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Hi flowers

 

thank you and yes really handy to have this information for the dreaded dentist. Forewarned is definitely forearmed.  I will pm you later today. 

 

Love scorpio

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Junglechicken

I'm so sorry that you are in hell Ann, I only just saw your updates and people's responses.

 

Am in my own bubble and am not much use to anyone.

 

Thinking of you and sending you HUGE hugs my friend.

 

You WILL get through this, stay strong.

 

Love,

JC xxx

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Scorpio

Hi junglechicken 

 

‘’I’m so sorry you are going through hell too, god it’s endless isn’t it. I’ve just looked and see you had the rotten sinuses playing up again and I’m with you on the gut issues. 

 

You have much more cause to feel helpless and hopeless my friend and my heart is with you. I hope your new home is brightening your life a little. 

 

‘’Huge hugs to you, keep going, life will get brighter for you again, it would help if the freezing weather followed by the miserable rain would disappear and give us a decent spring. 

 

Love scorpio

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Kristine

Hey Scorpio, Just letting you know I am  thinking of you and hoping your suffering has eased...even just a little? All we can do it keep putting one foot in front of the other...I've been thinking of getting a pair of those silly cartoon character slippers..at least then the steps may be a little more entertaining! Lol. Much Love. K xo

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Scorpio

Hi Kristine 

 

you made me laugh with the slippers. Today woke with the same old symptoms but not as extreme as the past 6 days. The anxiety is always the worst thing for me it envelops me completely.  I did manage to collect my little grandson from nursery at lunchtime.  He was so happy, it’s contagious and helps me cope, mind you he’s exhausting,  eyes required in the back of the head.  

 

I am now on the settee recovering with the tv babbling away in the background.  

 

Hope all is well with you, let me know which slippers!  

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Scorpio

Hi ChessieCat and Alto

 

i have now completed a 3 day journal of doses and symptoms. I would say I hve just returned from the dentist after 10 days of discomfort to be told I have an infection in one of my molars so now on antibiotics.   Together with that I have since yesterday gone down with yet another cold, the joy of being with my 16 month grandson on a regular basis. 

 

6th March

6am.       Woken by burning face, high anxiety probably not helped by dental appointment this morning. 

7.30am    took 1mg of cipralex.  Mug of tea. Ginger yoghurt. High anxiety.  Pins and needles in little fingers. 

8.00am.   Took hrt, calcium/vitamin d.  Mug of tea. Banana

9.00am.    Dental surgery cancelled appointment due to illness.  High anxiety.  Pins & needles. Cramping bowels. Nausea. 

                    Fatigue.  Tinnitus. Loose stools.  

10.00am.   High anxiety.  Pins/needles in finger.  Sensitive eyes. 

12.30pm.   Ate sandwich. Sensitive eyes.  Bowel cramping.  High anxiety.  Nausea. 

3.00pm.     Anxiety slightly less.  Headache.  Bowel cramping. Tinnitus. 

5.00pm.     Anxiety lower. Tinnitus.  Pins/needles 

6.30pm.     Dinner

8.00pm.     Anxiety low. Tinnitus less noisy. 

10.30pm.   1mg melatonin.  Bed. 

 

7th March

4.15am.     Woke anxiety.   Burning body.  Back to sleep 

6.00am.      Woke anxiety.  Pins needles fingers. 

7.30am.      1mg lexapro. Anxiety high. Pins needles fingers. Tinnitus quieter. 

8.30am.      Yoghurt. Banana. Pins/needles fingers. Anxiety high. Stools not so loose 

10.30am.    Tinnitus quieter.  Pins/needles gone. Slight nausea,  eyes sensitive. Anxiety high. 

11.00am.    Headache followed by disturbed vision similar to pre migraine without the headache. Lasted 15 minutes. After attack

                      Found I could lay flat on floor without dizziness, unable to do this since w/d. 

12.45pm.     Sandwich.  Camomile tea. 

                      Anxiety lower, no pins/needles.  Mild headache. 

3.00pm.        Anxiety lower again. 

6.30pm.        Anxiety low, tinnitus quiet. Dinner.

10.45.           Bed 1mg melatonin 

1.00am.       Woke. burning face. ‘Back to sleep 1.30

5.00am.        Woken burning body and face continued until I got up at 7.00am

 

8th march

5.00am.      Awake - burning. Cold starting. 

7.30am.       1mg cipralex. Anxiety.  Nausea,  tinnitus,  pins/needles

8.00am.       Yoghurt. Banana. Hrt. Calcium/vitamin d

10.00am.     Nausea. Tinnitus,  anxiety very high.  Pins/needles little finger of right hand.  Cold symptoms 

1.00pm.       Lunch in restaurant. Anxiety lower.  Headache. Negligible pins/needles. Cold symptoms. 

3.00pm.       All symptoms very low. Cold symptoms 

5.00pm.       Anxiety increased. Tinnitus louder. Headache. Cold symptoms. 

8.00pm.      Anxiety high.  Tinnitus. Headache. Cold symptoms. 

10.30pm.    Melatonin 1mg. Bed

1.00am.      Woken burning body back to sleep

3.00am.      Woken burning body. Continued rest of night. Very little sleep. Lower back pain. 

 

9th march

7.30am.       1mg cipralex. Anxiety very high, fatigue. Headache. Tinnitus loud. 

8.30am.       Yoghurt. Banana. Vitamin d/calclium. Stools not as loose. 

9.00am.        Care of 15 month grandson .  Anxiety high. Fatigue. Cold symptoms. Lower back pain 

12.00pm.      Dentist visit. Diagnosed infection in root of molar prescribed antibiotics.  Extremely anxious. Cold symptoms. 

                        Fatigue. 

 

I am now on 4 x 250mg antibiotics for 7 days. Have a fairly bad cold.  Not sure if both these things have combined to cause me so many new symptoms like burning through the night. Very rarely get it during the day. I normally sleep to 6.00am and wake with anxiety but this last couple of weeks has been disturbed sleep. 

 

‘’Hope you have all the info you need. Thank you for taking the time to try and help. 

 

Scorpio. 

 

 

 

 

 

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ChessieCat

It sounds like you are very run down at the moment.  Please keep writing the diary.  I imagine it will be hard for us to decipher anything until you are off the antibiotics for the tooth infection and recovered from the cold.

 

You mentioned that your symptoms had worsened over the last couple of weeks.  It is possible it was due to the infection.

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Scorpio

Hi ChessieCat 

 

thank you for looking at it so quickly. I agree that the cold which came out yesterday and also the infection which has been there 10 days could have exacerbated things. 

 

‘’I seem to have no resistance to anything through the entire winter. Not aided by my grandson attending nursery and bringing every bug home. I look after him 2 days a week and generally see him and my daughter on other days through the week too. Hopefully with spring coming I will stand a chance to get some resistance and hopefully put on some weight which might help as well. 

 

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bubble

What antibiotic are you taking?

 

You may want to check out this thread: 

 

 

Hang in there. Xxx

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Altostrata

Scorpio, please put all your drugs, including the antibiotic, in the Drug Interactions checker  and copy and paste the results in this topic.

 

On 3/9/2018 at 9:48 AM, Scorpio said:

7.30am.       1mg cipralex. Anxiety.  Nausea,  tinnitus,  pins/needles

 

 

How soon after you take cipralex do you feel anxiety, nausea, etc. --- or do you feel those symptoms before taking cipralex?

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

Scorpio, please put all your drugs, including the antibiotic, in the Drug Interactions checker  and copy and paste the results in this topic.

 

 

How soon after you take cipralex do you feel anxiety, nausea, etc. --- or do you feel those symptoms before taking cipralex?

Hi alto

the anxiety usually wakes me and continues after I have taken the cipralex. I had a better day yesterday with very low levels of anxiety through the day and did not wake until 6.30. Today it is back to 5am waking with high anxiety which is continuing after taking the lexapro an hour ago. Burning face was another symptom at 5am. 

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Altostrata

Do you have drug and symptom notes from day before yesterday, yesterday, and today? That would help us figure out what went right yesterday (was that Friday for you?).

 

 

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Scorpio

Hi alto

below is my diary for the last three days including today 

 

friday 9 March 

7.30am.          Took 1mg cipralex. Anxiety very high.  Fatigue.  Tinnitus loud.  headache. Cold symptoms bad

8.30am.           Yoghurt. Banana.  Took hrt. Calcium/vitamin d.  Stools not as loose. Anxiety high. 

9.00am.           Care of 15 month grandson. Anxiety very high. Fatigue.  Cold symptoms. Lower back pain.  Tinnitus loud.

12.00pm.         Dentist appointment. Diagnosed with infection in root and gum of molar. Prescription of erithromycin. 4 x 250mg a

                          Day. 

12.30pm.          Took first antibiotic. Lunch,  anxiety very high. Nausea. Tinnitus loud. Cold symptoms heavy. 

2.00pm.             Care of grandson.  Nausea.  Anxiety lower to 7/10. Tinnitus loud. Fatigue. 

5.00pm.            Anxiety lower 5/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus quieter. Nausea.

6.30pm.            Took antibiotic.  Dinner. Anxiety 3/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Nausea. Tinnitus quieter. 

10.45pm.          Took antibiotic.  Melatonin 1mg. Bed

 

saturday 10 March 

6.30am.            Woke.  Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus quiet. Anxiety 4/10. Fatigue. 

7.30am.             Took 1mg cipralex Tinnitus quiet. Heavy cold. Anxiety 4/10. 

8.30am.             Yoghurt. Banana. Took hrt and calcium/vitamin d. Took antibiotic.  Low anxiety 4/10. Low nausea. Heavy cold. 

                           Tinnitus quiet. Stools normal - first time in months. 

10.30am.           Supermarket shopping.  Heavy cold. Anxiety 5/10. Tinnitus quiet. Nausea. Lower back pain. 

12.30pm.          Took antibiotic.  Lunch. Anxiety 3/10. Tinnitus quiet. Nausea.  Heavy cold. Fatigue. 

3.00pm.            Went with daughter and grandson to large toy shop. Heavy cold symptoms. Anxiety low 3/10. Tinnitus low.

                           Nausea

6.30pm.             Took antibiotic.  Low anxiety 2/10.  Tinnitus quiet.  Nausea. Heavy cold. 

11.00pm.           Took antibiotic. 1mg melatonin. Bed

 

sunday 11 March 

5.00am.             Woken by high anxiety,  burning face. Pins and needles. 

5.00 to 7.00am. Slept off and on being woken by burning and anxiety 8/10 

7.30am.             1mg cipralex . Anxiety 8/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus loud. Nausea. Fatigue. 

8.30am.             Yoghurt.  Banana. Hrt. Vitamin d/calcium .  Antibiotic.  Anxiety 8/10. Tinnitus loud. Heavy cold symptoms. 

                            Nausea. Grumbling stomach. Lower back pain. 

9.30am.             Anxiety 8/10. Nausea.  Tinnitus loud. Headache. Loose stools. Eyes sensitive. Fatigue.  

10.00am - now.  Anxiety 7/10. Nausea. Grumbling stomach. Headache. Sensitive eyes. Tinnitus loud. Bowel cramping. Heavy 

                             Cold. 

 

 

I have been unable to take many antibiotics since starting cipralex. Have had to take clarithromycin which makes me very unwell. The dentist insisted I take erithromycin and although loose stools today and more nausea have been able to take them which is surprising. 

 

I am so confused at the moment as to why I cannot seem to get stability although I fully understand while unwell things can get worse. Unsure what steps I should take next. Whether to continue as I am or to reduce cipralex.  

 

Any suggestions will be very appreciated. 

 

Thank you. 

 

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powerback

Hi scorpio ,you poor thing you've had a brutal winter ,your very like myself by the looks of it  ,I'm astonished at how bad things are for me and it must be to do with not being able to fight off everything being  thrown at my body.ive got so complacent at presuming everything is withdrawl and I just give it time ,I think this is absolute madness .I need to go dentist myself but I'm freaked out over antibiotics ,I need a root canal done again and the thoughts of it freaks me out but reading here I must just get it sorted .

Take care and I hope you get well .

Happy mothers day to you .

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Scorpio

Hi powerback 

 

thank you for your kind message. Yes life has been miserable for both of us. I hate the thought of gp’s and dentists but sometimes we have no alternative. The relief on coming out in one piece helps it’s just the anxiety buildup before you see them. 

 

Hopefully we will both come out stronger and better as the warmer weather greets us - eventually. 

 

Face the dentist as the anxiety worrying about it won’t do you any good. The antibiotics do make us feel awful but it will be one week then gone and feeling better. 

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Scorpio

Hi bubble

 

lovely to see you on my thread. I hope you are feeling better and life is being kinder to you. 

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1 minute ago, Scorpio said:

Hi powerback 

 

thank you for your kind message. Yes life has been miserable for both of us. I hate the thought of gp’s and dentists but sometimes we have no alternative. The relief on coming out in one piece helps it’s just the anxiety buildup before you see them. 

 

Hopefully we will both come out stronger and better as the warmer weather greets us - eventually. 

 

Face the dentist as the anxiety worrying about it won’t do you any good. The antibiotics do make us feel awful but it will be one week then gone and feeling better. 

I never was scared before ,I'm in such a state I cant face anything but I think I mite have a couple of infections in the my body and its snow balling,i had such bad cog fog over the years of meds  that I left a small infection over a crown for a long time ,its embarrassing it didn't register to sort it out.the last time I got antibiotics and it didn't clear the infection .there was never pain .I could of poisoned myself .

reading your situation is pushing me to sort it out .I got my first crown many years ago and I'm on my second so they'll have to go back in and clean it out :unsure:.

Take care 

 

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Hi powerback 

 

‘’ouch. Mine is under a crown that’s had root canal treatment in the past too. This apparently, according to the dentist, means the infection won’t go into the blood stream as the nerve is dead. He reckons long term prognosis for the crown is not good but I’m not going to worry about that until I have to. 

 

‘’Like you I wasn’t scared of anything before this drug now the anxiety rules everything. My hairdresser who I used to happily visit at the salon she owns now comes to me as I can’t go there. People are so kind. 

 

Face those fears get to the dentist then one less thing to worry about. 

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43 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi powerback 

 

‘’ouch. Mine is under a crown that’s had root canal treatment in the past too. This apparently, according to the dentist, means the infection won’t go into the blood stream as the nerve is dead. He reckons long term prognosis for the crown is not good but I’m not going to worry about that until I have to. 

 

‘’Like you I wasn’t scared of anything before this drug now the anxiety rules everything. My hairdresser who I used to happily visit at the salon she owns now comes to me as I can’t go there. People are so kind. 

 

Face those fears get to the dentist then one less thing to worry about. 

I'm over thinking it ide  say ,there's only a little puss that comes out [yuk so sorry ].

Ive booked my appointment for next week get the ball rolling ,theres an antibiotic I'm allergic to but I need to go into my records  to find that out and that will be like getting teeth pulled in its self with this doctor  ;).I don't want to go near him .

Take care S .

 

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Altostrata

Today, Sunday, is the third day you've taken the antibiotics?

 

Seems that the symptoms are more severe today? Could be the antibiotics kicking in. How long do you have to take them?

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Hi alto

yes that is correct. Day three today and the course is 7 days so will complete on Friday morning 7.30am last tablet of 28. 

 

I am just hoping once this course is over and the cold hopefully eases the symptoms might have a chance to settle. It seems the most I have had through the entire winter is about 10 days of no cold or virus attacking me. 

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16 hours ago, Scorpio said:

Hi alto

below is my diary for the last three days including today 

 

friday 9 March 

7.30am.          Took 1mg cipralex. Anxiety very high.  Fatigue.  Tinnitus loud.  headache. Cold symptoms bad

8.30am.           Yoghurt. Banana.  Took hrt. Calcium/vitamin d.  Stools not as loose. Anxiety high. 

9.00am.           Care of 15 month grandson. Anxiety very high. Fatigue.  Cold symptoms. Lower back pain.  Tinnitus loud.

12.00pm.         Dentist appointment. Diagnosed with infection in root and gum of molar. Prescription of erithromycin. 4 x 250mg a

                          Day. 

12.30pm.          Took first antibiotic. Lunch,  anxiety very high. Nausea. Tinnitus loud. Cold symptoms heavy. 

2.00pm.             Care of grandson.  Nausea.  Anxiety lower to 7/10. Tinnitus loud. Fatigue. 

5.00pm.            Anxiety lower 5/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus quieter. Nausea.

6.30pm.            Took antibiotic.  Dinner. Anxiety 3/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Nausea. Tinnitus quieter. 

10.45pm.          Took antibiotic.  Melatonin 1mg. Bed

 

saturday 10 March 

6.30am.            Woke.  Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus quiet. Anxiety 4/10. Fatigue. 

7.30am.             Took 1mg cipralex Tinnitus quiet. Heavy cold. Anxiety 4/10. 

8.30am.             Yoghurt. Banana. Took hrt and calcium/vitamin d. Took antibiotic.  Low anxiety 4/10. Low nausea. Heavy cold. 

                           Tinnitus quiet. Stools normal - first time in months. 

10.30am.           Supermarket shopping.  Heavy cold. Anxiety 5/10. Tinnitus quiet. Nausea. Lower back pain. 

12.30pm.          Took antibiotic.  Lunch. Anxiety 3/10. Tinnitus quiet. Nausea.  Heavy cold. Fatigue. 

3.00pm.            Went with daughter and grandson to large toy shop. Heavy cold symptoms. Anxiety low 3/10. Tinnitus low.

                           Nausea

6.30pm.             Took antibiotic.  Low anxiety 2/10.  Tinnitus quiet.  Nausea. Heavy cold. 

11.00pm.           Took antibiotic. 1mg melatonin. Bed

 

sunday 11 March 

5.00am.             Woken by high anxiety,  burning face. Pins and needles. 

5.00 to 7.00am. Slept off and on being woken by burning and anxiety 8/10 

7.30am.             1mg cipralex . Anxiety 8/10. Heavy cold symptoms. Tinnitus loud. Nausea. Fatigue. 

8.30am.             Yoghurt.  Banana. Hrt. Vitamin d/calcium .  Antibiotic.  Anxiety 8/10. Tinnitus loud. Heavy cold symptoms. 

                            Nausea. Grumbling stomach. Lower back pain. 

9.30am.             Anxiety 8/10. Nausea.  Tinnitus loud. Headache. Loose stools. Eyes sensitive. Fatigue.  

10.00am - now.  Anxiety 7/10. Nausea. Grumbling stomach. Headache. Sensitive eyes. Tinnitus loud. Bowel cramping. Heavy 

                             Cold. 

 

 

I have been unable to take many antibiotics since starting cipralex. Have had to take clarithromycin which makes me very unwell. The dentist insisted I take erithromycin and although loose stools today and more nausea have been able to take them which is surprising. 

 

I am so confused at the moment as to why I cannot seem to get stability although I fully understand while unwell things can get worse. Unsure what steps I should take next. Whether to continue as I am or to reduce cipralex.  

 

Any suggestions will be very appreciated. 

 

Thank you. 

 

Hi Scorpio,

I'm so sorry to learn you are suffering.  I don't have a lot of wisdom about your situation, but I just wanted to share that I had to cut way back on dairy to reduce tinnitus.  I'm still not sure if there is causality, but I am trying anything I can to keep the noise from driving me up a wall.  I find the following things are possible triggers for my tinnitus:  salt (the worst offender), nitrates, diet soda (aspartame especially), dairy, tomatoes.  I hope you feel better soon.

xo RM

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Hey, Scorpio.  A big hug to you. -- Rosetta

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Scorpio

Hello RealMe

 

thank you for your kind words. I have had the tinnitus since being put on lexapro and I suppose like most things you gradually get used to it but would be much happier if I knew it was going to disappear completely. Diet doesn’t seem to have a huge affect on it for me. When I have good days the tinnitus can reduce to almost nothing so I’m keeping everything crossed that the better I get the more it will go. I certainly wish the same for you. I think it’s a matter of time and getting these drugs our of our system. 

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Hi Rosetta

 

thank you for your lovely message. Once the cold and antibiotics are gone hopefully things will improve. 

 

‘’How are you feeling, I hope w/d is behaving for you and hugs back to you,  

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Well, apparently I caught your cold from writing on your thread.  Oh, joy.  Yes, when the cold is gone all will be better.

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Hi rosetta’

 

Oops - we Breed really virulent bugs in the uk, they will break through anywhere!  Hope you don’t suffer too much, I am now at the coughing, spluttering stage, very attractive. 

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Hello moderators

 

i am asking for advice again.  I have been off the antibiotics for some time now so have cleared my system and the cold has thankfully gone but still no .improvement in w/d. 

 

‘’Since June when w/d started I have been unable to put on any weight although try to eat a  sensible diet although on bad w/d days my appetite disappears completely.  I am still completely unable to have social contact with friends. Occasionally can talk on the phone but not very often. I try to get out with my husband most days even just a short walk. The anxiety is the worst symptom for me. This weekend again was awful with anxiety very high, nausea, tinnitus, loose bowels, sensitive eyes, burning face, fatigue. Yesterday I had no burning and fatigue had eased so for second time in the past week able to get into my garden to do a couple of hours tidying and cutting plants.  My sleep since the cold has gone has improved. Last night 11.15 to 6.45am. I realise compared to a lot of people I am very lucky in being able to sleep. 

 

‘My husband has been very supportive as well as my daughter but they have both suffered badly with my extremely restricted lifestyle.  Two holidays cancelled since July. 

 

I would like to know whether you think the 1mg of cipralex is helping or exacerbating my symptoms and if I should continue on this dose or reduce. I am very scared that I will make things worse by reducing but at the same time feel as though w/d is just not improving. I have not had a true window since June unlike when on the cipralex  8mg and would get windows that would last a good few weeks. 

 

‘’As stated above on March 11th the only other drugs/supplements I take are vitamind/calcium, hrt, echinacea,  lavender spray on pillow at night. 

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Oh my friend,

 

I read of your struggles and admire how strong you are in spite of them.

 

I Hope you will get some answers soon.

I'm thinking of you.

Take care

JS

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Dearest Scorpio - I am so sorry you continue to struggle.  I am thinking about you, as always.

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