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Hi All--I go by Brassmonkey, but you can also call me Tom. I new to this group but mnot new to WD. I started on 20mg of Paxil 19 years ago and over the years built up to 40mg. Aboth three years ago it stafted causing mre problems than it helped. I was constently in a fog, couldn't remember anything more than a few seconds, had balance problems and very heavy night sweets. My drinking was also out of control. After some serious "discussions" with my wife I decided I had better do something.

My Dr said "if you want off, then just quit." I knew better from when I had to change from 30 CR to 30 regular and there was a problem with the Rx. Some web research lead me to a forum that suggested tapering at 10% a month. Sounded good to me, not being one to leave a good thnig alone, I decided to sneek up on the 10% by dropping 2.5% a week for 4 weeks and then holding for an additional 2 weeks. In the past 14 months I have dropped from the 40mg to 13.7mg and have to say that I have had very little trouble with the WD symptoms. They are there, but are fairly easy to handle.

A few weeks after starting my taper I joined AA and CTed the 15 oz a night vodka habit I had developed. I'm technically not sober 'cause I still enjoy 2 beers on most nights, but it's nothing like I was drinking. I recently switched from AA to DDA (dual diagnosced anon) and find that they tend to understand the AD problems a lot better. Oh yes, and my wife is very happy with the positive changes I have made.

That's the basics, I'll blither on more as the topics arise.

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Welcome aboard, Brassmonkey. I'm glad to hear that you're doing well in your withdrawal, but the speed of it makes me nervous. Paxil is the strongest of all the antidepressants and probably the most difficult one from which to withdraw. Often withdrawal symptoms are delayed by weeks to months in a too fast taper and suddenly pile up on a person.

 

You've made a lot of changes in a short time, so I suggest stopping where you are and holding for a month or so. If withdrawal symtpoms get worse, updose a bit. If not, proceed with caution.

 

We look forward to hearing more form you.

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Welcome, BrassM, and congratulations on taking care of yourself.

 

Are you calculating your decreases on the last dosage? They should be getting progressively smaller in amount.

 

Decreasing by 2.5% steps for 4 weeks is even more gradual for your brain than a 10% drop at a time. It's a fine idea and seems to be working for you.

 

Often people run into problems when they get down below half-dosage. If you get withdrawal symptoms, you might want to slow down a bit.

 

Paxil comes in a liquid that will help you do this.

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Welcome Brassmonkey,

 

you have done really well to get down to 13.7 mg in 14mths.. I have done a similar reduction schedule at times - a few microtapers a week apart followed by a longer hold. It makes those first few days after a 10% drop a little easier.

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Oops, I think I misunderstood how you were tapering. Consider my advice withdrawn. :blush:

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Hi Tom,

 

welcome to the forum.

 

I'm coming off citalopram too and am dreading the unmanageable withdrawal symptoms.

 

You seem to be going extremely well - more power to you!

 

I think what Jemima said is so true; that the WD symptoms can be delayed by weeks or months before they hit. I was going fine till the 7 week mark then the symptoms hit me. So we should always err on the side of caution for that reason.

 

Sounds like you've listen to your body and your gut instinct.

 

Good luck with your taper.

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Hi Brassmonkey, nice to see you again!

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Thanks for the warm welcome everyone, seems to be a great bunch here from the bits that I have read.

 

Jemima--right now I am planning on taking a break about the end of Feb '13 when I get to 10mg, give my brain a chance to catch up a bit, but it depends on how things go between now and then.

 

Aberdeen--good to see a familar face. I was feeling pretty lost when I had to CT the other forum. Hope your doing well.

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Hi, Bassmonkey, good to see another refugee from that other forum.

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Things have been going pretty good all week. WD symptoms are there but fairly mild so far. My head is a little foggy and I'm having concentration problems and thats about it for the minute. Monday I will finish my slide by dropping to 12.2mg and then stay there for three weeks.

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I hate foggy head, its like thinking in slow motion for me.

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Been having a quiet few days before Christmas. I'm off work for a week and a few days, so I'm taking the time to catch up on my sleep. Didn't leave my recliner for more than an hour on Saterday, and yesterday was just a few hours putting things away in the garage. I started the last part of my slide yesterday by dropping to 12.4mg, I'll staythere for three weeks and then start to slide again. BTW, what I am doing is to drop 2.5% a week for four weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks for a total of 10% every 6 weeks. It's really been working well with very manageable WD symptoms. I really recommend it to anyone who wants to keep their symptoms to a minimum.

 

Going to have a quiet holiday, just the two of us, then tomorrow it will start to get crazy, 'cause the washer died to the point we have to replace it, Monica need a car and several other things. Well atleast I have the time off to help with it.

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Well the shopping didn't happen, Monica wasn't feeling well, whe has been having stomach trouble for a week or so, and spent the day in bed. Being a dutiful husband I stayed with her and cuddled her all day, much more enjoyable than shopping for a washing machine. She is doing much better today, and says she really appriciated my staying with her. Been doing a bunch of stuff around the house, getting things cleaned up to start the new year right.

 

I am well into my latest slide and so far so good. My left hand is twitching, which is bothersome and I am getting tired easliy,but other than that it is going well.

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You sound like a nice hubby Brassmonkey! Glad to hear you're doing well on this slide!

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you DO sound like a nice hubby!

 

I have done similar reductions to yours brassmonkey - it really does help to keep the WD to a minimum - you just need to make sure you hold that extra couple of weeks without a reduction or it catches up with you

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Thanks for the compliments ladies. Monica is feeling much better.

 

I do go slowly on the taper, I do a two week hold after the full 10% is reached. Last November things got rather crazy (work related) for a while so I ended up holding for five weeks while it all blew over which helped, and I am thinking of taking a little break when I get to 10mg in a few months.

 

Going back to work after a couple of weeks off was a trial. Not the work it's self but the cold conditions and other events caused the WD to spring up making yesterday a pretty miseable day, dizzy, DR, anger and anxiety, not a good combination. It seems to have settled down a lot today so hopefully it was a quick flash inthe pan and not the start of a bad wave. Just noticed that my hands are shaking and I am having trouble typing, maye some lunch will help that.

 

Hope your all doing better today.

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Hi all I haven't been around for a while, but I'm back.  Things have really progressed since January (gees it's been that long? I am down to the single digits now and just dropped to 7.9mg this week.  It hasn't been with out it's trials though, all the typical symptoms with dizziness, brain fog, anhedonia and physical pain being the primary ones.  They are tending to come and go in cycles that pretty much follow the drops.

 

Hope everyone here is doing well.

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Good to hear. Thanks for the update.

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Hey Brass. Looks like we're back,lol. I hope this drop treats you well. I am so sick of feeling blah and waiting and waiting and nothing changing, morning angst etc...that i may do my drop next week regardless and just see what happens. I think we're in a tough spot right now that's all. We can do it!

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Hi Aberdeen-  yea, I just broke into the dreaded 7mg range.  The first day was rough, but so far the rest of the week has been pretty much WDnormal.  I think I was just too busy last weekend and it hung over onto Monday.  Now we have this other shock to deal with, I'm finding it rather upsetting. Maybe just pushing through and doing your drop will help, luckily you know that the morning stuff will pass later in the day.

 

WDnormal, I am having some dizziness an brain fog, it mainly shows up during breaks at work when I'm not distracted.  Still having some mild anhedonia at times, but in general my emotions have moved up to neutral most of the time instead of nothing.  I do have to keep an eye out for the triggers for my anger, but I'm getting pretty good at spotting them early and getting them under control.  Right now the physical pain has settled down, although my hands and arms are very tired and weak.  Have been getting some misc twitches and jerks, and my legs can get pretty jumpy in the evening.  My wife wanted to talk about some redecorating projects last night and I was able to follow and analyze things and make suggestions and generally cause trouble the entire time, but was pretty tired by the end of it.

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check your pm's...

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Hello everyone. I go be the name Brassmonkey.  I have posted here a few times in the past, but most of you won't remember me.  I am one of the flock of refuges recently from PaxilProgress.  My paxil odyssey began 20 some years ago when I was having  severe anger management problems.  There were a lot of factors involved and I really should have had counseling instead of drugs, but that is a story for another time.  In the beginning paxil served me well, really helping the situation.  Over the years is started to not work so well leading to several updoses and landing me finally on 40mg.  That dose didn't have any positive results and I slowly grew worse and worse, which I later learned was my slipping into tolerance, or what many affectionately know as poopout . (I love technical terms)  One of the tolerance issues was severe pain through out most of my body, which I self medicated with alcohol (bad move, but the over powering craving didn't help).  So three years ago, in poopout at 40mg, supporting a 15oz a night vodka habit and with my life going to h**l very quickly I managed to get lucid enough to make the decision to do something about the situation. 

 

I was considering a change to Wellbutrin (sp) and in researching it I discovered that the drug was my problem.  A little more research lead me to several forums where I learned about the proper way to taper at 10%.  Scared to death and being a symptom wimp I modified the recommended 10% every 6 weeks to sneak up on the symptoms by dropping 2.5% a week for four weeks and then holding an additional two weeks to let things settle out.  This plan was soon dubbed the Brassmonkey Slide Method, and has been quite effective for myself and a number of others.  Over the past three years I have tapered from the original 40mg to my present dose of 2.4mg.  It hasn't been with out incident, but I truly believe that Slide Method has made it quite bearable.  I also CTed the vodka around the same time, but allowed myself two beers a night until the cravings stopped.  I am fast approaching the two year mark of my sobriety, and rarely think about wanting a drink.

 

That's plenty about me for now, the rest will come out in the wash.

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HELLOOO Brassmonkey.  As another refugee from paxilprogress it was lovely to see this this morning,  XXXX

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Hello BrassMonkey!  Good to see you here.  I love how our former site's name gets censored here lol.

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Hello all! We almost need a thread for former PP-ers to re-meet!

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Hello all! We almost need a thread for former PP-ers to re-meet!

 

There are a lot of people popping up in the off-topic section under my post "**** is closing".  (I censored it myself lol)

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Hi Brassmonkey. It's good to see you here.  :)

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So good to see you Brass Monkey!!!!

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Hello there.  There are quite a few of us here from PP.  Glad to see you all.

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Good to see my PP friends.  It'll take a little while to get used to the subtle differences between the actual message board technology used here vs. "the site that shall not be named."

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Good to see everyone making the switch.  I hope they don't think we are trying to take over.

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Ha! Found ya Tom! Rumor on the street is that PP had to close because your journal was taking up too much space on the server. LOL

 

Glad to see you on here and am looking forward to keeping up with you. 

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Good to see everyone making the switch.  I hope they don't think we are trying to take over.

Not at all brassmonkey.  It is good to see you all.

 

By the way, you may or may not know but I posted as Palm on the site.

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HERE!!!!

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Hi Aberdeen and brass monkey! I was Sare2 over there but think I outstayed my welcome - a few could not deal with my insanity in this hell!

 

Lovely moderators on here (and members of course) who have helped me so much. I've always felt at home here...I hope you do too.

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And Palm - hello!

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