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This is week three on a 25% reduction of trazodone. I'm still handling the migraines with Excedrin Migraine on work days. Now I have a new symptom coming on, and I don't know if it's a drug side effect, a WD effect, an underlying illness, or environmental; as I've had this symptom in the past, even before starting any drugs.  I'm just feeling down in the dumps with no hope of my life ever getting better, no hope for my physical and emotional recovery, very little hope of ever getting of trazodone, lonely, discouraged, and fighting tears.  Of course a shrink would automatically call it clinical depression, but I'd love to get to the root cause to get rid of it if at all possible.  Still broken hearted over losing my fiance, still down from being so very physically sick for 17 years, and still down because I can't be the mom I want to be, BUT if I knew that a drug were causing this I could taper it, and if I knew it were a trazodone WD symptom I could expect it to get better with time. It's just all so complex.  Of course I like looking at the big picture and considering all possibilties before jumping to conclusions, but this hurts in the meantime.  Any support or insight would be welcome.  Thank you.  Have a blessed Christmas.

HI Ellen042.

 

I haven't thoroughly read your thread so please forgive me if I am missing something. Could you be experience these reaction due to your dosage reduction being too big since 25% is a huge amount?

 

I don't know, it sounds like you are dealing with alot of cr-p that is compounded by this reduction.  Of course, that is just my opinion and nothing more.

 

I do hope you feel better soon.

 

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Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010
Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006
Finished taper on June 10, 2010

Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016

Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week

April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia

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Yes, it is possible, and so are the other things I mentioned.  I cant go back up in the trazodone dosage for reasons already discussed.  Thank you though.  It would be nice if it were merely a WD symptom, as that would ease with time.  Appreciate your feedback.

insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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Ellen,

A slightly off-topic question... what antimalarial do you take?

Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc).

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Weepiness can be a withdrawal symptom.

 

I also think you should give yourself the opportunity to feel normal sorrow about your breakup and normal worry about your medical condition without giving it a psychiatric label.

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Hi. It's been a month on 75mg trazodone rather than 100mg trazodone, and the migraine hasn't let up one bit. Per my history, I can't go up to nearly 100mg trazodone again. Anyone else have experience with migraines while coming off AD's? If so, how long did it take for the migraine to go away? I realize trazodone is a migraine preventative, so migraines during withdrawal should be expected, but so are a number of other AD's.

 

My next question is general and speculative. Yes, I have underlying physical illnesses, namely a chiari malformation, dysautonomia, and Lyme disease, but does anyone think I'd do better physically by being off ALL meds? If our bodies build up a tolerance to psychoactive drugs, surely the do somewhat with non-psychoactive drugs as well. I'm just so sick and tired of being sick and tired. I've been terribly ill for 17 years now, and my psyc symptoms are nothing compared to my physical symptoms. I realize this isn't the focus of this website, but there IS no website that I've found which addresses both mental and physical illness in the same person. I realize no one here (that I know of) is a physician either, but I'd love any hope anyone could give me in general. It feels like my very life is dependent on my medicines, and that's not a fun way to feel. My doctors just keep telling me I'd be much worse off without my medicine, but maybe they're wrong, just as psychiatrists can be wrong sometimes too. Thank you for listening and for any feedback. Blessings, Ellen

insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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And thank you Alto for your last sentence. That was kind and empathetic. Sorry that I just now saw it. I do tend to be hard on myself, but in my own experience, getting to a diagnosis has brought much relief, especially the Lyme and dysautonomia diagnoses. I see your point though. Thank you.

insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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Ellen, I don't know. I think I might more want a second opinion to make sure I was doing (or eliminating) everything possible. I read of a doctor in Columbia, MO, Dr. Crist. My brother In law is being treated in Ft. Collins, CO at trilifehealth.com...they are integrative docs and minimize meds. (I flew to CA once to see a fibro specialist--I might be a little too free in my search for answers). Dr. Furman says he's never met a headache he couldn't heal nutritionally (although he's probably never had a patient with a chiari malformation). I am just throwing ideas out there.

 

I have been reading a bit on Lyme because my mom thinks I should be checked for it. But it seems like the diagnosis is so controversial if you don't know when you might have contracted the disease. I really don't need another controversial diagnosis :). Do you have any thoughts on that?

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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Meimei, you don't need to know when you contracted Lyme for it to be diagnosed accurately.  Igenex in CA is the most respected and reputable lab in the country for diagnosing Lyme with both high sensitivity and high specificity. 

 

You just have your doctor mail your blood to the lab for testing.  Costs about $500.  Accepts almost no insurance.  They do a Western Blot to detect spirochetes of Lyme and coinfections in your blood.  Some spirochetes cross the blood brain barrier, so they test for neuro-Lyme as well.  I've not found anyone to argue with an Igenex result.  You're right: the other labs are controversial.  That's why doctors recommend Igenex and why patients are willing to fork out the $500.  I wouldn't waste my money elsewhere, as doctors would be arguing about the accuracy and sensitivity of the test results.  Go for the gold standard.  You (and she) will be glad you did. 

 

And if your results should come back positive, all you need is one Lyme literate MD to treat you.  The treatment works, so don't worry about any controversy.  Also if your results turn out positive for coinfections too, make sure you're treated for them as well.  They're just as viscious as Lyme itself. 

 

So that I don't get knocked for going off topic, how about PMing me- or you can meet up with me on Lymenet.org.  I'm Ellen there too.  In fact, take a look around the website even if you're not looking for me.  You'll find tons of helpful info there, including whether or not you should be tested for Lyme. 

insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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Thank you! I hope someone has insight that clear on your question!

1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms.

Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12

Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13

Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15

11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble)

9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol

7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol

56 years old

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Please- can anyone offer input?  I've been suffering for 17 years and have seen dozens of doctors with no recovery.  I realize you can only help as a friend, not a professional, but I still need your help and support.

insomnia, anxiety, depression- since childhood

lyme disease, dysautonomia, chiari malformation- dx 4/1997

nortriptyline- 75mg since childhood

clonazepam- 3mg since 4/1997

trazodone-100mg since 4/2013, now tapering

rotating antibiotics and antimalarials for lyme disease

midodrine- 10mg for dysautonomia

repeated skull surgeries for chiari malformation

 

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Not sure what your question is. If it's about being off all drugs -- the more drugs you're on, the greater the risk of drug-drug interactions, many of which are undocumented. Even if you don't feel adverse effects, it's better for your overall health to take as few drugs as possible. They're hard on our bodies in many ways.

 

There are sites that are specifically about Lyme disease, if that's what you want to discuss. Only a few people here are familiar with it.

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

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Ellen how are you...flower

C/T Celexa and Trazadone on Jan.29th 2014
Prescribed 1mg of Klonopin every 6 hours on Jan.29th
Began tapering Klonopin April 18th..stretching time between doses...at first one hour for 2 weeks then a half hour for app.10 days then another half hour 10days later.
Presently at .25 three times a day..6 2 and 10pm. Trying to stabilize.
Also still taking gabapentin 300mgs 2xs a day..

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@Ellen042 , how are you doing?

This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein

All postings © copyrighted.

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