Schmeg82 Paxil withdrawal and taper after 21 years

[Schmeg82]

1 minute ago, LostInCanada said:

Most people on here use the Gem 20 jewelry scale on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Weigh-GEM20-Precision-Milligram/dp/B00ESHDGOI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1CFSM2IOG6HHZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qR248DJ2hsRVplK3FXJ_dyxTqD1xccCUXqDbaR9ADP7_pkzvSbVyGSfyRpErvgUIDYnXFqZKVMzaTC_jbgZhL0gcRfbTcya-7yixMtWTcFVeCMVONK2GiKfY_4zsHw6FOQqwBHgA6eqjFJ5zlbiYX6Q5RbQkFSl6Qk6kYbe_fdgJ4UnVGnSvGluEmLQGgq9Q5qe5lcGo21B_IOeehCkdbA.VMngMlsjvY2XihFrasrkvDtfGGWYV35c_bjf9Wbz2zQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=gem+20+milligram+scale&qid=1723151444&sprefix=gem+2%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-3

 

Perfect thank you SO much for all your help! I hope your day has gotten lighter for you and your evening goes well!  🙏🏼💕

[LostInCanada]

11 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

 If the pill has a coating on it is that why you use the pill cutter? And shave the center bits out?

I use a pill cutter because for my pills to be covered by insurance, they will only pay for 20 mg size. I use the pill cutter to cut the pill into 4 pieces and then shave them to the needed weight.

I always recommend weighing 10 pills together and dividing the weight by 10. That will give you the weight to always work from as the pills vary a bit in weight. 

So whatever that weight is, that will be equivalent to 10 mg.

My 20 mg pill weighs 236.8 mg or 0.236 g on the scale. Therefore 10 mg is 118 mg, etc. My manufacturer is Apotex in Canada.

Who is your manufacturer? 

[Willy]

Glad to see you’re gearing up for the taper. Hoping for the best!

 

How was your day today?

[Schmeg82]

19 hours ago, Willy said:

Glad to see you’re gearing up for the taper. Hoping for the best!

 

How was your day today?

Hey Willy, thanks for checking on me.  I haven’t been feeling the greatest unfortunately, last night was really rough, I have just tried to stay offline and relax as much as I can reading and watching TV.  I hope you’re doing okay!

[Willy]

Hope you had a better day today!

 

 

[Schmeg82]

It’s Monday and I’m struggling.  I have the wobbly newborn baby deer legs again, I haven’t had them for a while but I am noticing a pattern revolved around my hormonal cycle where I get like this after.  My iron levels are low so not sure if that’s playing a roll, I have a bloodwork appointment the 21st to recheck my deficiencies and make sure they haven’t plummeted anymore.  I’ve been reading how SSRI’s and withdrawal can deplete your vitamins, and I do have absorption issues so I have to be extra careful.  I really don’t want an iron infusion during all of this.  
 

I have full body tremors again today, they’re not horrible but I feel them, it usually turns into akathisia in the evening with anxiety/terror.  Saturday evening was such a relief as I had none and felt well all evening.  The akathisia has been more often lately not sure why.  I was shaky even during my sleep last night and a few nights last week, just very restless.  
 

I'm dizzy today, I tried to walk the 10 acres I made it about 7 and my legs began to wobble bad.  It was hot and I had just cleaned the whole barn too but normally I’m still okay.  Today I was not, I was in a little bit of a panic that I would not make it back to my barn and someone would find me in the horses pasture, so I won’t push myself next time I feel like this.  
 

my mind is so ready to go out and do fun things again but my body is telling me no.  It’s a constant fight and makes me depressed.  I hope for some better days soon when my hormones relax a bit.  
 

no vision changes either, still bad.

[Willy]

@Schmeg82 I’m sorry you’re not doing good. Probably just I bump in the road and you’ll be better shortly.

[Xcaretuk]

5 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

It’s Monday and I’m struggling.  I have the wobbly newborn baby deer legs again, I haven’t had them for a while but I am noticing a pattern revolved around my hormonal cycle where I get like this after.  My iron levels are low so not sure if that’s playing a roll, I have a bloodwork appointment the 21st to recheck my deficiencies and make sure they haven’t plummeted anymore.  I’ve been reading how SSRI’s and withdrawal can deplete your vitamins, and I do have absorption issues so I have to be extra careful.  I really don’t want an iron infusion during all of this.  
 

I have full body tremors again today, they’re not horrible but I feel them, it usually turns into akathisia in the evening with anxiety/terror.  Saturday evening was such a relief as I had none and felt well all evening.  The akathisia has been more often lately not sure why.  I was shaky even during my sleep last night and a few nights last week, just very restless.  
 

I'm dizzy today, I tried to walk the 10 acres I made it about 7 and my legs began to wobble bad.  It was hot and I had just cleaned the whole barn too but normally I’m still okay.  Today I was not, I was in a little bit of a panic that I would not make it back to my barn and someone would find me in the horses pasture, so I won’t push myself next time I feel like this.  
 

my mind is so ready to go out and do fun things again but my body is telling me no.  It’s a constant fight and makes me depressed.  I hope for some better days soon when my hormones relax a bit.  
 

no vision changes either, still bad.

Hang in there lovely. Sending healing vibes xx

[Catwoman73]

So sorry to hear, @Schmeg82.  I have flares that revolve around my cycles too.  Only difference is that in perimenopause, my cycles are, on average, 100 days long lol, so I have to deal with it a bit less often.  Take it easy- it sounds like you pushed yourself a bit too hard.  Live and learn, right?  I'm very glad you're safe, and I hope you are taking good care of yourself now!

[Schmeg82]

18 minutes ago, Catwoman73 said:

So sorry to hear, @Schmeg82.  I have flares that revolve around my cycles too.  Only difference is that in perimenopause, my cycles are, on average, 100 days long lol, so I have to deal with it a bit less often.  Take it easy- it sounds like you pushed yourself a bit too hard.  Live and learn, right?  I'm very glad you're safe, and I hope you are taking good care of yourself now!

Thank you! I’m not sure yet if I’m in peri, or if this is WD but mine are not nearly as heavy as they used to be, which is super strange.  This one was very very light, but most symptomatic for me.  Weird huh.  I’ll be 42 next month so I’m sure things will start changing soon, who knows.  
 

I’ve been shaky all day/tremors and bouts of anxiety (akathisia) I did manage a nap earlier and it’s only 7pm and I’m ready for bed again.  I’ve been reading most of the day trying to relax.  I’m very anxious and overstimulated today but able to read so that makes me happy.  I’ve had a few dizzy spells too.  I hope tomorrow is better. Take care

[Schmeg82]

1 hour ago, Xcaretuk said:

Hang in there lovely. Sending healing vibes xx

Thank you.  This is so so hard, but I’m fighting just as hard. 💕 hope you’re doing okay 

[LostInCanada]

🙏❤️🙏 sending 🪟🪟🪟

We both need them soon

 

[Schmeg82]

I don’t get this.  I’m back to being almost as bad as I was in the beginning.  Horrible morning anxiety, electricity going through my legs and feet, restless, wobbly, off balance and dizzy.  Laid in bed and just cried, another day of this torture.  I don’t know how I can keep on like this.  I’m sad all the holidays are coming up and I probably won’t be able to enjoy them.  

[LostInCanada]

@Schmeg82 sorry you are struggling. Don't look to far ahead. Try to accept it for what it is. Just a moment in time. It will get better. Sometimes a good cry is well deserved because this definitely sucks. ❤️🙏

[Willy]

2 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

I don’t get this.  I’m back to being almost as bad as I was in the beginning.  Horrible morning anxiety, electricity going through my legs and feet, restless, wobbly, off balance and dizzy.  Laid in bed and just cried, another day of this torture.  I don’t know how I can keep on like this.  I’m sad all the holidays are coming up and I probably won’t be able to enjoy them.  

I’m sorry you’re suffering. I share your pain. I’ve been bed/couch bound for weeks. Don’t know how long I can take it either. 
 

Just try to get through today. You’ll be better soon!

[Catwoman73]

So sorry @Schmeg82- I was feeling the same way for pretty much the entire month of July.  And then last Friday, it just started to lift, like magic!  That's the thing about waves- they always end.  If you're keeping a journal, have you been able to identify a potential trigger?  Or triggers?  Triggers aren't always present, but I try to use these waves as a learning opportunity about what NOT to do in the future. 

 

Cry all you need to... it's cathartic.  Give this a try- I find yoga Nidra extremely helpful when I'm in bad shape.

 

 

[Schmeg82]

2 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

@Schmeg82 sorry you are struggling. Don't look to far ahead. Try to accept it for what it is. Just a moment in time. It will get better. Sometimes a good cry is well deserved because this definitely sucks. ❤️🙏

It does suck, having the better days gives me so much hope then I’m back to this again and now worse then I’ve ever been, just feel hopeless.  I’m trying so hard to take care of myself and hang in there.

[Schmeg82]

1 hour ago, Catwoman73 said:

So sorry @Schmeg82- I was feeling the same way for pretty much the entire month of July.  And then last Friday, it just started to lift, like magic!  That's the thing about waves- they always end.  If you're keeping a journal, have you been able to identify a potential trigger?  Or triggers?  Triggers aren't always present, but I try to use these waves as a learning opportunity about what NOT to do in the future. 

 

Cry all you need to... it's cathartic.  Give this a try- I find yoga Nidra extremely helpful when I'm in bad shape.

 

 

Thank you.  I’ll give it a watch.  I can’t honestly find possible triggers other then if I go to long without eating I get much shakier like my blood sugars dropped.  It’s so up and down.  I’m finding after my cycles I have bad symptoms also.  I do keep a journal every day I write out my whole day, from food to activities to symptoms.  I go back and read to see if there’s patterns and besides my cycles there’s really not right now.  The akathisia has gotten bad again and it went away for a few weeks, but it came back with a vengeance.  I’m so worried when I start my taper my symptoms will get worse also.  

[Schmeg82]

1 hour ago, Willy said:

I’m sorry you’re suffering. I share your pain. I’ve been bed/couch bound for weeks. Don’t know how long I can take it either. 
 

Just try to get through today. You’ll be better soon!

I’m sorry, it’s so tough isn’t it.  So hard to stay positive and hopefully on days like this.

[Catwoman73]

1 minute ago, Schmeg82 said:

Thank you.  I’ll give it a watch.  I can’t honestly find possible triggers other then if I go to long without eating I get much shakier like my blood sugars dropped.  It’s so up and down.  I’m finding after my cycles I have bad symptoms also.  I do keep a journal every day I write out my whole day, from food to activities to symptoms.  I go back and read to see if there’s patterns and besides my cycles there’s really not right now.  The akathisia has gotten bad again and it went away for a few weeks, but it came back with a vengeance.  I’m so worried when I start my taper my symptoms will get worse also.  

 

I certainly wouldn't start a taper until you've levelled back out again.  There's no hurry, as you know.  I know you had set your mind on September, but there's nothing wrong with holding for longer.  Disappointing, I know, but waiting til you're more stable is always best.  

 

If you're concerned about how you'll react to tapering, I would give the brassmonkey slide some thought.  I'm doing this currently- 5% per 6 week period- drop 1.25% per week for four weeks, then hold for an additional two weeks.  My symptoms are way less intense with this schedule.  And of course, you can always hold longer after the smaller drops if you need to as well.  I still think there's a chance you'll actually get better as you taper... stay hopeful! 

[Sebas]

19 hours ago, Catwoman73 said:

 

I certainly wouldn't start a taper until you've levelled back out again.  There's no hurry, as you know.  I know you had set your mind on September, but there's nothing wrong with holding for longer.  Disappointing, I know, but waiting til you're more stable is always best.  

 

I agree. Very annoying that your hormone cycle is interacting with wd. Before/during cycle neurotransmitter processes are involved. Serotonine and dopamine levels fluctuate. Your CNS becomes disrupted from these changes. 

 

I think you will have to plan your future taper and holds around cycle. 

 

For now take at least 1 or 2 weeks extra hold after cycle for CNS to restabilize. Then re-assess.

 

Good thing you are making notes so you can analyse timeframe after.

 

Bye Sebas 

[Schmeg82]

Has anyone had tanks in their blood pressure through this? Lately I’ve my BP has been tanking and I’ve been getting palpitations bad.  I was always 130/80 ish before and now I’m 90/60, this am I was 100/58 and I was dizzy and wobbly.  I’m in the heat cleaning the barn but I’m drinking a ton of water too.  I do have Gatorade zeros and body armors as well as some electrolytes but I forgot them this am.  Is this something I should be concerned about? I have a doctors appointment next week.  @LostInCanada @Catwoman73 

[Ariel]

Hi @Schmeg82

I know you didn't tag me, hope you don't mind my chiming in. I can relate to what you describe.

I've found it indispensable throughout this process (WD/PAWS) to actively replenish electrolytes. 

 

My rudimentary understanding is that the hormonal (neurotransmitter) issues we deal with impact the body's ability to regulate fluid/salt levels. @FeralCatman has written about this in detail in his thread if you're curious about nuts and bolts theory. 

 

This can of course be exacerbated under conditions of significant physical exertion, heat -> varying levels of hydration. It's possible to drink too much water or too little, both of those polarities could affect blood pressure and cause feelings of dizziness and wobbliness. (There can of course be other causes of BP fluctuations and dizziness, unsteadiness, etc.; I'm only addressing the electrolyte aspect here, based solely on my personal experience.)

 

In my case, I find that a ½ tsp unrefined sea salt in a glass of water works wonders. I also make sure to adequately salt my food. I don't spend money on fancy packaged electrolyte formulas. Unrefined sea salt has all the minerals I need. It's become routine for me to drink ½ tsp sea salt in water a few times a day, spaced regularly. Does wonders. 

 

A few times I accidentally drank excess salt water (too concentrated) and it flushed my system right out (loose stool). No big deal, it was over with in a single session, and then I knew to pull back on the salt moving forward. 

 

I don't know that this has any bearing on what you're dealing with; as I said, it's not necessarily the same thing. Just sharing in case it's useful. The good thing about adding ½ tsp unrefined sea salt to one's water is that it's inexpensive and easily accessible to try, should one choose to conduct such an experiment. 

 

Healing vibes <3

Ariel

[LostInCanada]

@Schmeg82 Quote from the Mayo Clinic. 

Does Paxil affect sodium levels?

Paroxetine may cause some people to become drowsy or have blurred vision. Make sure you know how you react to this medicine before you drive, use machines, or do anything else that could be dangerous if you are not alert or able to see clearly. Hyponatremia (low sodium in the blood) may occur with this medicine.

https://www.mayoclinic.org › drg-...

Paroxetine (Oral Route) Precautions - Mayo Clinic

 

Definitely be very careful when sweating alot. Drinking too much water can be problematic. Apparently milk is one of the best hydrators. Sodium is important.

Google also has many recipes for rehydration drinks. 

 

 

 

[Schmeg82]

1 hour ago, Ariel said:

Hi @Schmeg82

I know you didn't tag me, hope you don't mind my chiming in. I can relate to what you describe.

I've found it indispensable throughout this process (WD/PAWS) to actively replenish electrolytes. 

 

My rudimentary understanding is that the hormonal (neurotransmitter) issues we deal with impact the body's ability to regulate fluid/salt levels. @FeralCatman has written about this in detail in his thread if you're curious about nuts and bolts theory. 

 

This can of course be exacerbated under conditions of significant physical exertion, heat -> varying levels of hydration. It's possible to drink too much water or too little, both of those polarities could affect blood pressure and cause feelings of dizziness and wobbliness. (There can of course be other causes of BP fluctuations and dizziness, unsteadiness, etc.; I'm only addressing the electrolyte aspect here, based solely on my personal experience.)

 

In my case, I find that a ½ tsp unrefined sea salt in a glass of water works wonders. I also make sure to adequately salt my food. I don't spend money on fancy packaged electrolyte formulas. Unrefined sea salt has all the minerals I need. It's become routine for me to drink ½ tsp sea salt in water a few times a day, spaced regularly. Does wonders. 

 

A few times I accidentally drank excess salt water (too concentrated) and it flushed my system right out (loose stool). No big deal, it was over with in a single session, and then I knew to pull back on the salt moving forward. 

 

I don't know that this has any bearing on what you're dealing with; as I said, it's not necessarily the same thing. Just sharing in case it's useful. The good thing about adding ½ tsp unrefined sea salt to one's water is that it's inexpensive and easily accessible to try, should one choose to conduct such an experiment. 

 

Healing vibes ❤️

Ariel

I never mind anyone chiming in to help! Thank you so much!  I do have pink Himalayan sea salt and I will put some in my waters from now on! it is incredibly hot down here right now more so humid which makes me sweat and I don’t know if the withdraw or the medicine is making me sweat this much but I’m always drenched so I know I’m losing electrolytes fast.  
 

I did end up using one of my electrolyte powders called “ULTIMA” I get them on Amazon, they have a lot of magnesium and potassium in them also and I checked my BP again an hour later and it did increase.  

[Schmeg82]

37 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

@Schmeg82 Quote from the Mayo Clinic. 

Does Paxil affect sodium levels?

Paroxetine may cause some people to become drowsy or have blurred vision. Make sure you know how you react to this medicine before you drive, use machines, or do anything else that could be dangerous if you are not alert or able to see clearly. Hyponatremia (low sodium in the blood) may occur with this medicine.

https://www.mayoclinic.org › drg-...

Paroxetine (Oral Route) Precautions - Mayo Clinic

 

Definitely be very careful when sweating alot. Drinking too much water can be problematic. Apparently milk is one of the best hydrators. Sodium is important.

Google also has many recipes for rehydration drinks. 

 

 

 

Interesting, I’ll have to check my last sodium levels on my bloodwork!  Thank you! 

[Catwoman73]

My blood pressure has been all over the place over my years of taking antidepressants, but since long covid, I tend to be on the lower side- around 100/53ish.  And I dump down to 64/38 when I have my weird episodes where my HR drops randomly and inappropriately.  So I have no idea what my BP has done since I've been tapering lol... I've been a giant mess for the last two years for different reasons!

 

I have been instructed by my doctor to increase both my salt and my fluid intake, so that's what I've been doing.  I prefer to avoid things like gatorade because I don't react well to the additional stuff they put in it.  I prefer to make my own rehydration solutions.  There's lots of recipes out there... I'm not much of a recipe gal myself- I prefer to improvise in the kitchen lol- I just add a tiny amount of salt and about 1/4tsp of maple syrup to every glass of water. 

 

I also wear compression socks when I'm having really bad pre syncope episodes.  They are horribly uncomfortable and hot, so not ideal for wearing during outdoor work in the summer time, but they do make a difference.  In July when I was in such a terrible crash, I wore them when I was inside in the air conditioning. 

[Schmeg82]

30 minutes ago, Catwoman73 said:

My blood pressure has been all over the place over my years of taking antidepressants, but since long covid, I tend to be on the lower side- around 100/53ish.  And I dump down to 64/38 when I have my weird episodes where my HR drops randomly and inappropriately.  So I have no idea what my BP has done since I've been tapering lol... I've been a giant mess for the last two years for different reasons!

 

I have been instructed by my doctor to increase both my salt and my fluid intake, so that's what I've been doing.  I prefer to avoid things like gatorade because I don't react well to the additional stuff they put in it.  I prefer to make my own rehydration solutions.  There's lots of recipes out there... I'm not much of a recipe gal myself- I prefer to improvise in the kitchen lol- I just add a tiny amount of salt and about 1/4tsp of maple syrup to every glass of water. 

 

I also wear compression socks when I'm having really bad pre syncope episodes.  They are horribly uncomfortable and hot, so not ideal for wearing during outdoor work in the summer time, but they do make a difference.  In July when I was in such a terrible crash, I wore them when I was inside in the air conditioning. 

So funny thing, when you talk about long covid it always makes me wonder too because my withdrawal symptoms started less then a month after I got Covid on Christmas (figures right) but it just happened I was simultaneously doing my to fast taper at the same time, then January comes around, I recover from Covid but then boom withdrawals start, just minute symptoms at first, February was when the worst of my symptoms hit.  So my poor body took the brunt of having Covid and going straight into withdrawal too.  
 

now it’s 7.5 months later and I’m feeling the worst I’ve felt since this all started.  I honestly wish I had never reinstated to 10mg because now I feel like I have so much longer to go with these awful symptoms.  I ordered my scale but haven’t started my taper yet, I’m wondering if some of this is also side effects now from reinstating the drug that’s not working.  
 

today I’m weak and can’t even talk to people without feeling breathless and over stimulated.  And with my low HR and BP my mind goes straight to a cardiac issue even though it’s probably not.  
 

I'm hoping as I taper under some relief and not worse.  
 

oh and @Catwoman73 I used to have to wear the compression socks because when I was heavier on my full dose of Paxil my ankles constantly swelled, to much salt then, and now not enough! Plus I’ve lost close to 30lbs since coming down on the dose.

[Catwoman73]

That's interesting- there are many overlapping symptoms between withdrawal and long covid.  Under the circumstances, it's hard to say if you don't have some component of long covid contributing to your symptoms.  So many of the symptoms overlap!  Certainly the episodes of severe weakness, shakiness, labile blood pressure and heart rate, breathlessness are all part of it.  Several people have even complained of vision changes, though I'm not sure if the changes are similar to what you are experiencing.  If your body was under stress from the fast taper, that would make you susceptible to long covid.  I was SEVERELY burned out from work when I contracted covid.  I firmly believe that stress of any sort is a major contributing factor. 

 

My husband and daughter both had covid over Christmas as well- in 2022. My husband tested positive on Christmas Day, and my daughter on New Years Eve.  It was my husband's first infection and my daughter's second.  I actually enjoyed how quiet the Christmas season was that year lol, since I was struggling with long covid.  All the visiting is exhausting!  Then they both got the flu just in time for my 50th birthday a month later.  My family totally knows how to ruin holidays!!!🤣

[Schmeg82]

6 minutes ago, Catwoman73 said:

That's interesting- there are many overlapping symptoms between withdrawal and long covid.  Under the circumstances, it's hard to say if you don't have some component of long covid contributing to your symptoms.  So many of the symptoms overlap!  Certainly the episodes of severe weakness, shakiness, labile blood pressure and heart rate, breathlessness are all part of it.  Several people have even complained of vision changes, though I'm not sure if the changes are similar to what you are experiencing.  If your body was under stress from the fast taper, that would make you susceptible to long covid.  I was SEVERELY burned out from work when I contracted covid.  I firmly believe that stress of any sort is a major contributing factor. 

 

My husband and daughter both had covid over Christmas as well- in 2022. My husband tested positive on Christmas Day, and my daughter on New Years Eve.  It was my husband's first infection and my daughter's second.  I actually enjoyed how quiet the Christmas season was that year lol, since I was struggling with long covid.  All the visiting is exhausting!  Then they both got the flu just in time for my 50th birthday a month later.  My family totally knows how to ruin holidays!!!🤣

Yes Christmas was definitely a quiet one for us also! My mom brought us a ham, thankfully I still had my taste and appetite.  I mainly just had a bad cold with a 99.9 temp for 4 days.  My husband recovered faster than me of course, as he always does.  My vision issues started exactly a month after I recovered from Covid, the Vision and nausea were first to hit me Feb 2nd.  Then the body twitches, exercise intolerance and HR issues started a couple weeks later or so.  From then all hell broke loose.  So who’s to say Covid hadn’t played a roll, who knows.  All I know is I’m not getting any better and these waves are lashing longer and longer, that’s why I think it’s my medicine possibly hurting me more now also.  But who knows, I was on Paxil 21 years so it could still just be withdrawal from the fast taper.  It’s all a crap shoot and I’m ready for some relief 😭 

 

im sorry you had ruined holidays as well, my birthday is next month, I would like to just skip it because I know I won’t be celebrating.  

[ShantyO7]

1 hour ago, Schmeg82 said:

pink Himalayan sea salt

I would be careful with pink Himalayan sea salt. From research I have done on it in the past, a lot of it is sources out of mines in China where their regulations aren't very strict and can often have contaminants. I personally would use Celtic sea salt. Just my opinion though 🙂 Also, Ariel is right about the salt. Our bodies can't absorb the plain water properly to truly hydrate us the way we need. The salt helps the water make it to the cells which helps actually hydrate the body properly. I've done a bit of research on this for a diet I was doing before WD!

[Schmeg82]

Struggling bad this morning.  Had horrible nightmares, woke up shaky/tremors and electric feelings in my legs and feet.  Tight chest and throat.  I just want this to end.  I feel like I’m getting worse again.  

[Willy]

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Struggling bad this morning.  Had horrible nightmares, woke up shaky/tremors and electric feelings in my legs and feet.  Tight chest and throat.  I just want this to end.  I feel like I’m getting worse again.  

I’m sorry for your pain. This entire experience is so unpredictable. Just take it easy today and try to relax as best you can. You’ll snap out of this soon and feel better.

[Warpman]

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Struggling bad this morning.  Had horrible nightmares, woke up shaky/tremors and electric feelings in my legs and feet.  Tight chest and throat.  I just want this to end.  I feel like I’m getting worse again.  

 

 

Hello @Schmeg82, I read your topic and saw that it went down to 5 and then returned to 10 until it stabilized.

 

You are experiencing a terrible  wave. It's the nervous system trying to help itself. Maybe the increase to 10 has destabilized you.

 

I'm not an expert, doctor or even a moderator, but I believe that, once antidepressants start to show unbearable side effects, it's a sign that your body no longer accepts them. Therefore, I think you are also experiencing these symptoms as a side effect of Paxhell.

 

Do you think you are better off with 10mg than 5mg?

[Schmeg82]

2 minutes ago, Warpman said:

 

 

Hello @Schmeg82, I read your topic and saw that it went down to 5 and then returned to 10 until it stabilized.

 

You are experiencing a terrible  wave. It's the nervous system trying to help itself. Maybe the increase to 10 has destabilized you.

 

I'm not an expert, doctor or even a moderator, but I believe that, once antidepressants start to show unbearable side effects, it's a sign that your body no longer accepts them. Therefore, I think you are also experiencing these symptoms as a side effect of Paxhell.

 

Do you think you are better off with 10mg than 5mg?

I went back to 10mg almost 6 months ago.  I plan on starting to taper here shortly as well.  Jumping to 5 at this point would probably further destabilize me

[Warpman]

9 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

I went back to 10mg almost 6 months ago.  I plan on starting to taper here shortly as well.  Jumping to 5 at this point would probably further destabilize me

 

@Schmeg82, I agree 100%. Changing suddenly will only make everything worse.

 

But were your symptoms worse with 10mg or 5mg?