Sebas Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 21 hours ago, Cheeky said: Once I start tapering again I think the brassmonkey slide might be better to try . I Like the idea of the holds . Either way slide method or the way you were (succefully) going holds are necessary. I think the method itself was not the problem just the lack of holds. If you take daily cuts your cns is constantly adjusting. If you go brass then your cns gets a week to adjust after every cut. 20 hours ago, Cheeky said: My next goal is 5mg but not until I feel ready to taper again You could consider setting achievable short term goals. Next goal would be 9, then 8 mg. For me 5 mg is also a goal but more midterm say halfway 2025. Break it up in parts so you will feel like you are achieving goals down the road. Agree with @LostInCanada that you are doing great. Bye Sebas 46 years old male job in spatial planning into sports, animals and nature Started using 20 mg Paroxetine (Paxil) in 2004 for stressrelated anxiety/depression Attempted several times to stop, starting a few years after 2004 Found out in 2015 about paxil withdrawal symptoms and the 5-10% taper guideline Started using liquid paxil in 2015/2016 2018 --> 11.2 mg of paxil 2019-2023 developed severe food- and other sensitivities (anti imflammatory, anti oxidant, food colourings, oils, herbs, chemicals etc.) 12/2023 Had been building up for 4 years to Poop-out/tolerance, introducing brassmonkey slide method 0.1mg/week 26/1/2024 10 mg (journey halfway). 14/7/2024 8.4 mg No supplements, strict diet Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 51 minutes ago, Sebas said: Either way slide method or the way you were (succefully) going holds are necessary. I think the method itself was not the problem just the lack of holds. If you take daily cuts your cns is constantly adjusting. If you go brass then your cns gets a week to adjust after every cut. You could consider setting achievable short term goals. Next goal would be 9, then 8 mg. For me 5 mg is also a goal but more midterm say halfway 2025. Break it up in parts so you will feel like you are achieving goals down the road. Agree with @LostInCanada that you are doing great. Bye Sebas @SebasI can't Thankyou enough for your help . Yes smaller goals are the key . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 5 hours ago, Ariel said: GOMO -- Gratitude of Missing Out I love it haha, I'm going to use that 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 5 hours ago, Ariel said: Hi @Cheeky Your upcoming trip sounds great! Hope you don't mind my chiming in. I've done some traveling while in WD and would like to share from my experience. I find that my body often quite remarkably cooperates when there are unusual circumstances such as international travel. I actually haven't ever really been hit by nasty waves while on a trip. This could be random luck, or it could be some sort of subconscious understanding that it was important to keep it together; no way to know! That being said, I'd emphasize the importance of listening to one's body while traveling and sightseeing, etc. It's not a binary of, either I'm ill with WD and stay home, or I go on a big trip as if nothing ever happened. The key is to accept WD and travel with one's current needs in mind, so that we're being gentle with ourselves and mindful of the body's condition. Practical self-care such as making sure to get adequate rest, staying hydrated, maintaining a mostly nutritious, whole foods diet, not subjecting oneself to extreme heat/sun/cold, pacing oneself and avoiding overexertion, etc. -- all of this will be essential to getting through the trip in a WD-friendly way. Something that can be very stressful for my WD brain is improvising and dealing with the unexpected. It requires a lot of bandwidth to make decisions on the spot, process things in real time, deal with changes of plans in the moment. I find this sort of thing inordinately demanding in my daily life, let alone while traveling. I don't know whether that resonates with you. A strategy for this is of course to try to prepare for events as well as possible and schedule my days in advance. There will always be an element of the unknown, because that's life, and especially during international travel. Whatever ways I could find to keep this to a minimum were really helpful to me. It felt a bit unlike what I was used to do, because prior to WD I was very much an improviser when it came to travel; I've done a lot of backpacking and budget adventures, and generally love the experience of getting lost in a new place without a map and just wandering and finding my way as I go. My needs have been somewhat altered (to say the least) in WD, and I've adapted to that. I avoid any sort of packed schedule or tight intinerary; I give myself plenty of time to get from place to place so that I don't have to rush or stress about catching this bus or making that connection. I make sure I've always got a place booked for the night ahead so I don't find myself without somewhere to sleep/rest. Maybe these things are obvious, I'm just mentioning them explicitly in case it's useful to sit down and think things through from a WD-supportive perspective. Befriend your FOMO and get really intimate with it! I'm going to suggest an alternative: GOMO -- Gratitude of Missing Out I invented that just for you, isn't it brilliant, haha, you're welcome ❤️ The idea is, when we're on a big once-in-a-lifetime kind of trip, we may feel some pressure to see all the sights and do all the things. That sort of whirlwind may not be compatible with pacing oneself and being mindful of WD. Of course, everyone's different, and I don't assume that my experience is the same as yours. I'd just like to invite you to give yourself permission beforehand to structure and dose your itinerary in a way that is supportive to you where you're at right now, in your current condition. The idea is to have a relaxing vacation and enjoy your time, and the best way to do that is through acceptance of what is. For example, if you're tired and choose to rest, that is an excellent choice and will serve you well moving forward. Gratitude of Missing Out is kind of like holding during a taper -- taking a break to let the body rest and recharge, which allows for us to keep going afterwards. We can give thanks for the pauses insomuch as they enable activity later. That's where the Go Mo' comes into play! Practice GOMO and you will ultimately Go More... get it? (Please excuse my self-indulgence, I'm very pleased with myself, haha) The through-line here is to manage expectations, set things up for yourself in a supportive way to facilitate WD-friendly days, avoid stress and overexertion as much as possible. I trust your travel companion is on board with what you're dealing with and understands/accepts/supports that you may be a "special needs" traveler. Last but not least, I'd encourage you to think a bit about and plan ahead for when you return from your trip. In my experience, even after I've had a great time, and even when my body has "behaved" and WD hasn't been an issue, when the fun is over there can be a crash. The more I've held it together without waves, the more likely I am to crash afterwards. The effects of stress are cumulative, and that includes good, positive, happy stress, such as vacation and travel. It would be great if you could have some buffer between returning home from your trip and starting back up at work again. Giving yourself as much time as possible to acclimate to homecoming -- jet lag, daily routines, resting from the travel, etc. -- so that you don't have to hit the ground running and get slammed straight into the hard work and duties and obligations of the day-to-day. Inserting some space between arriving back home and getting back to work could be helpful. I don't know whether that's available as an option, I realize it might not be possible. Just something to consider. If it's not possible to have a few days off between returning home and getting back to full-on workload, simply being conscious of that transition would be helpful. Keeping in mind that it could be demanding and being very gentle with yourself, easing yourself into things wherever possible, accepting that maybe the first week back you'll phone it in a bit as you readjust. Forgiving ourselves, letting ourselves off the hook, and giving ourselves permission to do a mediocre job and not be perfect can do wonders! I don't know whether any of the above resonates with you. Feel free to pick and choose, ignore and discard as you see fit. I hear you expressing the need for a vacation, and I wish you a lovely, relaxing holiday! It sounds like you've been working very hard on all fronts for a long time, and this getaway is well-earned. Bonus: having new experiences and adventures and exploring and getting curious about life, the world, ourselves -- these can all be beneficial to neuroplasticity and healing! You will be providing your brain with so much positive, life-affirming input and opportunities for joy and growth, I trust that you will reap the rewards in more ways than one. Remember, healing is happening all the time, even when we don't consciously perceive it. Safe travels, and enjoy ❤️ Ariel @Ariel I love you chiming in , what great advise and I will be following your suggestions . 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Stardust Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Hi @Cheeky - I'm a big fan of @brassmonkey's method. I've used it for citalopram and currently bupropion. It takes a lot of patience but it's so much gentler on the CNS. I'm convinced my withdrawal symptoms have been minimal and manageable thanks to the Brassmonkey method. I hope you have wonderful travels! Stardust Current Taper Bupropion which I've taken for 20+ yrs- Start dose SR 100mg Jan '23, switched to IR 100mg. Held for 2 weeks; began taper using Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-Tapering; 2/23 Bup 100mg; 6/23 Bup 75mg; 7/22/23 Bup 64mg; 8/12/23 Bup 59mg; 9/2/23 Bup 56mg; 10/1/23 Bup 52mg; 11/4/23 Bup 46mg; 12/9/23 40mg; 1/13/24 35mg; 2/24/24 30mg; 4/13/24 25mg; 5/4/24 23mg; 6/10/24 20mg; 7/15/24 18mg; 8/5/24 16.6mg; 8/31/24 15mg; Other meds, supplements & previous tapers: buspirone plan to taper off after bupropion taper citalopram -20mg/day. Tapered from 40mg to 20mg using Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-Tapering clonazepam Tapered too fast - horrible withdrawal. BenzoBuddies.org is the best resource out there for benzo withdrawal. Vitamins D3, C , multivitamin, probiotics and Fish oil Link to comment
Cheeky Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 55 minutes ago, Stardust said: Hi @Cheeky - I'm a big fan of @brassmonkey's method. I've used it for citalopram and currently bupropion. It takes a lot of patience but it's so much gentler on the CNS. I'm convinced my withdrawal symptoms have been minimal and manageable thanks to the Brassmonkey method. I hope you have wonderful travels! Stardust Hey thanks @Stardust I will be adding holds that for sure . I don't want to go through this again 🙃. I'm happy it's working for you . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted September 10 Mentor Share Posted September 10 @Cheeky Stopping by to empathize with you. I know how easy it is to get ahead of ourselves and try to power through..... I have to try and rein myself in a lot.....Give yourself a hug and look ahead. 🌞 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625mgai 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042mgai 3x a day 2024=going to straight daily total as I'm taking Xanax 3 times a day, tapering doses can vary throughout my 3 times a day dosing .102mgai> .1mgai> .098mgai> .096mgai> .094mgai> .092mgai Supplements Magnesium glycinate, magnesium citrate, Omega 3, D/K2 , zinc, Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 On 9/10/2024 at 8:51 PM, Greatful said: @Cheeky Stopping by to empathize with you. I know how easy it is to get ahead of ourselves and try to power through..... I have to try and rein myself in a lot.....Give yourself a hug and look ahead. 🌞 @Greatfulthanks for the encouragement . You've done so well getting off two positions . Congrats that's amazing . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 @Cheeky how is your trip going? ♥️ 1 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 15 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: @Cheeky how is your trip going? ♥️ It's actually been okay slight symptoms during the day that comes and go but the trip itself has been amazing . Today has been the hardest for me with the aniexty . I did cry today to myself becouse I was upset that I couldn't embrace everything becouse of my symptoms and then the aniexty brings with it the looping thoughts that this is going to be forever . Anyway a new day tomorrow ....... Thanks for asking @LostInCanada🌸 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 22 minutes ago, Cheeky said: new day tomorrow Absolutely. You are doing great. Even if you were in perfect health you couldn't do it all. You are doing great really. 😊 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, LostInCanada said: Absolutely. You are doing great. Even if you were in perfect health you couldn't do it all. You are doing great really. 😊 Your encouragement means the world to me . We just have to move forward .... 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 Everyone I'm having a really bad day today , aniexty , heart palpitations , restlessness and crying spells . I just realised I forgot my to take my Paxil last night and I think I was already feeling not the best the couple last days becouse taking my meds have been at different times and now on top of forgetting last night Paxil , today I'm feeling really bad . I'm really trying not to panic ..... 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Willy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Cheeky said: Everyone I'm having a really bad day today , aniexty , heart palpitations , restlessness and crying spells . I just realised I forgot my to take my Paxil last night and I think I was already feeling not the best the couple last days becouse taking my meds have been at different times and now on top of forgetting last night Paxil , today I'm feeling really bad . I'm really trying not to panic ..... No need to panic we’ve all done that. Just take it easy the next couple days and you’ll be fine. Try not to dwell on the missed dose. I hope you feel better soon! Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018) Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out. July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 @Cheeky did you take it right away? Please do if you haven't. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 33 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: @Cheeky did you take it right away? Please do if you haven't. It's been 16 hours though . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 34 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: @Cheeky did you take it right away? Please do if you haven't. Sorry I mean 19 hours . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 You need to take it right away I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Let me find the info to see if you should take your usual dose as well. It will take me some time. I'll be back.♥️ I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: Let me find the info to see if you should take your usual dose as well. It will take me some time. I'll be back.♥️ Okay Thankyou so much . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 Just now, Cheeky said: Okay Thankyou so 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 So this is what Alot said: Grand Master Altostrata Posted June 7, 2012 Take your dose as soon as possible, at the reduced dose to keep dosage consistent. Tonight, you may wish to delay taking your dose, if it doesn't bother you, so as not to "double" up on the amount of Effexor in your bloodstream from your morning dose today. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: So this is what Alot said: Grand Master Altostrata Posted June 7, 2012 Take your dose as soon as possible, at the reduced dose to keep dosage consistent. Tonight, you may wish to delay taking your dose, if it doesn't bother you, so as not to "double" up on the amount of Effexor in your bloodstream from your morning dose today. Okay so I toke my dose now from yesterday and I won't take anything tonight . Is that right ? 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The consistency of the drug in your bloodstream will be off because of paxil's short half life o 15-21 hours. Is it possible to take a half dose in the morning and then your regular dose tomorrow night? I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Read through the link I gave you and see if that makes sense. I think trying to regulate your bloodstream will help smooth out the missed dose. @brassmonkey? I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: The consistency of the drug in your bloodstream will be off because of paxil's short half life o 15-21 hours. Is it possible to take a half dose in the morning and then your regular dose tomorrow night? Yeah I will do that if that is recommended 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The member Catina7 recently missed her dose and took it 12 hours after the fact and then took her regular dose as usual. She felt a little off for a couple days but that was it. Hopefully this will correct quickly. ♥️ I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, LostInCanada said: The member Catina7 recently missed her dose and took it 12 hours after the fact and then took her regular dose as usual. She felt a little off for a couple days but that was it. Hopefully this will correct quickly. ♥️ I've only got 5 hours to my next dose then . I think I better not as it's too close to the dose I just toke now from the missed dose last night . Let's see if @brassmonkey can chime in . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Just now, Cheeky said: think I better not as it's too close to the dose I agree, that's why I thought half a dose in the morning. Then regular dose at night. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 5 minutes ago, LostInCanada said: I agree, that's why I thought half a dose in the morning. Then regular dose at night. Okay I think that might do that 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted September 14 Moderator Share Posted September 14 If your next scheduled dose is in five hours, skip it and wait until your regular time tomorrow. Things may be a little rocky for a few days as you restabilize, but you will be fine. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 6 minutes ago, brassmonkey said: If your next scheduled dose is in five hours, skip it and wait until your regular time tomorrow. Things may be a little rocky for a few days as you restabilize, but you will be fine. Okay great thanks. My next dose will be 11pm tomorrow night then . 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 @Cheeky how are you feeling? If you are experiencing an uptick in symptoms you can move your dose forward 5 hours to match yesterday as well. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
Cheeky Posted September 16 Author Share Posted September 16 15 hours ago, LostInCanada said: @Cheeky how are you feeling? If you are experiencing an uptick in symptoms you can move your dose forward 5 hours to match yesterday as well. Hey @LostInCanada, thanks for checking on on me . I did what Brassmonkey said . I toke my dose straight away after I spoke to you then toke my next dose at the same time the next day . I am feeling symptoms but it comes and goes . I'm handling it . 1 1995 started Paxil 20mg slowly increasing to 50mg 2014 I decided to tapper myself not knowing how too and crashed , DR added 50mg of Seroquel Through the years made many mistakes tapering Started Tapering Both drugs at the same time 7.5% per month Paxil 9% Seroquel doing daily micro-taper Guided by Mark Horowitz 31/3/24 Paxil 10.31mg 31/3/24 Seroquel 9.9mg current 11/4/24 10mg Paxil 7.5mg Seroquel Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 5 hours ago, Cheeky said: I am feeling symptoms but it comes and goes . I'm handling it . Glad to hear. Hate these drugs. All we can do is move forward. ♥️ 1 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on this site. 2016-twice weekly for a couple months-oxazepam 10 mg sleep/ 2020-22-once a week 3.75-7.5 mg for sleep/20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8mg/23.07.28-4.73mg/23.08.04-4.65mg /21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47mg/6.2.24-4.46mg/ 19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4 mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg/19.5.24-4.36 mg/2.7.24-4.34 mg/9.7.24-4.32mg/31.7.24-4.3 mg/ 1.10.24 -4.29mg/ 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/0.25 mcg melatonin nightly "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 Link to comment
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