Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 2, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 2, 2018 On 16/02/2018 at 11:26 AM, Altostrata said: On the other hand, you might want to take a small amount of Prozac instead of Effexor for reinstatement. Substituting Prozac for Pristiq ismore iffy, but Prozac is easier to taper. More iffy means that it may not work. On 17/07/2011 at 2:52 AM, Altostrata said: Pristiq is a drug made of Effexor's (venlafaxine) active metabolite, O-desvenlafaxine. Pristiq is to Effexor as Lexapro is to Celexa -- a tweaked and more powerful isomer molecule. In effect, Pristiq is concentrated Effexor. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 The burning pain travels throughout my body/head, consistently. Is there a medication (non psych) or natural remedy that has been recommended? I have a feeling I know the answer. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Dabhob33 said: I have a feeling I know the answer. Read back through your Intro topics. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 12:23 PM, Happy2Heal said: have you ever heard of a light box? I got one called Happy Light. https://verilux.com/light-therapy to be honest, I have no idea if it works, because I've used it very infrequently and I was doing something else to fight off seasonal depression at the same time, I was taking vit D3 pills (I vary the dosage based on how much actual sunlight I get, now that the days are getting longer and I'm out more, I cut back a bit on my dose of vit D3) getting out in the early morning, in the sun on a good day, as often as you can, can def help lift your mood. also avoiding sugar can help your mood, there's been studies that show if you eat something like leafy greens instead of some sugary dessert, you're going to feel better and the effect can be almost immediate. it's worth looking into, even if it doesn't help lift your depression, it gives you something else to think about and to do which would be my next two suggestions, try to distract yourself and try to keep busy. even when you don't feel like doing something, do it anyway also I read, if you keep a list of things to do and check them off, that actually gives your brain a little dopamine boost that feels good. Imagine that, just crossing things off a list helps to boost your mood! I never would have thought that would make any difference at all. So you KNOW< now I keep lists and tick things off as they get done!! LOL I hope you're having a better day today. I was going over my notes and realized I didn’t respond (or I don’t think I did). Thank you for all the great info. Have a great evening. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 5:01 AM, AliG said: Hi Dave. Please answer Shep's questions as it helps to uncover the problem and causes of your symptoms. As I said in my initial post to you : this is multi - layered and could take a little time to fully unravel. In the meantime, I just wanted to share with you : that many of us have had some of the the burning symptoms, in withdrawal. It's an uncomfortable feeling, but I have found that ice and coolness can help. For burning feet ~ I found, a tub of cold water and ice helped to relieve the pain and for the arms and body : wet towels and a fan. I found a cool towel around the shoulders/ or even legs, helpful. I also kept a gel pack in the freezer so that it was always handy. Menthol creams can also offer some relief, at various times. This link has a discussion on the topic: Hope this helps. This symptom does improve. Thank you for your help and concern. Much appreciated. I miss some of these posts. Sorry about that. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Ok. I’ll get Effexor. I do have Prozac left if that would help. They gave me that for a week to extend the pristiq taper. 7 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: Ok. I’ll get Effexor. I do have Prozac left if that would help. They gave me that for a week to extend the pristiq taper. Nevermind re Prozac. We addressed it in past thread. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 3, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 3, 2018 If you have Prozac, you might give it a try. It's easy to make a liquid with Prozac. I might try 0.5mg to start, use an oral syringe to take a small amount. Cymbalta, Pristiq, and Effexor are in all the same antidepressant "class." This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 The prozac comes in 20mg doses. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
AliG Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/759-tips-for-tapering-off-prozac-fluoxetine For very gradual tapering, for example, you can dissolve a 10mg capsule or orally dispersible tablet in 10mL of water to make a solution with 1mg Prozac in 1mg of water. To take 1mg Prozac, use an oral syringe to take out 1mL. Refrigerated, it's supposed to be stable for 14 days Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 3/2/18 6am - woke up Shoveled drive and drove Kids to school 8 - 5mg Valium / Tylenol regular 325mg / 3 drops Head and eyes pressure 9 - Breakfast Slept Agitated/anxious/restless Ran errands - very anxious 1 - body burning 230 - Tylenol regular 325mg 4 - burning returned / heavy headed / anxious stomach 445 - migraine headache (interesting since I recently took a Tylenol / extremely agitated 6 - dinner 730 - men’s group 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 10 - 7mg valium / 3 drops 230am - woke up for an hour 3/3/18 730am - Decent night of sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
AliG Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Ok ~ what have you decided to do? Liquid prozac ~ 0 .5 mg ? 11 hours ago, Altostrata said: If you have Prozac, you might give it a try. It's easy to make a liquid with Prozac. I might try 0.5mg to start, use an oral syringe to take a small amount. Cymbalta, Pristiq, and Effexor are in all the same antidepressant "class.". Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, AliG said: Ok ~ what have you decided to do? Liquid prozac ~ 0 .5 mg ? how do I make the liquid Prozac? How do I determine .5 of a 20mg pill? Apologize for my ignorance. 3/2/18 6am - woke up Shoveled drive and drove Kids to school 8 - 5mg Valium / Tylenol regular 325mg Head and eyes pressure 9 - Breakfast Slept Agitated/anxious/restless Ran errands - very anxious 1 - body burning 230 - Tylenol regular 325mg 4 - burning returned / heavy headed / anxious stomach 445 - migraine headache (interesting since I recently took a Tylenol / extremely agitated 6 - dinner 730 - men’s group 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 10 - 7mg valium 230am - woke up for an hour 3/3/18 730am - Decent night of sleep Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 3, 2018 5 hours ago, AliG said: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/759-tips-for-tapering-off-prozac-fluoxetine For very gradual tapering, for example, you can dissolve a 10mg capsule or orally dispersible tablet in 10mL of water to make a solution with 1mg Prozac in 1mg of water. To take 1mg Prozac, use an oral syringe to take out 1mL. Refrigerated, it's supposed to be stable for 14 days 1 hour ago, Dabhob33 said: how do I make the liquid Prozac? How do I determine .5 of a 20mg pill? Apologize for my ignorance. Dissolve 20mg pill in 20mL water - ratio is 1mL of solution = 1mg Prozac Extract and take 0.5mL of solution for 0.5mg dose OR Dissolve 20mg pill in 40mL wate - ratio is 2mL of solution = 1mg Prozac Extract and take 1mL of solution for 0.5mg dose OR Dissolve 20mg pill in 400mL water - ratio 20mL of solution = 1mg Prozac Extract and take 10mL of solution for 0.5mg dose * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
AliG Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Are you ok with that Dave? I understand if you need more help ~ Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 I think I have it. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just take one dose? Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 I just made the dose. .5ml is verrrrry little. I took it. I dumped the rest. Please let me know if need to do anything else. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 3, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: I dumped the rest. See: 8 hours ago, AliG said: Refrigerated, it's supposed to be stable for 14 days 40 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: Please let me know if need to do anything else. This is very important to do: Keep Notes on Paper And also: Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 Oops. I dumped it. How often do I take the Prozac? For how long? I read the “keep it simple”. I keep and post a journal daily. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: How often do I take the Prozac? Same dose, every day at about the same time. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) My next 20mL batch (tomorrow), I will refrigerate. A pill will essentially last 14 days. Edited March 4, 2018 by ChessieCat removed quote Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 4, 2018 It may be best to use bottled or distilled water if you are keeping it for 14 days. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 3/3/18 730am - Decent night of sleep 8 - 5mg Valium / 3 drops Decent morning. Anxious chest and heavy head. Feel slow Family fun outing Noon - lunch 1 - irritable, agitated, crawl out of skin, head pressure, depressed,burning, lips/face burning (morning valium wear off?) 245 - Tylenol 325mg reg strength Symptoms died down, but still there a bit 5 - dinner 6 - prozac .5mg liquid 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 10 - 7mg valium Physical Symptoms are minimal during evening 11 - woke up burning all over body 3/4/18 2am - woke up burning - took 325ng tylenol Edited March 4, 2018 by ChessieCat remove quote Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 3/3/18 730am - Decent night of sleep 8 - 5mg Valium / 3 drops Decent morning. This is an excellent report, Dabhob. And this was written three days after your benzo updose and before the Prozac reinstatement. It sounds like the benzo updose is helping. 4 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 6 - prozac .5mg liquid In your previous AD history, did you take Prozac in the evening? I'm concerned that this might be a drug you want to take in the morning. It may be helpful to read the below thread, as it explains the concepts of "brakes and accelerators" and how different types of drugs effect us. Some people find that taking a SSRI in the morning is best. Please let us know what you think after you have a change to read through the first post in this thread: Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 13 hours ago, ChessieCat said: See: This is very important to do: Keep Notes on Paper And also: Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable . 3/3/18 730am - Decent night of sleep 8 - 5mg Valium / 3 drops Decent morning. Anxious chest and heavy head. Feel slow Family fun outing Noon - lunch 1 - irritable, agitated, crawl out of skin, head pressure, depressed,burning, lips/face burning (morning valium wear off?) 245 - Tylenol 325mg reg strength Symptoms died down, but still there a bit 5 - dinner 6 - prozac .5mg liquid 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 10 - 7mg valium Physical Symptoms are minimal during evening 11 - bed Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Thanks. Had a horrible night last night. No sleep. Wondering if prozac is necessary with things balancing out with updose valium. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 4, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dabhob33 said: Thanks. Had a horrible night last night. No sleep. Wondering if prozac is necessary with things balancing out with updose valium. Please see my last post. I think it may be a timing issue - many people find the SSRIs to be activating and find it's best to take it in the morning. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 3/4/18 630am - didn’t sleep last night 8 - 5mg valium / .5mg prozac 9 - breakfast BURNING - this is getting worse! Restless Noon - lunch Laid on couch My wife is getting frustrated 4 - Son’s football game. Burning and jittery. 530 - magnesium drink 6 - dinner Burning 645 - Tylenol 325mg Very agitated with my family today. Not normal at all. Can’t get thought that I may be still dealing with rapid taper from a year ago. And I still have to balance and get off valium. Agitation and burning is too much. 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 10 - 7mg valium 1130 - sleep 3/5/18 1 - woke up burning meditating 630 - no sleep last night - ruminating /anxious, couldn’t settle down / burning / 325mg tylenol Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 6, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 6, 2018 Not a good idea to change 2 drugs at the same time. If I were you, I'd stop the Prozac for now and see what the benzo updose does. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ok. One of the staff mentioned doing it. I thought it’s a concensus thing when a suggestion is made like that. I’ll stop the Prozac. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted March 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dabhob33 said: Ok. One of the staff mentioned doing it. I thought it’s a concensus thing when a suggestion is made like that. I’ll stop the Prozac. Yes, I was one who suggested it, Dabhob. It was worth a try, as you had stopped sleeping and were heading into a crisis state. But in light of your reaction to the Prozac, Alto's suggestion is best. I'm sorry for the back and forth of suggestions as we try to get your drugs sorted out. Let's see how you do with the benzo updose. Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Thank you all for your help and concern. Can’t tell you how good it feels to have the educated support in my corner. Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 6, 2018 I hope things start settling down for you very soon. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Dabhob33 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 3/5/18 1 - woke up burning 630 - no sleep / burning / 325mg tylenol / eye drops 8 - breakfast / 5mg Valium / .5mg prozac 30 mins after valium heavy head and depressed 9 - psychiatrist - suggested Gabapentin to help with burning. Not filling it. Feeling ok Magnesium drink /omega 3 12 - lunch Feeling ok 130 - dozed off. Woke in panic. Feeling awful!!!! - heavy head and scared of sleep...dread it 2 - helped parents 330 - Tylenol 325mg 5 - dinner at parents (just me) - symptoms backed off, except for heavy head 8- 900mg Lithium / eye drops 830 - snack 10 - 7mg valium 11 - sleep / doxylamine - 12.5mg (need to take since no sleep for days) 5/6/18 8 - Slept through night Dabhob33 - Pristiq 25mg July 20, 2017 / 100mg November 29, 2017. Last dose 25mg December 20, 2017 - 28 yrs on antidepressants. Only other drug currently on is Lithium - 675mg. - 1st stint on benzos (100mg Librium) November 1, 2015 to January 1, 2017 (rapid taper) - 2nd stint on benzos (20mg Valium) started May 1 2017. Reinstated due to Librium rapid taper. Tapered 100mg pristiq in 4 weeks (Jan 2018). Currently tapered down to 10.5mg Valium where I began holding on February 12, 2018 due to rough patch. Using Ashton Method pill taper. Updose valium to 12mg on Feb 28, 2018 / Prozac .5mg March 3 - March 5, 2018 / March 13, 2018 - valium drop of .5 to 11.5mg Valium now 10mg as of May 23, 2018 Lithium 150mg August 8, 2017; 900mg August 23, 2017 Tested on July 13, 2018 .60 mmol/L result. Normal range is .60-1.00 mmol/L Took doxylamine sporadically (between 12mg and 25mg). Last taken on July 5, 2018. Don’t plan on continuing to take. I was given a 500mg dose of Levaquin for a UTI (ended up not having a UTI). Only one dose, but wreaked havoc on me. Is it still affecting me? Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 6, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Dabhob33 said: 5/6/18 8 - Slept through night That's good. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 6, 2018 Administrator Share Posted March 6, 2018 What part of the day do you NOT have burning? What does the burning feel like? Where is it? Is your bedroom darkened with blackout shades, curtains, etc.? Did the burning change at all after you took Prozac? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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