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About anhedonia, et al. First I feel for all of you, tho I know thats incongruous at this point. Humor? Perhaps. I've experienced ALL of the above but I wish I could return to work. I miss it so much, I miss myself more. It was the psychotic break that made me leave. At the time I assumed it was from the MDD or the Ptsd, etc. Thru my experience + reading these posts, I feel that and the anhedonia are direct results of all the meds I was taking, plus the WD of said meds. Its in my history notes but I believe a lame doc allowed this to happen. Yes, I must go to the intro section to fill in but I needed to get the thought out while I still could. Unfortunately, even the good drs dont really understand. After years of prozac + paxil + AP's my current drs (m.d. + therapy) still want me on meds + discussing my cognitive behavior. The only thing I havent told them is I weaned off the zoloft a couple months ago + doing same with the adderall. Its all a viscious circle...apparently, if im not under their care I could lose my SS bene's and medicare. I'd rather walk away while im still capable. Im entering my 6th year of zombie-dom. The bouts of clinical depression all my life then the hours + days of mental detachment [ that ended my career] were frightening enough, but this "non-existence" has been hell on earth. I am really jaded now b/c all these years I had faith in the system + I just wasnt responding to the meds or treatments. My visiting psych nurse (a sorry joke) told me that its all about the money. I truly believe that now. I really believe him, since that cost med ins $2,000 per month...twice of what I receive to live off of. I fired him. Sorry to go on. I know everyone here understands + I was so relieved to find others in the same boat. Thank u all for putting it out there. If theres 1 small speck of me left inside, im praying this wont last forever. Optimism WAS my middle name. Good luck to all of you. Till next time

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Ok im gonna mess up my intro. I did leave a longwinded post in anhedonia/demotivation. I can be eloquent but terrible with directions. I'll be back. Sorry.

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Hi Pitykitty,

Welcome to SA.  I read your post on the anhedonia/demotivation thread.  You could just copy that here into your intro thread if you wanted to, or I could move it here because it is mainly about your own story and situation.

 

Once we know more about you and your circumstances, I'm sure we will be able to help.

 

This site can be difficult to navigate at first and drug side effects and withdrawal can make things even worse, so no need to be sorry.

 

Petu.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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Thanx Petu, yes could u please attach that for me? Im on mobile internet & u r sooo right about what WD does to learning + skills. It took me 2 years to figure the basics of this phone. Oy vey! I've had Add + detach issues all my life, but they've got NOTHING on what post ADs have done to me. I tell you, if it weren't happening to me I'd be fascinated by the science of it. But I digress....I appreciate ur help. Have a good day :-)

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I havent been able to read a book in the last 5 years and I used to enjoy that. Anyone else? The few friends I have left think im a buzzkill or that im "not making an effort". Bite me!! I can manage an article here or there but at least I have memory of great stories/authors i've read in the past. Everyone has titles that have made an impression on them whether theyre duds or classics. When I was little it was Black Beauty. Simple, yet meaningful and teaches one about cruelty + kindness. Plus it was a happy ending...something lacking these days. Then in my teens a book which I now recognize as totally prophetic - Flowers for Algernon. They made a movie in the 60's (didnt see) titled Charly, but the story was gripping. A young man with mental problems who is given experimental meds/becomes smart + happy/then starts to regress. I think about it often lately. The most recent I could partake was Anam Cara-A Book of Celtic Wisdom. Life, love, & wisdom.. light + good. Sorry I dont recall the authors but im sure its an easy lookup. Finally - the book I WANT to read when im able. How Have You Loved? A spiritual book by a local medium Karen Hluchan. Im told its a book of awareness + inspiration, which sounds good to me. So, to hell with that 50 Shades of crap! and if any of u can still get into reading or have read any of these, give a shout.

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Hello Pitty and welcome,

 

we have one thread per person policy here. That's why I merged the above thread with your original thread. As Petu said, it took all of us some time to figure out how to use the forum. There are various sections here. This on is for introducing our situation and subsequent updates on tapering and other developments. But it is your thread and you can use it in any way you want. Many of us journal our progress.

 

I hope this is not too confusing :) 

 

When you find the time it would be helpful to put a brief summary of your drug history as described here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/893-please-put-your-withdrawal-history-in-your-signature/

 

Bubble

Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2

2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013)

Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 
1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg.
2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg
went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days after
reinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours
28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr  2015 1 mg,  25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64  Xanax     9 month hold

24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26

Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic 

I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. 

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Thank u Bubble. I think im starting to absorb some of this. I know it'll work in eventually. You're all very helpful! Dare I say...I'm starting to enjoy this website. Hmmmm, sounds like progress. Take care

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Thanx Petu, yes could u please attach that for me?

 

Done, it now appears as the first post on this thread.

 

After years of prozac + paxil + AP's my current drs (m.d. + therapy) still want me on meds + discussing my cognitive behavior. The only thing I havent told them is I weaned off the zoloft a couple months ago + doing same with the adderall.

 

This is what we need details of in order to be able to offer help and suggestions.  The more details you can provide, the better...

 

all medications, dates, dosages and how you stopped taking them.  As Bubble suggested, putting these details into your signature makes it easier for members to understand your situation when reading your posts.  Please read the link she provided for instructions for how to do it.  I think you need to be on a computer or tablet to add your signature.

 

Please see the Important Topics in Tapering for more information including details about how to taper your particular drug.

 

And here's another important read which explains our basic method of tapering:  Why Taper By 10% of My Dosage?

 

 

I havent been able to read a book in the last 5 years and I used to enjoy that. Anyone else?

 

I'm the same, I also used to be an avid book reader, especially fiction, but now I can't seem to focus for more than a few minutes.  But something I did manage to read most of recently was Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker I highly recommend it.  Other resources you may find helpful are Your Drug may be you Problem by Dr. Peter Breggin and Council for Evidence Based Psychiatry

 

I'm glad you are enjoying the site.  Once you get back to us with more details about your drug history and situation, we will be in a better position to offer support and suggestions.  You will find a lot of friendly help and support here.

 

Petu.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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I thank u and I read the tips & i've concluded im unable to do my signature b/c im on cell phone. I cant afford my computer or buy a tablet, unfortunately. I go to library a couple times a year to go online but there is no privacy...kinda creepy. But im not discouraged. I'll keep up until theres a solution. Meanwhile i'll jot a short, comprehensive list so I can add on asap. Well, off to bed. I see my therapist tomorrow and frankly...after realizing all of this is not ME - I dont really want to bother. Have a good nite.

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Cool Petu, I will save those titles for when I get back to myself. Yes, I did make it to therapy. My perspective is so changed I found myself thinking i'd have better results speaking with a drunk at a pub. Only i'd have to pay for drinks ;-) Just being snarky.

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Hi PK--

 

If you get a chance I highly recommend getting hold of a copy of Anatomy of an Epidemic. I think you will find it very validating even if you can only manage to read a little at a time. (I can really relate to that, I lost my ability to read for enjoyment for a long time and still don't have it back completely, but it's better now.)

 

When you get the chance to, please fill us in on more details of your med history. We might be able to offer some suggestions both to help you feel better and more stable now, and to help you lower your drug burden and reduce the drug effects into the future. You would be amazed at how much of yourself you can get back. But it's a very very slow process. 

Started on Prozac and Xanax in 1992 for PTSD after an assault. One drug led to more, the usual story. Got sicker and sicker, but believed I needed the drugs for my "underlying disease". Long story...lost everything. Life savings, home, physical and mental health, relationships, friendships, ability to work, everything. Amitryptiline, Prozac, bupropion, buspirone, flurazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, Paxil, citalopram, lamotrigine, gabapentin...probably more I've forgotten. 

Started multidrug taper in Feb 2010.  Doing a very slow microtaper, down to low doses now and feeling SO much better, getting my old personality and my brain back! Able to work full time, have a full social life, and cope with stress better than ever. Not perfect, but much better. After 23 lost years. Big Pharma has a lot to answer for. And "medicine for profit" is just not a great idea.

 

Feb 15 2010:  300 mg Neurontin  200 Lamictal   10 Celexa      0.65 Xanax   and 5 mg Ambien 

Feb 10 2014:   62 Lamictal    1.1 Celexa         0.135 Xanax    1.8 Valium

Feb 10 2015:   50 Lamictal      0.875 Celexa    0.11 Xanax      1.5 Valium

Feb 15 2016:   47.5 Lamictal   0.75 Celexa      0.0875 Xanax    1.42 Valium    

2/12/20             12                       0.045               0.007                   1 

May 2021            7                       0.01                  0.0037                1

Feb 2022            6                      0!!!                     0.00167               0.98                2.5 mg Ambien

Oct 2022       4.5 mg Lamictal    (off Celexa, off Xanax)   0.95 Valium    Ambien, 1/4 to 1/2 of a 5 mg tablet 

 

I'm not a doctor. Any advice I give is just my civilian opinion.

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Hi Rhi & thank u so much. I will definately grab that book when I hit the library. Validation is so important. Just being on this site has helped tremendously. I do apologize for bouncing around, but I like to read everyone's stories as much as possible. I've commented on some...and rather lengthily. But its therapeutic, right? I do promise to give my history when I get access to a computer. Lots of my experiences i've included in various topics. Its great to have others to relate to - finally! I'll be back here with new developments or revelations of past experience. Thanx again.

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I forgot to say im on mobile web + dont have option of adding history to my signature. I wonder if its possible to list it here & have it moved? Prob not, cuz its a tech thing. What i'll do is make a quick history tonite to add on my thread here so there's reference. There's a lo-tech solution to everything, yes?

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* quote below is copied from 'anhedonia' topic

 

I've been there too..per both posts. Im there right now. The apathy + demotivation are so torturous. I had a great 2 month wave of "normal" this fall. Tho I enjoyed it I just get so down when I go back to A-head. (my nickname for anhedonia, et al). Remarkably, after my fantastic window I went back to the flatness + lack of enjoyment BUT!! my 4 1/2 year bout of agoraphobia is gone. It took me a week to notice but i'm blown away by this. I told my pdoc but he thinks its b/c of his skill + meds. Really?? Once again, he's not aware that I tapered. I'm completely off all psych meds now. Im so pleased about this development + its my 3rd month agora-free. He cant explain it nor can I...its just hard to enjoy when the demotivation gives u no reason to go out or do anything. Dont get me wrong cuz im as thrilled as my A-head will allow me. Like a surfer I'll just await my next good wave. Another positive point is that it was the 1st holiday season in 5 years that I didnt fear or dread. So even tho I didnt "enjoy" it, I was happy that I could finally participate. I hope everyone here had a positive experience during the holiday and in future. Thank you all for listening.

 

Hi PityKitty,

I noticed this update you wrote on the Anhedonia thread, so I copied it here.  Your own introduction thread is the best place for updates, it keeps all your information and progress together in one place.

 

This is good news that you are having windows and your agoraphobia is gone :)

 

If you could add your drug history to your thread, like you mentioned in your previous post, that would be great.

 

Petu.

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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Hi PityKitty

 

Just wondering how you are going

 

Dalsaan

Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others.On Effexor for 2 months at the start of 2005. Had extreme insomnia as an adverse reaction. Changed to mirtazapine. Have been trying to get off since mid 2008 with numerous failures including CTs and slow (but not slow enough tapers)Have slow tapered at 10 per cent or less for years. I have liquid mirtazapine made at a compounding chemist.

Was on 1.6 ml as at 19 March 2014.

Dropped to 1.5 ml 7 June 2014. Dropped to 1.4 in about September.

Dropped to 1.3 on 20 December 2014. Dropped to 1.2 in mid Jan 2015.

Dropped to 1 ml in late Feb 2015. I think my old medication had run out of puff so I tried 1ml when I got the new stuff and it seems to be going ok. Sleep has been good over the last week (as of 13/3/15).

Dropped to 1/2 ml 14/11/15 Fatigue still there as are memory and cognition problems. Sleep is patchy but liveable compared to what it has been in the past.

 

DRUG FREE - as at 1st May 2017

 

>My intro post is here - http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2250-dalsaan

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