Willy: Currently in Paxil poop out withdrawal and thinking of cold turkey quitting all meds. I can’t take it anymore. Any help appreciated

[Schmeg82]

30 minutes ago, Willy said:

Doing ok. It’s still a struggle. Thanks for checking in!!

 

How are you doing today?

I’m sorry you’re still struggling but pushing forward!  I’m okay, had mostly a great day yesterday until around 5-7pm bad akathisia sets in.  I did a lot yesterday so just trying to chill today.  Hope you continue to move forward and heal.

[Willy]

4 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

I’m sorry you’re still struggling but pushing forward!  I’m okay, had mostly a great day yesterday until around 5-7pm bad akathisia sets in.  I did a lot yesterday so just trying to chill today.  Hope you continue to move forward and heal.

That’s good that yesterday was mostly great for you. I sometimes get a couple hours that are good and it’s like a tease because I know it’s short lived. 
 

Enjoy your chill day as best you can!!

[AAOffZ]

On 8/6/2024 at 12:37 PM, Willy said:

What is the magnesium everybody uses here? Is the brand Calm acceptable?

I had a bad reaction to Glycinate. I CAN take small amounts of mag citrate (calm). Not sure if it helps anything that I can pinpoint. But, since most are deficient, I take 1/4 scoop (100 mg) in my water in the morning. Perhaps start with 25 mg or so. Ease into it. 
 

Glad to hear you are coping and hanging in there @Willy

[Willy]

17 hours ago, AAOffZ said:

I had a bad reaction to Glycinate. I CAN take small amounts of mag citrate (calm). Not sure if it helps anything that I can pinpoint. But, since most are deficient, I take 1/4 scoop (100 mg) in my water in the morning. Perhaps start with 25 mg or so. Ease into it. 
 

Glad to hear you are coping and hanging in there @Willy

I have some calm but I’m nervous about adding any supplements. I’m going to hold off until 6 weeks. That’s the end of my first taper cycle

[Willy]

Another day and struggling continues. Depression, anxiety, tinnitus, nausea, extreme fatigue, dizziness are the worst symptoms currently. Trying to power through it. My mind continues to go down the path that I’m stuck like this for year’s because of how much drugs I’m on. Also the fact I can’t do anything to speed this up. Totally helpless. 
 

I’m just venting on this forum using it as a journal. Not trying to spread negativity 

[LostInCanada]

4 minutes ago, Willy said:

. Also the fact I can’t do anything to speed this up.

Have you had any increase in symptoms since tapering? Or do you feel the same?

[Schmeg82]

22 minutes ago, Willy said:

Another day and struggling continues. Depression, anxiety, tinnitus, nausea, extreme fatigue, dizziness are the worst symptoms currently. Trying to power through it. My mind continues to go down the path that I’m stuck like this for year’s because of how much drugs I’m on. Also the fact I can’t do anything to speed this up. Totally helpless. 
 

I’m just venting on this forum using it as a journal. Not trying to spread negativity 

Just keep on keepin on, you got this.  It should get better for you soon!  One day at a time!  🙏🏼👊🏼

[Sebas]

On 8/6/2024 at 6:37 PM, Willy said:

Can I drink chamomile tea or herbal teas?

I would not.

[Willy]

1 hour ago, LostInCanada said:

Have you had any increase in symptoms since tapering? Or do you feel the same?

For the most part it’s been the same symptoms I mentioned above just the intensity has ticked up on some days. I don’t have much history to notice patterns since I’ve only been tapering a couple weeks but it seems like my worst days happen 4-5 days after I reduce dosage

[Willy]

1 hour ago, Sebas said:

I would not.

This is very disappointing. Any reason?

 

What can I take to help relax?

[LostInCanada]

@Willy I was hoping you would be able to do a straight 10% if there was no symptoms. You are very sensitive so slow is good. 

I drink ginger tea for nausea and a chamomile/lavender tea for calming. I know chamomile is not good if you have ragweed allergies. I know some herbs are adaptogens and can cause issues. Ginger has helped me immensely.

[Willy]

14 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

@Willy I was hoping you would be able to do a straight 10% if there was no symptoms. You are very sensitive so slow is good. 

I drink ginger tea for nausea and a chamomile/lavender tea for calming. I know chamomile is not good if you have ragweed allergies. I know some herbs are adaptogens and can cause issues. Ginger has helped me immensely.

I just don’t know if tapering is causing/worsening my symptoms because I already had them before I started the taper. Very depressing situation.

 

i hope you have a good day!

[LostInCanada]

20 minutes ago, Willy said:

don’t know if tapering is causing/worsening my symptoms because I already had them before I started the taper.

It's hard to know. With some more time you will figure it out. 

Hopefully today will be better for us both. I know it is difficult but trying to just stay in the moment and not over think it is the best. One day at a time. 

[Willy]

5 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

It's hard to know. With some more time you will figure it out. 

Hopefully today will be better for us both. I know it is difficult but trying to just stay in the moment and not over think it is the best. One day at a time. 

Today is the worst day since I started taper. Tomorrow is my third cut of 2.5%. Hoping these cuts aren’t piling up for the worst. I just don’t have the option to hold because the paroxetine had fizzled out on me and making me sick.

 

Hope your day is better than mine

[Schmeg82]

22 minutes ago, Willy said:

Today is the worst day since I started taper. Tomorrow is my third cut of 2.5%. Hoping these cuts aren’t piling up for the worst. I just don’t have the option to hold because the paroxetine had fizzled out on me and making me sick.

 

Hope your day is better than mine

Just a bad day, you’ll get better.  Just keep pushing forward, there’s light at the end of this tunnel!!! We can do it.  Not gonna be easy but you’ll get there.  

[LostInCanada]

28 minutes ago, Willy said:

Today is the worst day since I started taper.

Sorry to hear. After tomorrow's cut see how you feel in a week. It might be worth holding at that point for the 2 weeks. Not everyone can do the 2.5%. 

Sometimes you have to find your sweet spot -2% might be worth trying. 

Hate these drugs so much. 

What time of day do you take each drug?

 

[Willy]

2 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

Sorry to hear. After tomorrow's cut see how you feel in a week. It might be worth holding at that point for the 2 weeks. Not everyone can do the 2.5%. 

Sometimes you have to find your sweet spot -2% might be worth trying. 

Hate these drugs so much. 

What time of day do you take each drug?

 

Paroxetine at 7:30am. Mirtazapine and seroquel 9ish at night

[Willy]

2 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Just a bad day, you’ll get better.  Just keep pushing forward, there’s light at the end of this tunnel!!! We can do it.  Not gonna be easy but you’ll get there.  

Thanks!! I hope you’re doing better

[LostInCanada]

31 minutes ago, Willy said:

Paroxetine at 7:30am. Mirtazapine and seroquel 9ish at night

I am wondering if you took seroquel and mirtazapine at least 2 hours apart if that would help since they have a possible interaction.

[Willy]

On 8/11/2024 at 8:44 PM, LostInCanada said:

I am wondering if you took seroquel and mirtazapine at least 2 hours apart if that would help since they have a possible interaction.

I’m scared to make any other adjustments at this time since my body is struggling to deal with the tapering of paroxetine 

[LostInCanada]

16 minutes ago, Willy said:

I’m scared to make any other adjustments

I totally get this 100%. I have seen it suggested before but the drug is in your blood stream anyway. 

Best not to change more than necessary. 

Just hope you could get some relief and soon. 🙏

[Willy]

Depression, anxiety, tinnitus, nausea, extreme fatigue, dizziness, buzzing in brain and ears, loss of weight are slowly wearing me down. Everyday is torture being stuck at home completely disabled not knowing if this will lighten up. Laying on couch or bed all day is starting to ruin my physical health and any exercise makes symptoms worse. I don’t know how I’m going to handle this for years and if symptoms continue to worsen I’m pretty much doomed. All I do is try to survive each day just hoping a little relief is coming.

 

I hope others on here are doing well on their journey!

[LostInCanada]

@Willy I find distraction is huge to get me through the day. I read alot using the library app Libby. I walk on a treadmill at whatever pace my body allows for 20 minutes a day. I try to walk in nature 30-60 minutes daily. (Very leisurely) I play mindless games on my phone. 

For nausea, I drink ginger tea daily and when it's really bad-ginger chews.

It will level out and get better. 

Have you read Claire Weekes or tried some CBT? 

Despite your suffering, you have been so amazing encouraging others. Please read the success stories. ❤️

[Willy]

3 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

Have you read Claire Weekes or tried some CBT

Yes and yes. Pdoc had me do CBT after I CT benzo. It didn’t help. He also didn’t believe I was in severe wd from the CT. I’ve just never been a good patient in the psychiatric world. I, like many others , should have never been introduced to “mental health care”. There was nothing wrong with us that required the use of these meds or therapy treatments. My attitude toward the mental health profession is beyond poor. I just don’t want anything to do with it. I want off these drugs and if I survive I’m going to spend the rest of my life educating others about the dangers of these drugs. Sorry for the rant

 

I really hope you’re having a good day @LostInCanada. Always appreciate your encouraging words!

 

 

[Schmeg82]

3 hours ago, Willy said:

Depression, anxiety, tinnitus, nausea, extreme fatigue, dizziness, buzzing in brain and ears, loss of weight are slowly wearing me down. Everyday is torture being stuck at home completely disabled not knowing if this will lighten up. Laying on couch or bed all day is starting to ruin my physical health and any exercise makes symptoms worse. I don’t know how I’m going to handle this for years and if symptoms continue to worsen I’m pretty much doomed. All I do is try to survive each day just hoping a little relief is coming.

 

I hope others on here are doing well on their journey!

Relief is on the way!  Just take it one day at a time, when you feel well enough go for a light walk.  Get out in the sunlight if you can, try not to sit inside all the time!  It gets depressing inside so on my bad days I sit in my backyard for as long as I can.  The sun & fresh air helps so much.  
praying for you to have some better days soon!

[LostInCanada]

13 minutes ago, Willy said:

Sorry for the rant

It's all good. I totally get it. I took a CBT when I had cold turkey'd and thought it was pretty useless but then I found a few things that worked for me to deal with the anxiety of WD. Mostly deep breathing and some grounding as well as cold water on my hands and face. 

I know you are angry, so am I. I read something that resonated with me though....you can either be angry or you can heal. The two don't work together. So for now I try to put my energy into healing. Though a good rant and cry doesn't hurt once in awhile. 💯

19 minutes ago, Willy said:

hope you’re having a good day

Still not great but I will get there. Thanks for asking.

 

[Willy]

3 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

know you are angry, so am I. I read something that resonated with me though....you can either be angry or you can heal

Anger is something I’m working on. I’ve always been a chill beach bum guy. Anger was never a part of me. Now I’m angry at myself for allowing this to happen and angry at the doctors. I definitely would rather heal than be angry so thanks for that LIC. I’m still coming to terms with my situation and accepting it. 
 

@LostInCanada you seem to have found the right balance of emotions in dealing with wd. I hope to get there soon. Take care!!

[Willy]

20 minutes ago, Schmeg82 said:

It gets depressing inside so on my bad days I sit in my backyard for as long as I can.  The sun & fresh air helps so much.

That’s for sure. I’m used to being on my boat or beach and now everything has changed overnight. I also sit out back by the pool and the fresh air helps. This new life is a huge adjustment and hard. 
 

Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. I hope you string together many good days and finally begin your taper. Enjoy your animals!

[Schmeg82]

9 minutes ago, Willy said:

That’s for sure. I’m used to being on my boat or beach and now everything has changed overnight. I also sit out back by the pool and the fresh air helps. This new life is a huge adjustment and hard. 
 

Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. I hope you string together many good days and finally begin your taper. Enjoy your animals!

Thanks, I hope so too, I actually rode my horse last night, which is crazy because I was tremoring and dizzy but when I’m on her I don’t think about my symptoms and it was liberating.  I’m at the point where I just say screw it and try doing stuff until I can’t anymore.  
 

we are fishing people too, and I miss the beach and fishing, I haven’t been far from home in months though.  The beach would be healing right now but it’s also to hot.  I’m trying to get used to this new life also and it sucks but this is what we need to do to heal.  Hope down better days for both of us.  

[LostInCanada]

20 minutes ago, Willy said:

you seem to have found the right balance

It's a work in progress. Don't beat yourself up for trusting the doctors. We all did.

[ShantyO7]

4 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

you can either be angry or you can heal. The two don't work together. So for now I try to put my energy into healing. Though a good rant and cry doesn't hurt once in awhile. 💯

Oooooo, that's good! 

[Schmeg82]

Hope you’re hanging in there and enjoying our “cold front” 😂 not gonna lie it was beautiful last night and this am.  I’m still sitting in the backyard at 11:45am and not actually sweating my arse off.  

[Willy]

2 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

Hope you’re hanging in there and enjoying our “cold front” 😂 not gonna lie it was beautiful last night and this am.  I’m still sitting in the backyard at 11:45am and not actually sweating my arse off.  

Yes I was out by the pool today and not drenched in sweat. I’m having another tough day . It’s only been tough days lately. Pretty sure I’m stuck like this for years during this taper. 
 

Thanks for checking in

[Schmeg82]

18 minutes ago, Willy said:

Yes I was out by the pool today and not drenched in sweat. I’m having another tough day . It’s only been tough days lately. Pretty sure I’m stuck like this for years during this taper. 
 

Thanks for checking in

I don’t think it will be years honestly, I think we have similar situations and once you get down lower you will get some relief.  Hang in there! I wish we had a pool, I’d be in it every day. 

[Willy]

3 hours ago, Schmeg82 said:

I don’t think it will be years honestly, I think we have similar situations and once you get down lower you will get some relief.  Hang in there! I wish we had a pool, I’d be in it every day. 

I hope you’re right. I won’t survive years of this. It’s too much. I think it’s incredible how long you and others here have been battling this. Very strong people. On another note, I had several family members over at the house today and I get really tired of everyone trying to tell me how to recover. They have no clue what I’m dealing with and how long the tapering takes. They all suggested if I did this or that then I would feel better in a week. They think I need to work with a Dr and not this forum. People just don’t understand unless you’ve lived it. Oh well….take care and good luck with your taper!

[LostInCanada]

6 minutes ago, Willy said:

They have no clue what I’m dealing with and how long the tapering takes.

So frustrating and it doesn't help when it's such a fragile situation. You don't need more doubts, just support. Fortunately we understand because we have all been through it.  

12 minutes ago, Willy said:

They all suggested if I did this or that then I would feel better in a week

Lol....like we are all suffering for the fun of it.

13 minutes ago, Willy said:

I won’t survive years of this

You just have to survive today and you will. It will get better.