angie007 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hi Guys, Well im in my 8th week free of paxil now, and today seems to have started out to be a better day in many ways, but,,,, ouch the lower back pain, it started for me after my docs idea of tapering in 2005, it was the equivalent of ct, and the back pain has travelled with me since then. Somedays its downright atrocious, others its tolerable, and it has been known to disappear altogether at times, but today... its at a 12/10, ive taken paracetemol with little relief, does anyone know if there is something else i could try that would not kick off wd symptoms, as i know while tapering i could not do advil/ibuprofen, just really looking for a little relief here, im beginning to feel like a pensioner way before my time. Anyone else suffer lower back pain in wd????? any tips to offer. Began taking 30mg Seroxat on 15th Jan 1997 for grief issues. Remained at that dosage until Dec 05, did doctor ct, akathesia set in along with being non functional and overly emotional, brain fog. Doctor prescribed prozac, propranelol and diazeapam to counteract side effects, and told me to ct those 3 after 2.5/3 months use, induced wd seizure on 2nd day after ct. Was reinstated on seroxat 20mg in april 06, remained at that dose until Nov 07 and began a very slow taper lasting 56 months, finally DRUG FREE on 11th may 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus Baxter Posted June 29, 2011 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 29, 2011 I have found both accupuncture and physical therapy helpful for my spine pain. I generally get hit in the neck. Good for you, Angie! 8 weeks! 1989 - 1992 Parnate* 1992-1998 Paxil - pooped out*, oxazapam, inderal 1998 - 2005 Celexa - pooped out* klonopin, oxazapam, inderal *don't remember doses 2005 -2007 Cymbalta 60 mg oxazapam, inderal, klonopin Started taper in 2007: CT klonopin, oxazapam, inderal (beta blocker) - 2007 Cymbalta 60mg to 30mg 2007 -2010 July 2010 - March 2018 on hiatus due to worsening w/d symptoms, which abated and finally disappeared. Then I stalled for about 5 years because I didn't want to deal with W/D. March 2018 - May 2018 switch from 30mg Cymbalta to 20mg Celexa 19 mg Celexa October 7, 2018 18 mg Celexa November 5, 2018 17 mg Celexa December 2, 2019 16 mg Celexa January 6, 2018 15 mg Celexa March 7, 2019 14 mg Celexa April 24, 2019 13 mg Celexa June 28, 2019 12.8 mg Celexa November 10, 2019 12.4 Celexa August 31, 2020 12.2 Celexa December 28, 2020 12 mg Celexa March 2021 11 mg Celexa February 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I get Mid back pain and severe neck pain, I usually just take Paracetamol or suffer in silence. Started Seroxat(Paxil) for panic attacks in 1997 stopped the drug in 2005 tapered over 3 months ( doctors advice) Suffered severe and protracted withdrawl ever since. No other medication taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Look on the internet for back pain/gentle stretches. There are several that can be done easily. Also, try sleeping with a pillow between your thighs and knees. That helps me when my back is tight and in spasm. Charter Member 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie007 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Thanxs guys, I get the flipping neck pain too, yuck in agony on the darn drug and agony off too, one day we will beat this thing hopefully lol. Began taking 30mg Seroxat on 15th Jan 1997 for grief issues. Remained at that dosage until Dec 05, did doctor ct, akathesia set in along with being non functional and overly emotional, brain fog. Doctor prescribed prozac, propranelol and diazeapam to counteract side effects, and told me to ct those 3 after 2.5/3 months use, induced wd seizure on 2nd day after ct. Was reinstated on seroxat 20mg in april 06, remained at that dose until Nov 07 and began a very slow taper lasting 56 months, finally DRUG FREE on 11th may 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 29, 2011 Administrator Share Posted June 29, 2011 Acupuncture, physical therapy, chiropractic can help. Also, many of us have lower back pain from sitting too much, the back gets weak and maybe withdrawal sensitivity hits it -- back exercises can be good, too. I have a congenital (born with it) lower back problem and I got to Pilates classes, they've just about eliminated the back pain. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie007 Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Anyone tried ARNICA gel for back pain????? Seems it works, but wondering how or if it would affect us in wd, as i know all herbal remedies are not ok for everyone, as most have sensitivities after paxil use. Began taking 30mg Seroxat on 15th Jan 1997 for grief issues. Remained at that dosage until Dec 05, did doctor ct, akathesia set in along with being non functional and overly emotional, brain fog. Doctor prescribed prozac, propranelol and diazeapam to counteract side effects, and told me to ct those 3 after 2.5/3 months use, induced wd seizure on 2nd day after ct. Was reinstated on seroxat 20mg in april 06, remained at that dose until Nov 07 and began a very slow taper lasting 56 months, finally DRUG FREE on 11th may 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie007 Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Have noticed that earlier on in wd, the back pain used to be constant, when at 10 wks off i woke up with zero back pain and am free of pain all morning until about 2.30 pm , then at 3months off, the back pain only becomes evident late afternoon 5/6pm but is extremely painful and is still present when i go to bed. So although its as painful, it seems to be appearing later and later in the day ?? which puzzles me. Began taking 30mg Seroxat on 15th Jan 1997 for grief issues. Remained at that dosage until Dec 05, did doctor ct, akathesia set in along with being non functional and overly emotional, brain fog. Doctor prescribed prozac, propranelol and diazeapam to counteract side effects, and told me to ct those 3 after 2.5/3 months use, induced wd seizure on 2nd day after ct. Was reinstated on seroxat 20mg in april 06, remained at that dose until Nov 07 and began a very slow taper lasting 56 months, finally DRUG FREE on 11th may 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I've had back pain forever, even while on meds, so I don't think it's withdrawal related. I've actually been doing better than in a long time by doing pilates. I went to a chiropractor for a year and it just made me worse... but that could be because my problems are a congenital defect in my lower back and my pelvis and sacrum getting shifted from a fall too many years ago. I think the attempt to fix the problem was worse... the chiropractor blamed my lack of progress on something I was doing, but when I quit going and started pilates, my pain improved about 95% within 3 months. So, I recommend pilates! I do get weird muscle pains which I think are withdrawal related... for that too I think exercise and massage is best. And drinking lots of water. '94-'08 On/off ADs. Mostly Zoloft & Wellbutrin, but also Prozac, Celexa, Effexor, etc.6/08 quit Z & W after tapering, awful anxiety 3 mos. later, reinstated.11/10 CTed. Severe anxiety 3 mos. later & @ 8 mos. much worse (set off by metronidazole). Anxiety, depression, anhedonia, DP, DR, dizziness, severe insomnia, high serum AM cortisol, flu-like feelings, muscle discomfort.9/11-9/12 Waves and windows of recovery.10/12 Awful relapse, DP/DR. Hydrocortisone?11/12 Improved fairly quickly even though relapse was one of worst waves ever. 1/13 Best I've ever felt. 3/13 A bit of a relapse... then faster and shorter waves and windows. 4/14 Have to watch out for triggers, but feel completely normal about 80% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roads Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I have back pains, on my spine (middle and low area. Pain in the bones, not the muscles (impression of stiffness also). It freaks me out, I have the impression of having a distorted and twisted spine! I am gonna make a radio, at least to reassure myself, but can it is wd related? I know that back pain is part of the bundle, but I have read a lot about muscles. Can it be in the bones? I find it difficult to understand the relation, but why not. As I am pretty tall, it may be a physical problem. My biggest fear is that it triggers a RLS leg. (my tickling has traumatizes me). Anyway, this feeling of distorted spine is pretty scary. Anyone has the same? First AD -sertraline- in 2007at the age of 13 because of child abuse 2009-2013: intricate story of multiple wds, meds and cts, gradually became a living mess Feb 2013: last CT from a cocktail of four drugs, symptoms are relenting but witness a constant sharpening of the brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 15, 2011 Administrator Share Posted October 15, 2011 ang, seriously, hunching over a computer aggravates whatever sensitivity to pain you have in your lower back. Exercise can really help. Are you walking every day? Taking breaks from the computer? Roads, your situation may be similar. It's probably not your bones, it's a hypersensitivity reaction. Maybe the ligaments around your bones are tense as well. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roads Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Yes, I walk 40 min at least everyday (I have always liked loitering). I have cut the time spent in front of the screen, between two hours to four hours on average. The probelm is that as I am pretty tall, it is quite impossible to straighten my back when I sit so as to eat or be on computer... I'll go to the doctor and make a radio, just in case it would need some care, but I think it must be the tendon as you pointed out. it would explain the sensation of stiffness. First AD -sertraline- in 2007at the age of 13 because of child abuse 2009-2013: intricate story of multiple wds, meds and cts, gradually became a living mess Feb 2013: last CT from a cocktail of four drugs, symptoms are relenting but witness a constant sharpening of the brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanti Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I started having bad low back pain a couple years ago. I don't know it has to do with the fact that's when I started anti-depressants. I have all kinds of tests and can't find out why. Doctor then diagnosed me with Fibromyalgia. But I don't believe that dx. I did physical therapy a few months ago and it helped alot. I really enjoyed the pt in the pool. Taper from Cymbalta, Paxil, Prozac & Antipsychotics finished June 2012. Xanax 5% Taper - (8/12 - .5 mg) - (9/12 - .45) - (10/12 - .43) - (11/12 - .41) - (12/12 - .38) My Paxil Website My Intro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdsequoia Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) Quadriceps cramps, lower back pain In 2016-2017 I was having lower back pain (due to improper, too-intense, self-prescribed exercises, after being sedentary for years). A physiotherapist showed me a simple set of about 10 exercises, and they did fix my pain! For example: - bridging - writing the numbers 1-10 with a single (outstretched) leg, then with the other Currently I'm having Quadriceps (inner thigh) cramps (likely caused by WD and/or Tolperisone) and some lower back pain. My recent experience (before this) was that when I do the above two exercises, my cramps get a lot worse, and stay like that for 2-3 days. How do I do such exercises without exacerbating the cramps? Or maybe I should switch to other exercises? Edited November 1, 2020 by ChessieCat added topic title I am not a doctor. My posts are not medical advice. | CYP450 interactions | drug.com interactions Red means updose. Abilify: 34.46mg 26Apr20; 32.71mg 18May20; 31.75mg 13Jun20; 30.48mg 22Jun20; 29.56mg 28Jun20; 28.96mg 30Jul20; 28.09mg 20Aug20; 27.44mg 28Sep20; 26.80mg 20Oct20; 26.17mg 22Oct20; 25.53mg 28Oct20; 26.17mg 30Oct20; 26.81mg 4Nov20, 26.01mg 7Dec20, 26.81mg 13Dec20, 26.97mg 3Jan21, 27.29mg 25Jan21, 26.65mg 30Jan21, 26.01mg 28Feb21, 25.69mg 8Mar21, 25.85mg 10Mar21, 25.53mg 18Mar21, 25.21mg 28Mar21, 25.37mg 29Mar21, 25.53mg 30Mar21, 25.21mg 16Apr21 Paxil: Took it from Oct2019 to 15Apr20 with max dose 40mg. Lots of uneducated ups and downs (of the dosage) during that time. Then switched to Lexapro. Lexapro: Started with 15mg on 15Apr20. 18.54mg 28Jun20. Tapered to current dose (16.58mg) until 5Nov20 Tolperisone: Have been taking it (300mg) from Oct2019 to Sep2021. Then switched to baclofen. Baclofen: Have been taking it (15mg) from Sep2021 till now. Tizanidine: Have been taking it (3mg) from Apr2022 till now. Biperiden: 2.7mg 1Jun20; 2.6mg 26May21; 2.5mg 31May21; 2.38mg 18Jun21; 2.11mg 4Jul21; 2.34mg 18Jul2021; 2.11mg 15Sep2021; 2mg 15Oct2021; 1.86mg 15Jan2022. Acomodin: Have been taking 1 tabl. from Sep2021. Then, 2 tabl. from 7Jan2022. Contains astaxanthin which is a CYP3A4 inductor (raises blood levels of my other meds) Supplements: chelated magnesium 600mg (+50g pumpkin seeds); vit D3 400IU when the need arises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icequeen Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) I have these thigh cramps 24/7 in protracted WD from Zoloft and they refuse to stop. Nothing helps. Seems I’m not the only one. It is very painful. If you find something that helps, please let me know! Edited November 1, 2020 by ChessieCat deleted comment which was in response to a now deleted post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 For cramps sometimes i do a bit of walking and gentle stretching & yoga. That's what this video basically is. 2008-2012: Cymbalta, Zyprexa, Valium (5 days supply), 2012 - Seroquel x 4 weeks C/T. 2014 - Seroquel x 2 Weeks C/T. Crossed to Risperidone 3mg for 6months until December. 2014 - Stopped Risperidone. Xfer > Anti-Depressant 200mg Zoloft and 6mg Clonazepam. 2018 - 150mg Clomipromine changed Anti-depressant. Tapered Benzo to 1mg Clonazepam. 2019 - xfer to 20mg Diazepam. Currently: Anafranil: 75mg. 17th Dec 2022 70mg. 27th Dec 22: 75mg, 14 January 23': 70mg. 16-26th January: 50mg (too fast drop no sleep). Jan 28th 2023: 70mg. 20 Feb 2023: 65mg. 11/06: 60mg 9/08: 55mg 15/08/23 : 50mg 3/03/2024: 60mg (Updose) Diazepam (V): 25th Oct 2019' 20mg. 22 Dec 19' 19mg. 04 Apr 2020' 18mg, 30 September 20' 17.5mg , 13 Nov 2020' 17mg. 01 January 2021: 16mg, 13th Aug 21' 15mg. 1st Nov' 2021 14.5mg. 1st Dec' 2021 14mg. 13 January 2022: 13.5mg, 11 Feb: 13mg. 11 April 22' 12.5mg, 12 May 22': 12mg, 6th September 2022: 11mg Valium. 9th October: 10.5mg, 25th Oct 10mg. 12 March 23: 9.5mg 2 April: 9.25mg 23 April: 9mg 12/05: 8.75 26/05: 8.5 12/09: 8.25 21/09: 8.5. 3/10: 8.25 17/10: 8mg 20th Nov Brassmonkey: (7.9.,7.8, 7.75) 5 Feb: 7.25mg. 23 Feb: 7mg *. Have tried to go at faster rate than 0.5mg but is currently too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdsequoia Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Thanks, Ryder. I'm not very familiar with yoga - does it include gentle strengthening exercises, or just stretches? icequeen, I've been taking more (and different) magnesium the last 2 days, and it works wonders - I can now actually go shopping for 30-40 minutes without risking getting stuck outside due to cramps activating. Specifically, I now take this: Doctor's Best Chelated Magnesium Glycinate/Lysinate 4x100mg I try to take it with food, because I've found that this way I get much less GI discomfort from it. It's not a 100% cramp-intensity reduction, but still, maybe 80%. I'm still afraid of retrying the above-described physical exercises, tho. I am not a doctor. My posts are not medical advice. | CYP450 interactions | drug.com interactions Red means updose. Abilify: 34.46mg 26Apr20; 32.71mg 18May20; 31.75mg 13Jun20; 30.48mg 22Jun20; 29.56mg 28Jun20; 28.96mg 30Jul20; 28.09mg 20Aug20; 27.44mg 28Sep20; 26.80mg 20Oct20; 26.17mg 22Oct20; 25.53mg 28Oct20; 26.17mg 30Oct20; 26.81mg 4Nov20, 26.01mg 7Dec20, 26.81mg 13Dec20, 26.97mg 3Jan21, 27.29mg 25Jan21, 26.65mg 30Jan21, 26.01mg 28Feb21, 25.69mg 8Mar21, 25.85mg 10Mar21, 25.53mg 18Mar21, 25.21mg 28Mar21, 25.37mg 29Mar21, 25.53mg 30Mar21, 25.21mg 16Apr21 Paxil: Took it from Oct2019 to 15Apr20 with max dose 40mg. Lots of uneducated ups and downs (of the dosage) during that time. Then switched to Lexapro. Lexapro: Started with 15mg on 15Apr20. 18.54mg 28Jun20. Tapered to current dose (16.58mg) until 5Nov20 Tolperisone: Have been taking it (300mg) from Oct2019 to Sep2021. Then switched to baclofen. Baclofen: Have been taking it (15mg) from Sep2021 till now. Tizanidine: Have been taking it (3mg) from Apr2022 till now. Biperiden: 2.7mg 1Jun20; 2.6mg 26May21; 2.5mg 31May21; 2.38mg 18Jun21; 2.11mg 4Jul21; 2.34mg 18Jul2021; 2.11mg 15Sep2021; 2mg 15Oct2021; 1.86mg 15Jan2022. Acomodin: Have been taking 1 tabl. from Sep2021. Then, 2 tabl. from 7Jan2022. Contains astaxanthin which is a CYP3A4 inductor (raises blood levels of my other meds) Supplements: chelated magnesium 600mg (+50g pumpkin seeds); vit D3 400IU when the need arises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/26/2019 at 6:49 PM, gdsequoia said: does it include gentle strengthening exercises, or just stretches? Yes. Both. Vinyasa class is basically strengthening with a bit of stretching. Beginners start at Level 1. Yin class speciliases in stretches. This is what I do. You hold each pose for roughly 5 mins and you don't have to talk to anyone which i what I like about it. They also give you special pillows and blocks if you are unable to stretch far in the beggining but it is really nice to get outside and off the computer screen while doing it with other people. 2008-2012: Cymbalta, Zyprexa, Valium (5 days supply), 2012 - Seroquel x 4 weeks C/T. 2014 - Seroquel x 2 Weeks C/T. Crossed to Risperidone 3mg for 6months until December. 2014 - Stopped Risperidone. Xfer > Anti-Depressant 200mg Zoloft and 6mg Clonazepam. 2018 - 150mg Clomipromine changed Anti-depressant. Tapered Benzo to 1mg Clonazepam. 2019 - xfer to 20mg Diazepam. Currently: Anafranil: 75mg. 17th Dec 2022 70mg. 27th Dec 22: 75mg, 14 January 23': 70mg. 16-26th January: 50mg (too fast drop no sleep). Jan 28th 2023: 70mg. 20 Feb 2023: 65mg. 11/06: 60mg 9/08: 55mg 15/08/23 : 50mg 3/03/2024: 60mg (Updose) Diazepam (V): 25th Oct 2019' 20mg. 22 Dec 19' 19mg. 04 Apr 2020' 18mg, 30 September 20' 17.5mg , 13 Nov 2020' 17mg. 01 January 2021: 16mg, 13th Aug 21' 15mg. 1st Nov' 2021 14.5mg. 1st Dec' 2021 14mg. 13 January 2022: 13.5mg, 11 Feb: 13mg. 11 April 22' 12.5mg, 12 May 22': 12mg, 6th September 2022: 11mg Valium. 9th October: 10.5mg, 25th Oct 10mg. 12 March 23: 9.5mg 2 April: 9.25mg 23 April: 9mg 12/05: 8.75 26/05: 8.5 12/09: 8.25 21/09: 8.5. 3/10: 8.25 17/10: 8mg 20th Nov Brassmonkey: (7.9.,7.8, 7.75) 5 Feb: 7.25mg. 23 Feb: 7mg *. Have tried to go at faster rate than 0.5mg but is currently too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 1, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 1, 2020 Similar topics merged * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 1, 2020 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 1, 2020 I've just done a search on YouTube for pilates for lower back pain exercises routine and found this one which looks good and there are lots of comments saying that it has helped them with back pain. And of course, proceed with caution. Katie Mackenzie - Pilates for Lower Back Pain Here's the search results: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pilates+for+lower+back+pain+exercises+routine * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts