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Been scratching my scalp compulsively. Exacerbated by very itchy psoriasis. Of course the non-stop scratching causes hair loss and infections. Annoys my family too!

I have been on so many medications since I was 20 and diagnosed as "mentally ill" that I have lost count.

Right now, however I have been taking:

Lamictal 25 mg: I went on it in March for only 13 days, then cold turkeyed off when I thought I was developing a rash because of it. Pretended to go back on it, but didn't. Not the best idea, but I had no way to reduce the dose. Anyhow I had no adverse withdrawal reactions, probably because I was on it for less than 2 weeks.

Abilify 20 mg:  I have been on this for several years. Actually at least half the time I have spent as a meds "consumer" I have been on this nasty pill. I finished tapering off it at the beginning of 2016. Was reinstated during the 4 days I spent in a psych ward in March. Tapered off it again in 10 weeks, from say March 15-June 30. Needless to say this is not exact, but I remember I was off it before July 4 (patriotic holiday in America!) I am doing fine, although I know I may have to wait till Christmas or later to know I am out of the danger zone for withdrawal psychosis. The main thing I notice about being off is that I no longer crave sweets all the time and am losing weight without trying. Good thing since I used to weigh 350 lbs.!

Effexor 150 mg: This is the real trouble-maker. Since I have no other way of tapering I do the best I can by bead counting. I unscrew the gel capsule and count out the tiny micro-capsules or beads inside. This works fairly well with the generic time release version. Only 120 beads to count of almost identical size. Lately I have been "holding" at 20 bead removal due to some major stress in my life. Moving hundreds of miles from my old home and a bout of strep throat that wouldn't respond to antibiotics.  I guess that means I'm on 120 mg of Effexor right now. On October 16 I am going to recommence my taper since I am safely moved and no longer have strep! 

I admit now that I did something stupid. I had trouble opening the extra strength gel capsules containing the beads so I reinstated at the original dose for a week. I know it's not good to play ping pong with my brain, but I could never open the capsules without spilling those microscopic balls all over so I was never sure what dosage I was taking! Thank the LORD that I finally have the old kind again and can safely count out the amount. I am now back on 135 mg and feel somewhat better.

October 30, 2016. I am down to 120 mg effexor. November 27, 2016. Down to 105 mg effexor. December 25, 2016. 90 mg effexor. January 15, 2017. 75 mg effexor. January 21. 82.5 mg effexor. January 23, 90 mg again. Feb. 14, 81.25 mg. Mar. 15, 72.5 mg. Mar. 27, 65 mg.  Apr. 9, 58.75 mg. Apr. 24, 52.5 mg.

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I take NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) voor intrusive thoughts (this is my main issue for which I took antidepressants in the past). I've been on it for about 4 weeks and it seems te work. I think I'm going to buy another bottle (maybe the sustained version). I take 1000 mg in the morning on an empty stomach and 500-1000 mg late afternoon.
Still wondering about the inositol though...from all that I've read about inositol and OCD it looks like it works very good for some with OCD and for others with OCD it doesn't work one bit...
Maybe it's better for 'Pure O'?

 

All my life: Occasional panic attacks. 2003: Burnout  2004: intrusion (OCD'ish) / anxiety. Therapies: acupuncture, Chinese herbs, hypnotherapy --> symptoms were manageable (did return once in a while), depression lifted.
2007 - Relapse, started with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Therapist recommended Fevarin (fluvoxamine) 150 mg. Recovery after 3 months and remained stable. Mild side effects.
2009 - Tapered fluvoxamine. No withdrawal symptoms. 2010 - Relapse, same Pure O thought and anxiety.  Started taking 100 mg of fluvoxamine but after 9 weeks no change in symptoms. Did not have any effect on Pure O thought. Switched to Lexapro (escitalopram) 20 mg.  Drug started working within 3 weeks. Mild side effects. Slowly over the years tapered to 5 mg.
2015: Lots of personal issues and setbacks, occasional panic attack. 2016: April started skipping doses; 5mg escitalopram every other day (in hindsight a bad idea)
May: Major relapse, anxiety and intrusion returned. Depression. Increased from 2,5 mg 15 mg in two weeks. Side effects: neuro-emotions
June: Escitalopram has no effect on the frequency of the intrusion...after 4 weeks my general doctor advised me to do a fast taper to 5mg. Withdrawal effects (2/3 weeks): neuro-emotions, lack of focus, crying spells, fatigue, muscle twitches in legs, cortisol spikes just before waking up July: Stable on 5 mg. Depression and intrusion lifted during holiday (lots of sunshine, long walks and relaxing) August: Drop down to 2,5 mg. Withdrawal effects (tinnitus, headagues) are noticeable, but still mild in comparison to the big drop earlier.
22th August: stopped escitalopram completely. Cortisol spikes just before waking up, still OCD (only temporary improvements), WD-depression and WD-neuro emotions.
Update 6 dec: no medication, any withdrawal symptoms not noticable. Taking supplements for intrusive thoughts and overall well being: N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) omega 3 fish oils, zinc, vitamin d, magnesium l-threonate, ginko biloba

 

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Suzanne, Johnson and everyone:

An update on my symptoms and meditation.

Wonderful moderator Shep has got me on the benzo forum. All my more recent increased OCD symptoms and intrusive thoughts were due to my benzo taper.

I am currently working hard on my meditation daily.

I am using Wayne Dyer's "I Am Wishes Fufilled".

 

Suzanne, when those thoughts interfere during meditation, I was taught to just acknowledge them and bring myself back.

I also discovered a way to ground myself during meditation using something of soft texture in my hands.

I am using a soft blanket. I am rubbing the soft texture of it while meditating. I notice when a thought comes through other than my mantra, my fingers have stopped moving. I catch myself and bring myself back to focus.

I hope this helps. ;-)

I was on Lexapro 10mg, once a day for about 8 yrs combined with Abilify 2mg, once per day and Klonopin ,25-.50mg up to 4 times a day. Prior to that multiple trials of various SSRIs and low doses of unsuccessful various mood stabilizers in anticonvulsant category with the same dose of Klonopin for a total of over 16 yrs.[/font][/size]Withdrawal from Abilify around Aug. 2015 and slow taper of Lexapro began late Jan. 2016. As of January 2017 I am 11 months full withdrawal from Lexapro and was .25mg of Klonopin at night.(went to .25 klonopin at night only somewhere in October)<p>**Update with my Klonopin taper. I was on .25mg at night and .25mg in AM with varying doses of .125mg during day, maybe once or twice on as needed basis. Starting in early September 2016 reduction of .125mg day dose was decreased to only .25mg AM. Over 2-3 weeks was down to .125mg AM for about 3-4 weeks. As of sometime in October down to only .25mg at night. As of 1/7/17 I am updosed to an additional .25mg at night, for a total of .5mg. As of June 23, 2017 I am on a liquid tapered dose of klonopin. Current dose 4.1ml as of February 21, 2018**

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Hey Cheryl,

 

Sounds like you are making progress! Thanks for updating us.

 

Just curious how you learned to meditate? Was it from watching video's on youtube or did you take some kind of classes?

I've tried to meditate in the past with very little success. I usually give up within the first few minutes.

 

thanks and keep fighting!

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Hi Johnson!

I have been teaching myself.

Nothing resonated with me until a friend recommend Wayne Dyer. It's on YouTube.

He instructs you in the first part.

I am not great at it but I make it a morning routine practice.

This meditation is unique and positive thinking focused. You create what you want in your life.

Example: One of my mantras is "I Am in perfect health, I Am".

I've noticed through practice that I seem to handle stress better. I still have my days, like today...came home and did self-care.

I am "arming" myself for when I do my benzo taper properly.

I was on Lexapro 10mg, once a day for about 8 yrs combined with Abilify 2mg, once per day and Klonopin ,25-.50mg up to 4 times a day. Prior to that multiple trials of various SSRIs and low doses of unsuccessful various mood stabilizers in anticonvulsant category with the same dose of Klonopin for a total of over 16 yrs.[/font][/size]Withdrawal from Abilify around Aug. 2015 and slow taper of Lexapro began late Jan. 2016. As of January 2017 I am 11 months full withdrawal from Lexapro and was .25mg of Klonopin at night.(went to .25 klonopin at night only somewhere in October)<p>**Update with my Klonopin taper. I was on .25mg at night and .25mg in AM with varying doses of .125mg during day, maybe once or twice on as needed basis. Starting in early September 2016 reduction of .125mg day dose was decreased to only .25mg AM. Over 2-3 weeks was down to .125mg AM for about 3-4 weeks. As of sometime in October down to only .25mg at night. As of 1/7/17 I am updosed to an additional .25mg at night, for a total of .5mg. As of June 23, 2017 I am on a liquid tapered dose of klonopin. Current dose 4.1ml as of February 21, 2018**

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I'll check out Wayne on youtube once I build up enough patience for it thanks!

 

Glad to hear it's positive thinking focused. Keep thinking positive and keep fighting!

 

Best of luck to you when you decide to start your benzo taper. Can't remember if I asked you before

but do you have any support systems in place? Such as family, friends, spouse, siblings etc. Do you belong to any support groups?

Regardless I'm sure you'll always get support from people on this website and from myself as well if ever needed!

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I work in community mental health as a peer support specialist. I have lots of support from my team of case managers as well as close friends.

Family trys to understand as much as possible.

I basically need my space and down time because of how stressful my job is, so they respect that.

Thank you!!

I was on Lexapro 10mg, once a day for about 8 yrs combined with Abilify 2mg, once per day and Klonopin ,25-.50mg up to 4 times a day. Prior to that multiple trials of various SSRIs and low doses of unsuccessful various mood stabilizers in anticonvulsant category with the same dose of Klonopin for a total of over 16 yrs.[/font][/size]Withdrawal from Abilify around Aug. 2015 and slow taper of Lexapro began late Jan. 2016. As of January 2017 I am 11 months full withdrawal from Lexapro and was .25mg of Klonopin at night.(went to .25 klonopin at night only somewhere in October)<p>**Update with my Klonopin taper. I was on .25mg at night and .25mg in AM with varying doses of .125mg during day, maybe once or twice on as needed basis. Starting in early September 2016 reduction of .125mg day dose was decreased to only .25mg AM. Over 2-3 weeks was down to .125mg AM for about 3-4 weeks. As of sometime in October down to only .25mg at night. As of 1/7/17 I am updosed to an additional .25mg at night, for a total of .5mg. As of June 23, 2017 I am on a liquid tapered dose of klonopin. Current dose 4.1ml as of February 21, 2018**

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Yes I am going through at the moment for the last 3 weeks everyday I feel suicidel just want a end to my suffering , but the the thoughts really frighten me and causes me great distress as I don’t want to die and I am so scared to do it , but my mind keeps telling me it’s the only relief I will find , did it go away for you ,

2001 to jan 2015 Effexor 150 mg 

jan 2015 15 mg mirtazapine 20 mg quetiapine 

feb 2015 quetiapine stopped 

feb 2015 30 mg of citalopram added 

feb 2015 mirtazapine increased to 30 mg 

july 2015 citalopram stopped 

sept 2015 200mg of pregabalin 

jan 2017 mirtazapine stopped

jan 2017 20 mg fluoxetine

march 2017 all meds stopped 

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Any stories that anyone wants to share?  I'm 4 years out and still experience a lot of neurosis when it comes to certain parts of my life.  It's exhausting.  I dwell on cleanliness and perfectionism and experience repetitive actions that only cease once the anxiety ceases.  When the anxiety takes hold, a great pressure descends on my brain.  I care too much about how I look/smell when I am out and this is not like my original self.  I use to be so carefree.  How do you manage yours?

<p>10 years of ssri and finally tapered off in 2 years. Off Celexa by jan/28/2014 and off benzos by March/6th/2014 after only two months use and still experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

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Topic title:  Methods of dealing with anxiety both withdrawal and non withdrawal related

 

Hello all,

 

Even though I am in withdrawal I have realized that a lot of the mental aspects of my current state may not be due to the actual condition itself but may be part of my underlying OCD, depression and post traumatic stress. I have a variety of mental symptoms that I have developed throughout all of this that are mainly due to the nature of the condition, but are part of my underlying anxiety disorders. For one, I am struggling with “symptom checking” and am MUCH too aware of my body. My focus has turned toward every ache and pain, every nerve issue, every mood swing or episode of fatigue. I wake up and the first thing my mind does is notice I’m tired, fatigued and don’t feel well, etc. then I stand up and notice my feet hurt and I feel like an 80 year old at the age of 27. Or that my vision feels off and I don’t feel “right” in my own body. Or my knees hurt etc. Paying too much attention to every sensitivity etc. being way too much “in my head.” Not being able to let go of things or live somewhat geacefully. Though this hyper awareness is somewhat helpful in the sense that it has helped me realize I need to create certain limits for myself right now, it has been incredibly detrimental to recovery, since these are all thinking behaviors that add to stress levels which is not coherent with the recovery process. For one thing, it is probably adding to my underlying fatigue as all of this hyoerareweness and extra thinking is draining in itself. Without achieving some kind of mental flow I don’t see my body and mind getting into a better place. I have been in intensive CBT throughout all of this, but I haven’t found much benefit from it. I have always had OCD and other issues and struggled with those my whole life and at some times they have been under control but right now it is out of control and needs to improve somehow. I would like to become less hyper aware and more present but my levels of dissociation are pretty severe and it’s hard not to notice these things. I am wondering if anyone else has struggled with this and what has helped them. So far for me, the only thing that has helped somewhat  has been distraction, such as trying to stay occupied at work when I can make it in, trying to sing along to music in the car, focusing on my breath, or socializing, to an extent. My mental focus is not currently “grounded” so to speak in the sense that my mind is so preoccupied with my body and what is going on, that I find it nearly impossible to stay focused on one thing or on the external world in reality. If anyone has found any benefit from anything for issues similar this to these I would love to hear what helped you. It doesn’t have to even be about these particular obsessive issues—any kind of benefit for any type of obsessive/compulsive behavior during withdrawal and maybe even after. 

 

Thanks,

 

Noloft 

 

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2001-2017-worked my way up from 25mg of zoloft and 2mg of Concerta to 200mg of zoloft and 36mg of Concerta

February 2017-Stopped Concerta cold turkey

September 2017-Added 2mg of Abilify

November 2017-came off Abilify

December 2017-began taper of zoloft 50mg a week while tapering on to Viibryd

January 2018-back on zoloft 200mg

February 2018--tapered off zoloft over a month onto 40mg of prozac

April 2018-CT prozac due to suspected "serotonin syndrome"

 

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@Noloft, I can certainly relate to every word. You have just described me to a tee. I am currently 4.5 months in on a zoloft RI and I'm very symptomatic. Because I've had only minor improvements so far I am obsessed and fearful of every symptom; every sensation; every emotion. I have just started therapy, and I am hopeful that it will help. We have started with traditional talk therapy, as I have PTSD and need to "unpack" some issues, but we will be moving into CBT in a few weeks' time. Have you considered therapy?

2016 - Zoloft 50 mg for klonopin w/d

Approx. Nov 2017 - successful taper of klonopin; Approx. Jan. 2018 - rapid taper Zoloft over 2 wks - no w/d symptoms; May 2018 - Reinstate 50 mg Zoloft per doctor; Aug 2018 - Rapid taper Zoloft over 3-4 weeks - no w/d symptoms for 1 mo.; Late Oct 2018 - pdoc rx'd 5mg lexapro -took for 1 wk; Early Nov 2018 - Reinstate 25 mg Zoloft; updose to 37.5 on Nov 28, 2018; Nov 30 2018 - returned to 25mg Zoloft upon mod. advice; Dec 9 - Dec10 2018 - 12.5mg zoloft liquid+12.5mg zoloft pill; Dec 11 2018 - 25mg zoloft all liquid; Feb 14 2019 - updosed to 26.25 mg liquid; Mar 6 2019 - updosed to 26.88 mg liquid - new symptoms; Mar 13 2019 - back down to 26.25 mg per mod suggestion

Dose Changes: Dec 2 2019 - 5% to 25mg; Jan 14 2020 - 10% to 22.5 (increase in sxs all month); Mar 10-15? 2020,  accidental updose to 25mg; Mar 22 2020 - back down to 22.5mg; Apr 12 2020 - 2.5% to 21.94mg; Apr 19 2020 - 2.5% to 21.375mg (symptom increase); May 17 2020 - 2.5% to 20.625mg; May 24 2020 - 2.5% to 20.1mg - Jun 14 2020 - noticed uptick in symptoms settled 2 days later - July 10 2020 - onset of wave

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yes. zoloft and lexapro

2020, October the 2nd

(in this members words)

Off the offending meds now for 1.5 years

Zoloft, Lexapro, then a whole ton of drugs i was destroyed by in hospitals

 

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can anyone recommend any short meditation videos? all the ones i search for are overly long and i don't get a whole lot of time to myself without being interrupted. 

i really need to get a handle on my ocd thoughts as it's gotten so far out of control since i stopped my meds. 

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg 

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Hi thecowisback, I dont know if this will help you but I have been overthinking myself to death too.  What calms me is I put on a fireplace dvd on the tv and just sit there gazing at it.  After awhile watching the burning logs and flickering flames, it starts to calm m.  I just let my thoughts come and go as they like.  Sometimes I get real insight into things I might be struggling with.

1995 - 2003 - Lithium -(300 mg 2xday), Paxil - (20mg),  2003 - Stopped Lithium, Paxil eventually increased up to 50 mg  

 

beginning Paxil reduction:

October 14, 2017 46 mg., Jan 2018  42 mg., April  40 mg,  Feb 8, 2019  37 mg,  Feb. 23,  35 mg.(approx),  March 22,  40 Holding

 

Levothyroxin - 112/125 mcg, Profanone - 150 mg, Metoprolol - 25 mg Telmisartan - 40 mg, Altostatin - 10 mg , Calcium, Vitamin, Magnesium, Fish Oil

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thanks i'll try that ☺

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg 

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On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 10:46 PM, Noloft said:

Topic title:  Methods of dealing with anxiety both withdrawal and non withdrawal related

 

Hello all,

 

Even though I am in withdrawal I have realized that a lot of the mental aspects of my current state may not be due to the actual condition itself but may be part of my underlying OCD, depression and post traumatic stress. I have a variety of mental symptoms that I have developed throughout all of this that are mainly due to the nature of the condition, but are part of my underlying anxiety disorders. For one, I am struggling with “symptom checking” and am MUCH too aware of my body. My focus has turned toward every ache and pain, every nerve issue, every mood swing or episode of fatigue. I wake up and the first thing my mind does is notice I’m tired, fatigued and don’t feel well, etc. then I stand up and notice my feet hurt and I feel like an 80 year old at the age of 27. Or that my vision feels off and I don’t feel “right” in my own body. Or my knees hurt etc. Paying too much attention to every sensitivity etc. being way too much “in my head.” Not being able to let go of things or live somewhat geacefully. Though this hyper awareness is somewhat helpful in the sense that it has helped me realize I need to create certain limits for myself right now, it has been incredibly detrimental to recovery, since these are all thinking behaviors that add to stress levels which is not coherent with the recovery process. For one thing, it is probably adding to my underlying fatigue as all of this hyoerareweness and extra thinking is draining in itself. Without achieving some kind of mental flow I don’t see my body and mind getting into a better place. I have been in intensive CBT throughout all of this, but I haven’t found much benefit from it. I have always had OCD and other issues and struggled with those my whole life and at some times they have been under control but right now it is out of control and needs to improve somehow. I would like to become less hyper aware and more present but my levels of dissociation are pretty severe and it’s hard not to notice these things. I am wondering if anyone else has struggled with this and what has helped them. So far for me, the only thing that has helped somewhat  has been distraction, such as trying to stay occupied at work when I can make it in, trying to sing along to music in the car, focusing on my breath, or socializing, to an extent. My mental focus is not currently “grounded” so to speak in the sense that my mind is so preoccupied with my body and what is going on, that I find it nearly impossible to stay focused on one thing or on the external world in reality. If anyone has found any benefit from anything for issues similar this to these I would love to hear what helped you. It doesn’t have to even be about these particular obsessive issues—any kind of benefit for any type of obsessive/compulsive behavior during withdrawal and maybe even after. 

 

Thanks,

 

Noloft 

 

So like me too.   I think you are my long lost twin, however I am much older.   I can relate to all you are saying. its so tiring.

 9/2018- lexapro low dose few days.11/3/2018- zoloft 2 days

11/7/18  - 11/15/18 - Prozac 9 days, from 10 mg for week, to 20

11/16  inpatient put on Lexapro for a few days, Cymbalta, 2 days

11/24-12/8 - gabapentin 100 mg 3xs per day - a very fast taper

1/7 - tbuspar for  three days- blurry vision, jerky eye

1/17/19 - 2/15/19- mirtazapine 15 mg - started taper on 1/30 

2/20/19 gabapentin 600 mg. .  12/20-  taper finished

2/20/19 - seroquel 25 mg current - taken  10 pm

2/20/19- luvox (generic) 25 mg.  4/6/19  to 18.75 mg .held  . Started taper again  1/7/21- 15 mg, 2/7/21- 12.5 mg, 3/7/21 -10 mg, 4/1/21- 9 mg, 5/1/21- 8.1 mg, 5/27/21- updose to 10 mg,  6/21-  in patient updose to 50 mg,  6/25/21- reduce to 10 mg (current) .  9/5- split dose 5mg am/5 mg pm.  9/20- 4 mg am/5 mg pm . 

9/1/21-  took one dose of vistril 50 mg.   

9/1/21-accidental double dose of seroquel- 50 mg 

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11 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

I have have the same exact obsessions to a t. I wish I had some good advise but I haven’t found any relief accept for alchohol, which is only temporary. I too need to keep buisy to try to occupy my mind.

11 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

 

 

11 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

 

11 hours ago, BfromNJ said:

 

 

Paxil 10 mg 2012-Feb 12 2017. Paxil 20mg paxil feb-12 2017- july 2017. Mirtazepine 40 mg June 2017-august 2017. Alchoholic 1993-feb-12 2017. I quit alchohol cold turkey and all antidepressents cold turkey. 

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?) The ocd has become relentless. It really likes to focus on the things I love most. I

Are you still around? Has this gotten less intense for you? I am in the same boat now. Never really had to deal with the imics bc I used the drugs, but now it’s non stop and relentless. I’m just praying it mellows out to a manageable level...

med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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my ocd was bad before i took the meds. that's the reason i started prozac, but since i stopped it's unbearable and non of the coping mechanisms i've used in the past seem to make a dent in it. 

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg 

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I started getting OCD when I was going on and off anti-depressants in college. I still do not know if this started organically for me, or it was a WD reaction. I never had it like that before. I experience harm intrusive thoughts. Every time I would go back on, the thoughts would go away all together, although I would need a higher dose to get back to base-line. Thats how I ended up at 20mg lexapro. 

 

NOW, since tapering to 4.5mg,  it is non stop. I also have new "themes" now and it makes it impossible to socialize. Not to mention all of the other WD effects I am experiencing. 

 

Has anyone with organic OCD gotten MUCH worse during the taper/WD, and has this lessened for you the longer you heal? 

My goal was to manage my OCD on my own, and to get off these drugs. I also wanted to have a baby. I would rather be on medication than feel like this. 

 

I just need to know if this will/might get back to a manageable level, or should I just attempt going back up to my original dose? I know there is always danger in that too, but I have done that in the past and it did work for me then. 

 

med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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From My personal experience I would guess your ocd will not subside. I have been off an AD for about 2 years and my ocd is stronger than ever, maybe more than before the AD. It’s been there the whole time but I didn’t pay as much attention to it. Thank god the anxiety and depression has decreased to a manageable level after my brain adjusted to not having the drug a anymore. I still have hi anxiety that the ocd causes but it is way more  Manageable. Only time would tell if the ocd you are having will subside. In your case it might, especially if you never had it before. For me I always had ocd but It has been 100 percent worse since the AD stopped working and put me in tolerance WD. Don’t get discouraged. If medication would take my ocd away I would gladly be on it so I could enjoy my life to the fullest.

Paxil 10 mg 2012-Feb 12 2017. Paxil 20mg paxil feb-12 2017- july 2017. Mirtazepine 40 mg June 2017-august 2017. Alchoholic 1993-feb-12 2017. I quit alchohol cold turkey and all antidepressents cold turkey. 

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3 minutes ago, Madman270 said:

For me I always had ocd but It has been 100 percent worse since the AD stopped working and put me in tolerance WD.

So it is worse than before you started the pill? Two years out? Do you see it decreasing at all?

 How long were you on the pills, and what dose? 

med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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It wasn’t until after the drug that It started getting out of hand. I originally went on the drug for dep/anxiety. I always had mostly pure-o and some intrusive thoughts but everything became overwhelming and non stop at the end. After 2 years off the med the obsessions are still bad but they go away quicker and are more intermittent. I was on Paxil 10mg for about 13 years and also drank a lot. 

Paxil 10 mg 2012-Feb 12 2017. Paxil 20mg paxil feb-12 2017- july 2017. Mirtazepine 40 mg June 2017-august 2017. Alchoholic 1993-feb-12 2017. I quit alchohol cold turkey and all antidepressents cold turkey. 

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Those who had OCD before taking an SSRI may find my story (and recommended book) useful.

 

Disclaimer: I do not know if an OCD-like state can be caused by iatrogenesis, and if it can, whether that state can mimic true OCD. In light of that, I still recommend trying CBT because I don't think it can cause any harm. I am not a doctor though but as far as I know, there are no nasty side effects associated with CBT!

 

I conquered my OCD, which I had before fluoxetine, using CBT. I am currently on only ~0.5mg fluoxetine. I have been off fluoxetine before, after a bad taper and my OCD was not affected by withdrawing the drug. This didn't surprise me because fluoxetine did not help me with OCD. Often, it made things worse through its myriad side effects and mood destabilization. Beyond its inefficacy, it kept me asleep for ~12 hours a day and drowsy for the rest, which made fighting OCD that much harder.

 

I consider myself cured of OCD, something that is often claimed to be impossible. I concede that this claim is moot so I shall put it in other words, that may make it seem more reasonable: OCD hasn't bothered me for 3 years and it still doesn't, at all. I did it by using this book:-

 

Break Free from OCD: Overcoming Obsessive Compulsive Disorder with CBT Paperback – October 17, 2011; by Dr. Fiona Challacombe, Dr. Victoria Bream Oldfield, Professor Paul Salkovskis

 

If you've not given it a go, I recommend it. I think I bought all the books I could find on OCD at the time and this was the only one that really helped me profoundly with cognition and behavior. I decided to do my own CBT with this book because there was no therapist nearby that was trained in CBT. 

 

As I read through the book, several times, and really put in the work with the CBT exercises, I started to benefit from them and it was then that I realized slowly that fluoxetine was doing nothing for me. Consequently, I decided to withdraw it slowly but still too fast for safety. Fluoxetine or any psychiatric medication was never going to be a long term option for me anyway. Furthermore, there was and as far as I know still is little evidence that SSRIs minimize symptoms of OCD and I think there's still no evidence that it treats it, let alone cures it; CBT is still the gold standard.

 

For those wondering about my OCD: I had it in my late teens and all my adult life. It became worse as time went on and consumed me almost completely in the end. OCD can present with co-morbid depression, which is sometimes secondary and combined they can lead to severe or ultimate self-destruction. Sadly, I saw a PCP before a psychologist and made the worst decision of my life: I took paroxetine then fluoxetine, because at the time, I didn't know what I had. Later I saw a psychologist and was diagnosed with OCD. I was taught some basic and useful panic and anxiety coping mechanisms, before turning to the book above. 

 

I've said this a few times on SA: OCD is horrific and I wouldn't wish it on anyone but SSRI withdrawal, for me, was far worse than it and remains so to this day. If you have OCD, you have my sympathy and I urge you to keep challenging it, because with enough time and effort, there's a good chance it will back down - forever. 

2012: 2 weeks of paroxetine, I cannot recall the dose. Strong side effects, stopped cold turkey, had intense, horrible withdrawal thereafter

2012 to 2016: Fluoxetine 40mg daily, sometimes 20mg daily, a couple of bad tapers under doctor's advisement, increasingly bad withdrawal symptoms with each major dose change

Oct 2016 to June 2017: 10-month reinstatement of 20mg fluoxetine daily to stabilize. A very difficult period but withdrawal gradually improved

July 2017: At 20mg (100%), started a linear tapering regimen using water titration (20mg fluoxetine into 300ml of water).

June 2019: Currently at 0.200mg (1.00%). I have many symptoms, most I attribute to fluoxetine, some to withdrawal, and the rest to hypothyroidism. Continuing to reduce anyway.

July 2019: Jumped from 0.066mg (0.33%) to 0.000mg (0.00%); I'm now free of the poison.

 

My introduction thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/14226-kittygiggles-generic-prozac-fluoxetine-stabilization/

 

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@Kittygiggles thanks for the message of hope. My OCD did entirely go away with ssri’s and it comes back 100xs worse in WD. That is my worst symptom. Besides the new crazy PMS times amd anger/rage. 

There are so many styles, types, and spectrums of OCD. Can I ask what you suffered with? Mine are intrusive thoughts and urges. Urges being the worst. They are non stop in WD. They aren’t like the normal kind you get, where techniques help.  

Thanks! 

med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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how long did you taper? They are getting better though? Mine are non stop now towards the end of my taper. 

med history: 17 years total

Concerta: 2 yrs - cold turkey, brought on first "depression" 

Short trials of Zoloft and Effexor: 1-3 years - multiple cold turkey's brought on OCD intrusive thoughts for the first time

Lexapro 15-20 mg (16 yrs)  - tried to quit once, cold turkey, worst WD ever, had to go on to 20mg to stop WD

Welbutrin 150mg (8-ish yrs) NO w/d symptoms from CT

Adderall 5-7.5mg (8-10-ish yrs) quit CT, brought on many WD symptoms, but manageable. 

 

Begin taper March 2018 Currently on 4.4 mg lexapro - down from 20mg

 

Symptoms depression, horrible intrusive thoughts and urges, new onset PMS/PMDD, constant extreme irritation and anger, visual hallucinations, irrational thinking patterns, panic, nausea, dizzy, intolerance to working out, chemical sensitivities, noise sensitivities, memory issues, heart palps, etc. 

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2 hours ago, Peachy said:

@Kittygiggles thanks for the message of hope. My OCD did entirely go away with ssri’s and it comes back 100xs worse in WD. That is my worst symptom. Besides the new crazy PMS times amd anger/rage. 

There are so many styles, types, and spectrums of OCD. Can I ask what you suffered with? Mine are intrusive thoughts and urges. Urges being the worst. They are non stop in WD. They aren’t like the normal kind you get, where techniques help.  

Thanks! 

 

Hi Peachy, thank you for reading what I wrote. I am glad that you found complete relief while you were on an SSRI. By techniques, I guess you are referring to CBT, which means you probably tried some and found it less than helpful.

 

Edit: sorry, I just read your signature, your symptoms are horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that. So, I wrote what I did below without realizing how hard it might be for you to focus on CBT. In which case, I apologize. I'll leave it up though in case someone else finds it useful but I realize now that I might have come off as patronizing, which was not my intention at all!

 

Well, if you didn't know already, part of the CBT for OCD is acknowledging that your compulsions and obsessions may vary but the underlying disorder is the same for each of them. I think it is a hallmark of an OCD sufferer to demarcate their version from everyone else's. I used to do this too but it is simply a manifestation of the disorder and inhibits recovery. Some cognitive correction may be required if your obsessions are patently unfounded but for the most part, you just follow the CBT recipe for whatever ails you at the moment. As you may have noticed, your current, most frightening obsession usually changes, and moves on to the next one in a cycle. Just when you feel you've gotten over one, another one comes along and with enough time, you revisit that first one and it may appear even more frightening than ever before!

 

If you've never done CBT for your OCD then identifying your obsessions and compulsions is a good start. I too had 'intrusive' thoughts but labeling them as such is part of the puzzle. In OCD, like in normal people, all thoughts are for the most part normal. OCD sufferers label thoughts as 'intrusive' often because they are egodystonic and their emotional response to them is strong. This strong feeling is interpreted as a sign of the thought's validity and fuels an urgent need to perform a compulsion, for example, to neutralize the thought, or prevent something bad from happening.

 

I'm sorry if my description of things is hazy but it's been so long since I dealt with all this. About a year or two ago it was all still fresh but I guess it's good news that in the last year at least, I have forgotten all about my OCD, which is not something I'd ever thought I'd say! I'm not trained to provide CBT or diagnose OCD but if you want to message me about any hurdles you face when dealing with CBT or OCD, I'd be willing to help point you in the right direction. The best advice I can give though is the book above because no matter your flavor of OCD, it should respond to CBT. 

 

I used to use a really helpful OCD forum but from my last experience, the staff there are still very much pro-SSRIs, and will push people towards them, which is a shame as they have some good advice for interpreting the CBT for OCD. They at least acknowledge that SSRIs don't treat OCD but may mask or suppress symptoms in some. Here's the link, if I'm allowed to post it: https://www.ocdforums.org/. I used to just go there and not participate, just to read countless stories of people's OCD, their failures and success stories, and recognize my own flavor of OCD was similar to pretty much everyone else's in one way or another. Learning from their mistakes and applying the good advice to my own situation was helpful, as I worked through the OCD book above. 

 

The thing with an OCD forum is that it might be best as a temporary measure for the first year or so as you get to grips with CBT. Most people who hang around there have done so for years and are still suffering from the disorder. I'm not sure if visiting the forum is inhibiting their recovery. Perhaps they have developed some coping mechanism that involves the forum, or maybe the forum perpetuates a false belief that their obsessions need external validation as false, which could undermine their autonomous efforts to recover using CBT techniques. I liken it to seeing a therapist even though your CBT course is over, at some point, it can become detrimental to one's recovery to keep hanging out with your therapist! I could be wrong though but I thought I'd share my opinion about it.

 

I visited briefly before responding to you and saw some names I still recognize there from over 7 years ago, and they are classified as sufferers still. CBT doesn't work for everyone though but there could be many reasons for that. It isn't perfect but I guess a forum will attract those for which CBT didn't work, so you get a disproportionate representation of the efficacy of CBT for OCD. 

2012: 2 weeks of paroxetine, I cannot recall the dose. Strong side effects, stopped cold turkey, had intense, horrible withdrawal thereafter

2012 to 2016: Fluoxetine 40mg daily, sometimes 20mg daily, a couple of bad tapers under doctor's advisement, increasingly bad withdrawal symptoms with each major dose change

Oct 2016 to June 2017: 10-month reinstatement of 20mg fluoxetine daily to stabilize. A very difficult period but withdrawal gradually improved

July 2017: At 20mg (100%), started a linear tapering regimen using water titration (20mg fluoxetine into 300ml of water).

June 2019: Currently at 0.200mg (1.00%). I have many symptoms, most I attribute to fluoxetine, some to withdrawal, and the rest to hypothyroidism. Continuing to reduce anyway.

July 2019: Jumped from 0.066mg (0.33%) to 0.000mg (0.00%); I'm now free of the poison.

 

My introduction thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/14226-kittygiggles-generic-prozac-fluoxetine-stabilization/

 

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Right now, ROCD is my biggest uphill battle with the wd symptoms, but I believe it's getting better, the more I try to sit with the thoughts. I am trying to combat this on my own, and I think I'm doing ok all things considered.

 

I suffer from ROCD, which is newish for me. However, for as long as I can remember I've counted by twos in my head and with my fingers. Listening to music I will count by 2's with my fingers to the beat, heck there doesnt even have to be music and I'll be counting away. Ive never put much thought into it, but i guess maybe I've always suffered from some sort of OCD. Now that I suffer from wd related anxiety, it seems to be bringing forward a different type of OCD. Is this normal for it to morph? 

 

I've just downloaded the NOCD app, and I'm 'excited' to dig in and tackle this. Right now, a therapist is not an option for me so I'm curious what other people are doing to get through their obsessive thoughts?

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Peachy, In short I quit 3 cold turkey, then was put on 3 other meds. Prozac was the last Ssri I’ve been on. I tapered It on my own at about 2 mg every 2 weeks, I think it was around 5 months. I wasn’t having WD from that tho It was the Paxil. I feel better these days but I do take Lamictal and Gabapentin, neither anti depressants.  it wasn’t until I started Gabapentin  for The prior Paxil WD that I started feeling a lot better. I still have all my ocd symptoms, but things are much better. I have slowly been tapering off the gaba, it’s been about a month now. I want to get completely off everything if I can. I will however always

Paxil 10 mg 2012-Feb 12 2017. Paxil 20mg paxil feb-12 2017- july 2017. Mirtazepine 40 mg June 2017-august 2017. Alchoholic 1993-feb-12 2017. I quit alchohol cold turkey and all antidepressents cold turkey. 

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I am really having a rough day. I am 14 months into withdrawal and my physical symptoms have improved dramatically. But my thoughts are so repetitive and I cannot control them and they are making me extremely depressed. I have had intrusive and obsessive thoughts for 10 months straight now and I hardly get any relief ever. They were images for about nine months and now it is just the same word that repeats in my head all day long and I cannot stop it. It is a distressing word to me and this all is driving me crazy. I don't have any physical anxiety associated with obsessive thoughts it's like I just live in my head all day. Please tell me this gets better.

April 2011 - citalopram 20 mg

April 2018 - tapered in 4 weeks

Nov 2018 - reinstated 20 mg

Stopped 8 days later bad reaction

November 5 2020 - reinstated citalopram 0.5mg. Increase to 1mg

November 10 2020 - stopped citalopram.  

December 8 2020 - reinstate 2.5mg citalopram. Stayed on until December 17

December 20 2020 - discontinue citalopram again 

Dec 2020 - start ativan for akathisia 

Nov 2020 to Jan 2021 - tried low dose Seroquel, Risperidone, Luvox, Zoloft and Prozac. just added symptoms no benefit

Feb 2021 - ativan went paradoxical. landed in hospital. cold turkeyed.

Totally drug free since Feb 21, 2021

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i'm still struggling with terrible ocd. i'm back on a low dose of prozac - 8mg to date, but my ocd is still as bad as ever. i know i need to get a handle in it without the meds and have read every book i can lay my hands on but nothing has helped. i wish i had some helpful advice. i guess kittygiggles has the best advice above. i hope you find some peace soon x. 

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg 

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Thank you for your reply. The weird thing is it doesn't even feel like OCD. I have had OCD since I was 6 years old and I didn't go on meds until I was 29 and I didn't go on them for OCD I went on for a situational depression. All my life when I've had OCD I've done compulsions. I don't feel like I do any compulsions now I just have extremely repetitive thoughts. And even though they're harm thoughts in nature I don't actually feel like I'm worried that I'll act on them. When I had OCD at a younger age my obsessive thoughts were accompanied by terrible fear. Fear that I would act on my thoughts. But I don't have any of that now. I don't feel physically afraid I don't ask myself what if. I just have repetitive thoughts that drive me crazy. Did you find any relief at all when you reinstated?

April 2011 - citalopram 20 mg

April 2018 - tapered in 4 weeks

Nov 2018 - reinstated 20 mg

Stopped 8 days later bad reaction

November 5 2020 - reinstated citalopram 0.5mg. Increase to 1mg

November 10 2020 - stopped citalopram.  

December 8 2020 - reinstate 2.5mg citalopram. Stayed on until December 17

December 20 2020 - discontinue citalopram again 

Dec 2020 - start ativan for akathisia 

Nov 2020 to Jan 2021 - tried low dose Seroquel, Risperidone, Luvox, Zoloft and Prozac. just added symptoms no benefit

Feb 2021 - ativan went paradoxical. landed in hospital. cold turkeyed.

Totally drug free since Feb 21, 2021

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2 hours ago, Daisygirlsk said:

Thank you for your reply. The weird thing is it doesn't even feel like OCD. I have had OCD since I was 6 years old and I didn't go on meds until I was 29 and I didn't go on them for OCD I went on for a situational depression. All my life when I've had OCD I've done compulsions. I don't feel like I do any compulsions now I just have extremely repetitive thoughts. And even though they're harm thoughts in nature I don't actually feel like I'm worried that I'll act on them. When I had OCD at a younger age my obsessive thoughts were accompanied by terrible fear. Fear that I would act on my thoughts. But I don't have any of that now. I don't feel physically afraid I don't ask myself what if. I just have repetitive thoughts that drive me crazy. Did you find any relief at all when you reinstated?

Hi Daisy

 

It sounds like you may have the key to managing your OCD in your own statement.  If you'e not afraid of the thoughts then you've robbed them of their power.  One thing I've been working on is accepting that the thoughts will come, but not attaching any value to them beyond that.  I try to picture the thoughts as items on a conveyor belt.  They show up for a moment in time and then pass by and out of my mind.  They may keep coming back but when you realize they only have the power you give them, they will become nothing more than an annoyance. 

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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i haven't had any relief from ocd since reinstating but the depression i got during withdrawal is much improved. 

i know i attach too much importance to my thoughts. the one i have today tells me i did something wrong in the past and i must be punished for it, even though my family say i did nothing wrong. it's almost as if the constant feelings of fear are my punishment. 

hopefully your will fade soon daisygirl if you aren't fearing them they sound almost like a constant earworm 😞

Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years.

January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began.

Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily

Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan:  26 Feb 2019, 4mg.

Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019

Reinstated prozac:  14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg 

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33 minutes ago, thecowisback said:

i haven't had any relief from ocd since reinstating but the depression i got during withdrawal is much improved. 

i know i attach too much importance to my thoughts. the one i have today tells me i did something wrong in the past and i must be punished for it, even though my family say i did nothing wrong. it's almost as if the constant feelings of fear are my punishment. 

hopefully your will fade soon daisygirl if you aren't fearing them they sound almost like a constant earworm 😞

This is/was my primary manifestation of OCD--the feeling that any mistake I made was terrible and deserved punishment.  The therapist I worked with had a Christian aspect to his practice and was able to help me realize God isn't a cosmic accountant who tallies points for good deed and deducts for sins.  Even when He corrects us, He doesn't torment us for the rest of our lives. Another name for Satan is "The Accuser", so if you're of a spiritual bent, you know who keeps putting that bug in our ears. 

Tim C

Started Paxil for GAD in 1999

Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006

Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009

Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety

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It is important to remember, at least in my case, that a lot of these symptoms are withdrawal and not the real me. Repetitive thoughts and OCD are very very common withdrawal symptoms and they often manifest differently than anything you ever experienced in the past because it's not you, it's your brain rewiring and trying to do it's thing. OCD has been relentless for me too but telling myself this isn't really me and not attaching any meaning to my thoughts has been somewhat helpful. I have these thoughts almost 24/7 but I try my hardest not to give them any attention or power and think of it more as just useless chatter, like radio static !

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