davidcpp Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Obviously, I meant some opinion about my situation and symptoms. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Kachna Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 David, Kasia here , i sent you here. Please listen to Admin team. They know a lot . We all know you are panicking a little bit but as Alto said , changes you made between june and august are affecting You now. No-one will tell you the answer and where your mistakes were. Now you can say - i should have or could have done differently. Everyone here has a story and slow tapper is the best for most of people . Even if your windows last 3-4 hours, they will expand With these drugs, and especially Lexarpo that made my life miserable togerher with some other pharma wonders, it is not a race. You will experience strange things, and they will go away slowly. Magnesium is good . But be careful with supplements - do not overstimulate your nervous system Sleep as much as you can And these drugs influence your gut. Drink a lot of water. Sept2012-april 2013 - Lexarpo 20mg - taper beginning in Feb till April 2013 Xanax full october 2012 and full February 2013 Lyrica - nov- dec 2012 Withdrawal End of May 2013- August 2013 - st johns wort - taper 6 weeks Withdrawal (mixture cipralex and sjw) Now lorazepam for anxiety- not regular Still in withdrawal - head pressure, nausea - trying to hang in there Sensitive to antidepressant and benzos Link to comment
TerrifyingStiffMad Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 David, is it possible for you to have a blood test to see where you stand with regards to your electrolyte panel? Out of ranges on these electrolytes can have all kinds of symptoms, especially during the withdrawal process. If the result of the electrolytes comes back as normal then it will give provide you reliefs and you do not have to guess whether the magnesium or any other elements are deficient. You can concentrate on fine tuning the tapering to lessen the severe withdrawal symptoms. It is just an elimination process so you can concentrate on what is causing so much problems. Take care David. Dec 2013 to April 2014: 5.00 mg Valium Sep 2014: 2.75 mg Valium Nov 2014: 5.00 mg Valium 300 mg Gabapentin June 26th, 2015: 0.50 mg Valium. 900 mg Gabapentin July 14th, 2015: 0.00 mg Valium. 900 mg Gabapentin July 25th, 2015: 800 mg Gabapentin July 30th, 2015: 500 mg Gabapentin August 15th, 2015. 400 mg Gabapentin August 21st, 2015: 300 mg Gabapentin August 27th, 2015: 200 mg Gabapentin Magnesium, Vitamin-B Complex, Calcium, Vitamin D. Link to comment
TerrifyingStiffMad Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 David, Also stress and anxiety is one of the major factors that will impact your withdrawal symptoms. Half an hour ago I was better than how i feel now as I am typing these words to you. As I research on some of the health problems I have on the net, I become more stressed and I can actually feel some of the withdrawal symptoms coming and running over me like a train. For me, these punishing symptoms arrive so fast, within minutes. So David, please find a way to control your anxiety the best you can. I know it is so easy to say it but very difficult to achieve once we are in the middle of feeling stressed. Please just keep in mind that stress and anxiety can lead to panic attacks that will lead to more severe symptoms. I have experienced them all. We need to realize and understand these factors for what they are and how they impact us during this hellish process. Dec 2013 to April 2014: 5.00 mg Valium Sep 2014: 2.75 mg Valium Nov 2014: 5.00 mg Valium 300 mg Gabapentin June 26th, 2015: 0.50 mg Valium. 900 mg Gabapentin July 14th, 2015: 0.00 mg Valium. 900 mg Gabapentin July 25th, 2015: 800 mg Gabapentin July 30th, 2015: 500 mg Gabapentin August 15th, 2015. 400 mg Gabapentin August 21st, 2015: 300 mg Gabapentin August 27th, 2015: 200 mg Gabapentin Magnesium, Vitamin-B Complex, Calcium, Vitamin D. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 17, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 17, 2015 Welcome, David. If you started taking 2.5mg escitalopram 11 days ago and you are starting to feel better now, that sounds like the dosage is good for you. You will want to stay at this dosage for a while, perhaps months, before tapering again. Then, you probably will want to use a liquid, as explained in Tips for tapering off Lexapro (escitalopram) Please let us know how you are doing. david, it's very difficult to tell what's the best dose for reinstatement. It could be that 2.5mg is too much for you. You might try 2.0mg and see if you feel better on it. Most likely, you will want to make a liquid to take 2.0mg. It can take months for the nervous system to settle down from the big shock of withdrawal, even after reinstating. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Can I still try reduce drug dosage to 2.0mg after taking 2.5 mg during last 3 weeks? If that could be make some change how much time should i wait for my organism reaction on new dosage? I have feeling that i feel sometimes better after at least over a dozen hours or about twenty hours. After my try to withdrawal I feel that taking drug doesn't bring relief as before, but I feel though it worsened my condition in next over a dozen hours after taking drug. I don't feel mechanism of windows and waves during last 9 days. In addition to symptoms which I've noted in my last few posts, I also feel dry mouth. How can I recognize if it is a adverse reaction or withdrawal symptom, and do I sensitive for this drug? If that is a adverse reaction will it go away finally? Should I understand adverse reaction as side effect of this drug? In this topic reinstating too big dose is treat as dead end from which there is no escape. How can I understand it? Will division my daily dosage in two doses be good idea to not feeling some side effects, adverse reaction? I've already make a liquid only from two doses, because there isn't information about stability of escitalopram. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 I thought about that this dose is 2-3 times too much for me. I have 3 weeks worse even than period before, where i was taking 5mg on 6 days after withdrawal try. Please about explanation of my doubts which i've described before. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Kachna Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 David you were taking 5 mg every 6 days Do not divide 5 by 6 As it does not make sense. Theoretically, half life of lexarpo is about 3 days . So you were making a mess in tour system - 3 days with a drug , 3 off and then a kick with 5 mg and the same story again Your dosis needs to be stable every single day. I know you are impatient, me to, everyone would be I am struggling with issues after i quit this drug for more than 2 years. Its better to do it slowly with stable dosis and gradual tappering Listen to admin team here. They know from experience. I can tell you listen to your intuition but in withdrawal it is not easy. Try to distract yourself. It will pass Sept2012-april 2013 - Lexarpo 20mg - taper beginning in Feb till April 2013 Xanax full october 2012 and full February 2013 Lyrica - nov- dec 2012 Withdrawal End of May 2013- August 2013 - st johns wort - taper 6 weeks Withdrawal (mixture cipralex and sjw) Now lorazepam for anxiety- not regular Still in withdrawal - head pressure, nausea - trying to hang in there Sensitive to antidepressant and benzos Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 19, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yes, you can go from 2.5mg to 2.0mg. Perhaps the lower dose will be better for you. If you feel better on 2.0mg, you will still need to give your nervous system time to settle down. This could be months. There are a lot of unknowns about this situation. No one can predict how long it will take for you to recover from your bad reaction. Doctors don't know anything about this. You are asking the same questions everyone asks when they have withdrawal syndrome. Read What is withdrawal syndrome? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Kachna Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 David , listen to Alto. Patience is the key here! Trust yourself Sept2012-april 2013 - Lexarpo 20mg - taper beginning in Feb till April 2013 Xanax full october 2012 and full February 2013 Lyrica - nov- dec 2012 Withdrawal End of May 2013- August 2013 - st johns wort - taper 6 weeks Withdrawal (mixture cipralex and sjw) Now lorazepam for anxiety- not regular Still in withdrawal - head pressure, nausea - trying to hang in there Sensitive to antidepressant and benzos Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 I have to write that yesterday was the first window for 10 days. I feel mentally almost normal, maybe even completly normally. Although still remained physically symptoms like some muscle tension. Today for a 2-3 hours it still was better almost that yesterday, but gradually it went to go down to condition which was in last earlier days. I know that it may suggest windows and waves pattern. As I am reading more and more this topic http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/I am convinced that probably I should take 2-3 times lower dose. I can't stand it. My case doesn't seemed to be difficult and so reinstating shoudln't be long. It seems that my symptoms and deterioration are related to too higher dose. For example, I feel that just maybe 1-2 hours after taking this dose I have problems with sleeping, that have not occurred before choose 2.5mg/day. I'm afraid that I extend the time of my recovery by a months and Probably I would feel better now and in next months. I feel that by one small mistake I go into dead end and I can't change anything . I can't imagine now back to study from October and to normal functioning. Now everything indicates on too high dose. If my dose is actually too high it's possible that it can't prevent stabilization? I haven't decided to take 2mg, because yesterday I felt better. Does this change to 2mg further lengthen time to settle down? I wouldn't want extend my time of recovery. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 20, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 20, 2015 No one can predict how long it might take to recover from withdrawal syndrome. All you can do is listen to your body and make changes very, very gradually. Read The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Can I use this supplement - Vitamin B-Complex http://www.iherb.com/Solgar-B-Complex-50-250-Veggie-Caps/15563? I've still used it during 50 days and my doctor told me to buy again and i don't know. I feel that new symptoms arrived and generally i feel worse. If my dose is too much it means that I went to dead end? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 21, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 21, 2015 See our Symptoms and Self-care forum http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/forum/8-symptoms-and-self-care/for suggestions about how to cope with symptoms, including our discussions of B vitamins. One of the characteristics of withdrawal syndrome is the symptoms keep on changing. You need to learn to surf the waves. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Can i still reduce to 2mg? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've changed my signature because somebody has told me that it could be incomprehensible. Can i still reduce my drug to 2mg? Why now can I change the dose, generally I can't it do before stabilization. I don't understand it. Alto, you've written in Sometimes reinstatement http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/"not only doesn't work but makes symptoms worse" and If, upon reinstatement, you very soon feel worse, most likely you are sensitized to the drug. I feel that i has it. I came too late to this forum :/ I don't know what should i think about it. I'm afraid hat i go to dead end and it will be worse and worse. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 If you feel better on 2.5mg, that might be adequate. You felt better on September 19.How are you feeling now? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 It`s horrible ,this one day was except. Muscles are more uptight, i can`t concentrate at all. it`s worse and worse. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 Please carefully read my posts. My time is limited. Yes, you can go from 2.5mg to 2.0mg. Perhaps the lower dose will be better for you. If you feel better on 2.0mg, you will still need to give your nervous system time to settle down. This could be months. There are a lot of unknowns about this situation. No one can predict how long it will take for you to recover from your bad reaction. Doctors don't know anything about this. You are asking the same questions everyone asks when they have withdrawal syndrome. Read What is withdrawal syndrome? About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I know but i don`t now if is it safe. I read topics and i`m afraid that the dose is 2-3 times too much, it`s worse and worse. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 I've given you my best guess. Other than that, it's up to you. I cannot make decisions for you. Please note that many people get anxious and jump around in dosage. This is a bad idea. See The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Can I reset my dose on the morning? I hear opinion that's more proper approach. If i would want to choose 2.0 mg, stabilization now will last longer than by 2.5mg? What do you think about taking sometimes Hydroxizinum on problems with sleeping? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, you can go from 2.5mg to 2.0mg. Perhaps the lower dose will be better for you. If you feel better on 2.0mg, you will still need to give your nervous system time to settle down. This could be months. There are a lot of unknowns about this situation. No one can predict how long it will take for you to recover from your bad reaction. Doctors don't know anything about this. Also read Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Can I reset my dose on the morning? I hear opinion that's more proper approach. Could you reply on this? Can I don't take today before sleeping and take tomorrow morning and generally start taking on the morning, not on the evening? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 I don't understand your question. If you usually take escilatopram in the morning, take it in the morning. If you usually take it in the evening, take it in the evening. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I take on the evening before sleeping, but I want to start taking on the morning. Apparently it's more proper approach. Maybe I will sleep better. Can I change taking from the evening to morning? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 23, 2015 Please make your own decisions. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I can't stand my worse and numerous symptoms and i'm afraid that these stronger and additional symptoms never leave me. It' s possible that this dose never bring relief, stabilization? I'm afraid about it, because I hadn't better days at all, and worse days are worse over time. I recently visited a psychiatrist and he recommended taking Prefaxine 37.5mg (Venlafaxinum) by 3 months, taking Prefaxine 75mg by 6 months and 3 months withdrawal. Prefaxine would be started instead of Escitalopram. Would it be better than waiting with worse symptoms or could it cause even more mess in my organism . Has anyone some expierence with changing on this drug, or with this drug, its subsequent withdrawal, its influence? All the time i haven't got answer if my fault with dose and my decreasing tendency without waves and windows pattern means that there is no way to recover? I'm afraid that my fault caused that it's no hope for my recovery. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 26, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 26, 2015 david, I'm concerned there may be language problems or you're having difficulty reading the responses to your questions. You're asking the same questions over and over. Please re-read this topic from the beginning. As I said before, many times, you may feel better with a slightly lower dose of escilatopram. Waves and windows are the usual pattern of stabilization. It's not your fault if you have a wave. How long it will take for you to recover cannot predicted -- this is true for everyone. Switching to another drug -- as you can see, it's not something I or anyone who posted in your topic recommended. Quite frequently, it goes wrong. Venlafaxine is a drug that is activating -- causing anxiety, sleeplessness, nervousness, etc. Whether or not it will help you, no one can say. If taking another drug was the solution for withdrawal syndrome, we would be happy to tell people that and close up the site. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't know what should am I doing with my drug - Escitalopram, It is so slightly soluble in water and I really don't know if, even after mixing, I draw right dose. I've still taken 2mg two days, and I don't know what shoud I do. Cutting pills with a pill cutter is also inaccurate, it seems that doses may differ from each other by at least few percent. Although it seems more accurate than dissolution and mixing in water. May I still back to previous 2.5mg dose after two days? I'm not sure about accuracy and maybe I should wait for Lexapro in liquid which maybe I get by some of users of this forum. Alto, you wrote that I am asking the same questions over and over, but I can't find anywhere reply on the following issue. It is certain that my dose is too much and I didn't react timely to reduce it significantly. I ask in general, does this reaction associated with hypersensitive on drugs will go away? I don't ask about time to this reaction go away, I know it's impossible to reply on it. Will my adverse reaction will last as long as I will get drug in similar dosage or go away? I'm afraid about my dosage because this dosage has caused that I can't normally functioning and on the site is wriitten that to large dose could cause adverse reaction, and I missed that. I've had waves and windows when I've been taking every 6 days after withdrawal, but now is worse and worse after starting 2.5mg dose, it suggest that it's to high dose and I feel that I haven't escape from my situation. Now I have strong symptoms that haven't occured earlier or they were weaker. I know that I made huge fault with dosage. Everything indicates on hypersensitive on the drug. I know that you've written about 2mg dose, but it seems that it should be likely about 0.5-1mg. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Nomoreheadmeds Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 'davidcpp' try mixing it with full fat milk it might dissolve better Sertraline 100mg amytrip 60mg diazepam 4mg (and when needed) since late 90's.Reduced all meds over 6 wks (too short) last doses 13 wks ago.Still having withdrawals.I would have done it differently 5th august 2015 reinstated 5mg amytripiline.increased to 10mg amtrip 9th sept 2015. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 This solution isn't possible in my case - I'm allergic to milk, and I have special diet. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 I can add that today after these 2 doses of 2mg started to occurr dizziness. 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 29, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 29, 2015 People do recover from withdrawal syndrome, David. As I've written many times, it takes at least 4 days for your body to register a dosage change. After 2 days, it is still getting used to a lower dosage. Are you a person who tends to worry a great deal about everything? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
davidcpp Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 I know that people recover from withdrawal syndrome, but I stressed that I meant hypersensitivity symptoms. On the site is stressed that in this case it is necessary do reduce or stop taking. I'm worried because of extending and reinforcement my symptoms which caused that anything around it happened to me indifferent and uninteresting. Additionally this drug was complete mistake for me and until today I don't know why I started to take it. Simply I don't see anywhere cases of so wrong reinstatement as in my case and I don't have answers on perspective of my case. Generally, I probably will have to come back to 2.5mg because of inaccuracy dissolution in water. Cutting pills with a pill cutter is also inaccuracy because of ellipsoidal shape of pill, I don't know what to do with this issue. Maybe problem is that i use only amount of a pill for two doses. How long can i store at least liquid with Escitalopram in a transparent package in a fridge ? 3/21/2014 - Escitalopram Actavis 5mg (half of a pill) every day. 6/1/2014 - Escitalopram 10mg 2/1/2015 - Escitalopram 5mg 3/1/2015 Escitalopram 5mg /every 2 days, every 3 days... up to every 6 days 6/30/2015 trying to withdraw totally - I kept waiting until the eleventh day but withdrawal was too strong so reinstated 7/2/2015 Escitalopram 5mg / every 6 days 8/27/2015 - Increasing to Escitalopram 2.5mg / per day - a lot of withdrawal symptoms , not sure what to do .... 2015: 12/30 - 2.2mg; 2016: 2/2 - 1.9mg 4/9 - 1.7mg 5/10 - 1.55mg 6/11 - 1.4mg 7/3 - 1.25mg 7/24 - 1.1mg 8/16 - 1.0mg 9/7 - 0.9mg 2017: 1/24 - 0.8mg 2/14 - 0.7mg 3/4 - 0.64mg 3/19 - 0.58mg 3/30 - 0.53mg 4/16 - 0.48mg 4/29 - 0.43mg 5/26 - 0.37mg 7/1 - 0.32mg 8/6 - 0.26mg 27/08 - 0.21mg 2018: 2/16 - 0.186mg; (change to liquid) 3/19 - 0.145mg 4/3 - 0.13mg 4/22 - 0.12mg, lower doses afeter, 09/15 - try to witdraw completelly, but feel that i must reinstate - up to about 1.9mg to 2020/09 but the dose whole time was wrong because I store drug in refrigarator during most of the time - that was big mistake. Next mistake was to reinstate 1.9 mg instead of start from lower doses because doses from drug stored in refrigarator were disturbed. After 3 weeks i find out that i must go down and go down to 2021/06. 2021/06 Going down from 1mg to 0.4 in 2 weeks when I feel that that dose became to high. I started to feeling better then at about 0.4mg after, I started feeling that drug too high dose symptoms starting to let go in few days. 2021/06/05 - next mistake - I take 2 days levocetirizine for allergy, after 2 days crash, symptoms like on too high doses. 2021/06/07 - 2021/06/16 - 0.4mg - 0.1mg 2021/06/17 - 2021/06/20 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.1 - 0.6mg, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/06/21 - 2021/06/28 - 0.6mg - 0.12mg 2021/06/29 - 2021/06/30 - I feel that i could reinstate - 0.13 - 0.3, but after 2 days again too high dose 2021/07/01 -2021/07/14 - 0.3 - 0.12mg 2021/07/15 - 2021/07/19 - 0.12 - 0.01mg - still I feel too high dose effects, some withdrawal symptoms like dizziness, but they let go and more and more too high dose effects, therfore I go down with dose Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 29, 2015 Administrator Share Posted September 29, 2015 Nobody can look into the future and predict what you personally need to do for the best results. Generally, these do-it-yourself liquids are good refrigerated for a week or so. Look around and ask questions of other people tapering Lexapro. We have many people here doing it. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
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