LostInCanada Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 35 minutes ago, Cheeky said: I'm 48 and I have waited too long already . I am 63 and wish I did it at your age. Now I have other age related issues which just complicates it all. You made the right choice absolutely. Good for you. ❤️ I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: I am 63 and wish I did it at your age. Now I have other age related issues which just complicates it all. You made the right choice absolutely. Good for you. ❤️ Thankyou 🌺 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Sebas Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 On 6/6/2024 at 1:49 AM, Cheeky said: changed to Seroquel and left in fridge for 72 hours thinking it was okay How exactly do you store it? You need a dark/amber glass container, to prevent the influence of light. Also no plastic. 46 years old male job in spatial planning into sports, animals and nature Started using 20 mg Paroxetine (Paxil) in 2004 for stressrelated anxiety/depression Attempted several times to stop, starting a few years after 2004 Found out in 2015 about paxil withdrawal symptoms and the 5-10% taper guideline Started using liquid paxil in 2015/2016 2018 --> 11.2 mg of paxil 2019-2023 developed severe food- and other sensitivities (anti imflammatory, anti oxidant, food colourings, oils, herbs, chemicals etc.) 12/2023 Had been building up for 4 years to Poop-out/tolerance, introducing brassmonkey slide method 0.1mg/week 26/1/2024 10 mg (journey halfway). 14/7/2024 8.4 mg No supplements, strict diet Link to comment
Sunflower414 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Thinking of you @Cheeky Medicated at age 7. Many med changes (over 20). Tapered off Xanax in 2018. PAXIL TAPER: 2021: Feb. dropped from 20mg to 15mg Paxil. Terrible. Bedridden for 8 months. Oct. - 14.6mg Oct. 27 - 14.2 mg Nov. 14 - 14mg Feb. 28 - 13.6mg March. 28 - 13.4mg April 5 - 13.4mg but introducing liquid (bad reaction) 2022: November 14 - 13.2mg 2023: January 4 - 13mg March 7 - 12.7mg (2.3%) April 20 - 12.4mg (2.4%) May 16 - 12.1mg (2.4%) Aug. 30 - 12mg (.8%) Oct. 19 - switched from tablet to liquid from compounding pharmacy Nov. 12. 11.65mg (2.9%) Nov. 30 - 11.3mg (3%) Dec. 18 - 10.95 (3%) 2024 Jan. 4 - 10.75 (1.8%) Feb. 10 - 10.4 (3.3%) Feb. 28 - 10MG!!!!!! (3.8%) April 9 - 9.95 (.5%) May 24 - 9.7(2.5%) June-July - micro taper to 9.55 Aug. 27 - 9.22 (3%) Link to comment
Cheeky Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 5 hours ago, Sunflower414 said: Thinking of you @Cheeky Thanks 🥰 I've been feeling better the last 4 days so I'm feeling hopeful . I had a consult with Mark Horowitz and his advised me to hold for a few months and then continue tapering of the Seroquel, then when I feel like everything is going okay start the Paxil taper again . This is going to be a long journey for me . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Sunflower414 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 @Cheeky it’s a long journey for all of us, but when we get to the finish line it’ll be worth it 💖 Medicated at age 7. Many med changes (over 20). Tapered off Xanax in 2018. PAXIL TAPER: 2021: Feb. dropped from 20mg to 15mg Paxil. Terrible. Bedridden for 8 months. Oct. - 14.6mg Oct. 27 - 14.2 mg Nov. 14 - 14mg Feb. 28 - 13.6mg March. 28 - 13.4mg April 5 - 13.4mg but introducing liquid (bad reaction) 2022: November 14 - 13.2mg 2023: January 4 - 13mg March 7 - 12.7mg (2.3%) April 20 - 12.4mg (2.4%) May 16 - 12.1mg (2.4%) Aug. 30 - 12mg (.8%) Oct. 19 - switched from tablet to liquid from compounding pharmacy Nov. 12. 11.65mg (2.9%) Nov. 30 - 11.3mg (3%) Dec. 18 - 10.95 (3%) 2024 Jan. 4 - 10.75 (1.8%) Feb. 10 - 10.4 (3.3%) Feb. 28 - 10MG!!!!!! (3.8%) April 9 - 9.95 (.5%) May 24 - 9.7(2.5%) June-July - micro taper to 9.55 Aug. 27 - 9.22 (3%) Link to comment
Thorin Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Starting to settle yet Cheeky? Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 14 hours ago, Thorin said: Starting to settle yet Cheeky? Hey Thorin, Thanks for checking in on me . Yeah everything is 90% better now. I've been pretty much back to normal the last week. I feel so grateful to have gotten out of that bad 6 week patch . I really though I was permanently doomed. I'm going to hold for a few months to let things settle down , even though I dont want too , I know I need to . I'm going on a trip to Europe in 6 weeks and I want to enjoy myself . I will restart my taper when I get back but will lower the percentage on both drugs . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, Cheeky said: Hey Thorin, Thanks for checking in on me . Yeah everything is 90% better now. I've been pretty much back to normal the last week. I feel so grateful to have gotten out of that bad 6 week patch . I really though I was permanently doomed. I'm going to hold for a few months to let things settle down , even though I dont want too , I know I need to . I'm going on a trip to Europe in 6 weeks and I want to enjoy myself . I will restart my taper when I get back but will lower the percentage on both drugs . Great news and I hope it gives you confidence for the future. We heal. It's just a slow, inhumane process but eventually we'll be ok. Are you going on the hairdressers trip to Ibiza? My ex is going. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Thorin said: Are you going on the hairdressers trip to Ibiza? My ex is going. Really , when is it on ? I might consider it if I'm around there . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Thorin said: We heal. It's just a slow, inhumane process but eventually we'll be ok. That's the problem , never knowing the end time 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 35 minutes ago, Cheeky said: Really , when is it on ? I might consider it if I'm around there . October I think. Tax deductible Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Thorin Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 35 minutes ago, Cheeky said: That's the problem , never knowing the end time I don’t think about that very often anymore. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted July 7 Author Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Thorin said: October I think. Tax deductible Dam , I'm coming back at that time . Never mind , I just want a break from hairdressing . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 21 minutes ago, Cheeky said: Dam , I'm coming back at that time . Never mind , I just want a break from hairdressing . Don’t blame you. Seems full on. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 Hey everyone , well I've been really struggling as of late , I thought I would stablise now since holding my taper for a few months . It's been good days and weeks then bad . All over the place but the last week and a half it just hasn't let up and it's brought me to panic . I try to accept this is the process of my brain adjusting to the new dose but this fear has really taken its toll . I just need reassurance that this is the windows and waves pattern and it's normal . Sorry just feeling sad tonight . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 47 minutes ago, Cheeky said: Hey everyone , well I've been really struggling as of late , I thought I would stablise now since holding my taper for a few months . It's been good days and weeks then bad . All over the place but the last week and a half it just hasn't let up and it's brought me to panic . I try to accept this is the process of my brain adjusting to the new dose but this fear has really taken its toll . I just need reassurance that this is the windows and waves pattern and it's normal . Sorry just feeling sad tonight . I’m not saying this will happen to you, but it took me 10 months to stabilise after a doctor messed me up with the latuda. I was a mess right up until the few weeks before I stabilised. My point is that just because it’s intense now doesn’t mean you won’t be ok in a week or two. Hang on. You’re healing and things will get better. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 23 minutes ago, Thorin said: I’m not saying this will happen to you, but it took me 10 months to stabilise after a doctor messed me up with the latuda. I was a mess right up until the few weeks before I stabilised. My point is that just because it’s intense now doesn’t mean you won’t be ok in a week or two. Hang on. You’re healing and things will get better. I'm so thankful for your reply , I just doubt everything when I'm in a wave . I really try to be optimistic and accept this process but this week I've felt beaten up . I've been here before so many dam times 😞 Thankyou @Thorin Your a life savour 🌸 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 11 minutes ago, Cheeky said: I'm so thankful for your reply , I just doubt everything when I'm in a wave . I really try to be optimistic and accept this process but this week I've felt beaten up . I've been here before so many dam times 😞 Thankyou @Thorin Your a life savour 🌸 I’m just someone going through my own version of what you’re going through. We heal. It takes time. And we can’t always see it happening while it’s happening. It’s the hardest thing we’ll ever do. You’re so much further along your journey than when we first met on here. You’re doing it! Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 27 minutes ago, Thorin said: It’s the hardest thing we’ll ever do When I survive this, I don't think anything will ever bother me again I will be a zen master by then 🧘🏻♀️ 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 31 minutes ago, Thorin said: You’re doing it! I am and not giving in. I promised myself that . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 8 minutes ago, Cheeky said: I am and not giving in. I promised myself that . Same. I decided I had to at least see what it was like on the other side. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I've been in an endless wave and this always helps me. Healing is happening.❤️ I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Willy Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 @Cheeky Just read through your story and can’t believe how strong you’ve been. It’s truly remarkable. I’ve just started my tapering journey and hope I can survive like you. I wish you continued success! Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018) Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out. July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg Link to comment
AAOffZ Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Hi! It took me 16 weeks to stabilize at my current dose. (March until July) And I felt HORRENDOUS on and off right up until the day I stabilized. It was like a light switch. Waves and windows are normal. And it’s also not you, rather your hijacked brain telling you that you’ll never stabilize. You will. And you can’t do anything to stop it! It’ll happen. 1 Sertraline 25 mg (Jan 2016) 50 mg (Feb 2016) Down to 25 mg for second pregnancy (2019) 75 mg due to PPA (Sept 2019) Down to 25 mg for third pregnancy (2020) 50-> 75 mg ->100 mg (Jan 2023) Felt good for long while so reduced to 75 (Nov 2023). Back up to 100 after some symptoms of anxiety (Dec 2023) 125 (Dec 2023) didn’t help so->150 mg (Feb 2024) Horrible adverse reaction to 150/kindled Doc suggested lowering Sert and add Buspar. Started 2.5 mg 3x per day same day at going down to 100 mg Sert. March- CT’d buspar and dropped down to 87 mg Sert. Intermittent .25 or .50 Xanax use. Like once a week. Haven’t taken it since April 2024. Found SA, stopped the madness. (April 2024) hold at 87 mg -micro tapered a few mg over 1-2 months but should’ve held longer after stabilizing at 87 (8.31.24) 84.6 mg • (9.22.24) 83.9 mg accidental small drop due to scale malfunction; plan to hold here for at least a month. (Current: Natural Calm: 50-100 mg per day in water, 0.5 mg melatonin nightly) Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 11 hours ago, AAOffZ said: Hi! It took me 16 weeks to stabilize at my current dose. (March until July) And I felt HORRENDOUS on and off right up until the day I stabilized. It was like a light switch. Waves and windows are normal. And it’s also not you, rather your hijacked brain telling you that you’ll never stabilize. You will. And you can’t do anything to stop it! It’ll happen. Thankyou @AAOffZ unfortunately this is how the beast goes , it dosnt matter how many times I've been there it always feels like the first . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 13 hours ago, Willy said: @Cheeky Just read through your story and can’t believe how strong you’ve been. It’s truly remarkable. I’ve just started my tapering journey and hope I can survive like you. I wish you continued success! @WillyYour so lovely to write that , it made my morning 🌸 I was once where you are and never thought I would reach were I am today . I'm just like you no different , you will get there too . Thankyou for the message . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 @Cheeky sorry. I have no idea what happened to the YouTube link about waves and windows. They must have taken it down. Let me try it again I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 5 hours ago, LostInCanada said: @Cheeky sorry. I have no idea what happened to the YouTube link about waves and windows. They must have taken it down. Let me try it again No it's working fine . Thankyou for sharing this , I've seen this before a long time ago but I've forgotten about it . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 Okay advice needed. Im really struggling with these symptoms the last week , its like I've gone backwards and feels like I'm heading for a nervous breakdown . I'm suppose to go to Europe this Sunday that I've been planning for years and I don't know if I should go now . I will be away for a month with my sister , no kids or husband so it will be less stressful but I'm scared to go if I'm not feeling myself . Anybody got any suggestions ? 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, Cheeky said: Okay advice needed. Im really struggling with these symptoms the last week , its like I've gone backwards and feels like I'm heading for a nervous breakdown . I'm suppose to go to Europe this Sunday that I've been planning for years and I don't know if I should go now . I will be away for a month with my sister , no kids or husband so it will be less stressful but I'm scared to go if I'm not feeling myself . Anybody got any suggestions ? Is it a slow, leisurely trip or completely packed out with activities? Will your sister be supportive? Do you feel that you would be ok if you went? Do you need to be 100% to do it or can you do it at less than 100% capacity? Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Willy Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, Cheeky said: Okay advice needed. Im really struggling with these symptoms the last week , its like I've gone backwards and feels like I'm heading for a nervous breakdown . I'm suppose to go to Europe this Sunday that I've been planning for years and I don't know if I should go now . I will be away for a month with my sister , no kids or husband so it will be less stressful but I'm scared to go if I'm not feeling myself . Anybody got any suggestions ? It sounds like you could make the trip during a window or when having lighter days but I would make the decision on what you’re capable of doing during a wave. If you believe that kind of travel is unbearable during a wave it might be best to postpone. If you think you could ride out a wave while traveling then go for it. It’s so hard to give good advice for this situation since everyone is at different levels of withdrawal. You’re a very strong person and have been dealing with withdrawal for a long time so I’m sure you’ll make the best decision. Just remember to be selfish when deciding because it’s all about you recovering and healing . Take care Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018) Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out. July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 9 hours ago, Thorin said: Is it a slow, leisurely trip or completely packed out with activities? Will your sister be supportive? Do you feel that you would be ok if you went? Do you need to be 100% to do it or can you do it at less than 100% capacity? My sister will be supportive and it won't be a leisurely trip. A lot of walking . Four countries in four weeks . I really won't to go but I feel I don't even feel up to going to work at the moment. I don't know 😞. If I just could get a window , I could make a good decision 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, Willy said: It sounds like you could make the trip during a window or when having lighter days but I would make the decision on what you’re capable of doing during a wave. If you believe that kind of travel is unbearable during a wave it might be best to postpone. If you think you could ride out a wave while traveling then go for it. It’s so hard to give good advice for this situation since everyone is at different levels of withdrawal. You’re a very strong person and have been dealing with withdrawal for a long time so I’m sure you’ll make the best decision. Just remember to be selfish when deciding because it’s all about you recovering and healing . Take care Thanks @Willy, if only we know how we're going to feel . At the moment it can change by hour. I still can't believe this is happening and there's nothing to do about it . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Thorin Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Cheeky said: My sister will be supportive and it won't be a leisurely trip. A lot of walking . Four countries in four weeks . I really won't to go but I feel I don't even feel up to going to work at the moment. I don't know 😞. If I just could get a window , I could make a good decision A lot of walking and four countries might be tough in a bad wave. Age 16 (1995 - 2000) -Paroxetine Age 21 (2000-2004) - Effexor 37.5mg Age 24 (2004-2012) - Lexapro (70mg), Xanax minimum 2mg Xanax a day About 32 (2012-2017?) - Every mood stabiliser under the sun (not at the same time) and minimum 2mg Xanax a day; occasional amisulpride About 35 (2017-current) - Lurasidone 80 mg, quickly titrated down to 40mg, Pristiq (50 mg), minimum of 2mg Xanax a day About 41 (2020) Switched from Xanax to clonazepam and started tapering at 0.125 mg each reduction, tapered off Pristiq with a cross taper at the end, low dose of dextroamphetamine. Age 42 (2021) Tried to taper off Lurasidone three times. Quick taper from 40mg to 0 mg over a couple of months the first time. Reinstated at 20mg. Tried twice more to taper from 20 mg to 0 mg dropping by 5 mg each reduction (about every 2 weeks). Age 42-43 (April 2022) 20mg-18mg; May 18mg-16mg; June 16-14mg; September 14-12mg; September 12-14mg reinstated. February 2023 - hiccup with brand change, Back to Apotek brand and switch to homemade suspension. Age 44 (August 2023 -restarted clonazepam taper). Start dose 0.375mg. 1/9/2023 - 0.365mg; 1/10/2023 - 0.324mg; 1/11/2023 - 0.264mg; 1/12/2023 - 0.25 mg (holding); 1/2/2024 - 0.232mg; 1/3/2024 - 0.221mg; 1/4/2024 - 0.205mg; 1/8/2024 - 0.182mg; 1/9/2024 - 0.171mg; 1/10/2024 - 0.162mg Health regimen: walks, hot/cold showers, ice baths, breathwork, mostly healthy diet, therapy...... Open to ideas! Supplements: Omega 3, liver CBD/THC. Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 18 minutes ago, Thorin said: A lot of walking and four countries might be tough in a bad wave. I know but there will be no responsibilities and I need a break from everything . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
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