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Glutathione, the master antioxidant, and how to increase your intake

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Glutathione can be instrumental in healing. Here are a couple of good articles about glutathione from celebrity functional medicine advocate Dr. Mark Hyman:
 
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/12/what-is-glutathione-and-how-do-i-get-more-of-it/
 
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/19/glutathione-the-mother-of-all-antioxidants/
 
Note that eating well, including those cruciferous veggies, is one of the ways to boost your body's production of glutathione. (If you have thyroid concerns, cooking cruciferous veggies will eliminate the risk.) And, if you focus on boosting your glutathione via healthy veggies, you will get the other benefits of the veggies as well.
 
Taking bioactive aka undenatured whey protein isolates is another way to boost glutathione.
 
See our topic about undenatured whey protein isolates here
 
http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2643-whey-protein-isolate/
 
and particularly my recent note about Immunocal http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2643-whey-protein-isolate/?p=97770

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compsports

I don't doubt that glutathione is helpful.   I started taking N-acetylcysteine last week which increases these levels and it has helped with my functioning although obviously, the best supplement on this earth can't make up for chronic sleep deprivation.   But it is about the only one I have taken where I can honestly say I have seen some benefits.

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Altostrata

How much NAC are you taking and when, cs?

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compsports

600mg  of the NOW Brand around 6am.    Will try increasing the dose after next week to see if I can get any more improvement.

 

I haven't done much today due to being depressed about various issues but the past few days, I have gotten more household tasks done than I have accomplished in months.   Unfortunately NAC hasn't helped with the type of concentration I need for focused cognitive tasks that I need to be able to do but like I said, it can't make up for sleep deprivation.

 

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greentrain

Does anyone know of a practitioner who can work with you on methylation and detox, and oversee a supplement regimen? I have a naturopath but this is beyond his scope.

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Altostrata

Please use search to see our discussions about methylation, etc. Essentially, it's beyond the scope of everyone. It's very poorly understood.

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Altostrata

You're welcome, greentrain.

 

An overview about boosting glutathione http://www.immune-health-solutions-for-you.com/how-to-raise-glutathione.html (This site, an Immunocal dealer, is most enthusiastic about undenatured whey protein.)

 

Again, the raving about Immunocal is baloney. There are other undenatured whey protein isolates that are less expensive and just as good or better.

 

Oddly, the above article doesn't mention glycine. If you're getting enough cysteine in your diet, e.g. from cruciferous veggies like broccoli, adding glycine can help make glutathione -- and glycine is a calming amino acid, unlike glutamine. See http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jc.2013-2376

 

Magnesium also helps maintain glutathione http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/magnesium-and-cell-survival-glutathione

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greentrain

Thank you again. I figure adding broccoli sprouts to my diet and drinking some milk thistle should be a good start for now. ;) 

 

You guys are amazing on this forum. I've learned more here than anywhere else. 

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vonant

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Hi. I just wanted to know if anyone who has researched alot about withdrawal like maybe Altostrata had any thoughts about the role of glutathione in people in withdrawal? Glutathione depletion is seen in many auto immune disorders, chronic fatigue and other illnesses I wonder if people in withdrawal would benefit from trying to raise glutathione levels?

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I really don't know, butI I recently started a special glutathione supplement made with reduced glutathione (it is apparently difficult to supplement directly) after a year of trying to raise it indirectly, and was able to make a huge-for-me lithium cut with so far only one evening of withdrawal symptoms. The goal of the supplement, which contains several things, is to raise levels of metathalionine (not sure of spelling, it is often shortened to MT), a group of proteins that are involved in detox generally and especially of both biological (like copper) and toxic heavy metals. According to my pdoc, MT is also a huge part of sealing the gut.

I have had lots of symptoms trying to take it, going up very gradually. It is like tapering, just in reverse...huge symptoms (especially muscle pain), gradually adjust, raise the dose, do it all again, yada yada. I was to take one capsule daily for a month, then two, but I am having to increase it in 1/8 of a capsule increments. But in-between those symptoms I feel like my baseline is improving a lot. I am also doing a parasite cleanse at the same time, so not exactly sure what is causing what, but I saw a lot of progress in the three weeks I was just doing the supplement. My pdoc's opinion is that when there is trouble in the brain, there is always, always, always trouble in the gut, even if the person doesn't have gut symptoms.

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alexjuice

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I've reacted to reduced glutathione supps, they are a big part of my Mold physician's protocol and i have never tolerated them. I have heart pain and trouble breathing. I might be able to tolerate them, now that I think about it, if I couplled with them with kidney support but this idea is only coming to me know.

Meimeiquest, that MT, was very difficult for me too. It was like pushing metals right out of storage and goodness, did it cause bad symptoms. I never take it.

(Edited font by ChessieCat:  OK, I got twisted up on fonts accidentally, I hope that is readable.)

 

The main idea is that the coupled with my sensitivity the glutathione I have taken (lipsomal, nebulized and powder) have been WAY WAY WAY too powerful. I am lucky I didn't end up in the hospital, it was like I had a heart attack. At one point I talked with doc about doing 1/100th of a capsule (when I was trying the powder which was the WEAKEST of the three delivery methods) and we just chucked the idea because it wasn't workable. If I could have found a way to supplement it, I bet I wouldn't have such a bad problem with bone and connective loss though.

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Laura1981

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Wow, where do you find doctors willing to use supplements and acknowledging the gut brain connection? I think I'm in the wrong country....

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downtongirl

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Does anyone know if it is better to take glutathione in the am or pm?  Thanks in advance1

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Newbeginning

Has anyone tried injections of glutathione?

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WilliamWallace

I recently have started a detox regimen. I came down with ebv/cfs last year and this is my third year of withdrawal. So the combo has had me struggling. I've put my taper on hold for the time being until I feel ready. But based on my results so far I might give it a go pretty soon.

When I say detox I'm not talking a short period of time. Detoxes take time and a box from Walgreens is little more than a fad. I'm talking a radical change in lifestyle that I plan on sticking with for at least a year and then on. I'm 33 and tired of feeling so bad as I've had depression thats only gotten worse since I was a teen. I'm cleansing for parasites and metals and generally detoxing my body.
I think these issues and the amalgam fillings in my teeth may have been playing a larger role in my imbalances than I would have thought. It's a fairly extensive protocol that involves more time than I currently have to explain.

It's only been a short time and I already am feeling better than I have in such a long time. I'm not just going to accept that this constant state of barely tolerable existence is the new me. That's not acceptable nor is an extensive existential crisis that has been my defacto state for almost three years now.

I understand that the use of supplements is frowned upon here with good reason. Personally I'm a little adventurous and willing to experiment with things and am willing to take the risks involved. Not all supplements are created the same and withdrawal management is hardly a defined science at this point and I'm not holding my breath on any studies. I listen to my body and generally know what I'm doing. Ymmv

Of you are not somewhat stable or functional I would proceed with extreme caution. I'm only on one drug currently and stable but I still have a lot of nerve pain, heat, and that type of thing.

I think glutathione could greatly ease a lot of stress for some folks. It has done tremendous things for me since my first dose. Just about all illnesses have been linked to low glutatathione levels. I would wager that withdrawal destroys glutathione and magnesium levels among other things.

If you have tried glutahione before and received little effect its most likely bc you are doing it wrong. Oral glutathione is a waste of time unless it is liposomal. That can be prohibitively expensive. 60 bucks for 30 days or so. I'm not rich like that. You can do one of two things. Make your own liposomes or take it rectally. I take mine rectally in solution with an oral syringe and it has done wonders. My nerve pain almost disappeared immediately. You can also make suppositories if you prefer. They are simple to make.

A lot of folks have hang ups with the rectal route but it's honestly the next best thing to IV. Almost just as good. So I would try to learn to get over that hang up if you want to feel better. Its really simple and not a big deal once you get used to it. I take lots of supplements that way bc many supplements are destroyed in your gut rendering them useless.

Glutathione is a little acidic. You may want to buffer your solution with something slightly alkaline to get the ph close to 7. Personally I use a little aloe essential oil and I haven't had any issues.

My personal feelings are that many of us crazies had issues with either parasites, metals, yeast mold or other toxins and pollutants and that's why we felt so bad to begin with. Things we should have Been checked for in the first place before the doctors drugged us to the gills for our non existent serotonin deficiencies. So I think changing your diet and getting rid of the toxins in your homes, and cleansing for these things might make a huge difference.

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VitaminB

My functional medicine doctor said glutathione is better absorbed in a suppository. I have made my own with shea butter. Heat the shea butter and open a capsule of the powder mixed in. Put it in the fridge to form, wrap with some wax paper, stick them in the freezer and use them at night. Does anyone have a better suppository making method? I feel a lot of energy after these first few days of taking them. I take them at night because it is a messy process, but it seems to give me energy. 

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