Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted June 14, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 14, 2018 16 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Is anyone working with (and can recommend) a psychiatrist or other doctor in relation to their taper (Benzo and/or AD) in the Cleveland, Ohio area? This holistic doctor is about 30 miles away in Fairlawn, Ohio: MiA Provider Directory - Jodie Skillicorn, DO, ABIHM Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, Shep said: This holistic doctor is about 30 miles away in Fairlawn, Ohio: MiA Provider Directory - Jodie Skillicorn, DO, ABIHM Thank you. I’m familiar with her. Extremely expensive. Doesn’t accept insurance. I guess I have to pay for the better value. Hard when you’re broke, not working. Will have to save up. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted June 14, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 14, 2018 Is your current medical provider threatening to cut you off your meds? If not, you may want to keep getting your drugs from your current provider and find a therapist nearby you who takes insurance and can do some of the holistic type of non-drug treatments. Are there any mindfulness type of therapists in your area who are covered under your insurance? Unfortunately, very few prescribing doctors are withdrawal-wise. Very frustrating. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 6/14/18 315 - woke - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 530 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium 10 - took charlie to my parents - agitated 12 - lunch 1 - Acupuncture 8 - testing for heavy metals picked up by fedex 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 9 - sleep 10 - woke 6/15/18 3 - woke 445 - woke 530 - woke - anxious in stomach Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 6/15/18 3 - woke 445 - woke 530 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium Laid on couch....anxious...heavy eyes/head pressure...obsessed about life (travel, going to stores, meds, marriage, symptoms, taper) 11 - library, Costco 12 - lunch 1 - watched Numb with Matthew Perry about mental illness Drifted off and woke in panic 6 - dinner with chip and Olwen - spoke at their house about my issues and dinner at creekside. 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - sleep 6/16/18 445 - woke 530 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 6/16/18 445 - woke 530 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium Feeling extremely fatigued / anxious in chest / heavy head 12 - lunch 1 - spoke with Rain at 33 for help with bw 2 - cookout at Stewarts 3 - very depressed and ruminating 6 - feeling lighter, not as depressed. Valium and lithium wearing off? 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium - sleep 1130 - woke 6/17/18 230 - woke 330 - woke Extremely anxious in chest - cortisol? Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 6/17/18 230 - woke 330 - woke Extremely anxious in chest - cortisol? 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium Father’s Day Feeling extremely fatigued / anxious in chest / heavy head 11 - movie - Incredibles 2 Felt very depressed for an hour / fatigued 12 - lunch - Sonic with the kids and all 3 - went to Middleburg to swim for an hour - hot (90 degrees) / anxious and depressed / fatigued 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium - sleep 11 - sleep 6/18/18 2 - woke 5 - woke 6 - woke - unrested and anxious Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 6/18/18 2 - woke 5 - woke 6 - woke - unrested and anxious Extremely anxious in chest - cortisol? 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - Vet for puppy - heavy head / feeling depressed 12 - lunch 162 mg Tylenol 3 - guitar lessons charlie - head pressure. Can of Sprite 6 - tried napping - woke in panic - ugh 7 - charlie baseball game - 90 degrees Magnesium calm drink 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 1130 - slept 6/19/18 330 - woke Anxiety Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 6/19/18 330 - woke Anxiety 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium Feeling agitated / worried about lack of sleep Tried napping - agitated / panic 12 - lunch 12 - therapist 162 mg Tylenol 3 - very agitated feelings over body / heavy head 4 - haircut with Charlie and me Lowe’s fit light bulbs and car wash at sheets 7 - pick up basketball charlie 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - slept 6/20/18 1 - woke 530 - woke - anxiety - not as severe as lately Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 6/20/18 1 - woke 530 - woke - anxiety - not as severe as lately 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / omega 3 9 - 450mg Lithium 12 - lunch 1230 - dropped off Syd at mom and Dad Bs. Set up dad’s new computer monitor Anxiety in chest 4 - agitated after dozing off - feeling sticks with me - FEELING 5 - Charlie baseball game 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 10 - slept 6/21/18 1 - woke 6 - woke - anxious Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 6/21/18 1 - woke 6 - woke - anxious 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops Some obsession about sleep and waking in panic / head heavy 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - colonic hydrotherapy 12 - Lunch 2 - started power washing deck 3 - Acupuncture - FEELING / dozed off on table and felt toxic after waking 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - slept 6/22/18 130 - woke 5 - woke - tried falling back to sleep - wake in anxiety and panic. Just got up and started the day power washing my deck. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 6/22/18 130 - woke 5 - woke - tried falling back to sleep - wake in anxiety and panic. Just got up and started the day power washing my deck. 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - Power washed deck 12 - Lunch 12 - dentist filling 2 - Costco 5 - charlie baseball game 8 - bill came over 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 1030 - sleep 6/23/18 730 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 6/23/18 730 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 12 - Lunch 1230 - Power washed patio walkway to gate 5 - dinner at Chili’s 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 1030 - sleep 6/24/18 630 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 6/24/18 630 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 1130 - bike ride with family- 6 miles 12 - Lunch 2 - magnesium calm drink 3 - Swimming with kids and 20 mins sauna (me) 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 1230 - sleep 6/25/18 630 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 6/25/18 630 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - errands with charlie - library, bank, five below, cvs 10 - played catch with Charlie 12 - Lunch. 12 - went to my mom and dad’s / Walmart / Luna’s / returned amazon stuff - UPS 5 - sprayed for weeds on patio 6 - dinner with Ali at burntwood at crocker Park - first date in quite a while. Kids are on trip with in laws (tecumseh) - concerned - no intimacy between Ali and me - like brother and sister. She doesn’t want to talk about it. No communication nor interest in counseling by my wife. We exist well at taking care of home and kids. But not taking care of each other. 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 1030 - sleep 6/26/18 130 - 230 woke 630 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
FakeItTilYouMakeIt Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Dabhob, Are you over the Pristiq withdrawal? How long did you feel better after stopping it? Medications: Current: Pristiq 0mg since July 10, 2018 Previous Medication: Pristiq 50 mg May 24 to June 23 2018 Pristiq 25 mg June 23 to July 9 Lexapro 20 mg January 26 2018 to May 23 2018 Ativan for Insomnia: December 8, 2017 to February 26, 2018 (.5) Once per night Dec/Jan .5 Once every 3 days in February Diabetic: Insulin Supplements: Vitamin D. Fish oil. Magnesium. Multi-Vitamin (B complex) Iron For sleep: little nibbles of melatonin (1mg) Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 6/26/18 630 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - Power wash patio 12 - Lunch 1 - optometrist for glaucoma Kids came home for trip Ali at trade show for week cleveland 6 - Raymond’s for dinner 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - sleep 6/27/18 6 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 6/27/18 6 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 11 - dropped kids off at Raymond’s / sauna 20 mins 12 - Lunch 12 - Power wash patio 2 - Acupuncture 5 - charlie baseball game - first game as catcher 7 - dinner at Raymond’s. Ali at trade show downtown cleveland 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - sleep 6/28/18 6 - woke 8 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 6/28/18 6 - woke 8 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 10 - finish power washing backyard patio 11 - Dana watch kids 12 - Lunch 2 - gave blood Red Cross 7 - took charlie to weekly pick up basketball tournament 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 11 - sleep 6/29/18 330 - woke 630 - woke - felt a bit anxious Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 6/29/18 330 - woke 630 - woke - felt a bit anxious 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - took Kids to in laws 10 - Dr Hammes follow up - zinc and methyl b12 folate - result of micronutrients blood work 12 - Lunch Feel anxious / tried laying down - nervous to doze off 1 - lebron opted out of contract 2 - sauna 20 mins (10/10) / inlaws brought Kids to pool - sat on pool edge and tossed ball to charlie 6 - dinner - zinc / go with ali to sima event at rock and roll hall of fame 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 11 - sleep 6/30/18 6 - woke - anxious sensation Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 6/30/18 6 - woke - anxious sensation 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium 9 - ali and Syd ran 5k pierogi run at Tri C - charlie and I cheered Feel very anxious 12 - lunch 1 - sauna 25 mins - 15/10 150 degrees 6 - dinner / zinc 25mg - going away cookout for Winstels at Granata’s Feeling agitated. Worried about benzo wd. 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 11 - sleep 7/1/18 330 - woke 430 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 7/1/18 330 - woke 430 - woke - anxious sensation 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops 9 - 450mg Lithium Feel very anxious about sleep - “doze and panic” 11 - Power washed front/side walk way (All Done!). Next up....weeding 12 - lunch 1 - sauna 25 mins - 10/5/10 155 degrees 4 - birthday party for Winstel kids at Scene 75 6 - dinner / zinc 25mg. 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 9 - sleep 7/2/18 3 - woke 5 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 7/2/18 3 - woke 5 - woke - very anxious sensation ***supposed to start methyl b12 injections starting this week. Concerned that they will rev up bw symptoms. 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / magnesium Calm from feeling revved up 9 - 450mg Lithium / 2000mg vitamin C 11 - zoo with family (90 degrees). Feel very low/depressed/ no energy / feel really bad after feeling pretty good for a few weeks. Diarrhea 12 - lunch 1 - called my dad to cry a bit / feeling horrible in head and chest Very tough day. Head pressure, anxiety in chest and fatigue / suicidal 3 - guitar lessons charlie 5 - 325mg Tylenol 6 - dinner / zinc 25mg 7 - charlie baseball game 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 1030 - sleep 7/3/18 1 - woke - very anxious Didn’t fall back to sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 7/3/18 1 - woke - very anxious / ruminating Didn’t fall back to sleep Very anxious. Thinking of going to hospital. 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / magnesium Calm from feeling revved up 9 - 450mg Lithium 12 - lunch / 25 mg zinc Family went to botanical gardens. I didn’t go. anxiety in chest / burning over body returned / feel horrible / talking to Dad 1 - therapist Terry - he calmed me down a bit. Still feel anxious and flu-like body feelings Constantly think of bw - pops in head and makes me anxious Diarrhea 2 - Staples for printer ink / bank atm 3 - 162mg Tylenol 6 - dinner Worried about sleep 9 - sleep - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 1030 - woke / 25mg 7/4/18 Up at 1030 - never went back to sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 4:38 AM, Dabhob33 said: **supposed to start methyl b12 injections starting this week. Concerned that they will rev up bw symptoms. 6 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 1 - woke - very anxious / ruminating Didn’t fall back to sleep Very anxious. Thinking of going to hospital. Dabhob, did you go ahead with the b12 injections? You are right to be concerned, as B12 can definitely rev up withdrawal symptoms. Just trying to see if these two quotes could be related or if your wave is getting worse. You had a series of really good nights as far as sleep goes over the last 10 days: On 6/23/2018 at 8:20 AM, Dabhob33 said: 1030 - sleep 6/23/18 730 - woke On 6/24/2018 at 10:06 AM, Dabhob33 said: 1030 - sleep 6/24/18 630 - woke On 6/27/2018 at 8:22 AM, Dabhob33 said: 11 - sleep 6/27/18 6 - woke On 6/30/2018 at 7:33 AM, Dabhob33 said: 11 - sleep 6/30/18 6 - woke - anxious sensation This definitely speaks to healing, as your sleep has been incredibly disrupted for months now. So to see some 7 - 9 hour nights of straight sleep is really good. I know that hours of sleep doesn't necessarily equate to quality sleep, but it still is an improvement. It shows your nervous system is capable of healing. Just wanted to touch base and see what your thoughts are and if this latest wave might have been caused by B12 or if this is just one of those brutal waves that comes out of nowhere. BTW, I'm very impressed with the amount of work you're doing with power washing and taking your kids places. Please make sure you're not over-doing it, though. Sometimes when we do feel a bit better, we can overdo it and find ourselves back in a wave. Make sure you're staying hydrated as you work in the yard and run errands. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 7/3/18 1 - woke - very anxious / ruminating Didn’t fall back to sleep Very anxious. Thinking of going to hospital. 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / magnesium Calm from feeling revved up 9 - 450mg Lithium 12 - lunch / 25 mg zinc Family went to botanical gardens. I didn’t go. anxiety in chest / burning over body returned / feel horrible / talking to Dad 1 - therapist Terry - he calmed me down a bit. Still feel anxious and flu-like body feelings Constantly think of bw - pops in head and makes me anxious Diarrhea 2 - Staples for printer ink / bank atm 3 - 162mg Tylenol 6 - dinner Worried about sleep 9 - sleep - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / magnesium (calm drink) 1030 - woke / 25mg 7/4/18 Up at 1030 - never went back to sleep 1030 - woke / 25mg doxylamine Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Shep said: Dabhob, did you go ahead with the b12 injections? You are right to be concerned, as B12 can definitely rev up withdrawal symptoms. Just trying to see if these two quotes could be related or if your wave is getting worse. You had a series of really good nights as far as sleep goes over the last 10 days: This definitely speaks to healing, as your sleep has been incredibly disrupted for months now. So to see some 7 - 9 hour nights of straight sleep is really good. I know that hours of sleep doesn't necessarily equate to quality sleep, but it still is an improvement. It shows your nervous system is capable of healing. Just wanted to touch base and see what your thoughts are and if this latest wave might have been caused by B12 or if this is just one of those brutal waves that comes out of nowhere. BTW, I'm very impressed with the amount of work you're doing with power washing and taking your kids places. Please make sure you're not over-doing it, though. Sometimes when we do feel a bit better, we can overdo it and find ourselves back in a wave. Make sure you're staying hydrated as you work in the yard and run errands. I haven’t taken the b12 yet. I will slow down. I’m hydrates. Maybe too much even. I’m taking 25mg of zinc and drinking more calm magnesium. That’s the only change to meds and supplements. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 5, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 5, 2018 17 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I haven’t taken the b12 yet. I will slow down. I’m hydrates. Maybe too much even. I’m taking 25mg of zinc and drinking more calm magnesium. That’s the only change to meds and supplements. Thanks for the additional information. From your journal, you added in zinc on June 29 and two days later, started having more problems. Did you recently have bloodwork done that showed low levels of B12 and zinc? I'm concerned that the zinc may be at too high a dose at 25 mg. Please see: Supplementing with zinc The article that Nadia links to in that first post on the Zinc thread: Higher levels of zinc do not necessarily reduce anxiety. In fact, too much zinc can have the opposite effect, according to the results of animal research published in the May 11, 2010 edition of "Physiology & Behavior . . . . If you are considering taking zinc to treat anxiety, it is important to realize that it may not help you if your zinc levels are already within normal range. Zinc, like other minerals, is beneficial in proper amounts but toxic in large doses. Unless you are pregnant or nursing, the recommended daily allowance of zinc is 11 mg. During withdrawal, we can become hyper-sensitive to supplements, so I'm wondering if adding in zinc, especially at 25 mg, may be ramping up your symptoms. You may want to target foods high in B12 and zinc rather than supplement. Or at least try that first and see if you can get the benefits of the nutrients in foods, as this is less likely to ramp up symptoms when nutrients are gotten naturally rather than in supplements. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 7/4/18 Up all night. 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / Calm magnesium 9 - 450mg Lithium 10 - 4th of July parade with Raymonds 12 - lunch Feel nervous about sleep. Want to go to the hospital. 1230 - talked with chip re my depression. 2 - aunt Margaret was party 6 - dinner Heavy. Tight head. Worried about sleep 9 - sleep 7/5/18 2 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 330 - woke 430 - woke Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes, I took a blood test that showed I am deficient in zinc, magnesium and b12. I stopped the zinc yesterday. My biggest symptoms are extreme anxiousness in belly and chest in AM. Very heavy head and depression. Of course, the drifting off and panic seconds later is still an issue. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 5, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 5, 2018 Sounds like you are deficient in some key areas but unfortunately, you are among many of us (myself included) whose nervous system is too compromised to handle a lot of supplements. That's okay, though, there are ways of increasing your levels of many things through food. Are you a vegetarian? If not, you may want to have a read of Dr. Brogan's article: Red Meat for Your Depression Red meat is an excellent source of zinc and B12. And if you do some searches on google, you'll find much more on this. I actually was a vegetarian for 32 years prior to withdrawal, but I got so sick with nutritional issues after I stopped being able to take my supplements that I had to slowly reintroduce red meat and fish. It solved a number of problems, so diet really is key during withdrawal. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thank you. I’m not a vegetarian. We eat a lot of white meat and fish. Although I love an occasional steak. I’ll read the article and would love to increase the red meat. Do you think I’m doing ok? I’ve really been nervous lately. The past few weeks I had a lot of confidence. This week’s been rough. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 7/5/18 2 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium 330 - woke 430 - woke 8 - breakfast -valium 5mg /eye drops / Calm magnesium 9 - 450mg Lithium 10 - Kids and Ali went swimming with friends Feel pain, anxious, depressed, fatigued -I didn’t go 12 - lunch 1 - meet with potentially new psychiatrist - Dr Campbell 6 - dinner Doze off and panic 9 - lithium 225mg / 5mg Valium / mag calm 1030 - doxylamine 25mg 1130 - sleep 7/6/18 130 - woke - up the rest of the night - doze off and wake in panic continually. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 6, 2018 22 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Thank you. I’m not a vegetarian. We eat a lot of white meat and fish. Although I love an occasional steak. I’ll read the article and would love to increase the red meat. Do you think I’m doing ok? I’ve really been nervous lately. The past few weeks I had a lot of confidence. This week’s been rough. Yes, definitely look into adding in some read meat. I really think the zinc tripped you up. You were on a streak of 7 - 9 hour nights of sleep, which is a major improvement from where you were when you first landed on this website. So yes, I think you're doing okay. And if you can leave out the supplements - and also, really try to stop adding in OTC drugs if you can - I think you're going to reach a level of stability. The simpler you can make this, the easier it is on your nervous system. Your nervous system has already shown it has some resiliency. That's good, really good. Try looking into more natural ways of healing. Check out different diets. These links will get you started. Elimination or exclusion diets for reactions to food (food intolerance) Histamine intolerance Cut down on sugar to improve mental health The Beyond Meds website also has a wealth of information on this. Beyond Meds - "gut health" archive of articles I ended up going for a modified Paleo diet and it was a game changer in my recovery. We're all different, so check out different food choices and see what you can find to work for you. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 The interesting thing about that period of time that I was sleeping well is that I was drinking what I thought was just a fruit drink in our fridge. After talking with my wife this morning And discussing how I was feeling she mentioned this drink called Spark. I looked online and found that it’s an energy drink that has Vit A, C, E, Niacin, Copper, Chromium, Choline, L-Tyrosine, Taurine, Glycine, L-Carnatine, B1, B6, B12 inositol and some caffeine among other things. My wife got some trial packets from her gym and made a few pitchers of it. I can’t recall how many times I drank it, but would guess daily for breakfast over that period of time I was feeling good (looking back at my food journal). It looks like I drank it from June 22 - July 1. I slept really well. Started feeling bad on July 3. I stopped drinking when we ran out of the packets evidently. I thought it was just a fruit drink. Didn’t even know it’s name until today. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted July 7, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: I looked online and found that it’s an energy drink that has Vit A, C, E, Niacin, Copper, Chromium, Choline, L-Tyrosine, Taurine, Glycine, L-Carnatine, B1, B6, B12 inositol and some caffeine among other things. Wow, that's quite a list! No wonder you were out power washing your deck for days. The fact that you didn't know that there was anything in that drink means it definitely wasn't the placebo effect. I wish this was something that was safe to take during withdrawal. Just a thought, though - you may want to look into these supplements individually and see if there's anything you can work with that will be safe. For instance, it may be worth trying a small dose of Glycine for sleep instead of periodically using doxylamine. Since you are on sedating drugs already, adding in anything - including a supplement - that is sedating may cause a paradoxical reaction, but it may be a safer option than doxy. You can use the search feature or Google "surviving antidepressants" + [name of supplement] and you'll find information about the supplements that are safe during withdrawal and other members' experiences with them. Link to comment
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