. Zyprexa10mg, Sodium Valproate, Temazepam(20mg), Oxazepam 30-45 mgs. Switching meds: Seroquel 50-100mg, Oxazepam  30-45mg , Temazepam 20mg. Then back to Zyprexa 10mg, Temazepam20mg, doctor took me off Oxazepam fast. Then Zyprexa 20mg, Temazepam 20mg, melatonin10mg ( sometimes very rarely Valium 10 mg.) Zyprexa: cold turkey because 20 mg Zyprexa made akathisia intolerable after every dose. After it insomnia, 24/7 akathisia, adverse reactions to supplements.

2016 spring daily  Valium 15mg (for akathisia)>0mg (used for 4 months and during that time slowly tapered off), tried Betablockers (shortly), Temazepam 40 mg > 25 mg (tapered in 3 months)

2016 summer Temazepam 25 mg > 20 mg, melatonin 2,5 mg

2016 november Melatonin 0,5 mg, Temazepam 20 mg.  Started tapering again.

2022 july (microtapering) 3,0 mg Temazepam Supplements: Probiotics, magnesium oil occasionally, melatonin 0,5 mg

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I went to the dentist hoping to have a molar taken out as it has been painful for years now.  He refused to take it out but took an x-ray, but didn't way what that showed up.  He then did a filling and said I needed two more fillings.

 

I'm sure I don't have to relate how anxiety affects a visit to the dentist, along with the discomfit of the injection and so on.  That afternoon I got a headache and for next two days, extreme tingling in my body and head and weird head feeling, sort of like being giddy - not dizzy, I get that and it was different.  I wonder if the anaesthetic can interfere with the brain when you are in w/d?

 

Could it be that the anaesthetic dose was too much, given that I am now very sensitive to other medications and can't tolerate full doses of many of them.

 

Not only that, after much distress and discomfit and $500 later, the pain in the tooth is still there!  I have to go back tomorrow, supposedly to get more fillings on the other side and to see what he has to say about the other one that is still hurting.

 

Has anyone else had similar experience? 

 

Does anyone have any advice?

 

 

 

 

1995-2007      20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  Years of up and down doses

2008                Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!) CT (oh dear!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg;    2015 2.5% taper 4.4 - 4.0mg

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3; Oct 3; Dec 2.9;

2018                2.5% taper. Jan 2.8; Mar 2.7; Mar: 2.75; Jun 2.7; Aug 2.6; Oct 2.5; Nov 2.4; Dec 2.3

2019                Jan 2.2; Feb 2.1;

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On 1/9/2019 at 6:36 PM, grandmaD said:

I've  been back to dentist, spent more money and now he tells me tooth needs a crown.  Two other teeth need crowns he said.  total cost $4,500.  Forget it.  I'll put up with the ache.

 

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1995-2007      20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  Years of up and down doses

2008                Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!) CT (oh dear!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg;    2015 2.5% taper 4.4 - 4.0mg

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3; Oct 3; Dec 2.9;

2018                2.5% taper. Jan 2.8; Mar 2.7; Mar: 2.75; Jun 2.7; Aug 2.6; Oct 2.5; Nov 2.4; Dec 2.3

2019                Jan 2.2; Feb 2.1;

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I found out that the headache and weird head sensations were related to the injection.  I had a visit from a friend I had not seen in many, many years and she told me about a cousin of hers, addicted to a/d's and having to take years and years to get off them.  She also had a dentist visit and could not tolerate the injection.  I hope this info might help others.

1995-2007      20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  Years of up and down doses

2008                Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!) CT (oh dear!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg;    2015 2.5% taper 4.4 - 4.0mg

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3; Oct 3; Dec 2.9;

2018                2.5% taper. Jan 2.8; Mar 2.7; Mar: 2.75; Jun 2.7; Aug 2.6; Oct 2.5; Nov 2.4; Dec 2.3

2019                Jan 2.2; Feb 2.1;

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I went through painful molar root canal operation during benzo WD. First dentist tried just to make dental filling because I had cavity in my tooth. I did not have any kind of discomfort in my tooth before the operation. After the operation started really intense pain that lasted for a week. So root canal had to be done. I was really scared because of more pain, because of my med sensitivities and because I dont tolerate pain meds now. After first treatment and meds that were used inside the tooth, the pain was significantly lower for a week but more pain came later after another root canal treatments.

 

I think local anesthesia was not so big issue for me. I asked for non adrenaline local anesthesia and I would recommend it for people who experience anxiety from local anesthesia. During first and second root canal operation the dentist had to use bigger amount of anesthesia (normal amount did not help because the nerves were so irritated and sore) and I felt some kind of symptoms because of it. During those times I felt like some kind of dizziness, a little bit of weird in my head, and increased anxiety, but it was not so bad I would have imagined.  When normal amount of anesthesia was used, I did not have so much of those symptoms. I am really sensitive to meds but local anesthesia was not so bad I would have imagined.

 

Pain was the worst part of the root canal operation. I had to go there multiple times. Pain lasted for  long time and some part of the root canal operation I had constant pain that just did not go away that just lasted and lasted. I thought taking pain meds multiple times but because I have had bad experiences from them when trying them before this, I did not take any pain meds. I did not want to risk getting any adverse effects and increased wd symptoms from them during benzo wd. It was tough. It really caused a lot of stress and setback. Constant pain causes a lot of stress. I have had one root canal operation before this and it was so much easier when I was not in benzo wd. I feel like being sensitive makes the pain also worse. And of course not being able to take pain meds made the experience even worse.

 

I had pain long time after the operation but it started slowly to subside even though I still feel some weird sensations in my tooth every now and then.

 

But now it is done and I am so happy about it even though it was not easy to go through it during benzo wd.

 

2005-2009 Lexapro 10-20mg & Remeron 7,5mg: cold turkey

2010 tried Venlafaxine (month),

2011-2012 Seroquel 25mg (few months)

2014 6 days Cipro(antibiotics) adverse reaction

2011-2015 Lexapro 10-20mg (tapered off during 4 months) 

2015-2016 (all these drugs during 9 months during SSRI wd,did not tolerate most of them ) : tried Remeron, Temazepam. Reinstatement of Lexapro 3 months after stopping it: fail. Akathisia, insomnia. Zyprexa10mg, Sodium Valproate, Temazepam(20mg), Oxazepam 30-45 mgs. Switching meds: Seroquel 50-100mg, Oxazepam  30-45mg , Temazepam 20mg. Then back to Zyprexa 10mg, Temazepam20mg, doctor took me off Oxazepam fast. Then Zyprexa 20mg, Temazepam 20mg, melatonin10mg ( sometimes very rarely Valium 10 mg.) Zyprexa: cold turkey because 20 mg Zyprexa made akathisia intolerable after every dose. After it insomnia, 24/7 akathisia, adverse reactions to supplements.

2016 spring daily  Valium 15mg (for akathisia)>0mg (used for 4 months and during that time slowly tapered off), tried Betablockers (shortly), Temazepam 40 mg > 25 mg (tapered in 3 months)

2016 summer Temazepam 25 mg > 20 mg, melatonin 2,5 mg

2016 november Melatonin 0,5 mg, Temazepam 20 mg.  Started tapering again.

2022 july (microtapering) 3,0 mg Temazepam Supplements: Probiotics, magnesium oil occasionally, melatonin 0,5 mg

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On 1/9/2019 at 6:36 PM, grandmaD said:

I've  been back to dentist, spent more money and now he tells me tooth needs a crown.  Two other teeth need crowns he said.  total cost $4,500.  Forget it.  I'll put up with the

 

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Recent issue was toothache (had for years) and a frightening, anxiety filled trip to the dentist to get the tooth out.  He refused and filled 3 teeth instead with hair line fractures at the base of the gum (receding gums). The fillings fell out a month later leaving me in pain again.

 

Just this week I found a new dentist and it took half an hour to convince him to take out the 2 aching teeth.  They both in good condition, but the hairline fractures on gumline was causing the pain with hot or cold food/drink.

 

I explained my withdrawal issues with previous dentist and how I had a very weird head for 2 or 3 days afterwards and they said it would have been the adrenalin in the anaesthetic.  So they used something different and it seemed to work good at the time.

 

However, the whole experience was a nightmare and extremely traumatic.  I thought he would just grab the tooth and yank it out, however neither teeth would budge!  Very embedded and also very long under the gum.  About 1/10th above gum with about 5/10 below and another 5/10ths was the root and the whole lot was curved.

 

Dentist was very patient, took it slow and said I could have a break if necessary.  If I felt pain I was to tell him and this happened at least 5 more times after the first injection, which meant 5 more injections to keep topping it up.

 

Then he used a lot of force/pressure to push down and had to break the tooth into bits and keep going down, cutting away gum, breaking it off a bit at a time… at one point he called in the head honcho to help, but he took ages to come, so he began working on the other tooth…same procedure.  By this point I couldn’t sit still, wasn’t coping and wanted to GO HOME!  He gave me a break, but it was dreadful.  Then suddenly, he got the root of the first tooth out and said we would get the other one out TODAY!

 

Instead of 1 hour it was 2.5 hours.  Then I had stitches which took another 15 minutes!  Words cannot explain how horrible it was.  When I could finally get up and go, I began to shake and cry and got cold and had trouble walking so the girl was kind enough to hold my arm and walk me to the car.

 

I was sent home with scripts which caused another crisis.  Antiobiotics and steroids.  I had read about problems with antibiotics but not steroids.  It said take 3 steroids at once which I was not prepared to do, but staggered them throughout the night every 3 hours.

 

I took the antibiotic separate and my aropax/paxil separate and painkillers separate, so as not to take 3 different drugs at once!  Quite a balancing act since they all meant to be taken with food!

 

That night the anaesthetic was still in effect so despite waking every 2 hours as usual, I was calm and able to get back to sleep and the pain was tolerable. 

 

Day 2 evening the anaesthetic began to wear off and palpitations started up, banging hard and rapid pulse, etc. with tight chest and breathlessness, plus shingles ache came back.  Then to bed as usual and couldn’t sleep for 3 hours so got up, back to bed, no sleep another 2 hours, up again and back to bed and no sleep another 2 hours.  I got 3 hours sleep and woke up revved up no end, very stimulated.

 

My head was the best it’s ever been!  Clear and “normal” I think!  Energy to burn so I was like superman, go, go, go!   I cleaned the bathrooms (unheard of first thing in the morning) and then did kitchen sink (unheard of to do 2 jobs one after the other)!  Then I crashed and although head was still good and revved up, my body started to shake again.

 

I am quite sure it is the steroid so I am not taking the next dose tonight!  He said it was for “inflammation” and I’m not sure if that was for the face and gums or inflammation in the head to alleviate the 3 day weird head I had at the previous dentist.

Or else it is just given to all patients who have “surgical extractions”.

 

Today is day 3 and my head is very weird, with buzzing, vibrations, seems stimulated with electrical impulses, I don’t know, it’s just horrible, worse than usual withdrawal head issues.  I also feel somewhat giddy/whoozy.  Since I didn’t take the steroid dose yesterday, this can only be from the anti-biotics I think. 

 

Any help or advice would be appreciated guys!

 

 

 

 

 

 

1995-2007      20mg Aropax/Paxil for pain.  Years of up and down doses

2008                Endep, Lexapro and then Esipram (hell!) CT (oh dear!)

2009                20mg Aropax.  Tried skipping doses for a year (more hell!)

                        2010                10mg.  10% taper.  Lasted 4 months. Crashed again

2011                5% taper. 9mg-7mg (hell got even worse!)

2012                2.5% taper.  6.6mg – 5.6mg (worser still & unbearable)

2013                5% taper.  Big mistake.  5.5mg – 4.6mg  (even worserer)

2014                2.5% taper.  4.9mg – 4.5mg;    2015 2.5% taper 4.4 - 4.0mg

2016                2.5% taper.  3.9mg  Feb 3.8   Mar 3.7  May 3.6   Jul 3.5

2017                2.5% taper.  Jan 3.4;   Mar 3.35;  Apr 3.3; Oct 3; Dec 2.9;

2018                2.5% taper. Jan 2.8; Mar 2.7; Mar: 2.75; Jun 2.7; Aug 2.6; Oct 2.5; Nov 2.4; Dec 2.3

2019                Jan 2.2; Feb 2.1;

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I have to have more dental work done and need to know if anyone here would happen to know if benzocaine (topical) contains epinephrine..I now have other reasons to avoid epi, so need to be sure it has none.  Last time seemed to go okay but am worried due to newer health issues.

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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I don't know about in other countries, but in the U.S. There is a dental plan that is not insurance but you get a huge discount on work.  It is $60 a year for individuals and $80 for a family.  Also there is a line of medical credit where you can charge your work, no interest and have up to 24 months to pay it off.  It has been a blessing to me to be able to have work done!  I don't know if I can mention it here.  

  1. .025 Xanax 3 x daily  Start date 10-13-2013 through 8-13-2014.  Started tapering 6-2014 to 8-2014.  Some small discomfort. 25 mg Zoloft - Start date 5-1-2014.  50mg. 6-2014.  through 7-14-2014 .  Started tapering  7-14-2014, stopped tapering 10-2014.  I did 1/4 of the dose a month.  small discomfort.  These next 3 were prescribed when I made some seriously bad choices with my thyroid medication.  Was in ER twice for possible heart attack.  INTENSE anxiety, panic, fear.   Lost 30 pounds in 2 weeks.  Thyroid levels bounced to extremes for 8 months. Dr. prescribed Zoloft 50mg  9-2105.  After 2 doses had a bad reaction passed out in my bedroom. Also prescribed Xanax .025  at the same time. 3 times daily, 4 if needed.  Was only on it about 2 weeks.  Was not working.  Trip ER they gave me an Ativan IV and it worked and lasted.  switched to Ativan. 9-24-2016. 1.5 mg Ativan - .5 mg  three x daily -start date 9/24/16.  Attempted taper start 12-16-2016. Was shaving Pills and alternating tapering AM, PM and midday dose weekly.  Buspar .5mg  -2.5mg. am and 2. 5mg. pm start date 9-26-2016 .  Lexapro .10mg  start date  - 10-26-2016. Found SA and began 10/14/2017 tapering .001 by weight of pill  every 4 days Held longer if there were was WD.    Was very sensitive to Ativan. 3-15-2018 Off midday dose - 7-16-2018 Off PM dose - OFF ATIVAN! 11-17-2018 10 mg. Lexapro. PM - 5 mg start date 10/11/2016 increased to 10 mg 2/2/17. 1-1-2019 Began tapering Lexapro.  .001 gm every 4 days.  Held longer if there was WD.  Last doses some I held a month.  OFF LEXAPRO! 2-21 2021 5 mg. Buspar  divided into two, 2.5 mg doses AM and PM- Start date 9/26/2016 Cold turkey on Dr. direction, AM and Pm  doses.  Reinstated  9-22-16. Began Buspar taper 1-29-23, .001 mg by weight of pills.  N.P. Desiccated Thyroid.  1-2023 Labs okay but not where I feel best. 60 mg. daily now but adding 15 mg. more  twice weekly for a few months then check.  Bioidentical hormones. Bi-est/Prog cream, 1/4 tsp.  1 time daily

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Has teeth chattering been a prominent WD symptom from anyone? I've had this for a handful of months now and it is so annoying! 

Celexa 10mg: 2007 to June 2018, stopped CT

No meds: June 2018 to December 2018

PROTRACTED WD-- major depressive episode for 2+ weeks

Lexapro 10mg: December 12, 2018 to January 19, 2019, severe adverse reaction

Celexa 10mg: January 20, 2019

June 24, 2019: 9mg

July 22, 2019: 8.5mg

Jan 8, 2020: 8mg

Aug 25, 2020: 7.2mg

 

Supplements: Magnesium, Fish Oil

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On 4/15/2019 at 1:45 PM, puthappinessfirst said:

Has teeth chattering been a prominent WD symptom from anyone? I've had this for a handful of months now and it is so annoying! 

 

I had severe shivering spells several times during withdrawal and while that went on had teeth chattering. 

I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions.

 

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