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manymoretodays

Prayers and universal good intentions for luv2knit and mrj.  Hang in and on.......hopefully you both will find some peace in your situations real soon.

 

And thank you luv2knit.  I know you were there for me once.....not so long ago........when I really, truly needed it.

 

Love, peace, comfort, kindness.

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luv2knit

Thanks wareagle82 and manymoretodays. Lovely song, Morgane. Prayers for you too, mrj.

 

We will all get there!!

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Morgane

I will pray for you and God bless your soul but please know that you have the inner strength.

 

I also had anxiety, panic attacks… Don’t let these emotions overpower you or rule your life. Listen to the soft sane voice that is still within you and develop mental strength. If it works for you, see them as little children and what would you tell them in order for them to calm down and regain confidence. I know it is easier said than done but step by step, little by little I had to learn from them as well.

 

The first time I was hospitalised, I didn’t realize I was in a psychiatric ward. All of a sudden I saw the sign ‘Psychiatry’ and I had such a panic attack that I had to withdraw myself in my room in order to be able to cope. I sat on the bed suffering from all kinds of anxious emotions and images that flashed through my mind that I had unconsciously absorbed from watching documentaries on psychiatric hospitals. I could finally pull myself together thinking: ‘I am not afraid, I am not afraid.’ I left my room and my mind kind of relaxed.

 

When I was hospitalised another time, I kind of became friends with another patient but when she told me she heard negative inner voices I suffered from another panic attack and wanted to run away from her. I was thinking: ‘Oh no, I don’t want to hear these inner voices’ but then there was this inner thought: ‘Our friendship is more important’, so I pulled myself together, stayed with her and the panic attack stopped.

 

I’ve also learned that it is very important not to feed these emotions by watching the news, watching television, listen to the radio, playing games all day to space out, reading the newspaper, searching the internet out of fear… When we go through these kinds of emotions we are very vulnerable and they devour a lot of energy so we should always do something that is uplifting in spirit and gives us energy, how little it may seem at first. 

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MNgal1960

Please pray for my son (young adult with cognitive impairments) who is in danger and I cannot help him. Please pray that I can calm my mind from these terrifying thoughts.

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wareagle82

MN gal,

 

Praying right now for you to have peace and for your son to be safe in Jesus' arms. 

 

Also prayer for MrJ as well. 

 

Blessings to all.

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MNgal1960

Thank you, ware. He has turned from Jesus and is in danger from someone. I'm so afraid. I can't share the details, they are too disturbing. He is so naive. And he will no longer listen to me because he is busy trying to prove he is a man now. I am crushed. I cannot find God any more.

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wareagle82

God hasn't moved--the panic and worry have blurred your view of Him.  I know it is a frightening time, as I have two boys of my own.  God is still there, even in this time of panic and fear in your life. Have faith it will all work out for good:

 

1.  FAITH SHRINKS MY PROBLEMS-  Luke 1:37

 

2.  FAITH OPENS THE DOOR FOR MIRACLES-  Mark 11:22-24

 

3.  FAITH MOVES GOD TO ACT ON MY BEHALF-  Matthew 9:29

 

4.  FAITH UNLOCKS ALL THE PROMISES OF GOD- 2Corinithians 1:20

 

5.  FAITH GIVES ME POWER TO HOLD ON IN TOUGH TIMES-  2Corinithians 4:8-9   (This is my signature verse!!)

 

God Bless You and you have my prayers!

 

Steve

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MNgal1960

Thank you, but my faith is gone. And it is a huge burden of guilt to be told I lack faith. And that is why God has cast us out. Maybe it's the drugs or lack of sleep. Maybe it's me. I don't know. I can't think straight.

 

My son is a special-needs (cognitive impairments) young adult who recently moved out. He is naive and gullible but will not admit it. He is trying to prove to himself and to the world that he needs no help from anyone. His father left us years ago and never really took an interest in his son. I miss my son so much it feels like my heart has been ripped out.

 

My son came to borrow his sister's car because he was in an accident. He told me he had made a friend at his fast food job. I thought that was good because my son is shy and has almost never had a friend. The friend posted on my son's FB page. I clicked to see who this friend was. What I saw on the page made me want to vomit. This is not another young guy from work. This is a much older man. I cannot tell you what I saw on his page. Besides, you don't want to know and SA certainly doesn't want it on this site. I am trying to get the pictures out of my mind. It was not normal. Not even close, and it seems to be an obsession of this much older man. Post after post after post of perversion.

 

My son is like a 14-year-old in his reasoning yet is legally an adult and this much older man has taken him in completely and hangs around him after work. I cannot do a thing abut any of this. I saw this several days ago and have been too upset to write about it. My son barely speaks to me any more and shows a contempt for me and for women that he did not used to have. I want to pray for my son, but it only sends me into a terrible depression and hours of crying. My sweet, innocent child has turned into a person I don't recognize and is in such danger. Oh, God, please open his eyes to who this evil person really is and send this evil person away to another job. Now I am feeling ill. I need to try to distract myself, but it is hard when your fatigue is so bad to keep busy and distract yourself. I have had bad bouts of fatigue and neuropathy and have been unable to taper for weeks.

 

This is my worst nightmare. I have prayed for my children all their lives, but since these drugs and my health problems stealing my sleep, my mind has been destroyed and I cannot pray. My friends have drifted away. I have one left who visits occasionally and prays for me. My family has all moved away except for my children who are in dark places because the mom they knew disappeared and was replaced by this person they do not recognize. (I also have significant physical ailments and have become unable to work and support myself.) I am alone. I am so tired. I am so upset about my children and cannot help them. If God is there, He has cast us out. And it must be something I did to deserve this. To lose my marriage and my health and my home and my job and my church and my savings and now my son. Until I lost my son, I had some hope. But this has pushed me over the edge into complete despair. I need some sign from God that He is there and He has not cast us out. I need my son back.

 

And I need relief from this neuropathy. I cannot think or function with this pain. I have an autoimmune disorder that causes neuropathy but since the taper it has gone through the roof. I am in fear of it all the time. I try to act brave around my children but I fail most of the time.

 

MN

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wareagle82

MN,

 

I am glad you shared all of the pain in your life with us.  It is so hard to understand why these things happen to believers and non believers.  No one on an online forum can offer much to you other than prayer.  I will pray again today for you and I hope the others on here will do the same. 

 

I did not mean to burden you further--I was offering some words and scripture that might help you. 

 

God is still there even in the midst of our suffering.  I am praying right now that He will intercede for your family.

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MNgal1960

Thank you. I am in high pain again today and it is difficult to respond. Just trying to function.

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megb

Please pray for me

Mrj - praying for you today! I was reading your signature... has anyone told you it might be unwise to take 5 htp & st. johns wort in combination? Thinking this may be overcompensation and could be adding to anxiety/other wd symptoms. 

 

My suggestion would be to ask a moderator on your personal thread about the supplements. Just a thought! You are not alone my friend. Lifting you up today

-Meg

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Morgane

 

Thank you, but my faith is gone. And it is a huge burden of guilt to be told I lack faith. And that is why God has cast us out. Maybe it's the drugs or lack of sleep. Maybe it's me. I don't know. I can't think straight.

 

My son is a special-needs (cognitive impairments) young adult who recently moved out. He is naive and gullible but will not admit it. He is trying to prove to himself and to the world that he needs no help from anyone. His father left us years ago and never really took an interest in his son. I miss my son so much it feels like my heart has been ripped out.

 

My son came to borrow his sister's car because he was in an accident. He told me he had made a friend at his fast food job. I thought that was good because my son is shy and has almost never had a friend. The friend posted on my son's FB page. I clicked to see who this friend was. What I saw on the page made me want to vomit. This is not another young guy from work. This is a much older man. I cannot tell you what I saw on his page. Besides, you don't want to know and SA certainly doesn't want it on this site. I am trying to get the pictures out of my mind. It was not normal. Not even close, and it seems to be an obsession of this much older man. Post after post after post of perversion.

 

My son is like a 14-year-old in his reasoning yet is legally an adult and this much older man has taken him in completely and hangs around him after work. I cannot do a thing abut any of this. I saw this several days ago and have been too upset to write about it. My son barely speaks to me any more and shows a contempt for me and for women that he did not used to have. I want to pray for my son, but it only sends me into a terrible depression and hours of crying. My sweet, innocent child has turned into a person I don't recognize and is in such danger. Oh, God, please open his eyes to who this evil person really is and send this evil person away to another job. Now I am feeling ill. I need to try to distract myself, but it is hard when your fatigue is so bad to keep busy and distract yourself. I have had bad bouts of fatigue and neuropathy and have been unable to taper for weeks.

 

This is my worst nightmare. I have prayed for my children all their lives, but since these drugs and my health problems stealing my sleep, my mind has been destroyed and I cannot pray. My friends have drifted away. I have one left who visits occasionally and prays for me. My family has all moved away except for my children who are in dark places because the mom they knew disappeared and was replaced by this person they do not recognize. (I also have significant physical ailments and have become unable to work and support myself.) I am alone. I am so tired. I am so upset about my children and cannot help them. If God is there, He has cast us out. And it must be something I did to deserve this. To lose my marriage and my health and my home and my job and my church and my savings and now my son. Until I lost my son, I had some hope. But this has pushed me over the edge into complete despair. I need some sign from God that He is there and He has not cast us out. I need my son back.

 

And I need relief from this neuropathy. I cannot think or function with this pain. I have an autoimmune disorder that causes neuropathy but since the taper it has gone through the roof. I am in fear of it all the time. I try to act brave around my children but I fail most of the time.

 

MN

I have a poster hanging in my bedroom with the following words:

 

One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord.

Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.

In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.

Sometimes there were two sets of footprints,

other times there were one set of footprints.

 

This bothered me because I noticed that during

the low periods of my life, when I was suffering

from anguish, sorrow or defeat,

I could see only one set of footprints.

 

So I said to the Lord,

"You promised me, Lord, that if I followed you,

you would walk with me always.

But I have noticed that during

the most trying periods of my life

there have only been one set of footprints in the sand.

Why, when I needed you most, you have not been there for me?"

 

The Lord replied,

"The times when you have seen only one set of footprints,

is when I carried you."

 

by Mary Stevenson

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mrj

 

Please pray for me

Mrj - praying for you today! I was reading your signature... has anyone told you it might be unwise to take 5 htp & st. johns wort in combination? Thinking this may be overcompensation and could be adding to anxiety/other wd symptoms. 

 

My suggestion would be to ask a moderator on your personal thread about the supplements. Just a thought! You are not alone my friend. Lifting you up today

-Meg

 

Thanks so much Meg, will pray for you too!

I definitely realised something was wrong when I had taken them for a while, they added to my anxiety like nothing else so discontinued. 

 

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btdt

This helped me today I hope it is helpful to people here. 

 

It is a video of a new born baby hearing her fathers voice.  

 

I wish you peace.

 

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btdt

Be Still... I know this is a fight for many of us and I fought till I dropped alone the way I have learned there is only so far I can get doing battle and because of the nature of this wd problem the more I fight the more upset my system became.... so rest is good so is meditation if you have a mind to do so. It is healing to be at peace if you can get to a state of deep relaxation and peace that is one important part of healing from this... the first bit of healing I noticed came from reaching a state of deep relaxation the first moments of peace too... the first bit of hope. I have built on it from there. 

 

Be still. This is a call for those involved in the war to stop fighting, to be still. The word still is a translation of the Hebrew word rapa, meaning “to slacken, let down, or cease.” In some instances, the word carries the idea of “to drop, be weak, or faint.” It connotes two people fighting until someone separates them and makes them drop their weapons. It is only after the fighting has stopped that the warriors can acknowledge their trust in God. Christians often interpret the command to “be still” as “to be quiet in God’s presence.” While quietness is certainly helpful, the phrase means to stop frantic activity, to let down, and to be still. For God’s people being “still” would involve looking to the Lord for their help (cf. Exodus 14:13); for God’s enemies, being “still” would mean ceasing to fight a battle they cannot win.

 

I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth. It was tempting for the nation of Israel to align with foreign powers, and God reminds them that ultimately He is exalted! God wins, and He will bring peace. During Isaiah’s time, Judah looked for help from the Egyptians, even though God warned against it. Judah did not need Egyptian might; they needed reliance on the Lord: “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength” (Isaiah 30:15).

 

I have a movement disorder of recent times it started before I quite drugs almost 9 years ago and came back in a different form now almost 9 years into wd... in the past wks I have had 3 different doctors tell me to rest... I was in a state of finding answers a place I have been often since this process started.... 

 

I have spent a good amount of the last couple of wks resting often flat on my back in bed... being still... it helped sometimes I forget and need to be reminded life reminds me.

 

wishing you all peace and healing

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MNgal1960

Wishing you peace and healing, too, btdt.

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Sheri755

Praying for peace and healing for all! ❤️

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O2bhappy

I could really use some prayers right now. On Wednesday October 12th my beloved golden retriever passed away. She had cancer and had to have her leg amputate in July. She had been doing better over the past week and then suddenly Wednesday night she collapsed and passed away. I am devasted and really struggling.

 

During this whole process of withdrawal she has always been there for me. She gave me the comfort I needed and now she is gone. I don't know what I am going to do without her.

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btdt

I said a prayer for you today there is nothing like dog love... 

wish you peace

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SelmaLady

I could really use some prayers right now. On Wednesday October 12th my beloved golden retriever passed away. She had cancer and had to have her leg amputate in July. She had been doing better over the past week and then suddenly Wednesday night she collapsed and passed away. I am devasted and really struggling.

 

During this whole process of withdrawal she has always been there for me. She gave me the comfort I needed and now she is gone. I don't know what I am going to do without her.

 

I am so sorry that you are going through this special kind of grief.  I have two Standard Poodles that are up in age and I know I will be saying goodbye too.  I also lost a beloved Lhasa Apso 10 years ago and the sadness was so deep.  

 

Oh Lord, You have given to us the joy of the friendship of animals and given us heart to love them.  We pray that the grief we feel from losing them will be comforted and that You will give your peace to O2bhappy.  Let her know that You understand the pain she is now feeling and as she reaches out for You, will find You to be a loving Father.   In His Name. 

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MNgal1960

Just want to say than you to all the praying people on here. :)

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gigi63

Hello all. My name is Jamie. I am very much desiring to connect here as I am a Christian. I needed to RI small dose last April after some hard tapering out of not being informed properly on tapering. I am still working toward good and steady. I could really use the encouragement of those on this site who know how difficult this journey is.

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gigi63

Oh2Bhappy, I am so sorry for your great loss. I have an English cream golden, she is 1 year. I have raised 2 others and they have passed. It is very difficult????????

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wareagle82

Hi Jamie

 

I am here to say I will pray for you today.  I know you'll find God's power and peace if you seek it!

 

Wise men still do.  You will come through the tapering stronger and more spiritual!

 

I am finding that out myself.

 

God Bless You!

 

Steve

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gigi63

God bless you Steve. Thank you. I am so reliant upon our Lord. I seek him so often through the day. I continue in the waves and window pattern now for 6.5 months. The RI was small so Neuro continues to adjust. Steve I wasn't even off the med. I had been tapering for ten months before all snowballed. Was very low on dose. Progress has been small, inches. The Neuro emotion is hard. Just so amplified over normal emotion. I am a prayer also so I will be praying for all too!!! Thank you for your response and prayer!!! Hope to talk soon.

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Sheri755

Hi Everyone,

I've been following this thread. You guys are the best! When the pitfalls of life grab us like this withdrawal does, people either become bitter or better.

 

I tapered Effexor for about a year, from 300 mg to 18 (which is half of the lowest dose made). I was on 18 mg for about two weeks when my psychiatrist said it was ok to stop as it would be out of my system in two weeks. :/

 

The paranoia began in two weeks, along with other sxs. I RI in July-5 beads. Ten blissful days of happiness and peace. Then a wave followed by a month long window.

I've been in another wave now since Sept 12th. Bedridden every day with wide eyed terror on most days.

 

Something very good has come of this I'm so happy to say.

My hubby's anger issues towards me are gone! We have become closer to each other and more importantly, closer to God.

 

We have devotionals and pray together nightly. God led us to a church home just before this wave hit and we had just started connecting with other couples. I hope they don't forget us.

 

If going through this is what it took to bring us closer to each other and to God, then I'm grateful for the storm. ❤️

 

These verses have brought great comfort to me and I hope they do to all of you, also.

 

❤️ Take good care and know that we are praying for all of you nightly.❤️

 

“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:11-13‬ ‭NIV

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gigi63

Sheri , I do love those verses. He promised his words to us as absolute truth and I know He is sustaining us with His might and His word! Praying for you that this wave you are in will end soon and that His all sufficient grace will keep and carry you.

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gigi63

Shari, many of us know how difficult the waves can be. I am praying for you now. One of my own personal frequests to our Lord is great perseverance and patience. I will ask this for you too❤️

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gigi63

Sheri, just a thought. I know you tapered down over a one year period from Effexor 300mg. May I ask how long you were on the Effexor? The reason I ask is because I was on bupropion for 8.5 years and as I mentioned , I had been tapering over ten mos to a small dose of about 12 mg from 150 mg. I tapered slower that what I was told by two professionals. My Dr and a pharmacist. But I was given poor advice. My point to telling you this is that I wasn't even off of the bupropion when the snowball of too fast tapering hit me. The length of time on the medication for me was a big factor. 8.5 years and my Neuro did become dependent. All I am saying I guess is that even one year is way too fast as we now know. My RI was small. I went up to 18.75mg. I have been waiting and continue to wait for good and steady. Not there yet. Probably will be months. I have been given good advice from this site. The process is slow. We need our Lords grace and might.

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Sheri755

Hi Jamie,

I was on Effexor for about 10 years. I didn't have any trouble with symptoms while I was tapering but of course, I know now that it should have been slower all the way through and especially towards the end.

 

In 2014 when I had my physical, my adrenals were normal. My 2015 physical showed that my adrenals were struggling in the fight or flight syndrome. I was puzzled but now have connected the dots. I was down to 37.5 mg Effexor when I had the 2015 physical so the taper was too fast and my adrenals were really working hard. I hadn't begun the taper yet at the 2014 physical so they were not stressed.

 

My prayer is that God will keep our injured bodies strong and see us safely through this process.

 

I had no adverse symptoms while on Effexor but knew that I should get off. I truly believe that psych drugs injure the brains of most people and this is not pleasing to God. We are able and will heal. Jesus paid the price for our healing by His stripes.

 

One day this will all be in the past. I know that God has great plans for all of us! ❤️

 

Take Gentle Care, Jamie. Sending you big hugs!! ❤️

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gigi63

Sheri, thank you. Yes, I do believe every word of what you say. I BELIEVE He is right here for us and will get us through and bring healing. I am praying for us all even now. Thank you and big hugs right back to you!!!!

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O2bhappy

triplem15 -

 

It has been very difficult.  She was my comfort.  It has now been 3 weeks since she passed away and I still cry everyday.  I miss her so much.  Please give your golden a hug and kiss from me. 

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gigi63

O2b, I can but imagine your sadness. I know what you mean about the endearing love of our pets. Several days ago as I held the face of my Mickey in my hands and I was talking to her, I asked her if she knew who she was like??? She just looked at me with her big black eyes and I told her she is as Jesus, with fur! I am so sorry for your loss. Big hugs to you from me. Be gentle one moment at a time ok.

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gigi63

Hello to all. I am praying for us all. Oh2be Happy and Sheri, how are you doing??? Little wavey day for me. Neuro sadness/feeling blue. I have heard others on the site talk of the iatrogenic Neuro emotions. In the success stories I have read, all say it heals over time. Will be so glad when this happens. Please continue to share and pray. Thanks, Jamie.

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