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Thanks for coming back to share your story, Asta. It is sure to give other members a boost and encouragement.

 

On 8/18/2024 at 1:00 AM, Asta said:

I know that right now it seems like things will never get better, but believe me that your day of light will come

 

It's so good to read this.

 

On 8/18/2024 at 1:00 AM, Asta said:

Do something, try to divert your thoughts,

 

Distractions certainly can be very helpful.

 

On 8/18/2024 at 1:00 AM, Asta said:

I have completely given up junk food. I think that helped me get better as well.

 

Likewise, I noticed a difference, too.

 

On 8/18/2024 at 1:00 AM, Asta said:

Many thanks to the moderators and a special thank you to Altostrata. You are all life savers.

 

I too am grateful to Altostrata and her team over the past 10 years or so.

 

Once again, thanks for posting this, and please keep us updated down the track 🙂

Please don't send me PMs. I am not a doctor. My comments are based on my personal experience with ADs and tapering. Consult your doctor about your own medical decisions.

Start of taper: Jan ’22 Vortioxetine 15mg, 

End year 1: 4.5mg, 

End year 2: 2.38mg, 

Year 3: 8 Feb 2.19mg, 21 Mar 1.99mg, 2 May 1.83mg, 13 Jun 1.69mg, 25 Jul 1.50mg, 14 Aug 1.46mg, 3 Sep 1.43mg, 10 Sep 1.40mg

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  • KenA changed the title to ☼ Asta: I am healthy with no crazy symptoms

This is really encouraging how you kept going outside doing things despite your symptoms. That is something that I struggle with (to stay in or continue living life). Thank you for sharing your story. 
 

Were you able to watch tv during your recovery or did it make symptoms worse? And also Did you have chemical smell, noise and light sensitivity?@Asta

April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg

had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again 

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At first I was very sensitive to noise, I couldn't watch TV at all. Except for the nature and animal channels, it calmed me down.
I didn't have a problem with the light and smell, but I had a lot of other crazy symptoms.
Everything will pass with time.

Escitalopram (Cipralex): 17 Mar 2018, 5mg; 18 Mar, 10mg; 8 Jun, 5mg; 19 Jul, 2.5mg; 30 Jul 2018, 0mg  

 

Trazodone (Triticco):  28 Apr 2018, 50mg; 18 Jun, 66mg; 19 Jun, 75mg; 4 Oct, 67mg; 10 Nov, 62.5mg; 18 Nov, 62mg; 7 Dec, 56mg; 3 Jan 2019, 50mg; 30 Jan, 45 mg; 24 Feb, 41 mg; 23 Mar, 37 mg; 26 Apr, 33,3 mg; 22 May, 30 mg; 18 Jun, 27 mg; 5 Aug, 24,3 mg; 1 Sept, 21,9 mg; 28 Sept, 19,7 mg;  26 Oct, 17,7 mg; 23 Nov, 15,9 mg; 21 Dec, 14,3 mg; 18 Jan 2020, 12,9 mg; 16 Feb, 11,6 mg; 15 Mar, 10,44 mg; 12 Apr, 9,4 mg; 10 May, 8,5 mg; 7 Jun, 7,65 mg; 5 Jul, 6,89 mg; 2 Aug, 6,2 mg; 30 Aug, 5,58 mg; 27 Sept, 5,02 mg; 25 Oct, 4,52 mg; 22 Nov, 4,07 mg; 20 Dec, 3,66 mg; 17 Jan 2021, 3,29 mg; 14 Feb, 2,96 mg; 14 Mar, 2,66 mg; 11 Apr, 2,39 mg; May, 2,15 mg; 6 Jun, 1,94 mg; 4 Jul, 1,75 mg; 1 Aug, 1,58 mg; 29 Aug, 1,42 mg; 26 Sept, 1,28 mg; 24 Oct, 1,15 mg; 21 Nov, 1,04 mg; 19 Dec, 0,94 mg; 17 Jan 2022, 0,85 mg; 13 Feb, 0,77 mg; 13 Mar, 0,69 mg; 10 Apr, 0,62 mg; 8 May, 0,56 mg; 5 Jun, 0,5 mg; 19 Jun, 0,45 mg; 3 Jul, 0,41 mg; 17 Jul, 0,37 mg; 31 Jul, 0,33 mg; 14 Aug, 0,3 mg; 28 Aug, 0,27 mg; 11 Sept, 0,24 mg; 25 Sept, 0,22 mg; 9 Oct, 0,2; 23 Oct, 0,18 mg; 6 Nov, 0,16 mg; 20 Nov, 0,14 mg; 4 Dec, 0,13 mg; 18 Dec, 0,12 mg; 1 Jan 2023, 0,11 mg; 15 Jan, 0,10 mg; 29 Jan, 0,09 mg; 12 Feb, 0,08 mg; 26 Feb, 0,07 mg; 12 Mar, 0,06 mg; 26 Mar, 0,05 mg; 9 Apr, 0,04 mg; 23 Apr, 0,03 mg; 7 May, 0,02 mg; 21 May, 0,01 mg, 4 Jun 0 mg! 

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Super Asta!!  I love reading this and thank you for sharing your success in recovering from these drugs!!!

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks.

Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988.  In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm.

Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time).

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!  Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to

2016 Dec 16 medication free!!

Longer signature post here, with current supplements.

Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed.  Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022, and again finally 5/25/24.  Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜

None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider.  My success story:  Blue skies ahead, clear sailing

 

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On 9/1/2024 at 11:53 PM, Asta said:

At first I was very sensitive to noise, I couldn't watch TV at all. Except for the nature and animal channels, it calmed me down.
I didn't have a problem with the light and smell, but I had a lot of other crazy symptoms.
Everything will pass with time.


Thank you. 1. Did you have extreme fear/anxiety inner restlessness (like inner akathisia?

 

2. did you have obsessive thoughts/intrusive thoughts?

@Asta

 

April 2022- Only 1 celxa pill 10mg

had an adverse reaction & never took anymore again 

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Yes, I had these symptoms. Everything passed with time.

Escitalopram (Cipralex): 17 Mar 2018, 5mg; 18 Mar, 10mg; 8 Jun, 5mg; 19 Jul, 2.5mg; 30 Jul 2018, 0mg  

 

Trazodone (Triticco):  28 Apr 2018, 50mg; 18 Jun, 66mg; 19 Jun, 75mg; 4 Oct, 67mg; 10 Nov, 62.5mg; 18 Nov, 62mg; 7 Dec, 56mg; 3 Jan 2019, 50mg; 30 Jan, 45 mg; 24 Feb, 41 mg; 23 Mar, 37 mg; 26 Apr, 33,3 mg; 22 May, 30 mg; 18 Jun, 27 mg; 5 Aug, 24,3 mg; 1 Sept, 21,9 mg; 28 Sept, 19,7 mg;  26 Oct, 17,7 mg; 23 Nov, 15,9 mg; 21 Dec, 14,3 mg; 18 Jan 2020, 12,9 mg; 16 Feb, 11,6 mg; 15 Mar, 10,44 mg; 12 Apr, 9,4 mg; 10 May, 8,5 mg; 7 Jun, 7,65 mg; 5 Jul, 6,89 mg; 2 Aug, 6,2 mg; 30 Aug, 5,58 mg; 27 Sept, 5,02 mg; 25 Oct, 4,52 mg; 22 Nov, 4,07 mg; 20 Dec, 3,66 mg; 17 Jan 2021, 3,29 mg; 14 Feb, 2,96 mg; 14 Mar, 2,66 mg; 11 Apr, 2,39 mg; May, 2,15 mg; 6 Jun, 1,94 mg; 4 Jul, 1,75 mg; 1 Aug, 1,58 mg; 29 Aug, 1,42 mg; 26 Sept, 1,28 mg; 24 Oct, 1,15 mg; 21 Nov, 1,04 mg; 19 Dec, 0,94 mg; 17 Jan 2022, 0,85 mg; 13 Feb, 0,77 mg; 13 Mar, 0,69 mg; 10 Apr, 0,62 mg; 8 May, 0,56 mg; 5 Jun, 0,5 mg; 19 Jun, 0,45 mg; 3 Jul, 0,41 mg; 17 Jul, 0,37 mg; 31 Jul, 0,33 mg; 14 Aug, 0,3 mg; 28 Aug, 0,27 mg; 11 Sept, 0,24 mg; 25 Sept, 0,22 mg; 9 Oct, 0,2; 23 Oct, 0,18 mg; 6 Nov, 0,16 mg; 20 Nov, 0,14 mg; 4 Dec, 0,13 mg; 18 Dec, 0,12 mg; 1 Jan 2023, 0,11 mg; 15 Jan, 0,10 mg; 29 Jan, 0,09 mg; 12 Feb, 0,08 mg; 26 Feb, 0,07 mg; 12 Mar, 0,06 mg; 26 Mar, 0,05 mg; 9 Apr, 0,04 mg; 23 Apr, 0,03 mg; 7 May, 0,02 mg; 21 May, 0,01 mg, 4 Jun 0 mg! 

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On 8/17/2024 at 10:00 AM, Asta said:

mod note:  Asta's Introduction topic:  Asta: Cipralex/escitalopram

 

I want to encourage you all not worry for even a second, you will get better from this medication. I know that right now it seems like things will never get better, but believe me that your day of light will come and that all this will be in the past. Even through the toughest times, keep moving forward as much as you can. I would spend lots of time in nature, walk a lot, try my hardest to interact with others. This would help me get away from the symptoms and bad thoughts. I tried many things like breathing exercises, cold showers/baths, the power of my thoughts, listened to calm music, listened to a variety of lectures, and so on. These things helped me move forward and allowed me to pull away from my thoughts for a moment. I kept working the whole time, even though it did not always seem possible. Yes it was hard, but I believe it was better than lying in bed and feeling bad for myself. What one girl said really resonated with me: what does it matter if it’s bad at home or bad when you leave home, it’s better to at least try. Even though I couldn’t go, I always still went. If the symptoms worsened, I would never lie down, I would leave the house.

Do something, try to divert your thoughts, don’t feel sorry for yourself, don’t look for blame anymore. You just need to get through this time. Don’t stay too long on this page. You have collected all the useful information, so do not come back here for a while because each sharing will increase your suffering and fear. 

I have completely given up junk food. I think that helped me get better as well. I was very interested in healthy nutrition, I baked healthy cakes. This also helped me heal as I put my thoughts in a different direction. 

You will recover sooner or later, it cannot be otherwise. You will become stronger and wiser. The most important thing is strength, discipline, and patience. Many thanks to the moderators and a special thank you to Altostrata. You are all life savers.

Are you completely healed? If so, that is amazing!!!!

2015-2019 Zoloft 50mg 
2019-2021 Prozac 20mg
2021-2024 Prozac 50mg
March 1st had 1st panic attack
March 10th increased zoloft to 75mg
March 20th Switched to Prozac 20mg
April 10th increased Prozac to 30mg
April 24th switched back to Zoloft 50mg
May 11th: stopped Zoloft 50mg

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Yes, I am fully recovered.

Escitalopram (Cipralex): 17 Mar 2018, 5mg; 18 Mar, 10mg; 8 Jun, 5mg; 19 Jul, 2.5mg; 30 Jul 2018, 0mg  

 

Trazodone (Triticco):  28 Apr 2018, 50mg; 18 Jun, 66mg; 19 Jun, 75mg; 4 Oct, 67mg; 10 Nov, 62.5mg; 18 Nov, 62mg; 7 Dec, 56mg; 3 Jan 2019, 50mg; 30 Jan, 45 mg; 24 Feb, 41 mg; 23 Mar, 37 mg; 26 Apr, 33,3 mg; 22 May, 30 mg; 18 Jun, 27 mg; 5 Aug, 24,3 mg; 1 Sept, 21,9 mg; 28 Sept, 19,7 mg;  26 Oct, 17,7 mg; 23 Nov, 15,9 mg; 21 Dec, 14,3 mg; 18 Jan 2020, 12,9 mg; 16 Feb, 11,6 mg; 15 Mar, 10,44 mg; 12 Apr, 9,4 mg; 10 May, 8,5 mg; 7 Jun, 7,65 mg; 5 Jul, 6,89 mg; 2 Aug, 6,2 mg; 30 Aug, 5,58 mg; 27 Sept, 5,02 mg; 25 Oct, 4,52 mg; 22 Nov, 4,07 mg; 20 Dec, 3,66 mg; 17 Jan 2021, 3,29 mg; 14 Feb, 2,96 mg; 14 Mar, 2,66 mg; 11 Apr, 2,39 mg; May, 2,15 mg; 6 Jun, 1,94 mg; 4 Jul, 1,75 mg; 1 Aug, 1,58 mg; 29 Aug, 1,42 mg; 26 Sept, 1,28 mg; 24 Oct, 1,15 mg; 21 Nov, 1,04 mg; 19 Dec, 0,94 mg; 17 Jan 2022, 0,85 mg; 13 Feb, 0,77 mg; 13 Mar, 0,69 mg; 10 Apr, 0,62 mg; 8 May, 0,56 mg; 5 Jun, 0,5 mg; 19 Jun, 0,45 mg; 3 Jul, 0,41 mg; 17 Jul, 0,37 mg; 31 Jul, 0,33 mg; 14 Aug, 0,3 mg; 28 Aug, 0,27 mg; 11 Sept, 0,24 mg; 25 Sept, 0,22 mg; 9 Oct, 0,2; 23 Oct, 0,18 mg; 6 Nov, 0,16 mg; 20 Nov, 0,14 mg; 4 Dec, 0,13 mg; 18 Dec, 0,12 mg; 1 Jan 2023, 0,11 mg; 15 Jan, 0,10 mg; 29 Jan, 0,09 mg; 12 Feb, 0,08 mg; 26 Feb, 0,07 mg; 12 Mar, 0,06 mg; 26 Mar, 0,05 mg; 9 Apr, 0,04 mg; 23 Apr, 0,03 mg; 7 May, 0,02 mg; 21 May, 0,01 mg, 4 Jun 0 mg! 

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I am glad that you are fully recovered.

 

If it is not too much trouble, could you briefly outline your recovery trajectory for us?

 

Thank you.

  • 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects)
  • Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise
  • 1 month taper  to 0mg
  • Last dose April 2023
  • Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms

 

Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023. Severe withdrawal since.

 

 

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thanks for sharing your success story - every little helps glad you are recovered

Currently tapering Mirtazapine; previously tapered Cymbalta 30mg from June 2018-Feb 2019 and Seroquel 150mg to zero from Oct-December 2020.

Mirtazapine Taper: 2021 16th Aug -  transitioned to liquid from tablet on a starting dose of what I thought was 7.5ml; 17 Sept  - 7.31; 24 Sept  - 7.13; 15 Oct  - 6.95; 6 Nov  - 6.78; 21 Nov  - 6.61; 5 Dec  - 6.51;

2022 - 1 Jan 6.41; 1 Feb  - 6.1; 9 Mar -  5.8; 13 Mar - 5.9; 7 Apr - 5.8; 21 Apr - 5.7; 7 May - 5.63; 23 May - 5.55; 8 June 5.50;  (got COVID on 12th June so held); 1 July 5.4; 15 July 5.32; 8 Aug 5.2; 15 Aug 5.1; 22 Aug 5; 19 Sept 4.9; 2 Oct 4.81; 13 Oct 4.71; (COVID Booster 17/10/22 so longer hold ); 1 Nov 4.65; 3 Nov 4.60; 10 Nov 4.55; 13 Nov 4.50; 17 Nov 4.45; 20 Nov 4.40;  2 Dec 4.30mg; 9 Dec 4.20mg; I discovered that the volumetric container measured 33ml rather than 30ml in Dec 2022. Following advice from moderator OnMyWay (see her reply of the 5th March) discovered taper with the dilution was 3.8mg (calculated by dividing 30/33 so that every 1ml of solution has  0.90ml of Mirtazapine.  7.50 - 0.90= 6.6ml which was the starting dose on 16th Aug 2021 not 7.5ml).  I decided to keep using the solution as I didn't want more change to deal with than I had to.

2023 17 Mar 4.1(3.7); 26 Mar 4.0(3.6); 14 Apr 3.9(3.51)28 Apr 3.8(3.42); 6 Jun 3.7(3.33); 19 Jun 3.6(3.24); 30 Jun 3.5(3.1); 19 Jul 3.4(3.06); 27 Jul 3.35 (3.01); 29 Jul 3.3 (2.97); 4 Aug 3.25 (2.92); 7 Aug 3.2 (2.88); 21 Aug 3.1 (2.79); 14.09 3 (2.7); 29th Sept 2.9(2.61); 15 Oct 2.8(2.52); 30 Oct 10 2.7(2.43); 13 Nov 2.65(2.38); 20 Nov 2.6(2.34); 26 Nov 2.55(2.29); 10 Dec 2.5(2.25); 

2024 - 14 Jan 2.45(2.20); 22 Jan 2.40(2.16); 29 Jan 2.35(2.11); 2 Feb 2.3 (2.07);15 Feb 2.25(2.02); 22 Feb 2.21 (1.98); 29 Feb 2.17(1.95); 7 Mar 2.13(1.91); 21 Mar 2.05 (1.84); 31 Mar 2.01 (1.80); 14 Apr 1.90 (1.71); 29 Apr 1.80 (1.62); 4 Jun 1.70(1.53); 16 July 1.60(1.44); 19 Aug 1.50(1.35); 

Due to personal circumstances I am not active on this site at present other than updating my signature   Further information on the tapering method I am using is available in my profile.   

This is not medical advice .  Please do not PM me thanks.

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Escitalopram (Cipralex): 17 Mar 2018, 5mg; 18 Mar, 10mg; 8 Jun, 5mg; 19 Jul, 2.5mg; 30 Jul 2018, 0mg  

 

Trazodone (Triticco):  28 Apr 2018, 50mg; 18 Jun, 66mg; 19 Jun, 75mg; 4 Oct, 67mg; 10 Nov, 62.5mg; 18 Nov, 62mg; 7 Dec, 56mg; 3 Jan 2019, 50mg; 30 Jan, 45 mg; 24 Feb, 41 mg; 23 Mar, 37 mg; 26 Apr, 33,3 mg; 22 May, 30 mg; 18 Jun, 27 mg; 5 Aug, 24,3 mg; 1 Sept, 21,9 mg; 28 Sept, 19,7 mg;  26 Oct, 17,7 mg; 23 Nov, 15,9 mg; 21 Dec, 14,3 mg; 18 Jan 2020, 12,9 mg; 16 Feb, 11,6 mg; 15 Mar, 10,44 mg; 12 Apr, 9,4 mg; 10 May, 8,5 mg; 7 Jun, 7,65 mg; 5 Jul, 6,89 mg; 2 Aug, 6,2 mg; 30 Aug, 5,58 mg; 27 Sept, 5,02 mg; 25 Oct, 4,52 mg; 22 Nov, 4,07 mg; 20 Dec, 3,66 mg; 17 Jan 2021, 3,29 mg; 14 Feb, 2,96 mg; 14 Mar, 2,66 mg; 11 Apr, 2,39 mg; May, 2,15 mg; 6 Jun, 1,94 mg; 4 Jul, 1,75 mg; 1 Aug, 1,58 mg; 29 Aug, 1,42 mg; 26 Sept, 1,28 mg; 24 Oct, 1,15 mg; 21 Nov, 1,04 mg; 19 Dec, 0,94 mg; 17 Jan 2022, 0,85 mg; 13 Feb, 0,77 mg; 13 Mar, 0,69 mg; 10 Apr, 0,62 mg; 8 May, 0,56 mg; 5 Jun, 0,5 mg; 19 Jun, 0,45 mg; 3 Jul, 0,41 mg; 17 Jul, 0,37 mg; 31 Jul, 0,33 mg; 14 Aug, 0,3 mg; 28 Aug, 0,27 mg; 11 Sept, 0,24 mg; 25 Sept, 0,22 mg; 9 Oct, 0,2; 23 Oct, 0,18 mg; 6 Nov, 0,16 mg; 20 Nov, 0,14 mg; 4 Dec, 0,13 mg; 18 Dec, 0,12 mg; 1 Jan 2023, 0,11 mg; 15 Jan, 0,10 mg; 29 Jan, 0,09 mg; 12 Feb, 0,08 mg; 26 Feb, 0,07 mg; 12 Mar, 0,06 mg; 26 Mar, 0,05 mg; 9 Apr, 0,04 mg; 23 Apr, 0,03 mg; 7 May, 0,02 mg; 21 May, 0,01 mg, 4 Jun 0 mg! 

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