Schmeg82 Paxil withdrawal and taper after 21 years

[Catwoman73]

5 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Struggling bad this morning.  Had horrible nightmares, woke up shaky/tremors and electric feelings in my legs and feet.  Tight chest and throat.  I just want this to end.  I feel like I’m getting worse again.  

 

Sounds like a very bad wave, Schmeg... I'm so sorry.  It really can be very disheartening to be back in this state after seeing some improvements.  Just keep in mind that windows and waves are a good sign, even if the waves feel like being plunged back into the depths of hell.  All waves end- yours will too.  Sending love and hugs! ❤️

[AAOffZ]

@Schmeg82 I just wanted to echo what @Ariel said about hydration. It’s absolutely vital. And plain water literally goes right through you. I don’t measure, I just shake some sea salt into my water cup. 
 

I avoid things like liquid IV and Powerade etc because of the added crap, sugar and vitamins. It’s definitely destabilizes me. I have felt very off from several fortified things, especially those high in cheap iron sources (cereal, etc). 
 

Have you tried watching those additives at all. Personally, I avoid nitrates and nitrites, anything fortified, and supplements. I eat lots of minimally processed meats and cooked veggies. It don’t hold super strict to this, (you better believe I have dessert 🤣) but I do believe avoiding some of the above helps me stay stable. 
 

edit: oh and I also want you to know I’ve been thinking about you and your pending taper. And praying for you right now. 

[Schmeg82]

11 hours ago, AAOffZ said:

@Schmeg82 I just wanted to echo what @Ariel said about hydration. It’s absolutely vital. And plain water literally goes right through you. I don’t measure, I just shake some sea salt into my water cup. 
 

I avoid things like liquid IV and Powerade etc because of the added crap, sugar and vitamins. It’s definitely destabilizes me. I have felt very off from several fortified things, especially those high in cheap iron sources (cereal, etc). 
 

Have you tried watching those additives at all. Personally, I avoid nitrates and nitrites, anything fortified, and supplements. I eat lots of minimally processed meats and cooked veggies. It don’t hold super strict to this, (you better believe I have dessert 🤣) but I do believe avoiding some of the above helps me stay stable. 
 

edit: oh and I also want you to know I’ve been thinking about you and your pending taper. And praying for you right now. 

I drink the body armor lytes and don’t seem to have any issues with them, but I’ve been using my all natural electrolytes the most lately.  I like them because they have a good amount of magnesium in them also.  I only drink Gatorade zero if it’s the only thing we have in the fridge.  Usually it’s just water for me, occasionally a ginger ale (I buy the mini cans) but lately just water for me.  I’ve been following a pretty clean diet but yes every now and then I splurge on something sweet, not very often though.  I’m a meat and veggie type person, cut out a lot of carbs too.  I do eat fortified cereals with almond milk for my b12 intake.  Cereal is like a snack to me but I get the healthier cereals not the sugary stuff.  I honestly can’t find any bad triggers when it comes to food except sugar and potatoe chips which I quit eating.  I will say, when I come out of this experience I will definitely be healthier physically lol.  
 

Multi vitamins have not bothered me either, not sure why, maybe because I never really stoped taking them unless I’m having a bad gi week.  I still take vitamin D also.  

[Schmeg82]

This wave is relentless.  Every time I say things couldn’t get worse they do.  I had a good window in the middle of the day yesterday but in the evening it was back to worsening symptoms.  The anxiety was so bad last night I had to get out and walk just to distract.  Chest and throat tightness again, just a very uncomfortable feeling, and I even wake up with it in the mornings now.  I’ve had more dizzy spells lately too.  
 
I ordered stuff to make my water taper and am going to start crossing over tomorrow am.  
 

IS IT POSSIBLE THESE SYMPTOMS ARE STILL JUST WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS FROM MY TO FAST TAPER LAST YEAR?  Everyone seems to think the med is causing side effects for me now but I’ve never experienced anything like this before.  It’s been almost 8 months since WD symptoms started.  6 months on sept 5th to reinstating to 10mg.  
 

I’m starting my taper at 2% with a 3-4 week hold and go from there.  I really just want to get off the rest and let my brain heal.

[Schmeg82]

Side note:  I rode my horse the other night, I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired and not enjoying them.  I was shaky and a bit dizzy but I said screw it, if I die I die 😂 ( I shouldn’t think like this I know) it was absolutely exhilarating being on her.  In that 20 mins nothing else mattered.  I was even super brave and walked down the street to the neighbors house.  I didn’t tell my husband bc he would kill me for trying to ride.  I so wanted to get on the next evening but I felt even worse and didn’t want to risk it, plus no one was home or out in case I fell.  I’d like to try and ride more when I can, my soul felt SO calm when I was on my horse.  

[Willy]

Hope you get relief soon and I’m glad your horse gives you some peace. I think it’s possible your med is causing you trouble as well as withdrawal. I know the meds were causing my symptoms and I had no choice but to start tapering. Just take your time and begin tapering when you’re comfortable. Your the only one that can decide when your body is ready.

 

Enjoy the weekend as best as you can!

[Schmeg82]

21 minutes ago, Willy said:

Hope you get relief soon and I’m glad your horse gives you some peace. I think it’s possible your med is causing you trouble as well as withdrawal. I know the meds were causing my symptoms and I had no choice but to start tapering. Just take your time and begin tapering when you’re comfortable. Your the only one that can decide when your body is ready.

 

Enjoy the weekend as best as you can!

I started to shave my pills down already, I’m starting tomorrow to take the reduced pills, my scale wasn’t 100% correct each time but it was close so I’m between 2-5%, at this point I’m feeling so crappy I just want to get on with it.  I’ll see how I do shaving them down for a month or so.  I agree though, I think I’m having a lot of side effects from the med!  

[LostInCanada]

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

had a good window in the middle of the day yesterday

This is good though I know you wish it would stick around.

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

starting my taper at 2% with a 3-4 week hold and go from there.  I really just want to get off the rest and let my brain heal.

Keep a journal of symptoms. Usually day 4-7 is when you might feel it. Try not to overdo anything. Pace yourself....no over exertion.

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

my soul felt SO calm when I was on my horse.  

I get it ...it is liberating. Just not great when you are dizzy and struggling. Be careful. ❤️

[Catwoman73]

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

IS IT POSSIBLE THESE SYMPTOMS ARE STILL JUST WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS FROM MY TO FAST TAPER LAST YEAR?  Everyone seems to think the med is causing side effects for me now but I’ve never experienced anything like this before.  It’s been almost 8 months since WD symptoms started.  6 months on sept 5th to reinstating to 10mg.  
 

 

 

It is possible.  But it's also possible that the med is causing you side effects after the large updose.  You'll know a lot more once you start to taper.  Keep that symptom journal updated- things can get a bit fuzzy as symptoms wax and wane during a taper.  It's great to have a written document to show you exactly what's going on. 

 

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Side note:  I rode my horse the other night, I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired and not enjoying them.  I was shaky and a bit dizzy but I said screw it, if I die I die 😂 ( I shouldn’t think like this I know) it was absolutely exhilarating being on her.  In that 20 mins nothing else mattered.  I was even super brave and walked down the street to the neighbors house.  I didn’t tell my husband bc he would kill me for trying to ride.  I so wanted to get on the next evening but I felt even worse and didn’t want to risk it, plus no one was home or out in case I fell.  I’d like to try and ride more when I can, my soul felt SO calm when I was on my horse.  

 

This is how I feel when I'm dancing!  And it's why I'm having so much difficulty backing off, and doing it less often, and/or less intensely.  It's literally the only time I feel normal and joyful now.  So I totally understand.  Hopefully you can continue to incorporate riding into your days, even if you're just plodding around slowly.  

[Schmeg82]

6 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

This is good though I know you wish it would stick around.

Keep a journal of symptoms. Usually day 4-7 is when you might feel it. Try not to overdo anything. Pace yourself....no over exertion.

I get it ...it is liberating. Just not great when you are dizzy and struggling. Be careful. ❤️

I am keeping a journal.  I’m actually excited about tapering and not being complacent like I was before.  Mentally I’m ready to begin again, I feel like I have obtained so much more valuable knowledge this time which makes me much more confident with my taper.  
 

I will try and take it easy, I’m a pusher so it’s hard for me to take it easy but I will try my best.  I definitely won’t ride if I feel worse.  
 

thanks again, glad you’re feeling a little better.  I’m dizzy too this week, something must be in the air lol

[Schmeg82]

4 minutes ago, Catwoman73 said:

 

It is possible.  But it's also possible that the med is causing you side effects after the large updose.  You'll know a lot more once you start to taper.  Keep that symptom journal updated- things can get a bit fuzzy as symptoms wax and wane during a taper.  It's great to have a written document to show you exactly what's going on. 

 

 

This is how I feel when I'm dancing!  And it's why I'm having so much difficulty backing off, and doing it less often, and/or less intensely.  It's literally the only time I feel normal and joyful now.  So I totally understand.  Hopefully you can continue to incorporate riding into your days, even if you're just plodding around slowly.  

I feel like I’m having side effects again also that’s why I wanted to start my taper again.  I hope it goes smooth, but it definitely can’t be as bad as my botched taper last year so I have a whole lot more hope and confidence!

 

it’s great to have a hobby we’re passionate about isn’t it!  I’m glad you can still go sometimes as well, it’s so good for our healing and minds!  I’m a terrible dancer lol, although I’m quite flexible, but I’m not nimble I’m very clumsy haha, I’d be terrible at ballet!

[LostInCanada]

3 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

 I’m a terrible dancer lol,

Being at one with a horse is the most beautiful dance

[Schmeg82]

10 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

Being at one with a horse is the most beautiful dance

You aren’t lying!!! My horses have really grounded me through these awful times too! 

[Schmeg82]

Well another terrible evening and morning for me, although I did hop on my horse again last night and felt amazing while riding afterwards I felt really sick and nauseous which lasted a good couple of hours.  However, riding under the sunset was so very peaceful for me.  I was very shaky and anxious trying to fall asleep last night, woke up abruptly jolting several times.  
 

this morning I was full of anxiety, adrenaline and shaking again.  I had to do someone’s hair for a photoshoot and I had the burning feet and racy energy feeling while doing it, I felt awful but tried to ignore it and pushed through.  After they left I ate some lunch and felt better, I rode my stationary bike trying to get rid of some of the bad energy for 15 mins.  
 

I did make a small 2% cut on my pills, today was my first time taking one, so we shall see how it goes.  
 

guess I’ll update my signature 

[Willy]

@Schmeg82 sorry about the struggles you’re experiencing. I’m hoping your taper goes well and you eventually get some relief and stability. Take your time and things will work out for you. 

[Schmeg82]

1 hour ago, Willy said:

@Schmeg82 sorry about the struggles you’re experiencing. I’m hoping your taper goes well and you eventually get some relief and stability. Take your time and things will work out for you. 

Thank you!  Have you notice any difference with yours? I see your down a few MG that’s great!  

[Willy]

1 hour ago, Schmeg82 said:

Thank you!  Have you notice any difference with yours? I see your down a few MG that’s great!  

I haven’t noticed anything positive yet. Still struggling and hoping for relief. It’s just frustrating having to start the taper while in wd and unstable. The deck is stacked against me from the beginning.

 

Glad you’re starting to get off this poison. You’ll be off in no time and on with your life.

[Schmeg82]

Had a horrible night, bad night terrors all night, tossed and turned, thoughts ruminating all night, still have tight chest/throat this am, and super nauseous.  I need to eat but I don’t want to.  Dizzy and a little weak.  Very depressed.  I hope my whole taper doesn’t feel like this, I’ll never make it.

[Willy]

54 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

Had a horrible night, bad night terrors all night, tossed and turned, thoughts ruminating all night, still have tight chest/throat this am, and super nauseous.  I need to eat but I don’t want to.  Dizzy and a little weak.  Very depressed.  I hope my whole taper doesn’t feel like this, I’ll never make it.

I’m very sorry and hope you don’t suffer during taper. Im very sick and concerned about feeling like this for years. I question my ability to continue everyday but don’t know any other option. I’ve been praying for us to survive this ! Please hang on!

[Schmeg82]

45 minutes ago, Willy said:

I’m very sorry and hope you don’t suffer during taper. Im very sick and concerned about feeling like this for years. I question my ability to continue everyday but don’t know any other option. I’ve been praying for us to survive this ! Please hang on!

I’m trying my best, I’ve never been this sick and miserable for this long it’s awful.  I’ve been in a bad wave for a while and seems like it’s just getting worse.  I’m trying to keep going the best that I can.  I’m such an active person so this is so hard for me.  I don’t mind doing lighter things but at this point I can’t even do that.  I can’t eat without getting sick and if I don’t eat I feel sick.  It’s a loose loosw situation right now.  I hate the chest pressure and throat tightness it’s so uncomfortable.  Then in the afternoons the akathisia starts.  😭😭😭

[Catwoman73]

2 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Had a horrible night, bad night terrors all night, tossed and turned, thoughts ruminating all night, still have tight chest/throat this am, and super nauseous.  I need to eat but I don’t want to.  Dizzy and a little weak.  Very depressed.  I hope my whole taper doesn’t feel like this, I’ll never make it.

Hang in there, @Schmeg82!  Go slow- there's no rush.  The tortoise always wins!  You're doing the best you can- that's all you need to do right now.  Every time I make a drop, I feel it pretty much immediately for a day or two, then it improves.  Now that I'm doing the Brassmonkey slide, I typically don't feel much until after the 3rd of the four drops.  

 

55 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

 I hate the chest pressure and throat tightness it’s so uncomfortable.  

 

I feel your pain on this- this has been one of my worst long covid symptoms!  There are so many similarities between withdrawal and LC- it's a bit crazy.  For me, it's my chest, neck and head.  I told my husband that it feels like those areas are a balloon that has been blown up to the point where it's about to burst.  It's a really awful feeling.  Sending hugs!

[Schmeg82]

1 minute ago, Catwoman73 said:

Hang in there, @Schmeg82!  Go slow- there's no rush.  The tortoise always wins!  You're doing the best you can- that's all you need to do right now.  Every time I make a drop, I feel it pretty much immediately for a day or two, then it improves.  Now that I'm doing the Brassmonkey slide, I typically don't feel much until after the 3rd of the four drops.  

 

 

I feel your pain on this- this has been one of my worst long covid symptoms!  There are so many similarities between withdrawal and LC- it's a bit crazy.  For me, it's my chest, neck and head.  I told my husband that it feels like those areas are a balloon that has been blown up to the point where it's about to burst.  It's a really awful feeling.  Sending hugs!

Thank you, these symptoms started before my taper and have been pretty consistent for a week or so, I don’t know why I’m getting worse again, it’s awful. 
 

I'm sorry you have those symptoms as well.  It’s no fun.  

[Catwoman73]

6 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

Thank you, these symptoms started before my taper and have been pretty consistent for a week or so, I don’t know why I’m getting worse again, it’s awful. 
 

I'm sorry you have those symptoms as well.  It’s no fun.  

 

I think it's just a bad wave... which is good news, because all waves recede eventually.  It can't hurt to have a hard look at anything that might have changed around the time the symptoms started, just to see if anything- even something small- might have changed.  But not all waves have an identifiable trigger.  Sometimes they just happen.  

 

For what it's worth, I think you're doing really well, @Schmeg82.  You've done a great job of just rolling with your symptoms, even when they are terrible.  This is what it takes to get through this journey.  The more we fight it, the worse we feel.  Acceptance, and learning to 'float' as Claire Weekes puts it, makes a difference.  

 

I'm thinking of you, and hoping you get some relief real soon!  ❤️‍🩹

[Schmeg82]

11 minutes ago, Catwoman73 said:

 

I think it's just a bad wave... which is good news, because all waves recede eventually.  It can't hurt to have a hard look at anything that might have changed around the time the symptoms started, just to see if anything- even something small- might have changed.  But not all waves have an identifiable trigger.  Sometimes they just happen.  

 

For what it's worth, I think you're doing really well, @Schmeg82.  You've done a great job of just rolling with your symptoms, even when they are terrible.  This is what it takes to get through this journey.  The more we fight it, the worse we feel.  Acceptance, and learning to 'float' as Claire Weekes puts it, makes a difference.  

 

I'm thinking of you, and hoping you get some relief real soon!  ❤️‍🩹

Thank you again, I’m just trying to live my life as normally as I can, even when I feel awful I do some of the same things I would normally do.   I’m not one to lay around all day so this is so incredibly hard for me.  When I go and try to do “normal” stuff I get so sick but I’m proud of myself for trying.  
 

I honestly can’t find any triggers other then my cycle, and my cycle was much lighter then normal this time around which was strange.  So maybe hormones have impacted this wave I’m not sure.  Maybe it’s side effects from the drug, who knows, I’m just ready to be off of it and moving on with life.  I know that’s going to be very long while but I hope I get some relief as time passes.  

[RachelSusan]

@Schmeg82 I was always afraid I would "get stuck" with symptoms.  I didn't but it sure was a frightening thought.  What you are going through sounds very much like what I went through. I know it is hell. Probably the worst thing you have ever experienced.

 

You might be able to take something for the nausea.  I was able to get a prescription from my doctor, I believe it was Odansetron (Zofran). I tried to use it sparingly, but it did help when things got really bad.  Over the counter Dramamine made me worse, which makes no sense because they are both antihistamines. This was just my experience. If you do decide to try this, as always, you might want to consider starting with a 25% or 50% dose just to make sure you are alright with it because I have read on this site about someone getting a paradoxal reaction. I also suggest this lower dose at first because when I was in your situation I was super sensitive to everything.

 

I know your last decrease was a very small and sensible decrease, and you stated you were not feeling good before the taper. Can you give your symptoms time to clear up and then hold for three or four months after you stabilize before you taper again? I am not suggesting your taper caused this because as you stated you were sick before, I just want to set you up for success in the future. I did try and do the same thing myself, taper before I stabilized, actually many times over, and I didn't have good luck with this formula.

 

I am sorry you are going through this.

[Schmeg82]

24 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

@Schmeg82 I was always afraid I would "get stuck" with symptoms.  I didn't but it sure was a frightening thought.  What you are going through sounds very much like what I went through. I know it is hell. Probably the worst thing you have ever experienced.

 

You might be able to take something for the nausea.  I was able to get a prescription from my doctor, I believe it was Odansetron (Zofran). I tried to use it sparingly, but it did help when things got really bad.  Over the counter Dramamine made me worse, which makes no sense because they are both antihistamines. This was just my experience. If you do decide to try this, as always, you might want to consider starting with a 25% or 50% dose just to make sure you are alright with it because I have read on this site about someone getting a paradoxal reaction. I also suggest this lower dose at first because when I was in your situation I was super sensitive to everything.

 

I know your last decrease was a very small and sensible decrease, and you stated you were not feeling good before the taper. Can you give your symptoms time to clear up and then hold for three or four months after you stabilize before you taper again? I am not suggesting your taper caused this because as you stated you were sick before, I just want to set you up for success in the future. I did try and do the same thing myself, taper before I stabilized, actually many times over, and I didn't have good luck with this formula.

 

I am sorry you are going through this.

Hey there, thanks for checking in, so as far as stabilizing goes, I held at 10mg (my reinstatement) for almost 6 months now with no improvements at all, I’ve actually gotten worse.  I’m back to having the same symptoms I had in the beginning (almost 8 months ago).  I was having bad side effects when I was on the full dose (20mg) that’s why I decided to taper down (which now I realize was way to fast).  So I believe I’m in tolerance or poop out possibly and may not ever fully stabilize.  That is my biggest fear, waiting all these months to years and not stabilizing at all.  At this point I wanted to try a micro taper and holds to see if I actually get any relief from symptoms.  
 

were you in tolerance as well?  How long did it take you to stabilize before you started to taper again?  I just don’t know what to do honestly but I figured a very small decrease and hold probably won’t hurt me anymore then I already am. 
 

oh and as far as zofran, I had no issues taking 1/2 of one in the beginning of withdrawal, in fact the hospital gave me lots of IV zofran but I was told because of the serotonin in it not to take it anymore so I haven’t. 

[RachelSusan]

@Schmeg82 You are correct, Zofran  is part of the antiemetic class of medications, with a selective 5-HTC3 receptor antagonist, and yes the drug can introduce additional serotonin into your body. However for me, after 12 hour bouts of nausea I did occasionally take a half dose of my prescribed 4mg dose.

 

I have a lot of compassion for what you are going through. It took me about 5 years to taper off. However the last 2 or 3 years were much easier because I had figured out how to safely tape, for me, everyone is different.  It got to the point where I no longer felt the tapers when I did them. The hard part, for me, was not rushing it.
 

 

 

[LostInCanada]

1 hour ago, RachelSusan said:

Odansetron (Zofran)

This is not a drug I recommend. 

Quote from the manufacturer:

Even common side effects from the drug are rare, but you may feel sick to your stomach after taking Zofran. The medication blocks serotonin from entering certain cells of the nervous system in charge of the nausea reflex.

[Schmeg82]

34 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

@Schmeg82 You are correct, Zofran  is part of the antiemetic class of medications, with a selective 5-HTC3 receptor antagonist, and yes the drug can introduce additional serotonin into your body. However for me, after 12 hour bouts of nausea I did occasionally take a half dose of my prescribed 4mg dose.

 

I have a lot of compassion for what you are going through. It took me about 5 years to taper off. However the last 2 or 3 years were much easier because I had figured out how to safely tape, for me, everyone is different.  It got to the point where I no longer felt the tapers when I did them. The hard part, for me, was not rushing it.
 

 

 

I concur, even though there are certain things that may interact with our withdrawal I have found myself desperate and taken them with thankfully no repercussions.  I think everyone’s body’s are different and can handle things better than others. I still take advil and aleve while I have a bad headache, Tylenol doesn’t touch me.  I also indulge in some sugar and carbs from time to time.  The only time food is a trigger is when I’m having gi issues then I lay off everything.  I’m eating very well all together though.

 

I’m hoping that is my case as I taper down, and I have to remember it’s not a race as well because I know me and I’ll want to get off faster then I should.

[Schmeg82]

10 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

This is not a drug I recommend. 

Quote from the manufacturer:

Even common side effects from the drug are rare, but you may feel sick to your stomach after taking Zofran. The medication blocks serotonin from entering certain cells of the nervous system in charge of the nausea reflex.

Thankfully it never affected me, even the high dose the hospital gave me iv.  I got super sick after my lumbar puncture (didn’t know I was in withdrawal at the time) it actually did help but I’m glad I had no crazy reactions.  I always only took half of one after that, the only thing it did do was make me a little sleepy. Haven’t taken it in 7 months or so.  
 

they also gave me lots of prednisone for my swollen optic nerves (which ended up being drusen anyway) so I was taking all this crap i shouldn’t have been, all along asking each doctor if this was from my Paxil with the sure answer of “no way”, ha, imagine that.  

[Willy]

1 hour ago, Schmeg82 said:

I believe I’m in tolerance or poop out possibly and may not ever fully stabilize

I agree with you and think you’re doing the right thing with starting a micro taper. There was no guarantee you would’ve ever stabilized. We are in a similar situation with having wd symptoms while starting the taper. Just keep doing things that you feel is best for your situation!

[Xcaretuk]

6 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Thank you again, I’m just trying to live my life as normally as I can, even when I feel awful I do some of the same things I would normally do.   I’m not one to lay around all day so this is so incredibly hard for me.  When I go and try to do “normal” stuff I get so sick but I’m proud of myself for trying.  
 

I honestly can’t find any triggers other then my cycle, and my cycle was much lighter then normal this time around which was strange.  So maybe hormones have impacted this wave I’m not sure.  Maybe it’s side effects from the drug, who knows, I’m just ready to be off of it and moving on with life.  I know that’s going to be very long while but I hope I get some relief as time passes.  

Hi lovely,

sorry to hear you are struggling so much. This journey sure sucks. Sending you healing vibes. PM me anytime xxxx

[Schmeg82]

48 minutes ago, Xcaretuk said:

Hi lovely,

sorry to hear you are struggling so much. This journey sure sucks. Sending you healing vibes. PM me anytime xxxx

Thank you I will.  It’s been rough, I’ll message you! 

[Schmeg82]

Last night was awful. I felt like I was plugged in all night, shaky, over stimulated, tingly legs, feet, burning feet, restless. Very anxious waking up, feet still burning/tingly.  Took 100mg magnesium, cleaned the whole barn and still just felt off, shaky, weak and off balance/dizzy.  
 

walked the pasture a short bit, gave horses some treats went home to shower and try to relax.  Ate some cereal and now I feel slightly better.  Not tingling anymore but still dizzy and eyes are not focusing well.  
 

doubt this is due to my decrease bc this started before my decrease but I’m not getting any relief.  

[Willy]

31 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

Last night was awful. I felt like I was plugged in all night, shaky, over stimulated, tingly legs, feet, burning feet, restless. Very anxious waking up, feet still burning/tingly.  Took 100mg magnesium, cleaned the whole barn and still just felt off, shaky, weak and off balance/dizzy.  
 

walked the pasture a short bit, gave horses some treats went home to shower and try to relax.  Ate some cereal and now I feel slightly better.  Not tingling anymore but still dizzy and eyes are not focusing well.  
 

doubt this is due to my decrease bc this started before my decrease but I’m not getting any relief.  

Im sorry. I also had a rough night. Slept for a couple hours and woke up soaking wet with night sweats and all the usual symptoms. It’s good you powered through this morning and cleaned your barn. That takes some strong will power. Hopefully you can relax the rest of the day and find some peace

[Schmeg82]

9 minutes ago, Willy said:

Im sorry. I also had a rough night. Slept for a couple hours and woke up soaking wet with night sweats and all the usual symptoms. It’s good you powered through this morning and cleaned your barn. That takes some strong will power. Hopefully you can relax the rest of the day and find some peace

I wake up soaking wet all the time too, constantly changing sheets it’s horrible.  I’m sorry you also had a rough night.  You’ll get some good nights, I have had great nights, I just don’t know where they went lol.

 

chores always need to be done, rain or shine, withdrawal or not lol, gives me a purpose in life right now, and out of the house on bad days like today.