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Dani

 

Hello everyone! I hope I'm posting this in the right area. If not, please forgive my new-member-ness ;)

 

I'm curious if anyone who is on or has taken sertraline (Zoloft) can tell me a bit about your experience with citrus fruit. I've really been hesitant to eat anything citrus-related--apples, lemons, oranges--because I've read conflicting anecdotes about interactions. I've also felt "tingling" on my lips after eating oranges, which has never happened before I took sertraline, and have forsworn oranges since. Anybody else have similar experiences?

 

I know, for instance, that you shouldn't take grapefruit because of an intestinal enzyme that has a high potential of overmetabolozing sertraline concentration in the blood. And I'm unsure what other fruits/veggies share this enzyme. If anyone has more concrete info on this, I'd be much obliged.

 

Other side questions: is it safe (keeping in mind that everyone is different) to eat citrus-filled fruits while on setraline? I've head many things--that if you do, you should wait between 4-6 hours for a safe metabolic level to kick in, etc., but have honestly become confused by the potential reactions or exceptions to watch out for. I'm actually a bit worried about my Vitamin-C levels, and have supplemented with some C-packed fruit snacks, but I'm even hesitant with these, especially with any "juice cocktail" combos that might have negative reactive ingredients.

 

Lastly, is taking a Vitamin-C supplement safe with sertraline?

 

Sorry this post is all over the place. I guess my major question is: What are people's experience with citrus specifically surrounding sertraline? I just really want to dig into apples and oranges again, but have scared myself in the processes. Any info (or redirection) would be exceptional.

 

Thanks for your time!

 

PanickedPat 

 

I get horrible zaps on my lips and tongue after eating kiwi, but I am in protracted withdrawal from tricyclics, which is a different med than you are asking about.  I will simply die if I develop a citrus fruit/vitamin C intolerance.

 

Some people do well with supplements, others react negatively.  I read an interaction guide that I bought from Point of Return that the following foods are no-nos while ON sertraline, but I don't know about whether they are a problem in withdrawal.  Anyway, here's what I found:

 

Bananas

Cranberry juice

Grapefruit

Star fruit

Tangerines

Bitter orange

 

If you have more questions, you can contact Point of Return yourself.  There are mixed reviews about them here on this site, but I am glad that I bought their materials and have them on hand for reference, even though I have been too scared to try actually taking the supplements.

 

Hi,

 

I had some problems with anything Vitamin C/citric acid related...but it has improved somewhat. I can drink orange juice again, but lemons are kinda iffy. I still have some reaction to it on my cheek and lips, but I like to try and drink warm lemon water in the mornings so help with digestion. I do not drink grapefruit juice at all...especially since I did research and found that grapefruit juice and lots of medicines have a bad reaction (something my doctor never told me)

 

Recently, I've been having digestive issues...which may or may not be a withdrawal symptom. I wouldn't really be surprised if it was withdrawal related.

 

If I drink cranberry juice or any other fruit juices, I make sure to dilute with water. I can tolerate it if it's mixed with water.

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WiggleIt

Can you please keep posting to this thread and let me know what's happening with your food sensitivities? This topic is hugely important to me.

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I cannot drink any fruit juices, or even eat fruits, but I am ok with anything with lemon...also anything acidic, such as sourkraut...

I cannot eat anything that is not orgnically grown, such as letuce, cucumber, etc.

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Dani

Can you please keep posting to this thread and let me know what's happening with your food sensitivities? This topic is hugely important to me.

 

I will try my best but I'm going through major depression since I lost my mother and its been very hard dealing with grief and withdrawal at the same time :(

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WiggleIt

Oh, Dani, my condolences.  I don't know what to say.  I'm heartbroken about your loss.  

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Mort81

Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

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Dani

Oh, Dani, my condolences.  I don't know what to say.  I'm heartbroken about your loss.  

 

Thank you. It's been rough and withdrawal doesn't help the situation at all

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Dani

Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

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Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

 

 

I never had any problems beforehand, either.  In fact, I was always SO proud of my health and of being able to say I had no food, seasonal, or medication allergies.  There was even a false promise that my today gave me for the first couple of months of withdrawal where I seemed to be okay with foods, but then I started getting zaps and problems with kiwi, chocolate, and now I think pears and apples and pepper have made the list.

 

I just can't believe I went from being so healthy and strong for 31 years, to being on meds for four years, and now I use a walker, have non-epileptic seizures, and can't even eat to help my body heal. 

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Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

 

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

I had similar problem, not being able to eat certain food...

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Dani

 

 

Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

 

 

I never had any problems beforehand, either.  In fact, I was always SO proud of my health and of being able to say I had no food, seasonal, or medication allergies.  There was even a false promise that my today gave me for the first couple of months of withdrawal where I seemed to be okay with foods, but then I started getting zaps and problems with kiwi, chocolate, and now I think pears and apples and pepper have made the list.

 

I just can't believe I went from being so healthy and strong for 31 years, to being on meds for four years, and now I use a walker, have non-epileptic seizures, and can't even eat to help my body heal. 

 

 

I also was very proud of not having any major health issues before antidepressants. I never had any food allergies, no seasonal allergies, no food sensitivities...nothing. Since withdrawal, I've had the strangest things happen. Some have resolved itself, some are still there ( but not with the same intensity as before) some are new. It's just crazy. I remember I couldn't sleep on my left side for nearly a year because when I did, the entire left side of my body would be completely without feeling when I'd wake up. I guess that has to do with all of the strange headache/sensations that happen occasionally on the right side of my head. Who knows. When I go to the doctor, things are usually normal and they never believe anything about withdrawal. The only person who believed in my withdrawals was my mother. Nobody else. And now that she has passed away, its been really difficult to deal with her loss, and withdrawal....plus the fact that nobody believes I have withdrawal to begin with. :(

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WiggleIt

 

 

 

Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

 

 

I never had any problems beforehand, either.  In fact, I was always SO proud of my health and of being able to say I had no food, seasonal, or medication allergies.  There was even a false promise that my today gave me for the first couple of months of withdrawal where I seemed to be okay with foods, but then I started getting zaps and problems with kiwi, chocolate, and now I think pears and apples and pepper have made the list.

 

I just can't believe I went from being so healthy and strong for 31 years, to being on meds for four years, and now I use a walker, have non-epileptic seizures, and can't even eat to help my body heal. 

 

 

I also was very proud of not having any major health issues before antidepressants. I never had any food allergies, no seasonal allergies, no food sensitivities...nothing. Since withdrawal, I've had the strangest things happen. Some have resolved itself, some are still there ( but not with the same intensity as before) some are new. It's just crazy. I remember I couldn't sleep on my left side for nearly a year because when I did, the entire left side of my body would be completely without feeling when I'd wake up. I guess that has to do with all of the strange headache/sensations that happen occasionally on the right side of my head. Who knows. When I go to the doctor, things are usually normal and they never believe anything about withdrawal. The only person who believed in my withdrawals was my mother. Nobody else. And now that she has passed away, its been really difficult to deal with her loss, and withdrawal....plus the fact that nobody believes I have withdrawal to begin with. :(

 

 

Have you been in withdrawal since 2011?  And still with all the physical symptoms listed in your signature?

 

I'm sure your mother is still watching over you...

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MissTrish

Hello Wiggleit,

Grief is a rough thing for anyone, especially someone in withdrawal.  Do you have anyone outside of the medical profession you can turn to for support?  Grief counselors do help people, as do therapists who specialize in working with people with chronic illnesses.  I know a good one here in my area; if you were in north Texas I'd give you her name.  

 

Just know, you're not alone when you're walking through this.  It may feel like it but you are not.  I'm sending you a huge cyber hug.

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Mort81

Its weird why some of us have to go through so much. I have to believe it all happens for a reason. I think when we get passed these obstacles we will live life better than ever imagined

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Mort81

Does anyone else have a feeling like your stomach is really bruised? It always feels like I was punched in the gut . I'm so tender and weak in my midsection right now.

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Mort81

When I describe this feeling to my doctors they are absolutely clueless. Lyrica is there answer. I am going to see one of my doctors today to ask for a sick note so I can properly take time off. I don't even qualify for sick pay and I'm sure my doctor will give me a hard time for wanting to take time off. Because in her mind withdrawal isn't real. What a joke. Sick of our health care.

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Skyler

Hi Mort.. I understand your frustration.  Doctors are just not knowledgeable in most cases.  I've been tapering off Lyrica for 2 years now and the taper will probably go on for another year.  Lyrica has some miserable side effects that almost everyone experiences.. short term memory issues, constipation, and weight gain and bloating.  Further, I've never heard of it being prescribed for GI Issues and cannot but wonder why your doctor thinks this would help.  I realize you are not planning to take the medication, but thought I'd give you some input because I've been trying to get off for so long.

 

Take a look at the reasons Lyrica is prescribed, and the types of pain that could be helped... I don't see what you experience is listed there.  My 'gut' reaction here is your doc is throwing a medication at you because he does not know what else to do.

 

Also, benzodiazepines cause GI issues.. and you are taking Klonopin once every 3 days which is not giving you a stable blood level.

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Dani

 

 

 

 

Hey Dani,

My stomach was affected the most by withdrawal. So many food sensitivities resulted including gluten, dairy, eggs, nut, refined sugar. For the first few months of withdrawal I was barely eating anything solid. Baby food and chicken broth that's pretty much it. After a few months I could eat fish and rice and more solids. I'm in month 6 and slowly my diet is expanding. Scary what these medications can do

 

It's very scary. I am now able to eat potatoes after not being able to eat them for 2 years. Its crazy how I now have seasonal allergies AND food sensitivites since Zoloft. Never had any of this beforehand

 

 

I never had any problems beforehand, either.  In fact, I was always SO proud of my health and of being able to say I had no food, seasonal, or medication allergies.  There was even a false promise that my today gave me for the first couple of months of withdrawal where I seemed to be okay with foods, but then I started getting zaps and problems with kiwi, chocolate, and now I think pears and apples and pepper have made the list.

 

I just can't believe I went from being so healthy and strong for 31 years, to being on meds for four years, and now I use a walker, have non-epileptic seizures, and can't even eat to help my body heal. 

 

 

I also was very proud of not having any major health issues before antidepressants. I never had any food allergies, no seasonal allergies, no food sensitivities...nothing. Since withdrawal, I've had the strangest things happen. Some have resolved itself, some are still there ( but not with the same intensity as before) some are new. It's just crazy. I remember I couldn't sleep on my left side for nearly a year because when I did, the entire left side of my body would be completely without feeling when I'd wake up. I guess that has to do with all of the strange headache/sensations that happen occasionally on the right side of my head. Who knows. When I go to the doctor, things are usually normal and they never believe anything about withdrawal. The only person who believed in my withdrawals was my mother. Nobody else. And now that she has passed away, its been really difficult to deal with her loss, and withdrawal....plus the fact that nobody believes I have withdrawal to begin with. :(

 

 

Have you been in withdrawal since 2011?  And still with all the physical symptoms listed in your signature?

 

I'm sure your mother is still watching over you...

 

 

 

Not all the physical symptoms are still there. Some have come and gone like brains zaps etc. But some still come but aren't as intense as it was in 2011..like panic and anxiety. I also still develop new ones to this day..digestion issues

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Dani

Its weird why some of us have to go through so much. I have to believe it all happens for a reason. I think when we get passed these obstacles we will live life better than ever imagined

 

I believe that too...life will be better than ever imagined.

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I've experienced digestive issues during and after antidepressant (Lexapro) withdrawal.  I had known for about ten years that I'm gluten intolerant and that dairy might aggravate my hay fever, but thanks to the psychiatric drugs I was given over a fifteen month period, I can no longer tolerate peanuts and I just recently discovered that I'm intolerant of dairy altogether.  Quitting the dairy has eliminated the fatigue, nausea, and low-grade depression that I had been writing off as the aftermath of antidepressant withdrawal and having to cope with a retirement that wasn't very well planned (which I also think is at least partially due to being in an antidepressant fog when I handed in my retirement paperwork).  I've also taken note that very much sugar revs me up worse than caffeine (also still not tolerated very well after three years of being antidepressant-free) and that, now that I've quit dairy, I'm much more responsive to other drugs.  I take an occasional benzo for sleep, and now they work consistently.  I was beginning to wonder if the generic Ativan I get had some dummy bullets in the jar as the pills weren't doing a thing for me about 50% of the time.

 

I'm paying a lot more attention to how foods and supplements are affecting me now.

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Mort81

Thanks Skyler,

 

After reading that lyrica is the last thing I will try. I'm gonna try to continue to taper off the benzo as you said they can cause GI issues.

 

On a side note just came back from doctor. It was like pulling teeth to get a note for work. She carved me up bad, again reiterating withdrawal doesn't cause major stomach issues. She said I was doing so well while on lexapro and to go back on the med. I had to remind her why I went off of them in the first place. Anyway was a fun day getting beaten up by your doctor after your already down. But I know I am not alone as many of you have probably heard the same thing from absent minded physicians.

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Skyler

After reading that lyrica is the last thing I will try. I'm gonna try to continue to taper off the benzo as you said they can cause GI issues.

 

Right.. but you should be taking the same dose every day.  Benzos are notorious for causing stomach issues... not sure yours fits, but it's a consideration.  And tapering any psychotropic by skipping days is bad, especially the benzos.  You might want to check out the benzo sub forum here to discuss this.  You need to figure out what dose of K you should taper off...something less than .25 mgs, but I'm not sure doing something like dividing it by .25 mgs by 3 and then taking that amount every day would be enough. 

 

Glad my message rang clear.. the side effect profile for Lyrica is not pretty.

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Jemima

 

After reading that lyrica is the last thing I will try. I'm gonna try to continue to taper off the benzo as you said they can cause GI issues.

 

Right.. but you should be taking the same dose every day.  Benzos are notorious for causing stomach issues... not sure yours fits, but it's a consideration.  And tapering any psychotropic by skipping days is bad, especially the benzos.  You might want to check out the benzo sub forum here to discuss this.  You need to figure out what dose of K you should taper off...something less than .25 mgs, but I'm not sure doing something like dividing it by .25 mgs by 3 and then taking that amount every day would be enough. 

 

Glad my message rang clear.. the side effect profile for Lyrica is not pretty.

 

 

Love your signature quote.

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Mort81

Interesting, ya thats a consideration I'm gonna need to check out . thanks again ill look into it.

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Skyler

 

 

After reading that lyrica is the last thing I will try. I'm gonna try to continue to taper off the benzo as you said they can cause GI issues.

 

Right.. but you should be taking the same dose every day.  Benzos are notorious for causing stomach issues... not sure yours fits, but it's a consideration.  And tapering any psychotropic by skipping days is bad, especially the benzos.  You might want to check out the benzo sub forum here to discuss this.  You need to figure out what dose of K you should taper off...something less than .25 mgs, but I'm not sure doing something like dividing it by .25 mgs by 3 and then taking that amount every day would be enough. 

 

Glad my message rang clear.. the side effect profile for Lyrica is not pretty.

 

 

Love your signature quote.

 

 

Yes.. I found it!  Here it is... yes, I've wondered if anyone ever read it... I think it pretty much nails it when it comes to our experience with medical establishment.

 

BTW... very glad to hear you are doing well these days.  Not all are great, but more than not it seems.

 

PS.. I sent you a PM because I could not remember where this post was.. but the lost was found.. so I deleted.  Just in case you were wondering what happened.

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WiggleIt

Does anyone else have a feeling like your stomach is really bruised? It always feels like I was punched in the gut . I'm so tender and weak in my midsection right now.

 

I don't know about this, but when I eat, it feels lie my esophagus and stomach don't want the food inside of me, like they think it's a foreign object when it hits my stomach.

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Does anyone else have a feeling like your stomach is really bruised? It always feels like I was punched in the gut . I'm so tender and weak in my midsection right now.

 

 

I don't know about this, but when I eat, it feels lie my esophagus and stomach don't want the food inside of me, like they think it's a foreign object when it hits my stomach.

This is how I felt after effexor, to the extent that I was vomitting...then slowly introduced food I was able to eat...firstly it was boiled potatoes and carrot, then added boiled chicken breast...i ate like this for more than half a year, every day the same...and no spices....

I am better with food now...

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Mort81

Hello my food sensitivities have been improving so much lately. I'm In month 7 of WD. This month I've been able to eat things I couldn't during my first 6 months of WD. Things like eggs, dairy, and even gluten. I don't plan on eating much dairy or gluten but I'm glad that it doesn't big me

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Dani

Hello my food sensitivities have been improving so much lately. I'm In month 7 of WD. This month I've been able to eat things I couldn't during my first 6 months of WD. Things like eggs, dairy, and even gluten. I don't plan on eating much dairy or gluten but I'm glad that it doesn't big me

I'm happy you're having signs of improvement!

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Mort81

Thanks Danni , today has been a rough one though , not sure what I ate to make myself feel so sore in my gut .. One thing I haven't figured out yet is how much worse does certain foods actually make my stomach or is it just part of my Withdrawal waves and windows. 

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Hangingon

So what began as nausea, morphed into strange tastes, to metallic taste in mouth, to soapy taste in mouth, to...

Fear of eating. Fear it will make my tongue tingle, fear I will have a reaction, fear it will taste strange...

I've lost so much weight and the foods I can eat are getting fewer... Help?

Is this just a neuro fear?

Heard all the don't eat this, don't eat that, subconsciously, I guess I took it to an extreme :(

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Farout

This became one of my obsessive themes in a recent wave but for me it was more a fear of developing a food phobia. Same starting point - weird taste/sensations caused by medication making me fearful of a repeat. Also, my appetite was zero anyway so I obsessed about that; was I avoidingr food, was I getting sicker?

 

Try to be gentle with yourself. Try starting off with simple foods. I had to tell myself over and over that the worst that could happen is a metallic taste, weird sensation or a bit more anxiety. It was horrible but you get through it.

 

Have you read up on OCD obsessive thoughts at all. These are a big feature of my withdrawal and I believe they are common. I have found that understanding them and how they hook you in is key to alleviating them.

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WiggleIt

Maybe stick with bland things for a while.

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I have an obssessive fear about anything I eat ( even plain fresh fruits ) that it can act on the seretonin receptors and cancel all the healing my brain did all the time I was drug free and start from scratch :( or cause an adverse reaction . It's just crazy how my mind keeps racing about this theme 24 h 

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LoveandLight

I'm scared to prepare food..so strange..I've had this in withdrawal before..it's like everything is so ridiculously difficult.

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Petunia

I've seen this happening to many people in withdrawal and have noticed it in myself.

 

Sometimes, in withdrawal, people do develop genuine sensitivities. But sometimes symptoms will coincide with eating or occur shortly after, but there not actually be a causation factor, it was merely a coincidence or a reaction to eating in general.  But in an attempt to control or minimize symptoms, we will attribute the symptom to having eaten a particular food and then remove that item from the diet.

 

Over time, as symptoms continue, more and more foods might be unnecessarily removed from the diet, leaving just a few foods, which may not provide enough calories or nutrition. In the anxious, highly aroused state that withdrawal often causes, its very easy to get into this cycle and become obsessed with diet restrictions, believing its certain foods causing symptoms when in reality the symptoms are going to come and go anyway.

 

It seems to be part of human nature to look for patterns, to find causes and effects, so we can better predict outcomes and have more control over our lives.  But if the patterns we see are imagined, and the result is that we are starving our body of the nutrition it needs, then this might slow the recovery process.

 

If your nervous system is sensitized by withdrawal, we recommend removing or reducing these things: alcohol, highly processed foods, sugar, rich or highly spiced foods, caffeine, foods with artificial colors and flavors.

 

But beyond this, please test yourself several times with healthy foods before you decide to remove them from your diet, not everyone becomes lactose, gluten and histamine intolerant in withdrawal. Severely restricting our diet when it may not be needed can cause added emotional and physical stress.

 

I'm scared to prepare food..so strange..

 

I have this too L&L, but its getting better, I'm finding it slightly easier now than it was at first. For me the food prep fear is directly related to how intense my symptoms are in general. When I'm feeling a little better, its easier and I can sort of enjoy it... almost.

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