Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted February 25, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 25, 2015 Awww , thankyou! Am sending you a hug through cyber-space. It really will be okay. xxx 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
indigo Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 You WILL get better Articjessy. Your work right now is only to get through this one day at a time. There are groups in London who support withdrawal like you're going through. I think they'd be more help than your doctor. Here's a link that could lead to some real help. http://www.citawithdrawal.org.uk On 20 mg of Prozac for about ten years. Sept 2012 started reducing 10% a drop using gram scale, with average of one month holds. When I'd reached the half way mark, taking 10 mg powder out of the 20 mg capsules, I switched over to 10 mg capsules and cutting down from those. Withdrawals got harder the lower I dropped. May 2013 changed to 5% drops, holding until all withdrawal symptoms gone. January 2015 changed to liquid prozac (concentration of 20MG per 5 mL) using a 1mL oral syringe. Current dose of fluoxetine solution equivalent 3.4 mg. Any effort to drop below this has been disastrous so for the time being I'm staying at this level. Adding 200 mg Tryptophan and 200 GABA a day has helped with anxiety. Also take 1,300mg Omega- 3, 875mg Magnesium, 1800mg Curcumin, 1000mg Vit C, 5000 Vit D. Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hello Articjessy. I've just been reading through your thread. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Akathisia is awful. I have it too. Have you come across Angie who recovered fully from akathisia? She had it really bad. She has seen lots of people go through akathisia and recover. Here is the link to her blog ... https://akathisiainfo.wordpress.com/2013/08/ You can leave a comment on her blog or just ask her to email you. She is really lovely and very helpful. This will get better in time. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thank you everyone. It's very helpful getting encouragement. I get this weird sense of urgency like the grass is not growing fast enough or the cars are going too slow, is that anything anyone can relate to ? I'm worried I'm developing bi polar, I have never displayed any bi polar tendencies before in my life. Thank you for putting my mind at rest I think I would be in hospital without this site. 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Has anyone seen Dr David Healy ? From Wales Iv emailed them but no response 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 3, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hi AJ , did you email him via davidhealy.org ? 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Hi Fresh Yes I have, he said if I get a referral from my GP he will see me but they often won't do the referral. I'm going to ask next time I go to my GP but I'm not sure she will do it as she thinks this is all in my head. Xx 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 8, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 8, 2015 Aj , have you started taking seriphos? I'm wondering if it is helping at all? 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hey fresh No not yet don't know what is stopping me I think I just wanted to try the krill oil for a bit. Does this make sense ?the last few days Iv had terrible sleep like 2-4 hrs a night but have felt slightly calmer and less depressed than last night I slept 6-7 hrs and I feel all my anxiety and dark mood back is that normal ? Iv felt it before more sleep makes me very anxious and jittery. AJ 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Bad day Constant panic / terror / feeling like I can't quite believe I'm here. Constant tears. Watch people pass my house and want to be like them, walking, laughing, being normal. I feel I need to do something to sort this out but I don't know what. Everyday I wish for the next to see if it improves but it never does, how long can I wait it's been months 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 14, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 14, 2015 AJ , are you keeping any sort of journal or records? I'm wondering if you feel that overall , things are on an upwards trajectory in the past month , or is it going downwards? If it's hard to tell , keeping records can help you look at things more objectively than when you try to remember. xxx 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
indigo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Might help to think of just getting through one day at a time. Or a couple of hours at a time. Did you ever contact http://www.citawithdrawal.org.uk for support in U.K. ? On 20 mg of Prozac for about ten years. Sept 2012 started reducing 10% a drop using gram scale, with average of one month holds. When I'd reached the half way mark, taking 10 mg powder out of the 20 mg capsules, I switched over to 10 mg capsules and cutting down from those. Withdrawals got harder the lower I dropped. May 2013 changed to 5% drops, holding until all withdrawal symptoms gone. January 2015 changed to liquid prozac (concentration of 20MG per 5 mL) using a 1mL oral syringe. Current dose of fluoxetine solution equivalent 3.4 mg. Any effort to drop below this has been disastrous so for the time being I'm staying at this level. Adding 200 mg Tryptophan and 200 GABA a day has helped with anxiety. Also take 1,300mg Omega- 3, 875mg Magnesium, 1800mg Curcumin, 1000mg Vit C, 5000 Vit D. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 15, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 15, 2015 AJ, given you fairly cold-turkeyed off Prozac, it's not surprising you are suffering severe withdrawal syndrome. Your symptom pattern is "normal" for that, see What is withdrawal syndrome? We see people very, very gradually recovering from this over time. It can be so severe as to interfere with work and family life. I am sorry you are going through this. Also see "Is it always going to be like this?" Give up trying to pry agreement or approval from your doctors. Ask them for what you want. See How do you talk to your doctor about withdrawal? If a doctor is not helpful, find a new doctor. For more information on patients' experience with treatments for and recovery from akathisia, see https://akathisiainfo.wordpress.com/ This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted March 15, 2015 Mentor Share Posted March 15, 2015 If you want a referral, be brave, just go into your doc and say exactly what you want, can you take someone for support? If doctor says no, just tell them you'll go to another doctor... Is your doctor a gp? If so, ask how they possibly judge you as being anxious/depressed/return of disorder, whatever...if they are not a specialist? If you feel like you just have to nod your head in agreement, and have no voice, you need a different doctor, anyway. If you feel strong enough to find one. Nice to have a doctor to help, as a backup, but sometimes hard to find. If they are not helping why go to see them. have you tried http://www.citawithdrawal.org.uk I force myself to play silly computer games.... things I have to focus on. That works well for me. IT DOES GET BETTER....... for me it has been about two/three months in my "hell helmet"? but I am seeing tiny improvements. The feeling of absolutely no energy, no spark, lack of motivation, constant apathy, is where I am at the moment. I too am so damn jealous of everyone going about their day, like I am not really in the same "space"... as normal people. I obsess over this drug conspiracy, I get angry,frustrated at what damage has been done to me. I am sure most here have been through that. The fear and horror, has gone...for today anyway. Sometimes I can not go outside, it is horrible wanting to get well faster than I am... I used to pray I would just die, I dont feel like that anymore, so am improving, just a bit. I never been a suicidal person before, ever. You are like me in some ways, we can remember how we were before medication...... we will get there.... My youngest son is now 17, so it is a bit easier. I hope you are well enough to have your family back soon. Perhaps there is help out there, probably through Mental Health or the link above, for some home help. I know I should have sought help previously, but without a helpful doctor, has just been too hard to find support anywhere nearby. Yesterday I actually felt bored, I take that as a good sign. Lets hope if it happens again, I will be able to get off my butt and do something 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Mentor ang Posted March 15, 2015 Mentor Share Posted March 15, 2015 http://www.citawithdrawal.org.uk this seems horifically out of date. The latest articles are from 5 years ago ...... the main person behind the site seems to have passed away 2010, and doesnt look like anyone has updated I would't bother reading the articles... my own opinion of course, but I was very disappointed. 1992 Dothiepin 375mg 8 weeks, exhaustion/depression. Serotonin syndrome, oh yes! seizures . Fell pregnant, 3rd baby, Nitrous Oxide, 3 weeks mental hospital pp psychosis. zoloft tegretol. Feb 1996 ct tegretol, tapered Zoloft 8 weeks. as (unexpectedly) pregnant. Steven died after 3 days.(Zolft HLHS baby). 98 had run in with Paxil, 2 tablets, 3 weeks taper, survived.2005..menopause? exhausted again. Zyprexa, mad in three days, fallout.... Seroquel, Effexor, tegretol, and 8 years of self destruction. Failed taper.Damn 1/4 valium... nuts again! .fallout, zoloft 100mg seroquol 400mg mirtazapine 45 mg tegretol 400mg. Mid 14 3 month taper. Nov 14 CRASH.Mid 15 .... 75mg seroquel, 3 x 1800mg SJW 2 week window end of December followed by 6 week wave5/2 68mg seroquel, 2.5 x 1800mg SJW::::20/2 61mg seroquel, 2.5 x SJW::: 26/2 54mg seroquel, 2 x SJW::::21/3 43mg seroquel, 1 x 2700SJW :::: 23/4 36mg seroquel 1 x 1800 SJW15/5 33mg seroquel, 1 x SJW:::: 28/5 30mg seroquel, 1 x SJW::::; 18/6 25mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::::, 11/7 21mg seroquel 1/2 SJW::, 26/7 18mg seroquel 1/2 SJW:::, 9/8 12mg seroquel :::, 16/8 6mg seroquel ;;;;, 12/9 0 jump. 23/9 3mg....., 27/9 0mg. Reinstated, 6mg, then 12mg............. LIGHTBULB MOMENT, I have MTHFR 2x mutations. CFS and issues with MOULD in my home. So I left home, and working 150km away during week, loving it. Oh was hard, panic attacks first week, gone now, along with the mould issues. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Looking at things now I realise that this all started when I took Effexor for a nearly a year I had terrible side effects and it was so hard to get off, I believed my doctor when he told me that I could not get off it because my body needed it so much and was resisting it leaving. What a idiot! But swopping to fluoxetine helped so much I did not question. At 8 months off reinstating a small amount of prozac is too late I take it ? I did speak to cita and they advised me to try 5HTP but I really don't want to mess with my brain anymore.. The terror I have at the moment is relentless it is like the thought of one more second with it is unbearable. I want to be brave and strong for my child but it tough. I suppose I'm still struggling with the fact that this exists in the world which is naive of me I know. Suicide was looking very attractive to me for the last few months, but I won't do it. I'm a coward and also if I do it will be seen as suicide of a woman who came off medication which was keeping her well and no other explanation will be looked at, so I have no choice but to get well. 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Purplestars22 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hello Arcticjessy, I hope a moderator will answer your question of reinstating. I know what you mean about the terror it could be awful especially when you wake up from it. Just know that this experience is temporary and you will heal and be stronger than ever. After this experience wd will be a distant memory and you will have a great life with your child. I tapered by skipping doses too I don't think I have found anyone else in this forum that tapered that way. One of the things I want to advice new members is to not taper that way and will save them from immense suffering. I wish you strenght and healing. Celexa 20mg 2008-2012 for Social Anxiety Failed attempt to stop reinstated 1 year taper skipping doses Celexa free 12/2013 1/2014-5/2014 took 5 htp every other day Failed Reinstatement 5mg of Celexa on 12/2014 for 5 days only Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 22, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hi AJ , how about you email Prof. Healy and/or Dr Peter Breggin ( breggin@Hotmail.com) in the US , and ask directly? Because you have so much riding on your recovery , you might get a specific recommendation. Can't hurt to ask. See Nathalou's last entry re: seeking advice and clonidine. xxx 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
blackhill4 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Arctic Jessie you sound so similar to me... I have days of urgency, then the dark moods, then excitability the next day ( horrifying for me), I've had akathisia for I think about 4 months and I think it is easing a little (sort of) finally. Every day is a struggle to get through and I'm always surprised to be there the next day to be honest. How long have you had your akathisia? Since you stopped your meds? And is it on and off? or constant? My akathisia has changed a bit but is still there, has yours changed at all? Anyway, I really hope we can both see some good changes soon . Paxil 2007-2012, somnolence for a few months so quit, anxiety gets severe again, put on citalopram (horrible reaction). Used august 2013-September 2013, quit and doctor reinstates paxil (reaction again ) on from sep to dec. Quit cold turkey and suffer problems to this day Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hi blackhill I started with the akathesia around 4-5 months after I stopped meds, it was at it's worse months 7,8 and 9, it has eased some in that I can now sit for longer periods but the sitting does not feeling relaxing like it used to but I can do it. I am still suffering with insomnia, depression and panic, they are all horrible but I think the panic scares me the most it is is truley horrific and not something I have ever experienced before in my life. To be honest I had very few problems on prozac, venlaflaxine was a nightmare but prozac suited me very well I had no idea I was poisoning myself everyday.. How long off your meds did your problems start ? I'm glad it has eased slightly for you x 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
blackhill4 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Jessie my akathisia started at month 12, along with dysphoria's and many other hellish things (almost didn't make it through a lot of days). And paxil used to be my friend too until it decided to make me feel crazy. The first year I had very strange symptoms like euphoria, emotional deadness and loss of social nervousness. I still can easily talk with people now when I used to be very shy. Never again... never. Paxil 2007-2012, somnolence for a few months so quit, anxiety gets severe again, put on citalopram (horrible reaction). Used august 2013-September 2013, quit and doctor reinstates paxil (reaction again ) on from sep to dec. Quit cold turkey and suffer problems to this day Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hey blackhill What was your Doctors thoughts on this 12 months off, mine all looked at me kinda open mouthed when I suggested my drugs were the issue. This is how I described my feelings to my mum recently 99% of the population would not understand what I said but she tried her best. It is like I know there is a second in time about to come and it is going to be the worst second ever, I feel like I can't stand this second to arrive beacause it brings so much horror pain and terror. I know loads of seconds have passed while I say or think this but it is totally irelavant because there is another second about to come and that brings the exact same feelings with it. I know you have felt the same and that makes me feel so sad. I would not wish this on anyone. X 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 So sorry your going through this. I also feel the same I cannot believe that we live in a world where suffering can be inflicted by trusted professionals. I was going to go to local MP, sign petitions but unsure if I'm well enough for that just now or will I do that in recovery. Best wishes to you xxx 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Loveandlight I feel your pain. It is bad enough they were given us but to be not believed when they make they make us is is a real spit in face. I was told to just accept I was mentally ill now that it would be easier for everyone if I stopped fighting the obvious. Do not worry love and light one day it will all come out. Like my old grandma used to say " you can only cover **** up for so long someone always smells it in the end" I truly hope you feel better soon xx 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Thanks Artic Jessy xx 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
blackhill4 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 My psychiatrist laughed arrogantly when I argued with him about the withdrawals, the one at the hospital tried to put me on another antidepressant even though I told him they had just made me sick. " you have the wrong idea about antidepressants" he tells me " you need to be on medication to have a normal life". I told him we will have to disagree on that. Paxil 2007-2012, somnolence for a few months so quit, anxiety gets severe again, put on citalopram (horrible reaction). Used august 2013-September 2013, quit and doctor reinstates paxil (reaction again ) on from sep to dec. Quit cold turkey and suffer problems to this day Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Has anyone done the RXSK consult with Dr David Healy ? Or does anyone know someone who has. It's quite expensive so wondering if to do it or not Thanks 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
LoveandLight Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 You may be able to get referred by doctor.. 2000 - sertraline for job anxiety low confidence (17 years old) ..which turned the next 16 years into nightmare! On/off sertraline severe withdrawals every time. 2014 - felt better as reduced dose of sertraline no more inner restlessness. Doctor rushed off again. Hit severe withdrawal. Lost the little I had in life. Couldn't get stable again on 12.5mg. Was switched to prozac. Had severe reaction to prozac..came off in November 2015 at 6mg as felt more confused and damaged on it..Even more withdrawal ..rage, depression, dyphoria, near constant suicidal ideation, self harm impulses, doom, concrete block in head, unable to do much of anything with this feeling in head..went back on 6mg of sertraline to see if would alleviate anything. It didn't..reduced from December to June 2016 came off at 2.5mg sertraline as was hospitalised for the severe rage, suicidal impulses, and put on 50mg lofepramine which in 2nd week reduced all symptoms but gave insomnia which still have..psych stopped lofepramine cold turkey..no increased withdrawal symptoms new symptoms from lofepramine except persistant insomnia which has as side effect. Taking Ativan for 8 months for the severe rage self harm impulses 1-3 times a week (mostly 2 times a week) at .5mg. Two months (I'm unsure exactly when the interdose started to happen) ago interdose withdrawal seemed to happen..2 days I think after the Ativan. Nightmare that could have been avoided! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 30, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 30, 2015 I thought if you report side effects on RxISK you get a report for your doctor for free. What's the consult AJ ? 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 It's a hours online consult with Dr Healy. Produces a report. Cost $350 so about£200 ish My Dr won't refer me on the NHS x 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Fresh Posted March 30, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just looked ,thank you. It actually says it's a 45 minute consultation with "one of our doctors". I can't see that they'll have anything to tell you that you don't already know or can't find out about on this site. I'd be inclined to get the free report , just to show your doctor. Hugs 1987-1997 pertofran , prothiaden , Prozac 1997-2002 Zoloft 2002-2004 effexor 2004-2010 Lexapro 40mg 2010-2012Cymbalta 120mg Sept. 2012 -decreased 90mg in 6months. Care taken over by Dr Lucire in March 2013 , decreased last 30mg at 2mg per week over 3 months. July 21 , 2013- last dose of Cymbalta Protracted withdrawal syndrome kicked in badly Jan.2014 Unrelenting akathisia until May 2014. Voluntary hosp. admission. Cocktail of Seroquel, Ativan and mirtazapine and I was well enough to go home after 14 days. Stopped all hosp. meds in next few months. July 2014 felt v.depressed - couldn't stop crying. Started pristiq 50mg. Felt improvement within days and continued to improve, so stayed on 50mg for 8 months. Began taper 28 Feb. 2015. Pristiq 50mg down to 45mg. Had one month of w/d symptoms. Started CES therapy in March. No w/d symptoms down to 30mg. October 2015 , taking 25mg Pristiq. Capsules compounded with slow-release additive. March 2016 , 21mg Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hi I'm about to start taking seriphos for the massive am cortisol surges. I was wondering should I start with the normal dose or lower ? On the plus side I recently had 3 days where I felt less agitated still had lots of other symptoms but I'm so grateful for those 3 days. I'm thinking about going back to work part time in the next couple of weeks but not sure I can be consistent and even manage a 4 hour day. As the only adult in the house I feel I must at least try to keep this roof over our heads. Iv taken a risk spending £35 on seriphos but it's got to be worth a try. The financial consequence of withdrawal is tough! 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I read a piece by David healy recently where he suggested summotriptan, he said it often gave almost instant relief of anxiety and dizziness, this was tempory whilst the drug was in the system but often helped people to get relief and the strengh to carry on. Has anyone tried this ? I would like anything positive as I'm in a dark place at the moment. Thank you 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
MollyN Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I've nothing helpful to add to answer your question, but I want to send you the most enormous cuddle and the biggest cheer for making it through this far - you're doing so well, I read your journal from the beginning and there is progress there really is - lots of love xxxxx Drug history 20mg paxil in 2001 - 4 months use 20mg paxil in 2003 - 2 months use 20mg paxil in 2008 - 8 years continuous Withdrawal history: March 2014 - disastrous alternate day taper Jan 2015 - 15mg to 10mg. Disaster Sept 2015 - 10mg to 5mg. Disaster. Reinstated to 6mg. Relief Oct 2015 - started slow 10% taper Oct 2016 - at 4mg- stop taking paxil (not recommended) I'm not a medical professional. Seek advice from a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thank you mollyN that's really kind xx 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
Arcticjessy Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 It's strange because everything I read online says it's causes anxiety, but maybe that's in people without withdrawal and stress syndrome 10 months of venlaflaxine cold turkey. Prozac 20 mg for 13 years, the last 5 years taken every other day. Cold Turkey. Hellish terror. Deep melancholic depression, chronic insomnia, swing between akathesia and chronic fatigue. Vertigo, headaches neck pain and inner tremor. Taking magnesium and vit c. Just bought seriphos not tried yet. Link to comment
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