street129: hi

[street129]

just need to understand the taper, im on 250mg of trazodone, started tapering on my own cause i had no where to turn and noone to guide, since i was directed to this board can you please so that i can be sure to do this right, i strated doing 200mg, as i read the board i see its wrong, i have been doing 200mg from tuesday to thursday when i saw this board friday i started doing 225mg for the 10 percent, i had stop 1 day before i reinstated and began tapering, no one told me i was gonning get addictive, i was shaking and itching when i had stop, im still itching and not feeling myself. anyway saturday i did 225mg and tonight i will do 225mg, am i on the right track, thanks in advance.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Dan998
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[street129]

been on trazodone for 2 years and im ready to get off. i have increase my doses and didnt know it was an addictive drug. 

[street129]

hi im new to the board and my pill that im on is trazodone.   its been 2 year taking it and want to stop.

[KarenB]

Hello Street,

 

Thanks for setting up an Intro thread.  I think you have made a good decision in up-dosing to 225mg trazodone.  You were only on the 200 for a couple of days, so you should settle into the 225 okay.  Itching and shaking are normal withdrawal symptoms, and they should ease over time.  For now it is mportant to stay on 225mg for at least a month.  This is to give your body and Central Nervous System time to adjust to the lowered dose.  If you need more time than this, that's okay.  It's important not to rush things.

 

Can you read these threads?

tips-for-tapering-off-trazodone

keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable

how-psychiatric-drugs-remodel-your-brain

 

You might also like to keep daily notes about how your symptoms are.

 

Welcome to SA,

Karen

[street129]

thanks for your reply those four days that i started out at 200mg was a lot of days,

 

i started the 200mg on tuesday till thursday, i have not been feeling ok since, i had stop cold turkey the monday and got back on tapering last tuesdqay.. i began the 225mg as i fouund out the 10 percent is the correct dose.

 

what do you thing i should do to feel better. i feel like a walking zombie. should  i start all over ...guess there aint no other way to go. so i should stay at 225mg... i will wait on your suggestion, and thanks again. blessed night to you karen. 

[street129]

should i do 5 percent of 250mg. what do you think ..let me know

[KarenB]

Am I understanding correctly that you have now been on 225mg for 4 days?  This is a very minimal amount of time when waiting for stability. 

It is always hard to know for certain what is the best way, however my instinct would be to stay on 225 for another week or so to give yourself a chance to stabilise.  

 

Is this correct?

Previous 2 years - 250mg

Monday - 'stopped the cold-turkey', 'I had stopped for one day before I reinstated' (I'm not sure what you mean here.)

Tuesday - Thursday  200mg

Friday - Today  225mg

 

[street129]

i had stop because i didnt know i wasnt suppose to stop cold turkey. when i had stop , i stop cause i was done with the pill i didnt know that i should not have stop...

 

and its correct 250mg for 2 years

stop on monday cause i was finish with the trazodone not knowing i cant just stop like that.

tuesday throught thursday  went back on at 200mg.. found out from readiing this site it should be  10 percent of 250mg

then the friday which was last friday following the thursday up it to 225mg so i did friday, saturday and sunday at 225mg and tonight which is monday will be 225mg.

 

you are right with how you understand it. thanks again i will stay at 225mg. thanks so much, its so scary when you're all alone in this  thank you for your assistance.

 

[KarenB]

Thanks for clarifying Street.  You could put that new information into your signature.  That way we'll have it for future reference. 

 

Please don't feel alone - you are among people who understand here.  After some time you should start to stabilise.  Did you get a chance to read these threads?

keep-it-simple-keep-it-slow-keep-it-stable

how-psychiatric-drugs-remodel-your-brain

 

Understanding why this is happening can be helpful when you are having difficult days.

Hugs,

Karen

[street129]

+

would love to put that in my signature, i cant remember how to do the signature, i have brain fog.

can you tell me where to go again to do the signature.  thanks. i do read the posts that people posts. but some of them scares the crap out of me that i stop reading them ... about how the brains works on  these pills its scary to me , i read a lot of things on here every educational ,

 i was told so many different ways of tapering, my own pcp dr wanted me to do 250mg for 2 days then  200mg for 3 days then 150mg another 3 days  then 100mg 4 days till 50 7 days,,,i didnt like that so i came to the net for help then found here. glad i didnt take my dr's advice, it just didnt seams smart and sensible to me.   

[AntiAntiPsychotic]

This won't really help you, but feel like I should share it for the record.

 

Dont get me wrong, I'm suffering too but from Risperdal

 

anyway, not too long ago I went to my doctor to complain about my experience & get answers, especially for my insomnia

 

and guess what ?! He gave me a prescription for Trazadone, stating "it's harmless. It will help you sleep. There are no bad side effects. I give it to nearly 80% of my patients. No one has ever complained"

 

well I took his sh*tty advice & picked up the Trazadone, BUT decided to not take it whatsoever !!! Ever since my Risperdal & Abilify experience I trust no prescribed meds at all anymore, and knew Trazadone would probably end up just as bad. I was scared of its dependency.

 

to this day, I have a little bag with Trazadone pills just sitting there. **** that. Lol. Sorry for the rant but it was related

[ChessieCat]

Hi street129,

 

In response to your PM, there are many existing topics/discussions on the site.

 

I use google and type in survivingantidepressants.org and the topic so you could type in:  survivingantidepressants.org omega, or survivingantidepressants.org whey.  Other examples:  supplements, vitamin, omega, melatonin,  B6.

[street129]

so i want to ask once i completed the first month trazodone at 225mg .. how do i do the next 10 percent of 225mg i know its not 200mg or is it. and  then is it 150mg and then 100mg a month of each or  my percentage is off. thanks i  havent taken any supplements like you told me not to, i have omega 3 once this morning, should i  take a pill in the night or it doesnt matter and why is taking mqgnesium ok to take, i have ciltrate, i dont take it tho.

[nz11]

Hi street,

I compliment you on your desire to get this correct...

And well done also on finding sa.....quite an accomplishment in the difficult environment of doctor cluelessness and doctor silence regarding truth.

 

Basically to find the next dose using a 10% reduction simply multiply your current dose by 0.9. And every dose thereafter is found using 0.9 as a multiplier on the previous months dose.

Also would you be so kind to put specific dates in your drug sig. 'Last monday' could be last month last year anything . This will stop confusion going forward for others who come to read your drug sig.

There are links here to taper schedules ill see if I can find one and post it for you....

[ChessieCat]

Here is a link to Tapering Calculator - Online

[street129]

3 hours ago, nz11 said:

Hi street,

I compliment you on your desire to get this correct...

And well done also on finding sa.....quite an accomplishment in the difficult environment of doctor cluelessness and doctor silence regarding truth.

 

Basically to find the next dose using a 10% reduction simply multiply your current dose by 0.9. And every dose thereafter is found using 0.9 as a multiplier on the previous months dose.

Also would you be so kind to put specific dates in your drug sig. 'Last monday' could be last month last year anything . This will stop confusion going forward for others who come to read your drug sig.

There are links here to taper schedules ill see if I can find one and post it for you....

thank you for reply can you gave me and example how to do the 0.9 so my next does will be what after the month of 225mg. thanks im horrible with math,  i will fix my signature. i thought it would be by the 10 percent. 

[nz11]

Well you could simply put the values into the taper schedule calculator from cc ( hey cc you sure are a speedy cat, nice taper schedule by the way ..I assume that's the cc version...well done). 

Else it goes like this : 

current dose 225.

Next dose is 0.9 times 225 =202.5 

Then 28 days later new dose is 0.9 times 202.5 =182.25

Then 28 days later new dose is 0.9 times 185.25 = 164.03

etc

etc. 

 

Some people are using a scale to do this and some are taking it in liquid. 

 

[street129]

so its not 30 days but 28 going forward....thanks  can you do a couple more  whats after 164 and will it always 0.9 till im finish.. i want to save this copy since i dont know how to proceed to the end. thank you so  much

[nz11]

street129 many people are getting a compound pharmacy to make up the exact dosage for them. Is this something you might be interested in. I don't know if this is something you can enquire about with your pharmacist.

The time on each dose (hold 'interval') is usually spoken of in terms of weeks that's why its 28 days (4 weeks)  however you can choose whatever time frame you would like. The rec is holds of  4 weeks  its also easy to note the calendar if one operates in weeks I would think. Do have a read of the tapering link posted above by KB. You must read this.

 

If you don't get a pharmacy to provide the exact dose required then you would be best to invest in a scale as you will need to make exact dosages else it will be hard when all you have is  50's  and a 100's  and you got to make 185mg say. 

Weighing your tablets with a digital scale will enable accurate dosage.

You could always investigate obtaining  liquid.

 

Unfortunately to get ourselves out of this drug addiction by stealth we have all had to step up and take full control of our situation. That means satisfying ourselves of the tapering process and not blindly trusting a doctor and his verbal pharma propaganda.  If you think its too much to calc your dosage changes then don't take this personally but you should go with a compounding pharmacist. 

 

 

[street129]

I WILL GO FOR THE SCALE. I WILL LOOK FOR A SMALL ONE ON AMAZON AND THEN YOU WILL TELL ME HOW TO DO THE PILL WITH THE SCALE. THIS IS SCARY AN OVERWHELMING.   THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP YOU ARE GIVING ME. HOPE TO SPEAK WITH YOU TOMORROW. 

[street129]

10 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Here's a discussion:  body-temperature-dysregulation-fever-chills-shivering-too-hot-too-cold

 

Sweats is No 31 on Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist

CHESSIECAT... THANKS FOR THE TAPER LINK, CAN YOU PLEASE SEND ME A LINK ON HOW TO USED THE DIGITAL SCALE ON A TAPER OF 202.50MG...I DIDNT AND STILL DONT REALLY KNOW HOW TO USE THIS BOARD, I SEND YOU A PM...I NEED TO GET THIS OH SO RIGHT WITH TAKING MY TRAZODONE TAPER. THANKS AGAIN, AND I HOPE YOU'RE DOING FINE... CAN I BUY A DIGTITAL SCALE ON AMAZON OR A LINK ON HOW THE SCALE LOOK LIKE. 

[ChessieCat]

Hi street,

 

Please do not use all CAPITALS when typing.

 

From what-will-get-you-warned-or-banned

 

"- Using all capital letters in posts.
On the Internet, the use of ALL CAPITALS to communicate is interpreted as shouting. Posts entirely in capital letters irritate the moderators and will not get you extraordinary attention, if that is your purpose.
 
Moderators will hide posts that are entirely in all caps. If you persist in using all caps, you may get warnings. Upon the 4th warning, you will be banned.
 
Please keep this a civil community. Use your inside voice instead of all caps."

 

Edited September 2, 2017 by ChessieCat

[ChessieCat]

14 hours ago, nz11 said:

Weighing your tablets with a digital scale will enable accurate dosage.

 

In answer to you PM question nz11 has already given you the link.

[nz11]

What do you think about the compounding pharmacy idea.

If you are unable to calc progressive iterations using 0.9 as a multiplier then maybe  a compound pharmacy may be the best option.

If you still want to go with the weigh your own approach then the good folk here will walk you through it. Dont panic. It might be a surprise to you but this really is a friendly place with many people on standby to support you.

 

 

[street129]

7 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Hi street,

 

Please do not use all CAPITALS when typing.

 

From what-will-get-you-warned-or-banned

 

"- Using all capital letters in posts.
On the Internet, the use of ALL CAPITALS to communicate is interpreted as shouting. Posts entirely in capital letters irritate the moderators and will not get you extraordinary attention, if that is your purpose.
 
Moderators will hide posts that are entirely in all caps. If you persist in using all caps, you may get warnings. Upon the 4th warning, you will be banned.
 
Please keep this a civil community. Use your inside voice instead of all caps."

 

for all my years on the internet that is how i type, and its personal for me cause i have difficult with eye problems, maybe sometime people should stop and thing why people type in caps, the way i type has nothing to do with anyone on any of these boards on the internet. the defination of typing in caps is not a true defination cause people of all ages uses the internet and the words are small and is hard to see for some of us, my using caps has everything to do with me and no one else.i will get banned because of my personal situation why i type in caps.... i understand.

[street129]

everyone here on this board is not their best, but why have a board is you cannot get direct answers from anyone.  to asked a question its seem like its someone already post that question. why is this board running. can anyone tell me. if they can

[street129]

3 hours ago, nz11 said:

What do you think about the compounding pharmacy idea.

If you are unable to calc progressive iterations using 0.9 as a multiplier then maybe  a compound pharmacy may be the best option.

If you still want to go with the weigh your own approach then the good folk here will walk you through it. Dont panic. It might be a surprise to you but this really is a friendly place with many people on standby to support you.

 

 

ok maybe you're right about the compound, how would i do this. do i get a script from my dr. and what do i tell him, do you have a pharmacy i can  used. 

[ChessieCat]

When you first started posting you were not typing in capitals.  You have only just started typing in capitals.  You did not make us aware that you have eye problems.  You response to my request about not typing in capitals is extremely rude.

 

As I have already explained to you by Private Message the moderators are all volunteers, we don't get paid.  We are doing this because we want to help people.  If you would like us to continue assisting you, please change your attitude and be more polite.

 

"everyone here on this board is not their best, but why have a board is you cannot get direct answers from anyone.  to asked a question its seem like its someone already post that question. why is this board running. can anyone tell me. if they can " 

 

You have posted the above whilst I have been typing.

 

everyone here on this board is not their best     The members, including the moderators, are experiencing their own withdrawal difficulties

 

to asked a question its seem like its someone already post that question     We have many members who need assistance and when the information is already available we refer the members to that information so that we don't waste time repeating what is already available.

 

why is this board running. can anyone tell me     This site was created by Altostrata after experiencing her own withdrawal issues.  This site has been running since 2012 and has been working well during this time.  There are guidelines that members are expected to follow.  The reason this site exists is because most of the medical profession do not recognise or understand that psychiatric drugs need to be tapered slowly.  Generally if a medical professional does recommend tapering it is very often too fast and the members who join here can get the information they need to taper safely and comfortably.

[ChessieCat]

Here is SA's topic on Compounding pharmacies

 

 

Edited September 3, 2017 by ChessieCat

[street129]

3 hours ago, nz11 said:

What do you think about the compounding pharmacy idea.

If you are unable to calc progressive iterations using 0.9 as a multiplier then maybe  a compound pharmacy may be the best option.

If you still want to go with the weigh your own approach then the good folk here will walk you through it. Dont panic. It might be a surprise to you but this really is a friendly place with many people on standby to support you.

 

 

hope i hear from you later to night,,,

[nz11]

1 hour ago, street129 said:

do you have a pharmacy i can  used. 

 

I think the best thing is to go and discuss this with your nearest pharmacist ...mines a rather long distance away. See what they say and how to proceed. Come back and share the conversation with us. If you have no joy then people here can make suggestions.

If the type on the computer is too hard for you to read can you zoom in on your computer ...i do that all the time.

[street129]

[street129]

On 9/1/2017 at 9:10 PM, ChessieCat said:

Here is a link to Tapering Calculator - Online

thanks for this im reading over my threads and only now understanding peoples point, i think  i  had brain fog

 

[street129]

15 hours ago, nz11 said:

 

I think the best thing is to go and discuss this with your nearest pharmacist ...mines a rather long distance away. See what they say and how to proceed. Come back and share the conversation with us. If you have no joy then people here can make suggestions.

If the type on the computer is too hard for you to read can you zoom in on your computer ...i do that all the time.

i

i copy the compound pharmacy link and will gave it my dr to read and do a script for my next taper

 

, i do have a phamarcy that i've been using for b12 years ago. mcguff's compoumd phamarcy,

[street129]

16 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

Here is SA's topic on Compounding pharmacies

 

 

thank you chessiecat!.....

i print copies of the  compound pharmacy link and will gave it my dr to read and do a script for my next taper 202.50mg

 

, i do have a phamarcy that i've been using for b12 years ago. mcguff's compoumd phamarcy,

[ChessieCat]

6 hours ago, street129 said:

thanks for this im reading over my threads and only now understanding peoples point, i think  i  had brain fog

 

When members first arrive at SA they are usually here because they suffering.  I had been experiencing very bad brain fog for 3 weeks when I started searching and found this site.  It can also be very overwhelming trying to read and understand the information as well as trying to work out what we should do.

 

Here are links to discussions on talking with the medical profession.  Instead of telling their doctor that they want to get off their drug they have said that they want to be on the lowest possible dose.  Being assertive without making out that we know better than the medical professional can make a big difference to whether they will be supportive of what we want to do.

 

How do you talk to a doctor about tapering and withdrawal?

What should I expect from my doctor about withdrawal symptoms?