Yulia1989 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Dear peer forum members, I am writing here searching for hope and your support and advice. My name is Yulia, I am 27 years old and I am from Russia. Here is my sad story. There was a unfortunate point in my life when I almost had given up due to the life situation. Therefore it happened so that I had to take Lexapro antidepressant not by my wish but by insistance of my parents. First time it was introduced it when I was in a psychiatric clinic - I was given phenasepam in glass drop water and 10mg of Lexapro.. for around 2 months. It was zombifying me, giving a flat emotional state and a brain fog. After I left the clinic - as I was not feeling good with Lexapro - I have cold turkeyed it without telling the doctor and parents because they would insist on continuing and increasing the dosage. Then when the doctor got to know - it was reinstated, 5 days with 5 mg and then 10.. the reaction of the was even worse but I continued. I cold turkeyed it again after 2 months.. I understand this sounds bizzare but at that point I was very weak and couldnt take my own individual decisions and was afraid to spoil relationships with parents who were my only closest people. I cannot imagine now how could I possibly be so careless with these drugs.. they are evil. I totally understand that agreeing for the drugs first and then quitting them was a big mistake. My problem is that cold turkeying left me with severe brain fog and cognitive issues - my problem now is that it is very hard to think (blank mind), generate ideas, make plans for the future.. I just dont have any thoughts, they just do not appear in mind.. When I try to concentrate - thoughts just disappear. When I try to make a decision or weight between two options - brain doesnt give an argument for one or another.. there is just nothing. This is catastrophy.. I feel I can do well when I am told what to do, but when I need to think myself, this just doesnt work.. I feel my learning abilities decreased and the memory is not that sharp as it was before (( So far 2 months have passed since I cold turkued Lexapro the second time. I do understand that I have totally screwed up the system by these meds but I pray to God to forgive me for this mistake and give me a chance to heal..Luckily I have a source of income with a remote work. In an attempt to recover I have turned to natural methods and detox - tried dry fasting (5 days) and water fasting (planned 21 day, but I was doing this under supervision and was allowed to do only full 19 days because of the weight loss). I quit it with 5 days on juices and today had a raw dinner. I feel that the cleanse was not complete, that I need to do more. I have researched the whole internet about healing and naturopathic methods same as about cleansing and drug withdrawals. I found Gerson therapy diet plans, raw vegan lifestyle, juice fasting etc. I plan to stick to all that, also physical exercise.I do plan running twice a day, they say it increases neurogenesis, drink distilled water to flush out the toxins and stay on juices. People do incredible things trying to recover - like 90 days juice fast etc. Please tell me - do I move in the right direction? Is the detoxification the key to reducing withdrawal effect? Or do I need supplimenting? Somehow I think that detox is the key... Shall I do an orange juice fast? Distilled water, sport - what does help? I would need any possible advice on how to help the brain recover and get rid of this horrible brain fog and blank mind as it is horrifying to live further life with such situation...I would appreciate any help. Kind regards, Yulia Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 6, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hi Yulia and welcome to SA, So that we are better able to offer suggestions please complete your drug signature. Please use the format in the instructions below. Please include dates: A request: Would you summarize your history in a signature - ALL drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly? Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. Link to Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature. This is your own Introduction topic where you can ask questions and journal your progress. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Dear peer members, I am trying to help my brain to recover with the help of nutrition plan. I am a bit confused - because on one hand it is recommended to take fish oil to help the withdrawal and on another hand - there is Gerson therapy that says - no oil, under no consequences... Could you please help, as I am pretty confused and dont know which plan to follow.. I do believe no oil plan helps detox, but how to foster neurogenesis after these nasty drugs? Really hope for your help.. Kind regards, Yulia Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 8, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi Yulia, Here is SA's topic on liver-cleansing-enemas-fasting-and-other-purification-methods See this post in particular. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
TheWayBack Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi Yulia Considering your state at this moment, I would suggest a reinstatement with a very small dose, like 1mg Lexapro. This *could* fix a lot of your withdrawal symptoms. If things are getting worse, do stop immediately. And taper very slow from there on. Before you attempt this, please inform yourself first. About Reinstatement You are not a lost cause! You will get better, no matter what you do. But reinstatement could make it a whole lot easier to handle and most likely in a shorter timespan. Origin of Panic Attack and Anxiety Disorder: Overdose of Hallucinogenic HOT-7. 2013-09 20mg escitalopram. In the 4 first months 0.5-1mg/day Alprazolam for sleep & difficult situations. Tapered the first time from 20mg to 0mg in 17 months or so. Withdrawal 6-8 weeks after last dose. Didn't taper enough to low enough doses (+-1mg). 2015-01-02 Back on 10mg after one week of delayed withdrawal. Stable in 8 days. Second time tapered 2 years from 10mg to 1.6mg. Stable for half a year in range 2.5mg-1.6mg. 2017-07-28 Measurement errors: went for 1-2 weeks on 2mg. Restlessness and anxiety. Tried back to go back to 1.7mg for 5 days. Anxiety stayed. 2017-08-03 - 2017-08-20 Switched to liquid Lexapro 20mg/ml (1 drop is 1mg). Updosed to 2mg hoping to stabilize. Horrible Panic and Anxiety. Hold for 17 days hoping to stabilize. Didn't work enough for me at the time. 2017-08-20 End of holiday approaching. No more time. Decision to up dose to 5mg escitalopram. Back to the pills. Tapering alprazolam. A lot of side effects: Akathisia, more anxiety, very troubling sleep, every thought and movement gave me panic attacks. Worst time of my life. I did learn coping skills in this period. A lot. Mastering meditation, mastering floating technique and more Claire Weekes stuff... Can handle extreme anxiety pretty decent now. 2017-09-30 Going down again because holding got worse almost every day. ADVICE TO OTHER ESCITALOPRAM PEOPLE, if updose doesn't work in two weeks, go down again!!! WD is not as brutal as adverse updose effects! After every taper (while tapering pretty manageable, after couple weeks holding, akathisia and extreme anxiety came back) 2018-01-29 Got to ZERO. A hard way down for sure. And now hoping for improvements along the way... Tapering melatonin gave me dystonic reactions however.14 months after zero: Alternating akathisia, dystonic reactions and WD. Very unstable. No meds whatsoever. 31 months after zero: dystonia got worse, still very high anxiety, and many symptoms... no healing in sight. Adverse reaction destroyed me. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus baroquep Posted September 8, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Hi Yulia, I'm not so sure that a reinstatement is the best approach to deal with your current situation. As you were only on Lexapro, from what I can tell, approximately four months, I believe that it would be better to deal with your current symptoms in a more holistic manner. Unfortunately, before we can provide you with advice specific to you, it would be very helpful if you could complete your withdrawal signature history so that the moderators have a better understanding of what your current situation is. If you could take a minute to complete your signature, the moderators will be able to provide you with more detailed information. Instructions: Withdrawal History SignatureAccount Settings – Create or Edit a signature Would you summarize your history in a signature - ALL drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly? Please leave out symptoms and diagnoses. A list is easier to understand than one or multiple paragraphs. Any drugs prior to 24 months ago can just be listed with start and stop years. Please use actual dates or approximate dates (mid-June, Late October) rather than relative time frames (last week, 3 months ago) Spell out months, e.g. "October" or "Oct."; 9/1/2016 can be interpreted as Jan. 9, 2016 or Sept. 1, 2016. For now, I would not recommend fasting or detoxing, particularly as this is just going to add more stress to your already stressed and destabilized central nervous system (CNS). It is important for you to have a well-balanced diet of plenty of protein, fats (including oils) and fresh produce. I am not familiar with Gerson therapy but imagine that without the proper nutritional building blocks, in particular protein, it would just add undue stress to your already fragile CNS. There is no known cure for withdrawal syndrome and only time and a good healthy diet is going to help your CNS to heal. If I were you, I would investigate non-drug coping strategies to help you deal with the stress both you and your body are under right now. It can oftentimes take many months to recover after what sounds like two short stints on Lexapro as well as discontinuing Lexapro twice so abruptly. It is never recommended to stop an anti-depressant abruptly, it is necessary to taper off of these drugs slowly so that the CNS can adapt to the changes in the brain. Please try not to panic, you are young and were only on Lexapro for a short time, if you take the steps to take good care of yourself by eating a healthy well-balanced diet and try to incorporate a few techniques to help you deal with the stress, you will speed up the healing of your central nervous system ten-fold and will start feeling better as time goes by. To give you an understanding of what is going on right now, I am attaching a couple of links that will help you to understand. Please be assured that what you are experiencing is completely normal under the circumstances and things will get better. What is Withdrawal Syndrome? What is Happening in Your Brain I am going to attach a few links for you to have a look at that will provide you with ideas on some of the strategies you can use to deal with the emotional stress it sounds like you are under right now. Omega 3 fatty acids and magnesium seem to help many people in withdrawal for relaxation and to help calm the mind and I would encourage you to see if these supplements might benefit you. Symptoms & Self Care Claire Weekes' Method of Recovering from a Sensitized Nervous System Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Guided Meditations, Calming Videos, Sleep Hypnosis Edited September 8, 2017 by baroquep Current Prescription Drugs for Hypothyroidism: Synthroid 100mcg / Cytomel 5mcg (15 years Pristiq/Effexor)Tapering Schedule September 15, 2016 - switched from Pristiq 50mg to Effexor XR 75mg; November 10, 2016 - reduced to 67.5 Effexor XR December 9, 2016 - reduced 60.75 January 5, 2017 - reduced 54.67 January 30, 2017 - reduced to 49.0 February 20, 2017 - reduced to 44.0 May 20, 2017 - reduced to 40.25 (holding for additional month due to late onset of withdrawal symptoms after this taper) July 17, 2017 - reduced to 38.24 August 15, 2017 - reduced to 37.5 (50% of my original dose) October 15, 2017 - reduced to 35.6 November 12, 2017 - reduced to 33.8 December 15, 2017 - up-dose to 35.6 December 28, 2017 - up-dose to 37.5 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 8, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 8, 2017 baroquep has provided you with a lot of excellent information. When trying anything new it is better to test them one at at time, starting with a low dose and building up before adding in a new one, just in case you have a bad reaction. Here are the SA topics discussing: MagnesiumOmega-3 Fish Oil * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted September 9, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 9, 2017 Hey Yulia - I will chime in - I think that Gerson is excellent protocol for life threatening cancers. The vitamins & minerals provided by the juices are excellent - but you will find here that we are extremely cautious even about vitamins. And there is no fat. You need fat to heal. But I do not think that detox will help you - and may, in fact harm you. The problem is not that you are toxic, the problem is that the drugs have changed your brain, your nervous system, your endocrine system and probably your digestive system, too. To add a detox protocol on top of trying to re-regulate your nervous system - could be quite a shock. Your brain needs fats and oils in order to heal. In addition to fish oil, I added coconut oil to my diet, and eat eggs (whcih Gerson doesn't use, either) to make sure that my brain is getting enough cholesterol and fat to maintain a steady mood. Slow and steady - hang in there. This will pass (it may seem like forever, but it will pass). Once you get healed, and are outside of any withdrawal symptoms, you can try cleansing diets. It is not too late to accept a tiny reinstatement - but only if your symptoms are unbearable. You will heal the same, but the symptoms can be eased by reinstatement. If you can, as Baroqup suggests, hang in there and use Non Drug Techniques for Coping with Emotional Symptoms, this will pass. I hope you see the sun today! "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Lost emotions/humanity, blank mind after celexa, what to do? Dear fellow sufferers, friends, I desperately need your advice... After the last drug Celexa I am left with a disability - total depersonalization, blank mind and complete loss of emotions (( It was only 2 weeks of Celexa, 4 days 5 mg, 6 days 10mg, then 5-5-2,5mg - off... I cannot perform cognitive tasks that require thinking, I basically have total absense of thoughts and cannot take any decisions even about treatment because there is no weighting of choices and I feel nothing towards anything (( I can only do simple tasks on instruction, I can handle conversations and talk but that is all. When left with cognitive task - I am useless, I get the blank mind...cannot plan things... The inability to feel my heart, emotions is the most painful but I dont feel the pain... Its like a heavy fog is put on my brain and heart and it sticks there. My treatment was really cruel, chaotic and disordered and was performed in atmosphere of stress, fear and pressure. Cant believe they did it to me. Cant believe I didnt run when I could. Now is a total collapse, I dont know what to do and left alone with this. I cannot even feel grief due to my condition as I dont feel anything. I will not be able to wait years till it passes as I am in Russia as life here is fast paced and will only destroy me. I cannot just sit and wait till it passes.. I stay at home, only benefiting from the money I earned when I was capable of things. I used to have a brilliant intelligence with 2 universities graduation and working abroad... but now... its garbage ((( Please please, could you recommend anything that would ease the condition, as least giving me some thoughts or enabling to feel any slight possibility of an emotion.One of the specialists suggested Lamictal/lamotrigine as it is believed to work with a depersonalization but I am a bit hesisitant as it probably slowers nervous system even more and I am slowered to a maximum extent... I would probably need something activating but I cannot think at all to find a solution, searching for solutions require thinking... Anyone who experienced an easy of symptoms, any thoughts occuring etc.. I try to understand - do I need another SSRI or have to avoid serotonin? I was told - cognition is ruled by dopamine, noradrenaline and acetilcholine, so should it be a drug with this profile? I understand this is all very value but I need any slight sign of hope... I am afraid taking magnesium and fish oil wont be a solution at this stage.. I am afraid one more hospitalization to a new hospital as suggested might be fatal for me. I am only 32, I cannot believe this is an end. You are the last community I can hope for as local doctors have no wish to dive deep and find the cause... Please help... History: Cymbalta 30mg, increase to 60mg Effexor - 1 week 37,5mg, felt extreme derealization went off Got hospitalized, got: Quetiapin 3 days Reagila - 1,5mg, 1 week, severe depersonalization, taken off. Brintellix - 5 to 20mg 23.09.21 to 21.10.21. Severe apathy, brain fog.. Taken off 10mg cold turkey on 21.10. Got hospitalized again: Olanzapine Luvox, 150mg - slowed speech Went off 50mg CT Last - Celexa - 4 days 5mg, 5 days 10mg, 5mg-5mg-2,5mg, off. Not taking anything since 05.02.2022. Desperate and dont know what to do. Edited February 19, 2022 by ChessieCat added topic title before merging with intro topic Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
LizzieTish Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 @Yulia1989. I'm so sorry you're suffering. Hang in there until one of the Moderators can give you some expert advice. My guess is that you may have tapered too quickly. Hugs and prayers 🙏 from New Hampshire, USA. Lexapro: 2002-2006 (dose unknown) Sertraline: 2006-April 2021 (50 mg/day) with exception of 2 failed discontinuation attempts in previous 5 years. April - Aug 2021 (25 mg/day [half tablet]). Experienced flu-like symptoms in April. Also experienced insomnia and rage/irritability, which eventually subsided. Sept 2021 - Jan 2022 (12.5 mg/day [quarter tablet]). Feb 1-12, 2022 (~10 mg/day). Experienced depression and new onset acute anxiety. Discovered SA.org and realized I was tapering too fast. Feb 13, 2022, dose increased back to 12.5 mg/day to mitigate symptoms. April 2022 (~10 mg/day; switched to liquid formulation). May 2022 (~9 mg/day). Jun-Jul 2022 (~8 mg/day). Aug 2022 (~7 mg/day). Oct 2022 (~6.5 mg/day). Nov 2022 (~6 mg/day). Dec 2022 (~5 mg/day). Holding dose for at least 2-3 months due to crying spells and poor appetite/weight loss. Began taking Mg and fish oil supplements. March 17, 2023 - increased dose to 6 mg/day. Feeling better. May 17, 2023 - decreased dose to 5.5 mg/day. July 22, 2023 - still haven't stabilized. Experiencing excruciating and unrelenting suffering. July 28, 2023 - increased dose to 6/6.5 mg/day August 2, 2023 - increased dose to 7 mg/day due to persistent dread and panic attacks. October 2023 - increased dose to 10 mg/day. January 2024 - Still feel bad despite 10 mg/day dose. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Thank you lots dear Lizzie, I really hope so.... as I'm clueless.. this condition started on the drug and only persisted after withdrawal Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
LizzieTish Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 I just joined a few days ago and wish I could give you sound advice but I'm still learning. The Moderate @Onmyway has been so helpful to me. Perhaps you should contact her? Best wishes 💗. Lexapro: 2002-2006 (dose unknown) Sertraline: 2006-April 2021 (50 mg/day) with exception of 2 failed discontinuation attempts in previous 5 years. April - Aug 2021 (25 mg/day [half tablet]). Experienced flu-like symptoms in April. Also experienced insomnia and rage/irritability, which eventually subsided. Sept 2021 - Jan 2022 (12.5 mg/day [quarter tablet]). Feb 1-12, 2022 (~10 mg/day). Experienced depression and new onset acute anxiety. Discovered SA.org and realized I was tapering too fast. Feb 13, 2022, dose increased back to 12.5 mg/day to mitigate symptoms. April 2022 (~10 mg/day; switched to liquid formulation). May 2022 (~9 mg/day). Jun-Jul 2022 (~8 mg/day). Aug 2022 (~7 mg/day). Oct 2022 (~6.5 mg/day). Nov 2022 (~6 mg/day). Dec 2022 (~5 mg/day). Holding dose for at least 2-3 months due to crying spells and poor appetite/weight loss. Began taking Mg and fish oil supplements. March 17, 2023 - increased dose to 6 mg/day. Feeling better. May 17, 2023 - decreased dose to 5.5 mg/day. July 22, 2023 - still haven't stabilized. Experiencing excruciating and unrelenting suffering. July 28, 2023 - increased dose to 6/6.5 mg/day August 2, 2023 - increased dose to 7 mg/day due to persistent dread and panic attacks. October 2023 - increased dose to 10 mg/day. January 2024 - Still feel bad despite 10 mg/day dose. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 19, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Yulia1989 said: History: Cymbalta 30mg, increase to 60mg Effexor - 1 week 37,5mg, felt extreme derealization went off Got hospitalized, got: Quetiapin 3 days Reagila - 1,5mg, 1 week, severe depersonalization, taken off. Brintellix - 5 to 20mg 23.09.21 to 21.10.21. Severe apathy, brain fog.. Taken off 10mg cold turkey on 21.10. Got hospitalized again: Olanzapine Luvox, 150mg - slowed speech Went off 50mg CT Please provide the dates for the above. Thank you. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 19, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Yulia1989 said: Last - Celexa - 4 days 5mg, 5 days 10mg, 5mg-5mg-2,5mg, off. Not taking anything since 05.02.2022. Desperate and dont know what to do. Please state the date you STARTED Celexa. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted February 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2022 Hi @Yulia1989, we really need to know your drug history with dates (as best as you can) so that we are able to advise - our advice will be different depending on whether this happened now or four years ago. It seems from your description that you may have had adverse effects to these drugs and you are very sensitive to various drugs. Can you tell us what your current symptoms are? Once you can give us this information we can try to help you get some respite. Hope you are feeling better soon. OMW 1 "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 Dear OnMyWay and ChessieCat, Thank you lots for your kind reply... I am most worried for the situation happened this time - as from May 2021... My main concern what to do since celexa discontinuation - I practically dont feel anything and cant think, make initiative and organize my life. I am physically healthy, having a good sleep but the brain health is disastrous as well as my daily life routines. I have tried to list the dates as precise as I could... I would be so extremely grateful for your advice on what to do... would a new drug and a regular stable intake give a chance of or do I need just wait... I wouldnt want to reinstate to be honest as I remember that terrible but the trouble is that living in this condition is impossible as I have impaired thinking and blank mind...imaginanation visuals are very weak. Is blank mind treatable at all? Please see below... I wish to bring my life and treatment in order. At least as much as I could... May-August 2021 Cymbalta 30mg- increased to 60mg, taken CT from 60mg 24.08.2021 - 31.08.2021 Effexor - 1 week 37,5mg, felt extreme derealization went off 9 September 2021 - got hospitalized, got: 11.09 Quetiapin 3 days 14.09 Reagila - 1,5mg, 1 week, severe depersonalization, taken off. 23.09.21 to 21.10.21 Brintellix - 5 to 20mg. Severe apathy, brain fog.. Taken off 10mg cold turkey on 21.10. 29.11.2021 - got hospitalized again, given: 29.11.2021-13.12.2021 Olanzapine, 5mg Luvox, 50mg-100mg 24.12.2022 - Luvox increased to 150mg - slowered speech 27.12.2022 - Luvox 100mg 05.01.2022 Went off 50mg CT. Withdrawal anxiety daily plus disbalanced nervous system. 21.01.2022 - 04.02.2022 Celexa - 4 days 5mg, 6 days 10mg, 5mg-5mg-5mg-2,5mg, off. Foggy mind, uncapable to concentrate, severe emotional blunting Not taking anything since 05.02.2022. Desperate and dont know what to do. Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 20, 2022 Administrator Share Posted February 20, 2022 @Yulia1989 for what reason did you pursue additional drug treatment in May 2021? How did you feel while you were taking Cymbalta? Why did you go off 60mg cold-turkey? Since you kept going back for more drugs, would it be correct to assume none of these drugs "worked"? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 That was a mistake of my life to do so...but I was trapped in a situation. I was guided by the wrong psychiatrist who practiced these severe methods and could not resist. None of these drugs worked in fact, only created additional problems.. But I only need one last hope to recover and understand what should I do now, after Celexa and rest feeling brain dead and emotionless... is catastrophic, when I try to think in dynamics, my central nervous system just crashes.. as Im basically frozen - mental and emotional block. Please please tell me, would an introduction of a new medicine and staying steady on it stabilize the system and if yes, what could it be? I wont be able to live long with this damage. I would be very much grateful for your kind attention and advice... Kind regards, Yulia Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
panphyni Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Hello! I'm new myself so I definitely don't feel like I can give solid advice - but from what it looks like you've been kinda jumping around with the medication a lot (I'm too in a situation with too many changes in my opinion), and my body needs to adapt to things. You should definitely stop going CT so many times, if possible !! Especially with those drugs it takes time to have an effect and balance out, maybe you should stay on something for a while until you are fine again? The initial period is always the worst... I think some guidance would really benefit you, be it a doctor (hopefully empathetic) or going on some form of health cure where you have time to heal for a little bit and sort things out? I'm really sorry you are going through this, sending you love - hang on, things will be better eventually. 🌸 2011: Sertralin (50mg) and Mirtabene (??mg) in a mental hospital not sure about the dosage, as they were just given to us 2012: stopped Mirtabene, Sertralin went up to 100mg time in between 2011 and 2017 is unfortunately very blurry 2017: > first attempt (CT) failed, reinstated on 50mg (?) > switch to Escitalopram (5mg, upping to 10mg) 2018: > failed another attempt (CT?), back to Escitalopram (10mg). > Escitalopram (5mg), added Bupropion (150mg) best so far! 2021: > May: Escitalopram down to 2,5mg, October: back to 5mg > December: Exchange of Escitalopram (5mg) with Duloxetin (30mg, up to 60mg, down to 0); Bupropion 300mg --> led to complete crash, still stuck to it 2022: > February: Microdosing truffles (1mg) twice > 6th March: reinstating 1,25mg Escitalopram > 14th March: 2,5mg Escitalopram + 300mg Bupropion > 10th April: 2,5mg escitalopram + 150mg Bupropion Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 23, 2022 Administrator Share Posted February 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Yulia1989 said: feeling brain dead and emotionless... is catastrophic, when I try to think in dynamics, my central nervous system just crashes.. as Im basically frozen - mental and emotional block. Is this a description of your current symptoms? Please explain further. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Altostrata said: Is this a description of your current symptoms? Please explain further. Dear Alto, yes... body-wise all ok, my I just cant feel and think, cannot make a plan, I feel like dead... I can have a conversation but I practically have no thoughts and emotions. There is nothing in my heart. I lie in bed all the time. Plus the growing stress of possible job loss and disability.. I tend to agree with @panphyni (thank you!) that its all because of so many different drugs and CT.. maybe it could be a solution to choose a drug and stay on it long term but after so many trials Im so scared to start though i dont feel it. But what could it be? And is there a chance to reverse the damage? Trouble is, I am afraid of serotonin drugs now but if not them, what could it be... I am only afraid that not doing anything might not be the best solution as I stress out because of this condition and there is a big pressure from relatives to go to get treatment again. I am not in a proper setting for healing... one cannot get well in the same environment where he got sick.. Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 19 hours ago, panphyni said: Hello! I'm new myself so I definitely don't feel like I can give solid advice - but from what it looks like you've been kinda jumping around with the medication a lot (I'm too in a situation with too many changes in my opinion), and my body needs to adapt to things. You should definitely stop going CT so many times, if possible !! Especially with those drugs it takes time to have an effect and balance out, maybe you should stay on something for a while until you are fine again? The initial period is always the worst... I think some guidance would really benefit you, be it a doctor (hopefully empathetic) or going on some form of health cure where you have time to heal for a little bit and sort things out? I'm really sorry you are going through this, sending you love - hang on, things will be better eventually. 🌸 Thank you millions for this..... Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted February 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2022 Dear @Yulia1989, in your case every new drug that you have taken has made you worse from what you are telling us and you have taken both serotonin drugs, and antipsychotics (quetiepine, olanzapine). It may indicate that your system is sensitized and new drugs to mitigate withdrawal symptoms will be counterproductive. In either case we are not a forum that advises on drug changes/switches/additions. Our purpose it to help people get off their psychiatric drugs without harm or minimal harm if and when they want to do that. We may suggest drug addition to mitigate withdrawal symptoms such as reinstatement but not for 'treating' some perceived diagnosis. That is the job of your treating doctor. You may also wish to see this thread and search in the symptoms and care forum about any of your symptoms. Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms - Symptoms and self-care - Surviving Antidepressants Hope this helps, OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Sofa Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 @Yulia1989 How are you doing? I have the exact same symptoms. Cant Feel any emotions, blank mind, serious cognitive decline. Also have tinnitus, akathisia and insomnia. Symptoms worsened after taking mirtazapine/Remeron on and off during christmas, and the symptoms keep getting worse unfortunatly. June-July -21 Zyprexa 2.5-7.5 mg July -21 Mianserin 20 mg four days July-Aug -21 Valium 30 mg a day, tapred, return of symptoms Aug-Oct -21 Oxazepam Tapred from 10 mg x 3 to zero Dec-Jan -21/22 On and off mirtazapine 15 mg. Kindling reaction? March 8.-19. - Zopiclone 7.5 mg to combat insomnia March 20 - 5 mg valium because of akathisia and panic April 3. - 5 mg x 2 Link to comment
Ariel Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 @Yulia1989 How are you feeling? Thinking of you, well wishes, A. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Thanks dear Ariel… not well sadly.. numb and foggy mind, cant think and act.. only existing Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Ariel Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 9:00 PM, Yulia1989 said: Thanks dear Ariel… not well sadly.. numb and foggy mind, cant think and act.. only existing I'm sorry to hear that, @Yulia1989 I am sending well wishes for your healing. I hope you feel better soon. A. 1996-2018 - misc. polypharmacy, incl. SSRIs, SNRIs, neuroleptics, lithium, benzos, stimulants, antihistamines, etc. (approx. 30+ drugs) 2012-2018 - 10mg lexapro/escitalopram (20mg?) Jan. 2018 - 10mg -> 5mg, then from 5mg -> 2.5mg, then 0mg --> July 2018 - 0mg 2017(?)-2020 - vyvanse/lisdexamfetamine 60-70mg 2020-2021 - 70mg down to 0mg --> July 2021 - 0mg March-April 2021 - vortioxetine 5-10mg (approx. 7 weeks total; CT) --> April 28th, 2021 - 0mg supplements: magnesium powder (dissolved in water) as needed throughout the day; 1 tsp fish oil w/ morning meal; 2mg melatonin August 1, 2022 - 1 mg melatonin Courage is fear that has said its prayers. - Karle Wilson Baker love and justice are not two. without inner change, there can be no outer change; without collective change, no change matters. - Rev. angel Kyodo williams Holding multiple truths. Knowing that everyone has their own accurate view of the way things are. - text on homemade banner at Afiya house I am not a medical professional; this is not medical advice. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 17, 2022 Administrator Share Posted May 17, 2022 @Yulia1989 what drugs are you taking now, at what times o'clock and dosages? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 @Altostrata Alto, I did a deadly mistake of taking Zoloft for 2 weeks right 2 weeks ago... max dose was 50 mg... It was evil. Two weeks not taking anything - since 2 May... but the condition is unbelivably bad... i never actually thought it could be that bad - feeling completely void, nothing... very blank mind and emotions, very depersonalized, lost my personality - basically no nerves, nerves burned out... I dont know how it is even possible to have the nerves burned out... I couldnt choose a colour of a toy I wanted to buy.. My parents want me to go to hospital - I dont even feel my attitude towards it because Im so void. No anxiety, no depression, just nothing. I spend days in my flat all alone. I cant think and work. I can read, speak properly, understand texts but I cant think, plan, analyze - all is some fog.. I want to self-organize and be disciplined somehow but Im falling into lethargy all the time, being blank I forget what to do. And I dont feel whats right or wrong anymore...whats good or bad for me... I am very calm now actually.. but severely disfunctional. And being suicidal in fact. Alto, what to do? I'm scared of taking more meds but Im completely disfunctional, completely...chaotic, messy... I know stabilizing on something and making a very slow taper could be a solution but I dont know it the hospital now would be a dead end station. But staying like this I am dying as well because Im all alone, parents left me and people I knew too.. Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 Honestly if I had only one chance... only one last chance for healthy brain... If i get to the hospital, it might be very toxic with diasepam and rest.. But with this loneliness and being abandoned and disability, lack of routine...i am ceasing too (((((( Now the problem is - I cant follow something long... I take one supplement, go to one training, do one shot of something.. I cannot be consistent because of this damage.. I am at a point of giving up, but something deep inside me would crave for intelligence and soul.... which are destroyed now... can one raise up after such severe trauma or that is it.. Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 20, 2022 Administrator Share Posted May 20, 2022 I'm at a loss about what to suggest, @Yulia1989 We don't have any cure for protracted withdrawal here. You're going on and off drugs repeatedly makes your situation even more complicated. If you're sleeping regularly, that's a good sign. We would suggest doing the best you can and allowing very gradual recovery rather than intermittent drug experiments. Be sure to get at least a half-hour of gentle exercise every day; keep regular hours;, drink plenty of water; eat good, fresh food; no alcohol or artificial ingredients. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Hi, i feel the same like you. Are you better now. I think I lost my mind on this medications I feel like I have 100 different personalities. I can not think at all, or I have 1000 different thoughts. Running thoughts. I don’t how to think or to feel. I m so confused. Link to comment
Yulia1989 Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Hey… no. How do you cope?.. Lexapro withdrawal survivor... Was given 10mg Lexapro for 2 months in the psychiatric clinic by insistance of relatives- March, April 2017. When got off the clinic - quitted it cold turkey as created brain fog and emotional anaestasia. Then was pushed to to reinstate it - took again 10mg for 2 months - May, June 2017. Cold turkeyed again. Now suffering from brain fog, blank mind and cognitive impairment. Please help. Link to comment
Roserdl Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 It's time and waiting to stabilize. People do heal but it takes time. It is hard not to be tempted to try new things. I reinstated my cold turkey drug and have seen partial stabalization but the moderators state it can be significant time for full stabilization. It is so beyond hard. I also have limited emotional range and some lingering physical issues. I am seeing slow improvements. I try to get sun walk in woods and do positive affirmations. Hard to keep faith with no known end date. Also wondering if I did right thing by reinstating but considering how many symptoms improved by doing so, I may be doing much better than I would otherwise. Only thing that got much worse is apathy. All the rest improved or stayed the same. You can heal. There are multiple cold turkey stories off multiple cocktails who did. I struggle with measuring progress on a daily basis which is stupid. Recent 2018 Zoloft 150mg (20 years taking at various times, no real issues before stopping) 2019 Risperdal one month low dose (forget amount) stopped bad reaction 2019 Remeron 7.5 mg sleep (discontinued in mid 2019) on for six months (tapered for a few weeks) Zoloft 100 mg Summer 2020/Zoloft 75 mg Summer 2021 Zoloft 50 mg November 2021/ Zoloft 25 mg First two weeks January 2022: Reinstated 50 mgJanuary Last week) Crash in February - on and off doses as doctors conflicted over serotonin syndrome/withdrawal - stopped all for two week & resumed:\ Other drugs tried in hospitals (Abilify, 1mg, 1 dose, Zyprexa 1 dose 1mg, Klonopin .25 4 doses in 2 hospitalizations) March 1 titrated Zoloft up from 0 to 65 from February to Early May Severe vision problems at 65 mg (improved depression) Taper to 55 6/15, 45mg 7/15/ 35mg 8/1, 25mg 8/15, 10 mg, 8/31 OFF 9/2022 Omg Improved with drops from August to September - November crash ONE dose Zoloft 3mg 11/17 - worsened symptoms - Remain off Zoloft Mirtazapine -3.5 mg six weeks mid march to end april, occasionally for sleep Supplements: Fish oil, magnesium, lions mane, cytokine suppress, MCT Oil Link to comment
Guest Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 11:49 PM, Altostrata said: I'm at a loss about what to suggest, @Yulia1989 We don't have any cure for protracted withdrawal here. You're going on and off drugs repeatedly makes your situation even more complicated. If you're sleeping regularly, that's a good sign. We would suggest doing the best you can and allowing very gradual recovery rather than intermittent drug experiments. Be sure to get at least a half-hour of gentle exercise every day; keep regular hours;, drink plenty of water; eat good, fresh food; no alcohol or artificial ingredients. Are these normal WD syntoms? Will that go away? What are the experience? Any Tipps. Link to comment
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