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Oh my! So you were taking care of your mom through your whole taper/WD. What an ordeal! My heart goes out to you!

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Dani

Oh my! So you were taking care of your mom through your whole taper/WD. What an ordeal! My heart goes out to you!

Thank you very much.Yes, through the brain zaps, fogginess, depression, anxiety, tremors, extreme dizziness, good waves, bad waves, tinnitus, etc...i took care of my mom. Then after she passed, i had to help do final arrangements. I look back and wonder how i was able to do it.

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Exie

food sensitivities are supposed to lessen over time, why did it become worse for me? is this natural? I used to be able to eat more foods and eat it often, but a few months ago suddenly I can't eat each food often anymore. for example I used to eat two apples almost everyday and was fine. but now I can only eat one every couple of days. eating it more often makes my mental/cognitive problems worse. its the same with other foods. I thought maybe eating them too often might be too much on my brain. I haven't been eating them often for a couple months now but its still like this. since I can only eat each food (and not all foods) in small amount and can't eat it again for a couple days to a week, I don't have enough to eat everyday, and hunger intensifies my CNS problem. I can't bear it anymore.

 

I used to eat a lot of fruits everyday and meat/eggs too which have antibiotics and pesticides in them,  could the high amount of sugar and chemicals have made my brain more sensitive to foods? I dont know its just a thought. but other people eat meat/dairy and their food sensitivities dont become worse..

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GiaK

mine have become "worse" as well, but in my experience (and I don't assume this is yours) I'm simply learning to tell what is what...

 

I also rotate foods...and it sounds like you're doing something like that...I do not eat anything everyday...rotation allows the body to recover from any potential sensitivity before eating the food again...

 

if you google rotation diets you can learn more there. 

 

have you looked into histamine intolerance? when people feel like they're sensitive to so many foods it's often implicated. 

 

I've written quite a lot on the topic here:  
 

A mini histamine intolerance round-up

http://beyondmeds.com/2013/02/25/a-mini-histamine-intolerance/

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ruby

I'm in a similar boat as yours. Can't eat many foods and if I don't eat enough, the anxiety spikes. There aren't enough foods I can eat to rotate. What happens is that I go on a strict diet, feel better and then eat more variety of foods that end up in a place of distress.

 

Why not try eating organic meats, fruits & veggies that don't have the pesticides, antibiotics, etc. ?

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Exie

could stress have made my brain more sensitive to foods? I've been upset and distressed everyday

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GiaK

stress makes pretty much everything worse...

 

have you tried any stress relieving practices? 

 

yoga, meditation, walking, epsom salt baths...(those are just some ideas)  

 

baby steps help...it takes time to practice doing such things on a regular basis.

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Exie

white rice is the only food I've been able to eat a lot of everyday without it causing problems. refined white foods are unhealthy but without it I didn't have enough to eat so I've been eating a lot of it everyday. I didn't think it made my brain more sensitive to foods because when I ate it, it didn't make my mental problems worse, only the other foods do. but now white rice caused an unpleasant mental hyper sensation. so now I can't eat it and can't eat the other foods often or in bigger amounts so I don't have enough to eat and long hunger makes my mental and neurological problems worse too, so I truly can't bear this anymore.

are we not supposed to eat refined white food? is too much white rice bad for the brain?

 

hasn't food sensitivities become worse for anyone else? why would this happen to me?

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Exie

could the cause be high blood sugar? does that affect the brain negatively? doesn't white rice cause high blood sugar?

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NoMeaning25

Maybe you have an acute sulfite allergy?? Or as GiaK said maybe its histamine. I read of a lady on the other site who had an acute sulfite allergy and rice was the only thing she ate for awhile untill she figured out about her sensitivities. Worth looking into...

 

Stress definately worsens everything.

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Altostrata

There's a good overview here of food sensitivities http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq&dbid=30
 
I recently started reacting to tyramine, something that I've never noticed before. It was keeping me awake.
 

Tyramine
Reactions to tyramine (an amino acid-like molecule) or phenylalanine (another amino acid-like molecule) can result from eating the following foods:

  • Fermented cheeses
  • Fermented
  • Sausage
  • Chocolate
  • Sour Cream
  • Red wine
  • Avocado
  • Beer
  • Raspberries
  • Yeast
  • Picked Herring
Symptoms of tyramine intolerance can include urticaria (hives), angioedema (localized swelling due to fluid retention), migraines, wheezing, and even asthma. In fact, some researchers suggest that as many as 20 percent of migraines are caused by food intolerance or allergy, and tyramine intolerance is one of the most common of these toxic food responses.

Tyramine and Migraines
Tyramines are derivatives of amino acids called tyrosine. After long periods of time, some of the tyrosine amino acids in foods such as aged cheeses or meats will naturally be converted by bacteria into tyramines. This same process can also occur in your intestinal tract if digestion is slow allowing bacteria the time to convert tyrosine into tyramine. For this reason, tyramine-sensitive individuals should take steps to support their digestive system as well as reduce foods containing pre-formed tyramine in their meal plan.
 
Although the reason tyramine causes toxic food responses such as migraines is not clearly understood, research suggests that people suffering from migraines may not adequately neutralize tyramine. While normally neutralized through a detoxification process in the intestine and liver before it is absorbed into the body, tyramine sensitive individuals are believed to have increased amounts of unneutralized tyramine that gets absorbed and circulated to the brain where it may interfere with normal brain functions causing the pain that is experienced as a migraine. Foods that help support the detoxification of tyramine include such sulfur-containing foods as:
  • Onion
  • Brussels Sprouts
  • Garlic
  • Broccoli

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Wildflower0214

I have only been able to eat about 15 whole food items for three months. Adding in a food seems to take about a month!!

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There's a good overview here of food sensitivities http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq&dbid=30

 

I recently started reacting to tyramine, something that I've never noticed before. It was keeping me awake.

 

 

Tyramine

Reactions to tyramine (an amino acid-like molecule) or phenylalanine (another amino acid-like molecule) can result from eating the following foods:

 

  • Fermented cheeses
  • Fermented
  • Sausage
  • Chocolate
  • Sour Cream
  • Red wine
  • Avocado
  • Beer
  • Raspberries
  • Yeast
  • Picked Herring
Symptoms of tyramine intolerance can include urticaria (hives), angioedema (localized swelling due to fluid retention), migraines, wheezing, and even asthma. In fact, some researchers suggest that as many as 20 percent of migraines are caused by food intolerance or allergy, and tyramine intolerance is one of the most common of these toxic food responses.Tyramine and Migraines

Tyramines are derivatives of amino acids called tyrosine. After long periods of time, some of the tyrosine amino acids in foods such as aged cheeses or meats will naturally be converted by bacteria into tyramines. This same process can also occur in your intestinal tract if digestion is slow allowing bacteria the time to convert tyrosine into tyramine. For this reason, tyramine-sensitive individuals should take steps to support their digestive system as well as reduce foods containing pre-formed tyramine in their meal plan.

 

Although the reason tyramine causes toxic food responses such as migraines is not clearly understood, research suggests that people suffering from migraines may not adequately neutralize tyramine. While normally neutralized through a detoxification process in the intestine and liver before it is absorbed into the body, tyramine sensitive individuals are believed to have increased amounts of unneutralized tyramine that gets absorbed and circulated to the brain where it may interfere with normal brain functions causing the pain that is experienced as a migraine. Foods that help support the detoxification of tyramine include such sulfur-containing foods as:

  • Onion
  • Brussels Sprouts
  • Garlic
  • Broccoli

Maybe this is what has happened to me? I dont get an allergic response, but lots of problems in my gastrointestinal system. I hardly can eat any food, have to eliminate any food with additives, I eat almost no veg, no diary products. Recently have started responding to any meat...

I am finding it really difficult to find food I can eat.

Hence, I am low with vitamin and mineral intake, feeling generally more and more weak...

It is like constant experimen, eating and monitoring my response...it has been more prominent since my effexor tappering...

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Cressida

food sensitivities are supposed to lessen over time, why did it become worse for me? is this natural? I used to be able to eat more foods and eat it often, but a few months ago suddenly I can't eat each food often anymore. for example I used to eat two apples almost everyday and was fine. but now I can only eat one every couple of days. eating it more often makes my mental/cognitive problems worse. its the same with other foods. I thought maybe eating them too often might be too much on my brain. I haven't been eating them often for a couple months now but its still like this. since I can only eat each food (and not all foods) in small amount and can't eat it again for a couple days to a week, I don't have enough to eat everyday, and hunger intensifies my CNS problem. I can't bear it anymore.

 

I used to eat a lot of fruits everyday and meat/eggs too which have antibiotics and pesticides in them, could the high amount of sugar and chemicals have made my brain more sensitive to foods? I dont know its just a thought. but other people eat meat/dairy and their food sensitivities dont become worse..

I wasn't aware of food sensitivities until 22 months when I stopped drinking wine and all hell broke loose. Had similar problem when drank smoothies and stopped. Now a svoid everything with sugar as causes massive exacerbations. But. I think there's a danger in cutting too much out as cutting out and reintroducing seems to cause problems. I avoid processed anything. Fruit, sadly because of the sugar in it. Alcohol and coffee. Otherwise I eat meat fish dairy veg rice and pasta . I am becoming fearful of foods because of their "side effects" and this isn't a good thing

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food sensitivities are supposed to lessen over time, why did it become worse for me? is this natural? I used to be able to eat more foods and eat it often, but a few months ago suddenly I can't eat each food often anymore. for example I used to eat two apples almost everyday and was fine. but now I can only eat one every couple of days. eating it more often makes my mental/cognitive problems worse. its the same with other foods. I thought maybe eating them too often might be too much on my brain. I haven't been eating them often for a couple months now but its still like this. since I can only eat each food (and not all foods) in small amount and can't eat it again for a couple days to a week, I don't have enough to eat everyday, and hunger intensifies my CNS problem. I can't bear it anymore.

 

I used to eat a lot of fruits everyday and meat/eggs too which have antibiotics and pesticides in them, could the high amount of sugar and chemicals have made my brain more sensitive to foods? I dont know its just a thought. but other people eat meat/dairy and their food sensitivities dont become worse..

I wasn't aware of food sensitivities until 22 months when I stopped drinking wine and all hell broke loose. Had similar problem when drank smoothies and stopped. Now a svoid everything with sugar as causes massive exacerbations. But. I think there's a danger in cutting too much out as cutting out and reintroducing seems to cause problems. I avoid processed anything. Fruit, sadly because of the sugar in it. Alcohol and coffee. Otherwise I eat meat fish dairy veg rice and pasta . I am becoming fearful of foods because of their "side effects" and this isn't a good thing

About three months into my WD I figured out that food was an issue. So I did an elimination diet, and all hell broke loose. I didnt sleep at ALL for three solid straight days. And I got stuck on the ten items on the first phase of my diet. That was nearly four months ago. I can now eat 15 foods. It takes about a month to work in a food now. I guess it will get better over time. But, abrupt changes do not seem to be a good idea. I wish I would have known.

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Cressida

Couldn't agree more. Abruptly stopping foodstuffs was as bad as ct a drug. And set off a raft of autonomic symptoms I am still suffering from and didn't have for the first 22 months. For some peoe at least food substances are very very serious factors in withdrawal

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PanickedPathfinder

Hello everyone! I hope I'm posting this in the right area. If not, please forgive my new-member-ness ;)

 

I'm curious if anyone who is on or has taken sertraline (Zoloft) can tell me a bit about your experience with citrus fruit. I've really been hesitant to eat anything citrus-related--apples, lemons, oranges--because I've read conflicting anecdotes about interactions. I've also felt "tingling" on my lips after eating oranges, which has never happened before I took sertraline, and have forsworn oranges since. Anybody else have similar experiences?

 

I know, for instance, that you shouldn't take grapefruit because of an intestinal enzyme that has a high potential of overmetabolozing sertraline concentration in the blood. And I'm unsure what other fruits/veggies share this enzyme. If anyone has more concrete info on this, I'd be much obliged.

 

Other side questions: is it safe (keeping in mind that everyone is different) to eat citrus-filled fruits while on setraline? I've head many things--that if you do, you should wait between 4-6 hours for a safe metabolic level to kick in, etc., but have honestly become confused by the potential reactions or exceptions to watch out for. I'm actually a bit worried about my Vitamin-C levels, and have supplemented with some C-packed fruit snacks, but I'm even hesitant with these, especially with any "juice cocktail" combos that might have negative reactive ingredients.

 

Lastly, is taking a Vitamin-C supplement safe with sertraline?

 

Sorry this post is all over the place. I guess my major question is: What are people's experience with citrus specifically surrounding sertraline? I just really want to dig into apples and oranges again, but have scared myself in the processes. Any info (or redirection) would be exceptional.

 

Thanks for your time!

 

PanickedPat 

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Jaywill

Just speaking from my experience as I react to all sorts of things is that they change as my withdrawal continues. I am 30 months off and I used to eat bananas all the time , like two a day. If i eat a banana now I feel terrible and my mouth gets sores in it. I really find sugar the worst right now. I can't eat gluten ,dairy and a ton of foods. I have a serious sensitivity to perfumes which is ruining my life. I find eating a low histamine diet, drinking a tbsp of apple cider vinegar in water twice a day, drinking at least 2 litres of water a day and putting salt on my tongue twice a day chased by water helps. I know how you feel as I really think I have PTSD because I am so concerned about everything that enters my mouth that I have lost 20 pounds. Best of luck and try some of those methods they can't hurt as they lower histamines 

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Wildflower0214

I guess a lot of this has to do with gut health. But I'm too ill to even make an attempt to heal that right now!! This is so frustrating!!!

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Cressida

Bought puffed wheat cereal yesterday because it was supposed to be the lowest in sugar. Only ingredient wheat that is put carb. Stupid me forgot my body would convert that straight to glucose. Had a bowl for supper. So here I am 630am burning palpitating and terrified. Seems to affect me even worse if I eat the problem just before bed. I had been doing so much better since I d avoided triggers

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Cressida

Bought puffed wheat cereal yesterday because it was supposed to be the lowest in sugar. Only ingredient wheat that is put carb. Stupid me forgot my body would convert that straight to glucose. Had a bowl for supper. So here I am 630am burning palpitating and terrified. Seems to affect me even worse if I eat the problem just before bed. I had been doing so much better since I d avoided triggers

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MissTrish

I'm glad to find this topic.  The foods that I have become super sensitive to are mainly spices and anything caffeinated.  I can't tolerate cinnamon, ginger, cumin, pepper, onions, etc.  And of course chocolate or anything caffeinated at all.  I feel like my world has become so narrow because I love to eat healthy foods, including salads with fresh onions and herbs and tomatos (tomatos are iffy), etc.  All of these foods and spices rev up my nervous system; eating something with cinnamon is like drinking a cup of coffee for me.

Very frustrating.

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Cressida

Bought puffed wheat cereal yesterday because it was supposed to be the lowest in sugar. Only ingredient wheat that is put carb. Stupid me forgot my body would convert that straight to glucose. Had a bowl for supper. So here I am 630am burning palpitating and terrified. Seems to affect me even worse if I eat the problem just before bed. I had been doing so much better since I d avoided triggers

Just to update. Resolved pretty quickly. Went out for the day with a friend. Exposure to a trigger food initially wiped me out with severe symptoms for months. Then weeks. Then about 10days . So ( touch wood) I seem to be recovering from these upsets more quickly

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Wildflower0214

That's really good news!!!

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I'm glad to find this topic. The foods that I have become super sensitive to are mainly spices and anything caffeinated. I can't tolerate cinnamon, ginger, cumin, pepper, onions, etc. And of course chocolate or anything caffeinated at all. I feel like my world has become so narrow because I love to eat healthy foods, including salads with fresh onions and herbs and tomatos (tomatos are iffy), etc. All of these foods and spices rev up my nervous system; eating something with cinnamon is like drinking a cup of coffee for me.

Very frustrating.

Ya, I feel ya about the spices. I tried a tablespoon of mustard and was in misery for a few days. :(

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withdrawlsucks

Ooooo yes this all sound familiar to me too.. if this withdrawal wernt hard hard enough with everything else... Milk , wheat, coffee , tea , sugar,sweetners, herbs , spices , the list is never ending... It's doing my head in !!! I would love a Chinese meal and not have to pay for it for days :-( my heart goes out to you all

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Zvezda

I was at my friend's birthday party today and of course I was stupid enough to stuff myself with cake and cookies... It's just so hard to avoid sugar when indulgence is such an integral part of socialization. How do you guys deal with situations like that? Do you just politely refuse and explain why you can't tolerate certain foods?

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Cressida

If you try to explain people will just think you are a weirdo and a fusspot. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happened to me. I just say am on a diet and can't break it and don't go into detail . People generally find diets boring so tend not to enquire further

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Cressida

If you try to explain people will just think you are a weirdo and a fusspot. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't happened to me. I just say am on a diet and can't break it and don't go into detail . People generally find diets boring so tend not to enquire further

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Wildflower0214

My food sensitivity is so bad that If I made a bad choice and ate a whole meal...let's say at McDonald's...the consequences would be horrific. Recently, just trying a couple spoonfuls of something made me crazy. I had a run in with turkey that landed me near psychotic. I'm guessing it's the tryptophan in it. It scared me to death.

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Cressida

My food sensitivity is so bad that If I made a bad choice and ate a whole meal...let's say at McDonald's...the consequences would be horrific. Recently, just trying a couple spoonfuls of something made me crazy. I had a run in with turkey that landed me near psychotic. I'm guessing it's the tryptophan in it. It scared me to death.

Sugar is the biggy for me. I agree the consequences are horrific

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Cressida

My food sensitivity is so bad that If I made a bad choice and ate a whole meal...let's say at McDonald's...the consequences would be horrific. Recently, just trying a couple spoonfuls of something made me crazy. I had a run in with turkey that landed me near psychotic. I'm guessing it's the tryptophan in it. It scared me to death.

Sugar is the biggy for me. I agree the consequences are horrific

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Wildflower0214

I'm glad I'm not alone!!! I thought for months no one had the severity of food problems that I did.

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Ooooo yes this all sound familiar to me too.. if this withdrawal wernt hard hard enough with everything else... Milk , wheat, coffee , tea , sugar,sweetners, herbs , spices , the list is never ending... It's doing my head in !!! I would love a Chinese meal and not have to pay for it for days :-( my heart goes out to you all

Yes! It sucks!!!! As your screen name implies! Big big time....SUCKS!

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MissTrish

I don't seem to have problems w/wheat, milk or sugar that I can tell.  I gave up wheat for a while and seemed moodier and more anxious/depressed.  What kind of symptoms do those give you?

It's anything stimulating that I can't tolerate - I get so very anxious and hyper and I can't sleep.

I miss Mexican food and cups of real (non-herbal) tea and chocolate.

But it could be so much worse!

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Hello everyone! I hope I'm posting this in the right area. If not, please forgive my new-member-ness ;)

 

I'm curious if anyone who is on or has taken sertraline (Zoloft) can tell me a bit about your experience with citrus fruit. I've really been hesitant to eat anything citrus-related--apples, lemons, oranges--because I've read conflicting anecdotes about interactions. I've also felt "tingling" on my lips after eating oranges, which has never happened before I took sertraline, and have forsworn oranges since. Anybody else have similar experiences?

 

I know, for instance, that you shouldn't take grapefruit because of an intestinal enzyme that has a high potential of overmetabolozing sertraline concentration in the blood. And I'm unsure what other fruits/veggies share this enzyme. If anyone has more concrete info on this, I'd be much obliged.

 

Other side questions: is it safe (keeping in mind that everyone is different) to eat citrus-filled fruits while on setraline? I've head many things--that if you do, you should wait between 4-6 hours for a safe metabolic level to kick in, etc., but have honestly become confused by the potential reactions or exceptions to watch out for. I'm actually a bit worried about my Vitamin-C levels, and have supplemented with some C-packed fruit snacks, but I'm even hesitant with these, especially with any "juice cocktail" combos that might have negative reactive ingredients.

 

Lastly, is taking a Vitamin-C supplement safe with sertraline?

 

Sorry this post is all over the place. I guess my major question is: What are people's experience with citrus specifically surrounding sertraline? I just really want to dig into apples and oranges again, but have scared myself in the processes. Any info (or redirection) would be exceptional.

 

Thanks for your time!

 

PanickedPat 

 

I get horrible zaps on my lips and tongue after eating kiwi, but I am in protracted withdrawal from tricyclics, which is a different med than you are asking about.  I will simply die if I develop a citrus fruit/vitamin C intolerance.

 

Some people do well with supplements, others react negatively.  I read an interaction guide that I bought from Point of Return that the following foods are no-nos while ON sertraline, but I don't know about whether they are a problem in withdrawal.  Anyway, here's what I found:

 

Bananas

Cranberry juice

Grapefruit

Star fruit

Tangerines

Bitter orange

 

If you have more questions, you can contact Point of Return yourself.  There are mixed reviews about them here on this site, but I am glad that I bought their materials and have them on hand for reference, even though I have been too scared to try actually taking the supplements.

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