Kristine: not alone

[Frogie]

Hi Kristine:

 

Just wanted to stop by and say hi.

 

Hope you are feeling a little better.

 

Have a great day!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Kristine]

Hi Frogie,  I'm on the average side but pushing through. In the middle of moving house...or should I say everyone else is packing and I'm trying to stay out of the way!!! My lack of strength and trembling hands are not helpful. Already broken several items, so I'm on the sidelines.  I'll come and visit your page soon. K

[Downbutnotout]

I knew you would feel better. Glad to hear it. 

[Frogie]

23 minutes ago, Kristine said:

Hi Frogie,  I'm on the average side but pushing through. In the middle of moving house...or should I say everyone else is packing and I'm trying to stay out of the way!!! My lack of strength and trembling hands are not helpful. Already broken several items, so I'm on the sidelines.  I'll come and visit your page soon. K

I'm glad you are at least average. I read that you were moving so your house could be remodeled.

Be great when you get time to visit my page.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Kristine]

 

4 hours ago, Downbutnotout said:

I knew you would feel better. Glad to hear it.

Thank you D,  Not surprisingly ive been hit with a bad headache.  I've resorted to lying down under a tree with an eye mask on too block out the light and stay out of everyone's way.  Everyone has been amazing with this house move and I am so grateful.  I am also grateful it is summer and I am able to be outside during this process.  It's a lovely tree to focus on my breathing and try to stay calm!  Hopefully a bird doesn't poo on me!  Hugs to you D. K 🌻

[Downbutnotout]

It’s 9 degrees in Ohio. You wouldn’t be sitting under a tree here. You are such an inspiration. If I ever recover, you will be my first story on my new blog. 

[Kristine]

Hi All.....'Beyond Blue' is the largest Australian government funded mental health support and information service.  This is what they have to say about the side effects of antidepressant's.  This is a direct copy and past from the website.

 

"Antidepressants can make you feel better, but they won't change your personality or make you feel happy all the time. Like taking any other medication, some people will experience some side effects. Depending on which medication is taken, common side effects can include nausea, headaches, anxiety, sweating, dizziness, agitation, weight gain, dry mouth and sexual difficulties (e.g. difficulty becoming/staying aroused).

Some of these symptoms can be short-lived, but people who experience any of these symptoms should tell their doctor, as there are ways of minimising them. The likelihood of a particular side effect happening varies between individuals and medications."

😳😳😳

Why don't they just say 'if you speak to your doctor about these symptoms they will probably prescribe another drug to treat it' 

 

[Kristine]

18 minutes ago, Longestroadhome said:

Beyond Blue have no idea!

Hi LRH...it is so concerning that if Australians searching for help on the web they will, most likely,  be directed to 'beyond blue'....the information is so misguided.  Here's another quote directed at vulnerable adolescents....

 

"The decision to start taking antidepressants is made in consultation with a doctor, after careful assessment and consideration. Your doctor will be able to talk through with you which is the best medication for you. Once you start taking antidepressant medication, it can take at least two weeks before you'll start to feel better, and in the beginning, some of your symptoms might feel worse.

Regular check-ups are important, especially in the first four weeks of starting antidepressants. Any decision to stop taking medication must be discussed with your doctor, as stopping suddenly can make your depression worse."

 

Grrrrrr. K

[kesh]

Hey Kristine, saw you'd been watching The Crown on Netflix. Watched it the last couple of days to distract myself. Not nearly as bad as I thought. I mostly watch cosy, warm-hearted things, not people being unpleasant to each other like those royals were. Poor Margaret. Apparently the Queen watched the show too.

[JS11]

Hi K., 

 

It is just so very disheartening.  Hard day yesterday with some of those dreaded demons.  Spoke with my Pych, who, although very supportive, still offered me a pill.  I told her I had been on many pills, but I think the belief is just not the right one.  No more, no more, no more.

take care,

JS

[JanCarol]

Hey K!

 

On 10/01/2018 at 1:06 PM, RealMe said:

 I ate two pieces of bacon

 

Nitrates, nitrites.  Preservatives.  But with tinnitus, who knows?

On 11/01/2018 at 8:17 AM, JS11 said:

room temperature is better.  Something about the Chi, but can't remember what.  

 

This is true for Chinese medicine and Ayurveda.  You should take in water the temperature of your body.  To take it in colder is a shock to the system, and can slow down(? unsure) metabolism.  This aids with digestion.  And you hydrate better when you take in body-temperature water, because cells shrink when the cold strikes them.

I remember when I was going through my Ayurveda phases in the 90's, I would take warm water with ginger and turmeric.  That phase didn't last long, and moving to Australia absolutely killed it, where water must be served at near frozen to be tasty and refreshing.  (to shock the non-Aussies here - Aussies sometimes put ice in wine, because it isn't cold enough!)

I've come around to figuring that drinking lots of water is good, regardless of temperature.

 

On 11/01/2018 at 8:17 AM, JS11 said:

Sorry to bring up the topic of eliminating more foods, but the nightshades were mentioned.  Potatoes and tomatoes  were mentioned. 

 

Tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant.  It's not about eliminating everything - but paying attention to what you are sensitive to.

 

If you have a lot of pain and inflammation, the nightshades might have to go.  It's recommended to eliminate them for allergies, skin disorders, arthritis, or anything that could be considered inflammation.

I don't freak out about them, never have (they were the easiest to eliminate when I did a FODMAPS elimination), so if one slips in, all good.

Interesting about tomatoes - you might only react to raw ones.  Cooking them brews up a nice lycopene, which is a superb antioxidant (also found in watermelon).

 

On 11/01/2018 at 12:41 PM, Kristine said:

In Australia there is a mental health campaign called "Are you ok? Day".  I loathe it.  If I ask someone if they are ok.....I really want to know.  However, I have been asked that question many times and I have witnessed the glaze forming over the questioners eyes as they start to shuffle uncomfortably in their own skin.  Now, with most people, I answer.... "I'm fine, and you?"

 

Oh Lordy!  That's the crux of the biscuit!  I went to the dentist this week, and the chirpy dental assistant asked me if anything exciting was happening.  

Welllllllllll, I survived last week, and I hope to survive this week.....so I just stayed silent.  Fortunately, hubby had just been in and told her about our upcoming travels, so she babbled on about that.  I remember another time she asked me, "why do depressed people have trouble brushing heir teeth?"  I said, "All consuming self-loathing."  AWKWARD.

But yes, it's become "protocol" for shopkeepers to ask you how your day is going - what the eff are you supposed to say?  

There's the thing we used to do in karate, when the sensei would ask, "How are we tonight?" and we were to shout enthusiastically, "Excellent, Sensei!"  Failure to do so would result in a harder workout.  

So I can just enthusiastically call up the "Excellent" answer, one which hubby uses alot, or he will say, "Extra good."  

I have a friend in the US who says, "About half."  I'm not sure how that would go over in this chirpy country!  Where did Australia find all of these upbeat cheerful people?  But at least that's an honest answer!

 

On 11/01/2018 at 12:46 PM, JS11 said:

My idea of wealth would be to have my own personal chef. 

 

YAR!  Me too!  With all kinds of delectable ingredients like they show on the TV.  (I actually refuse to watch "food porn," as I call it because they source these exotic ingredients from all over the world.  Jamie Oliver is good, because he mostly uses ordinary ingredients to make the most amazing things.  Ultimate wealth = Jamie Oliver as my personal chef!

 

On 12/01/2018 at 8:59 AM, Longestroadhome said:

Australian woman initially diagnosed with post natal depression and then subjected to years of medical abuse from psychiatry

 

Ah HAH - I read about this book in Katinka Blackford Newman's "The Pill That Steals Lives" (GREAT READ) and reading this sentence bothered me until I found it:

Rebekah Beddoe:  "Dying for a Cure"

 

I still haven't read it - my local library does not have it (but they do have "The Pill That Steals Lives").  I've heard it's compelling reading!

 

Kristine, I'm sorry to hear about your headaches.  I really am seeing a lot of wheat in your diet - sandwich wraps, sandwiches, sultana bran...it would be easier to eliminate that than go the whole FODMAPS route to find out what is hard for you.  Wheat is not what it used to be.  In the 60's the redesigned wheat and doubled or tripled yields per acre with this dwarf wheat.  When they did this, they tripled the number of chromosomes in the wheat protein, which is not the same as the wheat your grandmother used to bake bread with.  That's why I mentioned "artisanal wheat."  It is generally inflammatory - and not just about celiac, either.  

You might have a few options, one is to test yourself for  FODMAPS.  The only way to do this is to eliminate them to see if it helps.  Then, you add them back in to see what you react to.  Doing this, I found that wheat and dairy are much more problematic for me than artichokes, asparagus, onions and garlic.  
https://www.ibsdiets.org/fodmap-diet/fodmap-food-list/

The other thing to consider might be a more paleo approach.  I would never advocate a die-hard full-on paleo diet, but eliminating grains from the diet simplifies your food a lot.  I still eat lentils and beans, and a few cultivars like corn and nuts.  One of the things that a paleo diet does is eliminate blood sugar spikes, which are too common in a typical Western diet.

Feverfew extract might be helpful - but probably not as effective as Mersyndol.  Better stock up now, it will cease to be over-the-counter as of 1 Feb, 2018.

Just don't complain to a doctor, or they will put you on an SSRI for migraines.

 

On 12/01/2018 at 1:46 PM, Kristine said:

Forgot to mention..vertigo +++ it concerns me I also have it when horizontal in bed...just move my head slightly (left or right) and the whole world spins. Awful.  Does anyone else get horizontal vertigo?

 

Not me, but - think about those pendulums swinging back and forth for each of your systems.  This sounds like a very "normal" (ugh, is there anything normal about these drugs?) withdrawal effect.

This, too, will pass.

 

It also sounds a bit like a migraine effect.  

 

On 13/01/2018 at 9:00 AM, Longestroadhome said:

I mix it with liquorice root

 

I agree with Longestroadhome about herbal teas, I love them!  My tea cabinet has herbs like catnip, chamomile, lotus, green tea, Guayusa (a South American mate), Hawthorn, Jasmine, Lavender, Lemon Balm, Mate, Passionflower, Rosemary, Saffron (yum!), Sage and Tulsi.  I've got a crazy wild tea cabinet, and blend my own for flavour and effect.

 

The only one I do not recommend to folks here is licorice.   It has a cardiac effect and can induce anxiety and/or palpitations.  I found it in some herbal sleep aids by Suisse, and oh my, those stronger doses of it were alarming!  It's a good adrenal tonic (like Tulsi and Ashwaganda) but it does have that cardiac effect.

 

I find that "food amounts" - like tea, or spices in your food - of healing herbs and spices are generally safe.  But - hey - you're in withdrawal, you might react to anything!

 

On 13/01/2018 at 9:49 AM, Kristine said:

 There are clinic all over Australia to support people withdrawing from illicit drugs such as heroine and crystal meth, as there should be.  However, we are left to navigate our own path, flopping about like fish in a drying up river bed!  Thank God, for SA

 

It's going to get worse, as these people withdrawing from illicit drugs are often prescribed the "legal ones."  

There will be a new wave of prescriptions when they make codeine "prescription only" next month.  People will go to their doctors, and the doctors, being instructed that codeine is addicting (it is, but it is the least addicting of any of the opiates - and - give me opiate withdrawal any day over SSRI/SNRI or benzo withdrawal!), will first offer anti-convulsants like Lyrica & Neurontin (please refuse), or SSRI/SNRI's to stop you complaining about the pain.  

Lyrica has been handed out like candy here, and it's a bothersome drug (yet another reason not to complain to your doc about headaches) that is difficult to come off of.  I was offered Neurontin and/or amitryptaline for my pain issues.   But I suspect after 1-Feb, the tune is going to change to the "new drugs" for pain.  They will call them "non-addicting," but as you know - they are harder to come off of than any codeine products.  Two sneaky ones:  Tramadol and Palexia (Nucynta).  They are SSRI/SNRI's disguised as pain drugs.

Can you imagine what a bore I am to have a coffee with?  All my knowledge about drugs that nobody wants to hear about....

 

On 13/01/2018 at 10:47 AM, Kristine said:

 We are renovation our house and will need to move on Tuesday to my brother in laws.  He's not living there at the moment.  The purpose of the renovation is to accomodate my 90 year old mother in law.  So..... level access, wheelchair friendly and so on.  

 

Oh dear, this is a big upset!  I mean, it's all for the better - but - you will be living in someone else's house.  Are they aware that you might become useless and go to bed with your eye pillow and peppermint oil at any time?  Are there young children about? (I'm looking for chaotic factors) or someone who is fond of watching Monster Truck Rallys on TV?  Or Motorsports of any kind?  Will you be in like a granny flat so that you can control your own environment?

I am obligated to remind you that this is no time to taper, but an excellent time to hold and get stable.
 

On 13/01/2018 at 10:47 AM, Kristine said:

The other issue is this creative/imagination void I have....for example, colour schemes for the different rooms.

 

 Oh hargh, I would be hopeless at this!  Do you want to match your current furniture?  Or change it all?  

Does this apply to carpets, too?

The good thing about paint is you can always change it later - but - it's so much easier to do while you are renovating!

I hope you see the sun today!  (geez, I blink and I'm a page behind again!)

[JanCarol]

On 15/01/2018 at 7:43 AM, Kristine said:

My lack of strength and trembling hands are not helpful. Already broken several items, so I'm on the sidelines.

I look forward to the day when I'm not so clumsy!

I was just beginning to feel stronger in my hands when I injured my right elbow.  

 

So I'm back to drop it and cuss land.

 

11 hours ago, Kristine said:

'Beyond Blue' is the largest Australian government funded mental health support and information service.  

 

They are so conventional.

I'll tell a story about one of my social faux pas. 

I was at the Post.  I live in a village - so - we know our Posties and they know us.  My ex-husband (in the USA) had died, and I received a mysterious bit of mail saying, "returned to sender, deceased."  That's how I found out about his death (it was a polypharmacy / trauma based suicide).  When I found out what happened, the next time I went to the Post, I told them - oh, he killed himself.

The Postie who was on that day said, "my best mate just committed suicide, he was a spokesperson for Beyond Blue and everything."

I said - out loud, in public - "It was probably the drugs that drove him to it."  Man, you could've heard a pin drop in there.  AWKWARD.  

(smacks forehead, way to be consoling, NOT)

 

 

10 hours ago, Longestroadhome said:

I am sure they mean well but when your funding comes from pharmaceutical companies BEWARE!

 

Don't forget - when your training comes from pharmaceutical companies, BEWARE!  

It's the posh societies like the AMA, the Heart Association, Beyond Blue (they claim not to take Pharma money, but they still promote Pharma and screening - screening is evil, too), Psychiatric Association, etc - get their funding from pharma, 

 

the doctors get their training from pharma.  That's why their efforts to reduce medicines are so awful ("cut it in half for 2 weeks and then you're fine to quit" is common advice), and they do stupid things like cold switches and polypharmacy.

 

9 hours ago, JS11 said:

Spoke with my Pych, who, although very supportive, still offered me a pill.

 

Even though my p-doc was a friendly one, I decided that my mood, my stress, my ideation, my thoughts and feelings - were really, none of her business.

I had a psychologist I could talk to and tell her everything.  She then filed reports with my p-doc to say, "Jan is doing really well!" And then my p-doc had no reason to drug me.

Tell your journal.  Tell us.  Don't tell the p-doc!

And - I hope you see the sun today - or at least feel it on your skin if you're hiding under an eye pillow!

Edited January 17, 2018 by JanCarol

[Psvt]

G'day Kristine

 

i have read this thread a couple of times now........ 

 

Im ashamed to be called an Aussie, can not believe what a tough cookie you are and cannot believe what we have as a nation have become.............what you have endured and been put through is , dare I say it, UNAUSTRALIAN!

 

one last thing, AFL?.......... You mean Rugby League don't you????

[RealMe]

14 hours ago, JanCarol said:

Nitrates, nitrites.  Preservatives.  But with tinnitus, who knows?

Hi JanCarol,

I don't use any salt but didn't think about nitrates.  Will certainly eliminate them going forward.  Having a very hard day.

[Kristine]

Note to self:  This little duck is in no fit state to have visitors drop in for extended period even if it is ones birthday.  Especially when moving house happened the day before that.  Honestly over it! ...yesterday well meaning visitors dropped in with best wishes.  But it was sensory overload for me.  My nervous system was firing and I wasn't coping.  I try to explain but people just don't get it!  Noise, chatter, mess and sugar are not my friends. I crumbled in a heap last night, my tolerance is so very low and I just wanted to cry..but the tears wouldn't  come.  Anxiety was clawing at my insides, I couldn't think but at the same time couldn't shut my brain off....and the physical pain! Blahhhhh!  I should have climbed in the closet and hid.

 

Last night was a restless night full of weird, vivid unpleasant dreams.  Today the muscular pain is beyond terrible.  I'm currently in bed trying to will myself to take a Mag bath.  Problem is I don't know exactly where the Epsom salts are located after this house move.  Let alone having the physical strength to get in and out of a bath.  

 

Feels like someone stuck a stick blender into my brain. Mushy brain...I'm sure it's liquified.  The anxiety has eased a little but my mood is very low. I still can't cry.  I'm fairly confident this is a side effect of fluoxetine.  Feeling like a waste of space.  Can't contribute anything to this world.  I'm not giving up...I'm just over it...this is only temporary.

 

Sending my love to all my fellow warriors.  We can do this. K 🌻

[Kristine]

14 hours ago, PSVT said:

G'day Kristine

 

i have read this thread a couple of times now........ 

 

Im ashamed to be called an Aussie, can not believe what a tough cookie you are and cannot believe what we have as a nation have become.............what you have endured and been put through is , dare I say it, UNAUSTRALIAN!

 

Hi PSTV,  Thank you for stopping by.  Unfortunately this is an international problem but Australia is in the top three of highest prescription rates per capita.  I'm not feeling like a 'tough cookie' at the moment! More like cookie dough but you are very kind to say so.  Lordy...you read through my thread more than once?!  Hope it was helpful in some way and didn't give you a headache.

 

You have been in my thoughts and I'm hoping you have managed to make it to the beach (at least once) K 🌻

[Kristine]

1 hour ago, RealMe said:

Having a very hard day.

Hi RM,  You and me both,  lovely lady 😞 Sending you hugs. K 🌻

[Kristine]

On 17/01/2018 at 11:27 AM, JS11 said:

It is just so very disheartening.  Hard day yesterday with some of those dreaded demons.  Spoke with my Pych, who, although very supportive, still offered me a pill.  I told her I had been on many pills, but I think the belief is just not the right one.  No more, no more, no more.

Hi JS,   Well done for refusing.  No more indeed.  We have had enough pills and we know they have caused much more halm than good.  In fact in my case I don't think they did any good at all.  Sending you big hugs. K 🌻 

[Kristine]

On 17/01/2018 at 11:22 AM, kesh said:

Hey Kristine, saw you'd been watching The Crown on Netflix. Watched it the last couple of days to distract myself. Not nearly as bad as I thought. I mostly watch cosy, warm-hearted things, not people being unpleasant to each other like those royals were. Poor Margaret. Apparently the Queen watched the show too.

Hey Kesh,  thank you for stopping by, I don't think I've visited your thread but I'll drop by when my brain feels less mushy!  JS11 has been watching The Crown...I'm more into 'Call the Midwife' but find it difficult to concentrate on television most of the time.  Wonder if any of the Royal Family are on antidepressants! Lovely to meet you Kesh. K 🌻

[wantrelief]

55 minutes ago, Kristine said:

Note to self:  This little duck is in no fit state to have visitors drop in for extended period even if it is ones birthday.  Especially when moving house happened the day before that.  Honestly over it! ...yesterday well meaning visitors dropped in with best wishes.  But it was sensory overload for me.  My nervous system was firing and I wasn't coping.  I try to explain but people just don't get it!  Noise, chatter, mess and sugar are not my friends. I crumbled in a heap last night, my tolerance is so very low and I just wanted to cry..but the tears wouldn't  come.  Anxiety was clawing at my insides, I couldn't think but at the same time couldn't shut my brain off....and the physical pain! Blahhhhh!  I should have climbed in the closet and hid.

 

Last night was a restless night full of weird, vivid unpleasant dreams.  Today the muscular pain is beyond terrible.  I'm currently in bed trying to will myself to take a Mag bath.  Problem is I don't know exactly where the Epsom salts are located after this house move.  Let alone having the physical strength to get in and out of a bath.  

 

Feels like someone stuck a stick blender into my brain. Mushy brain...I'm sure it's liquified.  The anxiety has eased a little but my mood is very low. I still can't cry.  I'm fairly confident this is a side effect of fluoxetine.  Feeling like a waste of space.  Can't contribute anything to this world.  I'm not giving up...I'm just over it...this is only temporary.

 

Sending my love to all my fellow warriors.  We can do this. K 🌻

You describe so well how this all can feel.  I am so sorry you are having these symptoms and on your birthday, nonetheless.  It is amazing how little we can do on somedays and it is so difficult for other people to get it.  It sounds like you have had a lot going on recently so I am hoping this will settle soon once you get adjusted to your temporary living situation. 

[Frogie]

1 hour ago, Kristine said:

Note to self:  This little duck is in no fit state to have visitors drop in for extended period even if it is ones birthday.  Especially when moving house happened the day before that.  Honestly over it! ...yesterday well meaning visitors dropped in with best wishes.  But it was sensory overload for me.  My nervous system was firing and I wasn't coping.  I try to explain but people just don't get it!  Noise, chatter, mess and sugar are not my friends. I crumbled in a heap last night, my tolerance is so very low and I just wanted to cry..but the tears wouldn't  come.  Anxiety was clawing at my insides, I couldn't think but at the same time couldn't shut my brain off....and the physical pain! Blahhhhh!  I should have climbed in the closet and hid.

 

Last night was a restless night full of weird, vivid unpleasant dreams.  Today the muscular pain is beyond terrible.  I'm currently in bed trying to will myself to take a Mag bath.  Problem is I don't know exactly where the Epsom salts are located after this house move.  Let alone having the physical strength to get in and out of a bath.  

 

Feels like someone stuck a stick blender into my brain. Mushy brain...I'm sure it's liquified.  The anxiety has eased a little but my mood is very low. I still can't cry.  I'm fairly confident this is a side effect of fluoxetine.  Feeling like a waste of space.  Can't contribute anything to this world.  I'm not giving up...I'm just over it...this is only temporary.

 

Sending my love to all my fellow warriors.  We can do this. K 🌻

Happy birthday 🎂🎂 I hope you can find your Epsom salts and have a nice hot bath.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Downbutnotout]

7 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Happy birthday 🎂🎂 I hope you can find your Epsom salts and have a nice hot bath.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Happy Birthday dear Kristina! 

[Kristine]

Thank you WR, Frogie and D 😊 Still stuck in bed with my iPad. ...I did manage to shuffle to the kitchen and make some tea.  K xox

[JS11]

Hey K,

 

34 minutes ago, wantrelief said:

You describe so well how this all can feel.  I am so sorry you are having these symptoms and on your birthday, nonetheless.  It is amazing how little we can do on somedays and it is so difficult for other people to get it.  It sounds like you have had a lot going on recently so I am hoping this will settle soon once you get adjusted to your temporary living situation. 

 

I wholeheartedly agree.  Even in such a state you are a wonderful spokesperson for not a not so lovely occurrence.  

 

I was on Prozac then off but then it was added to the current med of the month club to assist with not crying as I couldn't stop.  It did subdue the tears somewhat, but not entirely.  Your poor body probably just doesn't know what is what.  

 

Tea is the elixir of life. May its powers soothe your weary soul my friend.

xoxo,

JS11

I like Call of the MIdwife too!

[JS11]

On 1/12/2018 at 7:19 PM, Kristine said:

Lol...😂 Not funny but funny 😂 I've been running into walls and doing my best not to fall off or fall over...fallen once...so putting everything into consideration, that's not too bad!  Add on the tremors...well let's just say you wouldn't want to put my in a China shop 😳 

 

Do you have a helmet?  Do you have carpeting?  I have done the wall crawl as well. NOT, fun.

Exercise caution, mind the gap and all that stuff.

xoxo,

JS11 

[Kristine]

14 minutes ago, JS11 said:

Do you have a helmet? 

Good point JS...I should start wearing one...and one of those giant padded sumo suits! K xox

[JustCallMeJane]

Just popping in to say Happy Birthday hun! 

[JS11]

7 minutes ago, Kristine said:

Good point JS...I should start wearing one...and one of those giant padded sumo suits! K xox

 

I think you need one with a pike on top.  If we have to be in withdrawal and deal with all this, then damnit! at least we should look resplendent!  That, and I am "still" watching the Crown.  A padded suit might be a bit warm for you, being summer and Australia and all.  And we know, that a blow up Zimmerframe will never do.  Hmmmmm....what is a girl with vertigo to do?  I think being prone somewhere is best.  Couch? Bed? Lawnchair?  Something gentle and easy my friend.  

 

I want you to feel better and be unharmed.

xoxo,

JS

 

 

 

[Kristine]

25 minutes ago, JS11 said:

I wholeheartedly agree.  Even in such a state you are a wonderful spokesperson for not a not so lovely occurrence.  

 

I was on Prozac then off but then it was added to the current med of the month club to assist with not crying as I couldn't stop.  It did subdue the tears somewhat, but not entirely.  Your poor body probably just doesn't know what is what.  

 

Tea is the elixir of life. May its powers soothe your weary soul my friend.

xoxo,

JS11

I like Call of the MIdwife too!

Thank you JS,  you say the most beautiful kind words.  So beautiful in fact,  a single tear just popped out! But no more. Weird to have such a desire to cry but an inability to do it.  These drugs are so so dangerous. Yes, tea...might have another xo K 

[Kristine]

9 minutes ago, JustCallMeJane said:

Just popping in to say Happy Birthday hun! 

Thank you Jane 🙂 I'll come and visit you thread asap...I know you are having a crappy time...you have been in my thoughts. K xox

[JS11]

8 minutes ago, Kristine said:

Thank you JS,  you say the most beautiful kind words.  So beautiful in fact,  a single tear just popped out! But no more. Weird to have such a desire to cry but an inability to do it.  These drugs are so so dangerous. Yes, tea...might have another xo K 

 

A single tear is a start my friend.  We are on opposite extremes there.  

 

Yes, have do have a cup and try to rest a wee bit if you are able.  My wish for you.  A little relief and some peace.

xoxo,

JS

[GentleSteps]

Kristine, Happy Birthday!

 

Your strength, sense of humor and wonderful writing somehow suffered not one bit despite your having accomplished not just a house move (!) but a birthday and a surfeit of social interactions - whew.  Herculean stuff for anyone, including people not in WD or tapering!

 

"In bed with iPad" seems perfectly reasonable.  The add-on "commentary" we could surely all do without.  As you noted, it's all transitory, but No Fun At All when it's chattering!  Does the iPad help you "change the channel"?

 

Perhaps in your dreams you'll find where the Epsoms are in your new place!

Sending restful breezes your way.

 

GS

[JanCarol]

Happy belated Birthday K!  (sorry it was stressful)

 

I came to visit for you and - was it JS - the "ice as food group" people.

 

I found some brilliant research that indicates that chomping ice can improve cognition (especially if you are anaemic, but still)

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/people-skip-coffee-chomp-ice-instead/  

 

Just for fun!

I hope you get well rested and recover from the upset!

Remember, we need more time to recover - so be kind to yourself.  Don't beat yourself up if you aren't hunky dory for a few weeks!  Let your body decide when it's ready to move again.

 

And - in a perfect world you would have your Epsom Salts baths out in the sun (but it's not a perfect world - I have heard of people who have "mineral pools," and hot tubs can now be fitted to accept magnesium salts - wouldn't that be divine?)

[Kristine]

Thank you GS for the birthday wishes and heartfelt words.  I think I've used humour throughout my life to deal with adversity.  I guess it is one coping mechanism.  

1 hour ago, GentleSteps said:

In bed with iPad" seems perfectly reasonable.  The add-on "commentary" we could surely all do without.  As you noted, it's all transitory, but No Fun At All when it's chattering!  Does the iPad help you "change the channel"?

I mainly use my iPad for SA....so I don't think that's changing the channel so to speak.  But it is comforting to know I'm not alone.  I have just read your intro and once again I felt the familiar surge of anger.  I find I often say "I'm so sorry you are suffering".....I'm finding my words are inadequate.  So...I'd give you a hug if I could...cause what has happened to you is criminal.  You are a strong lady GS. I admire you. K xo

[GentleSteps]

20 minutes ago, Kristine said:

cause what has happened to you is criminal.

Kristine,

 

I'm taking that hug from the Southern Hemisphere

 

Our collective signatures and introductions speak to how so many of us were "sitting ducks" for a system that we, unfortunately, trusted at such vulnerable points in our lives.  I look at your Intro and my ears burn while part of me is beside herself with awe at how strong and whole you are.  Seriously!  That sense of humor you have is a life force ~ for you and for all of us lucky enough to be within its sphere.  Mine has been wrapped in the sheets, so to speak, since last January.  I miss it.

 

I've been so fortunate not to have been hospitalized, but that was only by random luck.  Some day I may share just how close a call that was. 

[Kristine]

Thank you Jan  you are a sweetheart xo.....chomping ice improves cognition?!? Had a little chuckle...cause it's not working! Think JS might agree with me!

20 minutes ago, JanCarol said:

Remember, we need more time to recover - so be kind to yourself.  Don't beat yourself up if you aren't hunky dory for a few weeks!  Let your body decide when it's ready to move again.

 

And - in a perfect world you would have your Epsom Salts baths out in the sun (but it's not a perfect world - I have heard of people who have "mineral pools," and hot tubs can now be fitted to accept magnesium salts - wouldn't that be divine?)

Wise words Jan...thank you, I needed to hear it.  Rest I will.  I did manage a bath...found some liquid 'Radox' in the bathroom cabinet.  However, it was very bubbly. I mean really extra bubbly!  I became lost in a sea of radox bubbles.  If I were watching my life from the outside, I'm not sure if it's a tragedy or a comedy. I think it's both. 

 

A hot tub with Mag salts!.....I'm going to sneak it into the building project...maybe hubby won't notice...pity we are already over budget!! 

 

Xox

K 🌻